Originally Posted by jim19611961
But lets pair this down a bit. What one approaching a new room design should be most interested in are those aspects that make the different approaches different. You dont have to get right away all the subtlety and details. So what are these things? Mostly, its just one thing: Reflection control.
I would argue that this is the most distinguishing characteristic from one approach to another. Your either:
1) Killing all reflections (little to no room interaction)
2) Killing certain ones (specific room interaction)
3) Trying to preserve most of them in a specific way (lots of room interaction)
While this list is a gross oversimplification, I think you are well on your way if you can just decide which of these three choices most suites you. And I would assert that most treated rooms are aiming for one of the above.
My two cents on this... I opted for 1). They are not all killed but most are. This, to me, emulates the dozens of sound editing suites I worked in over my career when making radio and cinema commercials. My room sounds like those rooms, when I go in there and speak. Many people would find it 'dead' and certainly one often reads that nobody would want to 'hold a conversation' in there. But I don't go into the room to hold a conversation. I go in to watch movies. Note that I did not say 'listen to music'. I do believe that if I used the HT for music I may want something different.
At risk of repeating myself ad nauseam, I believe that all of the ambient cues and so on that I need to hear are already included in a good multichannel mix. Again, this is only for multichannel movies. If I listened to stereo music in there, I may want something different. What I find is that the room then becomes the scene in front of me on the screen. if it is a small room I am seeing on the screen, that is what it sounds like here. If it is an aircraft hangar, then it sounds - if I close my eyes - like I am in an aircraft hangar. If it is a busy New York City street, it sounds like that. To me, this is 100% what I am aiming for. I want to remove my room from the equation as much as possible.
There may be psychological factors at work: I am very, very interested in how movies are made as well as enjoying them as pieces of communicative art. So maybe I tend to be over-analytical. I want to hear everything in the mix, analytically. I really enjoy the 'tack sharp imaging' I get because that is what we used to get in the editing suites I mentioned. It enables me to hear every little aspect of the mix, individually, as well as as a 'whole' and I personally like that. Others may not. For similar reasons, I like my system to be brutally honest in the way it allows me to hear what is going on, even if what is going on is ugly. Some prefer a more 'pleasing' presentation. Remember I watch movies multiple times - most people don't. On the first watching, I am mostly interested in the plot and the dialogue. On subsequent watchings I may concentrate solely on the editing, or the score, or the production design, or the cinematography and so on. Most people do not watch movies like this so it is understandable that their requirements for their HT differ from mine. For all these reasons, I would not 'recommend' that anyone follow my own path, unless of course, they share my objectives (I have yet to meet anyone who does! LOL).
@Joe - does this help explain what I meant in my earlier post to you when I said 'decide what you want and then bite the bullet'? This is how I did it and it works for me, with my personal objectives. At some point we have to take the plunge - otherwise we are forever just walking around the pool and never enjoying the water.