CES: Panasonic Unveils 2013 TVs; New Smart TV Interface - Page 11

Originally Posted by ser_renely 

Thanks guys, that is clearer.

When do we think we will get more hands on info, reviews etc...? I really only care because I am on the cusp of buying a tv.

Originally Posted by gadgtfreek 

You are talking Mar-May before we really know whats going on, then give a few more months for other reviews and the shootout. I stopped buying displays in the first 6 months because of all the problems found over the last few years. If I had to buy right now, it would be a 2012 model at end of life cycle because I know what Im getting in to.

Originally Posted by RandyWalters 

Was it HH Gregg?? Around spring time in 2012, HH Gregg violated Panasonic's retailer pricing policies and Panasonic ceased doing business with them. We found out about it when people started posting that HH Gregg salesmen were falsely telling people that they dropped the Panasonic line because Panasonic was in trouble and couldn't provide inventory, but it turned out that it wasn't true at all.

But none of that scandal really has anything to do with their 2013 lineup or their future in PDP. Panasonic seems to be more committed to Plasma this year moreso than the other two companies and i think the reduced number of 2013 Samsung and LG models may actually help boost Panasonic sales this year. Panasonic needs to do a lot more marketing and advertising - word of mouth recommendations isn't enough to move product in this competitive world.

Originally Posted by Glashub 

I don't think this is the best picture because the conventional model has the flash right in the screen. I looked closely and if the image can be trusted at all, I see blacker blacks in the Z60 but not Kuro blacks. Your call.

Originally Posted by jh901 

No 70", right?

New Plasma flagship is the ZT series. Very interested to find PQ differences between it and the new VT series. And, of course, pricing.

Originally Posted by jh901 

No 70", right?

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Not big enough >TH-85PF12U or TH-103PF12U

Originally Posted by lee63 

This might be a real dumb question, but I'm in the market for a new plasma TV this year as I cant stand the blooming on my Sony HX 909 52...would the ST60 be a substantial upgrade for me ?

The ST50 got pretty good reviews last year, and the ST60 should be a little better I would think. At $1,599 for the 55", its well in my price range.

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by Speakerphile 

Any plasma will solve the blooming issue since this is inherent on a majority of LCD/LED sets. I would encourage you to look at Panasonic as they are arguably the premier plasma on the market. The ST50 was unofficially crowned the best value on the market last year, so I would expect similar things this year.

Originally Posted by winston9332 

What is amazing to me is this thread already has 11 pages (not to mention a parallel thread also discussing the new panasonics).

If you flip over to the lcd forum, there are a few 2013 led threads that might have two or three pages max.

Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma 

When I said spring/summer, they had said May 2013. We will see.........
With there being a VT60, I wonder where the price will be on the ZT60 ? I assume higher than the release price of the VT50 in the 2012 launch.

Originally Posted by chunon 

I think its a safe bet prices will be higher on the Vt60 and it uses the same panel as the vt50 unless you are planning on moving up to the z series i would go for a discounted vt50 one heck of a set

Originally Posted by fatuglyguy 

I wouldn't count on it. For what it's worth I never used any of the smart features or the touch remote on mine after the first week of ownership.

Originally Posted by LeKnobber 

Wow, that is too funny. Trying to figure out black level by looking at a picture with your own computer screen's crappy black level?! Please tell me this was a subtle attempt at irony.