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Originally Posted by yamvmax View Post

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure there will only be a 55" and60" zt.

It's 60" and 65" ZT.
post #482 of 516
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

I can't believe that they're going to hand-assemble the ZT60, they have state of the art robotics to handle that, and with a precision that a human can't match. I think something may have been mis-reported or translated wrong, because i just don't see this happening. It doesn't make good business sense. I think the most they'd do is fire up each TV after final assembly to ensure that there are no issues with it before boxing it up for shipment. Even that would be expensive.

Actually, if we are talking relatively small numbers, it would not surprise me if they did some sort of calibration on each set as it came off the line. However, I don't know how useful that calibration would be since the set would probably drift a bit up front as all of them do.

Yes, it would be expensive and would add to the overall cost of the unit.
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Originally Posted by weedeater View Post

Actually, if we are talking relatively small numbers, it would not surprise me if they did some sort of calibration on each set as it came off the line. However, I don't know how useful that calibration would be since the set would probably drift a bit up front as all of them do.

Yes, it would be expensive and would add to the overall cost of the unit.

Its been confirmed they are NOT hand built in ANY way.
post #484 of 516
If that really is the price, I'd be very pleasantly surprised.
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Originally Posted by FlexaPlate View Post

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post #486 of 516
Well Best buy telling me that the ut50 and st50 are going to be discontinued. They only had one 55 st50 left gt50 60 inch was 1800 bucks the 55 was on sale for 1299 AND THE salesman was going to knock down the 55 st50 to 1199 100 buck not bad for best buy. Too Bad my taxes for not in yet and not enough on my best buy card frown.gif New ones coming in april I be buying my first Plasma very soon birthday in may i see getting a very really present too my self. Zt is way out of my price range i leaning a 55 or 60 st60 not sure got the room for a 60 but is it work 300 more bucks or when the prices come out for the vt i dont think the vt 55 is going to be 1800 so if unless the older model gt or vt i can get for 1800 is around i be getting a st60 55 or 60 and even though there not as good i am sure it will be 110 percent improvement over my 2008 sony bravia xbr i will be a happy camper smile.gif
post #487 of 516
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Originally Posted by 77Rivers View Post

Well Best buy telling me that the ut50 and st50 are going to be discontinued. They only had one 55 st50 left gt50 60 inch was 1800 bucks the 55 was on sale for 1299 AND THE salesman was going to knock down the 55 st50 to 1199 100 buck not bad for best buy. Too Bad my taxes for not in yet and not enough on my best buy card frown.gif New ones coming in april I be buying my first Plasma very soon birthday in may i see getting a very really present too my self. Zt is way out of my price range i leaning a 55 or 60 st60 not sure got the room for a 60 but is it work 300 more bucks or when the prices come out for the vt i dont think the vt 55 is going to be 1800 so if unless the older model gt or vt i can get for 1800 is around i be getting a st60 55 or 60 and even though there not as good i am sure it will be 110 percent improvement over my 2008 sony bravia xbr i will be a happy camper smile.gif

Huh?confused.gif
post #488 of 516
sorry for the confusion did you have a question besides my miss type spelling i did lol
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Originally Posted by 77Rivers View Post

sorry for the confusion did you have a question besides my miss type spelling i did lol

I was trying to say I am having trouble comprehending what you wrote.
post #490 of 516
looking to get my first plasma wanted the st50 cant find any where in my area i live in duluth mn the only where i found one is online... i rather buy one threw best buy but my price with warranty max is 1800 i willing to wait for the new st60 either a 55 0r 60 but if and when the new ones come if i can get a gt or vt for the price at a 55 i going to jump on that so its a win win for me i like my sony xbr 40 inch its just not big enough for my needs alot of movies and sports ... mosty movies small gamer
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Originally Posted by 77Rivers View Post

looking to get my first plasma wanted the st50 cant find any where in my area i live in duluth mn the only where i found one is online... i rather buy one threw best buy but my price with warranty max is 1800 i willing to wait for the new st60 either a 55 0r 60 but if and when the new ones come if i can get a gt or vt for the price at a 55 i going to jump on that so its a win win for me i like my sony xbr 40 inch its just not big enough for my needs alot of movies and sports ... mosty movies small gamer

ST50's are going to be very difficult to get. I would keep an eye on GT50 prices over the next month or so. Unfortunately, your Best Buy does not have a Magnolia so it will not carry the GT50 models. You could always have them look up prices in their computer, and potentially order to that store. The new VT and ZT models with be considerably more expensive than the prices you are seeing now. Best to pick up a closeout GT50 if you would like to stay around $1800.
post #492 of 516
Yeah i hear you about trying too find a needle in the hay stack! They looked up the gt 55 in my area and there where only a few so i am sure they will be gone when i am ready to buy in two months so i am sure the new vt will be more than 1800 for a 55 so looks like st60 will what i be going for just not sure a 55 0r 60 i want a 60 but 1800 for a st60 not sure? i know that i dont want to wait too long because the pannys seem too be pretty popular set! I should of bought that st50 when i had the chance duluth had two left one new and a floor model 1199 for the new and 1099 for the floor model it was the 55 st50 but what i was saying still waiting on my taxes too come so 3 more weeks and i be ready to buy if the gt55 is still there i am sold but not holding my breathe so it looks like the st60 for sure sounds like there coming in march or april? Birthday is in may so very good birthday present too me! My Dad bought a sony 55 led trying convince me led is the way too go but after watch a plasma at a friends house i was hooked . First thing my dad said to me plasma are dead thats why there so cheap lmao i am so sick of hearing that ! I know i never had one before but I know i am getting one for sure!!! I dont care for 3d picture is very important too me!
post #493 of 516
Hey, guys, don't know if this has been posted yet, but the ZT60 has been in BB's inventory system for about a week now. retail pricing was 4099.98 for the 65" and I believe 3599.98 for the 60". I am not 100% on the 60" - I'm about 90% sure it was 3599 but it may have been 3699. I'll have to double check. The new VT was in there too but I can't recall pricing info.

Keep in mind that since these TVs aren't out yet pricing may change, but I generally find the pre-release pricing to be accurate.
post #494 of 516
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Originally Posted by 77Rivers View Post

Yeah i hear you about trying too find a needle in the hay stack! They looked up the gt 55 in my area and there where only a few so i am sure they will be gone when i am ready to buy in two months so i am sure the new vt will be more than 1800 for a 55 so looks like st60 will what i be going for just not sure a 55 0r 60 i want a 60 but 1800 for a st60 not sure? i know that i dont want to wait too long because the pannys seem too be pretty popular set! I should of bought that st50 when i had the chance duluth had two left one new and a floor model 1199 for the new and 1099 for the floor model it was the 55 st50 but what i was saying still waiting on my taxes too come so 3 more weeks and i be ready to buy if the gt55 is still there i am sold but not holding my breathe so it looks like the st60 for sure sounds like there coming in march or april? Birthday is in may so very good birthday present too me! My Dad bought a sony 55 led trying convince me led is the way too go but after watch a plasma at a friends house i was hooked . First thing my dad said to me plasma are dead thats why there so cheap lmao i am so sick of hearing that ! I know i never had one before but I know i am getting one for sure!!! I dont care for 3d picture is very important too me!

I just today had Amazon price match a 50 inch GT50 to Paul's $999.99 price and both at PaulsTV and Amazon price match a 60 inch GT50 should come down to about $1699. So if you're budget for a 60 inch set is $1800, I would save a few extra bucks and get a 2012 60 inch GT50 if they're still in stock or save A LOT and drop down to a 50 inch GT50 (if you were going to settle for the floor model STs a little while ago...)

Coupon code for the 60 inch GT is SAVE200 and for the 50 inch GT is SAVE140. Keep an eye on Amazon inventory, they're warn you when they're down to like 10 sets or less remaining.

(I doubt the ST60 will be much better then the 2012 GT ones, MAYBE slightly darker blacks but other then that it looks like new gimmicks (touch pen compatible, etc) and the same 2500 focus field drive.)
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Originally Posted by fatuglyguy View Post

Hey, guys, don't know if this has been posted yet, but the ZT60 has been in BB's inventory system for about a week now. retail pricing was 4099.98 for the 65" and I believe 3599.98 for the 60". I am not 100% on the 60" - I'm about 90% sure it was 3599 but it may have been 3699. I'll have to double check. The new VT was in there too but I can't recall pricing info.

Keep in mind that since these TVs aren't out yet pricing may change, but I generally find the pre-release pricing to be accurate.

You work at Best Buy or asked?

It would be nice if the 60" could sell for $3,200. Not MSRP, but a decent "discount" price. Also, consider that supposedly they will come with 2 pair of 3D glasses. Wonder if the new 3D glasses are in the BBY inventory system?
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Panasonic Europe Conference on Nice:
KRP600 VS ZT60 VS VT50







Thanks to HDTV Test for the pics.
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Thread Starter 
Panasonic TX-P60ZT60 (ZT60) Holds Its Own Against Kuro Challenge


By David Mackenzie • Monday, 11 February 2013, 5:27 pm GMT

Panasonic has officially launched its “Beyond The Reference” ZT60 plasma for the UK and European markets this afternoon. In a bold move that is designed to lay a lingering ghost to rest, the Japanese manufacturer actually demoed the much-anticipated plasma TV side-by-side against a now-discontinued Pioneer Kuro KRP-600A which is widely considered by many video enthusiasts to be the best flat-screen television of all time (until now).

Panasonic TX-P60ZT60 (ZT60) holds its own against Kuro challenge


Obviously, we won’t know for sure how the new Panasonic plasma compares to the venerable and sorely missed Kuro, but the fact that the company is directly pitting the two head-to-head certainly demonstrates confidence in the product, to say the least.

In European markets, the Viera ZT60 series will only be available in one 60-inch screen size, that is the Panasonic TX-P60ZT60 (or TX-P60ZT60B in the United Kingdom). Unusually for Panasonic, the brand is directly addressing the enthusiast market with the ZT60. We learned today that the display will ship with a premium booklet which carries individualised serial number as well as signature of the project’s lead engineer. There will be also gold-plated “plaques” on the back, and prominent exclusive branding when the television is turned on.

What’s more, we noticed that the Pioneer Kuro model on exhibit was beginning to be affected by a red tint in the blacks (uneven across the screen surface), which some users have reported. Obviously, we can’t say for sure how the TX-P60ZT60 will hold up over the long term, but it’s reassuring to know that enthusiasts may finally have a viable replacement for their aging TVs.

The ZT60 was also joined by the Panasonic VT50 series, an HDTV we rated highly in terms of black-level performance (at least in some of its picture modes). Obviously we’ll need to wait for review units before we can put it to science, but the black level of the 60ZT60 looks considerably better than last year’s best Panasonic plasma series, and subjectively assessed, is on par with the last-gen Kuro KRP-600A.

The Panasonic ZT60 uses a refined manufacturing process dubbed “Air Gapless Technology” (AGL) which does away with the air gap inbetween the front glass and the plasma panel – the two are now bonded together. Although we had no complaints about internal reflections on the VT50, it’s another reminder that Panasonic is pulling out all the stops to deliver a premium product.

There’s also a new red phosphor which extends the colour gamut, although all Panasonic plasmas have managed to fully reproduce the Rec.709 HDTV gamut for the last few years, so this impressive engineering feat is not necessarily of much use to those of us interested in accuracy. 30,720 steps of gradation are also promised for silky smooth images free of tone jumps.

Pricing has yet to be set in stone, but is said to be around the £4000 mark. The Panasonic TX-P60ZT60B is set to hit UK shops in May.
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Originally Posted by agkss View Post

Panasonic Europe Conference on Nice:
KRP600 VS ZT60 VS VT50







Thanks to HDTV Test for the pics.

MLL porn
post #499 of 516
Ugh, I'm salivating.
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Panasonic TX-P60ZT60 (ZT60) Holds Its Own Against Kuro Challenge

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/panasonic-tx-p60zt60-201302112658.htm




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Video from HDTVtest with Fabrice Estornel, Head of TV at Panasonic UK, about VIERA Plasma, LED LCD, ZT60, VT60 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDSUMWK6c2E
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Originally Posted by Bghead8che View Post

Chris,

What's your "guess" on the ZT 65" inch? 5K? 6K?

-Brian

I ordered a zt60 65 inch for 3400
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Originally Posted by GJVT60 View Post

I ordered a zt60 65 inch for 3400

From ?
post #505 of 516
It's from a Illinois store called abt - they're online at "abt.com"
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Originally Posted by GJVT60 View Post

I ordered a zt60 65 inch for 3400......from a Illinois store called abt - they're online at "abt.com"

Hmmm ABT huh? Sooooo, what is your scheduled delivery date? biggrin.gif
post #507 of 516
Just in abt yesterday. They didn't have a delivery date yet and didn't think that they would have one for at least a month.
post #508 of 516
I was told it would be early June. I'm in no rush.
post #509 of 516
Would it not be nice, if two weeks after CES all the products where on the shelf's for sale..........
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Would it not be nice, if two weeks after CES all the products where on the shelf's for sale..........

That's how it should be...definitely before the quarter is over.
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