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Great thread. I am a little long in the tooth now so I do not get into as much newer material as I used too. My favorite heavy metal album is probably Rust In Peace, Megadeth never approached that album before or after and no one else really did either as fall as blending thrash and jazz into a cohesive whole.

I saw them get a few mentions here, but I thought Mastodon would get a little more love. They remind me of the mid 80's thrash but still bringing something new each album. Their Leviathan, Blood Mountain, Crack the Skye album run was fantastic. All with a kick-ass drummer to boot.

Another group from a little further back I liked for a bit was Prong. They ended up going a little industrial later on which I did not like as much but their "Beg to Differ" album was great and chock full of riffs. They used several of them in the old "Headbangers Ball" theme music.


I see Opeth getting alot of attention. I have never gotten fully into them, but their producer Steve Wilson is top notch. I know its not really heavy metal, but his group Porcupine Tree is great. They started off a long time ago as a Pink Floyd inspired band, but since he started producing heavier bands his own band took on a heavier edge. Their "In Absentia" album is a great place to start. He has done many of these records in DVD-A 5.1 which sounds awesome on a good system.


I saw some talk about "Metal up your A$$" and I know many of you probably already have seen this, but it was great to see Dave jamming with his old bandmates:

Yep, all of these are basic knowledge smile.gif Mastodon will get more love once a newer album comes out.

If you like Steve Wilson, he also just put out a new album with his other project Blackfield.... Blackfield IV. I loved the first Blackfield album, but I'm not really digging the new one.
post #632 of 1183
Holy Hell, I never knew this thread existed eek.gif I am a big metal fan and am thrilled to have stumbled on this thread! I have been a long time fan of Fear Factory since I first heard them on the soundtrack for Mortal Kombat. Zero Signal is still probably my favorite FF song and Demanufacture is one of my fav albums ever. Obsolete is up there too. One thing I really miss from those days is when they would put out a remix album of the previous album. Fear Is the Mindkiller and Remanufacture were a lot of fun. That and the looks you get from people when cranking up the bass followed by Burton C. Bells epic voice is priceless! biggrin.gif I have been an Opeth fan for about a decade now and have seen them in concert 3 times. Luckily they were all small venue so I can get up close. Mikael Akerfelt is quite possibly the most awesome entertainer live. The way he just talks to the crowd and makes you feel involved in the concert is amazing. I don't know how to explain it but an Opeth concert is just a special experience. I can't wait for what their next "observation" will be. Though I do hope he brings some of the growls back. I like Heritage quite a bit, but his growl is just too amazing to not do any more.
I don't know if this has already been covered since I haven't made it through all the posts on this thread yet, but If you haven't listened to them yet, check out the band Bloodbath. It has half of the current lineup of Opeth (Mikael and Axe) but with a more death metal flavor. Good stuff. Start with 'Breeding Death'.
I am also a long time fan of Amorphis. with the exception of 'Far From The Sun' and to a lesser degree 'Am Universum' I love all their stuff. 'Circle', IMHO is the weakest of the discography with Tomi Joutsen on vocals, but it wasn't bad and certainly better than the other two stated. I listen to these guys all the time and can't get enough of em.
I have just recently become a fan of Amon Amarth. These guys are pretty brutal and kick ass. I saw them this summer at Mayhem Festival and they were awesome! In fact, almost all of the main stage acts were awesome. I say 'almost' because for me Mastodon almost ruined it. I noticed that there are several Mastodon fans on here and that's great, but for those who were saying that they put on a great show, this was definitely not one. In fact, I have seen them a total of 4 times now, because they just happened to be playing at the shows I went to see someone else, and I have yet to enjoy one of their shows. I don't know what it is about them but I just can't get into them, and it's not for a lack of trying. Even my friends who went with me were bored during their show. And they are Mastodon fans. Luckily Five Finger Death Punch and Rob Zombie both put on outstanding shows to finish out the night. It was awesome.
OK, enough windiness for now. I am just very excited to get to meet fellow metal-heads, especially on a predominantly home theater and home stereo forum. Please don't take my comments about Mastodon as a bashing or trying to start a fight. That is not my intent at all. If I pissed anyone off then accept my apologies. Just trying to share my experiences. I am going to go back and try to catch up on this thread. It's going to take awhile. biggrin.gif
post #633 of 1183
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I say 'almost' because for me Mastodon almost ruined it.

Don't worry about upsetting anyone around here biggrin.gif Just because we are metal fans doesn't mean we are homicidal!!! cool.gif The most unfortunate part is that Mastodon didn't put on a good show. I have seen dozens of great metal bands at my local small venue and Mastodon I have seen there 3 times now. They have never disappointed and have always filled the house to boot. You having seen them 4 times however, I guess just means they aren't going to real grow on you all that much at this point. Live concerts in many cases have make-or-break consequences for me and only a few bands have I completely tuned out after a show. I think the biggest one would be Trivium. They were absolutely horrible live and it was apparent that the after recording work they have to do to get them to sound good just makes the point of enjoying their music that much less enjoyable.
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Also, album of the day for me today is Across the Sun - Before the Night Takes Us. Pretty fun stuff here and I have been really enjoying the album
post #635 of 1183
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Don't worry about upsetting anyone around here biggrin.gif Just because we are metal fans doesn't mean we are homicidal!!! cool.gif The most unfortunate part is that Mastodon didn't put on a good show. I have seen dozens of great metal bands at my local small venue and Mastodon I have seen there 3 times now. They have never disappointed and have always filled the house to boot. You having seen them 4 times however, I guess just means they aren't going to real grow on you all that much at this point. Live concerts in many cases have make-or-break consequences for me and only a few bands have I completely tuned out after a show. I think the biggest one would be Trivium. They were absolutely horrible live and it was apparent that the after recording work they have to do to get them to sound good just makes the point of enjoying their music that much less enjoyable.

There are a couple of songs that I do like from Mastodon. March of the Fire Ants is one of them. But yes you are right, at this point I don't think I will ever be a Mastodon far. Although I did get an autographed poster from them at the Mayhem fest this year. biggrin.gif This is the same for me with System of a Down. I like a couple of their songs, but as a whole they pretty much annoy me.

I hear what you are saying about live vs. recorded acts. I saw Alice In Chains (albeit a long time ago) and they were awful at that concert. Which is a shame because they were one of the very few grunge bands that I actually liked.cool.gif On the other hand, Opeth is awesome live. The only thing that sucks at their concert was the venue itself. I live close to Seattle and they have been playing at this place called Showbox Sodo. Nice big open space with TERRIBLE acoustics. mad.gif The vocals tend to get drowned out very easily. I make up for it by fighting my way up to the stage. I usually manage to get within 1or 2 people of the fence by the stage in front. I tend to move off center a little because the pit tends to swallow people in the middle. I realized after my last Slayer concert that I am starting to get too old to stay in the pit anymore rolleyes.gif Oh well. There are many ways to enjoy metal. \m/ biggrin.gif
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Has anyone already had a discussion about metal albums or songs that are also high quality audio wise? As much as I love metal, most metal albums don't seem to be recorded with the highest of standards. In fact some of them sound like complete ass but I would like to discover some more metal albums to show off my system. You can only do Pink Floyd or Erich Kunzel & Cincinnati Pops Orchestra so many times before you get bored with them.

Here are a couple of high quality recordings that I am aware of:

Opeth - Blackwater Park (Fantastic album. Quality material with quality sonics. Every instrument can be descerned in the mix and never devolves into mush)
Opeth - Heritage (I know this really isn't your typical metal album, but the band is metal at its roots. Either way, I thought this album sounded awesome)
Opeth - Ghost Reveries (Yes, I know, another Opeth album, but this one also sounded almost as good as Blackwater Park did. This one is also my favorite Opeth album and it's recorded in HDCD to boot)
Tool - Aenema (The song Eulogy has some fantastic separation and stereo imaging)
Megadeth - Skin O' My Teeth (IMHO this song has the best fidelity on the entire album. The cymbals sound perfect and never devolve into the high frequency mess that a lot of metal albums exhibit and has a great sounding bass drum as well)
Graveworm - Dreaming Into Reality (Song from the 'Engraved in Black' album. Has pulse pounding double bass, growls and screams that stay pretty intelligible (for death metal) and a seriously heavy and epic sound and feel)

If anyone has other suggestions or can point me to an area where this conversation has already been held, I would truly appreciate it.
post #637 of 1183
im not sure its already been held, but we might as well have it here anyway, great idea to get a list of metal songs that have great recordings going
post #638 of 1183
The new Dream Theater album (self titled) streams in its entirety today. I can't wait!
post #639 of 1183
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Has anyone already had a discussion about metal albums or songs that are also high quality audio wise? As much as I love metal, most metal albums don't seem to be recorded with the highest of standards. In fact some of them sound like complete ass but I would like to discover some more metal albums to show off my system. You can only do Pink Floyd or Erich Kunzel & Cincinnati Pops Orchestra so many times before you get bored with them.

Here are a couple of high quality recordings that I am aware of:

Opeth - Blackwater Park (Fantastic album. Quality material with quality sonics. Every instrument can be descerned in the mix and never devolves into mush)
Opeth - Heritage (I know this really isn't your typical metal album, but the band is metal at its roots. Either way, I thought this album sounded awesome)
Opeth - Ghost Reveries (Yes, I know, another Opeth album, but this one also sounded almost as good as Blackwater Park did. This one is also my favorite Opeth album and it's recorded in HDCD to boot)
Tool - Aenema (The song Eulogy has some fantastic separation and stereo imaging)
Megadeth - Skin O' My Teeth (IMHO this song has the best fidelity on the entire album. The cymbals sound perfect and never devolve into the high frequency mess that a lot of metal albums exhibit and has a great sounding bass drum as well)
Graveworm - Dreaming Into Reality (Song from the 'Engraved in Black' album. Has pulse pounding double bass, growls and screams that stay pretty intelligible (for death metal) and a seriously heavy and epic sound and feel)

If anyone has other suggestions or can point me to an area where this conversation has already been held, I would truly appreciate it.

The new Amon Amarth album was pretty well done. Not sure how far you've read but I think Becoming the Archetype's album "The Trivial Paroxysm" is one of the best done albums I've ever heard. Killer head smashing vocals and fast technical riffs, and then some of the most chill breakdowns on most of the tracks. Just an awesome album alltogether.
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Yeah, I got the new Amon Amarth album and I am enjoying it quite a bit. It seems almost like Surtur Rising pt. 2 which I am thoroughly OK with. Surtur Rising was awesome!!! I had listened to a few A.A. songs previously and liked them (the Victorious March being the big one. Great tempo to work out to), but it was Destroyer Of The Universe from Surtur Rising that pretty much sealed the deal for me. After buying that album, I have listened to it so much I have lost count It is fantastic to work out to at the gym. biggrin.gif While I really like all the songs on the album, Doom Over Dead Man has really grown on me and is probably my second most favorite Amon Amarth song next to Destroyer Of The Universe. There is a lot of good material with this band. Twilight of the Thunder God was phenominal too. I haven't yet collected all of their albums yet but with what I do have, I have to say that I think I actually prefer the newer stuff more. That is not to say I don't like the old stuff, I do, but I enjoy the way Johan Hegg sings now more than I do with their older stuff. His style has changed a bit and IMHO for the better. It just has a more primal feel that I am looking for not to mention that the production value has risin exponentially. The old stuff can be a bit harsh to listen to at times. They were awesome to watch this summer at the Mayhem Festival. Fun stage setup and badass setlist. The only downside was that their setlist was just too short, but I was able to get my copy of Deceiver of the Gods autographed so that made up for it. I also got a poster autographed that I gave to a buddy who was not able to go to the concert. He was super excited! He is a huge Amon Amarth fan and I credit him with getting me into this band.

Thanks for the suggestion on Becoming the Archetype. I think I have heard them before but I will look into them more and see what they got.

Keep bangin' heads \m/

Eric
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The new Dream Theater album (self titled) streams in its entirety today. I can't wait!

+1. Been a fan of this band since I first saw 'Pull Me Under' on MTV all those years ago. Their music is also fantastic on a well wet up system. I listen to Train of Thought quite a bit. Love it! biggrin.gif
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+1. Been a fan of this band since I first saw 'Pull Me Under' on MTV all those years ago. Their music is also fantastic on a well wet up system. I listen to Train of Thought quite a bit. Love it! biggrin.gif

Very cool, I've been looking forward to the new one!

I have to disagree though on how good their production sounds. Images and Words, Awake, and Scenes from a Memory are fantastic, but the albums after that have a "dead" sound to me. Hard to explain but I don't like it. I've discussed it here before so I won't go on and on, but it's frustrating to me since I love the music on all of their albums. Train of Thought is awesome, love the heaviness of it but once again - that dead sound to it drives me nuts.

I wish they would produce an album that sounds like one of their 90's albums but I'm giving up hope on that. Still, the music itself is outstanding on every album - even my least favorite (Systematic Chaos) has some incredible moments.
post #643 of 1183
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Originally Posted by esappy View Post

Has anyone already had a discussion about metal albums or songs that are also high quality audio wise? As much as I love metal, most metal albums don't seem to be recorded with the highest of standards. In fact some of them sound like complete ass but I would like to discover some more metal albums to show off my system. You can only do Pink Floyd or Erich Kunzel & Cincinnati Pops Orchestra so many times before you get bored with them.

Here are a couple of high quality recordings that I am aware of:

Opeth - Blackwater Park (Fantastic album. Quality material with quality sonics. Every instrument can be descerned in the mix and never devolves into mush)
Opeth - Heritage (I know this really isn't your typical metal album, but the band is metal at its roots. Either way, I thought this album sounded awesome)
Opeth - Ghost Reveries (Yes, I know, another Opeth album, but this one also sounded almost as good as Blackwater Park did. This one is also my favorite Opeth album and it's recorded in HDCD to boot)
Tool - Aenema (The song Eulogy has some fantastic separation and stereo imaging)
Megadeth - Skin O' My Teeth (IMHO this song has the best fidelity on the entire album. The cymbals sound perfect and never devolve into the high frequency mess that a lot of metal albums exhibit and has a great sounding bass drum as well)
Graveworm - Dreaming Into Reality (Song from the 'Engraved in Black' album. Has pulse pounding double bass, growls and screams that stay pretty intelligible (for death metal) and a seriously heavy and epic sound and feel)

If anyone has other suggestions or can point me to an area where this conversation has already been held, I would truly appreciate it.


Good picks for well recorded metal I'll have to check out Graveworm, not familiar with them.

I would include (like I said above) Dream Theater's Images and Words, Awake, and Scenes from a Memory. Other than Opeth, for death metal vocals band I think Amon Amarth's Wtih Oden On Our Side is about the best sounding album I've heard.

Black Sabbath and Paranoid (first 2 albums) by Black Sabbath are very well done too, and the new album 13 is also incredible. 13 is great not just for production value but the music itself is incredible. It's my favorite album in a VERY long time, probably since I got into Opeth over 10 years ago. I can't say enough about it.

Of course the sell out Black album sounds great (especially the 5.1 dvd audio, it's awesome) and so do the Loads. I'm a MUCH bigger fan of pre black album of course, but the sound quality can't be denied. Check out the song Bleeding Me - awesome production and good song too.

Check out the song Believe in Nothing by Nevermore, in fact the whole album (Dead Heart in a Dead World) sounds really good.

I've always liked the production on October Rust by Type O Negative.

There are more, I'll include some when I have more time.
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I listened to the DT new album stream, as usual it's going to be outstanding.

The sound quality was bad because of the stream, but the music itself sounds great!! The song that grabbed my attention the most the first time around was Along for the Ride - beautiful. Love this band.


Nuance - have you checked out the stream yet?
post #645 of 1183
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Woah, I was partway through the last song when I posted the above. Wow, the strings are beautiful midway through the last song. Love this kind of stuff.

I'm very excited about this album. smile.gif
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i didn't catch the stream but I'm excited for the album, I've generally really liked everything DT has put out.

Been listening to Black clouds and Silver linings a lot lately. and TBH "The Count of Tuscany" is one of the greatest songs ever written, by anyone. the last 7 minuets or so are pure sonic perfection
post #647 of 1183
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i didn't catch the stream but I'm excited for the album, I've generally really liked everything DT has put out.

Been listening to Black clouds and Silver linings a lot lately. and TBH "The Count of Tuscany" is one of the greatest songs ever written, by anyone. the last 7 minuets or so are pure sonic perfection

Absolutely!!!! Everytime I listen to this song the last section forces me to get crazy with the volume. It just can't be helped - the volume is going to get out of control.


I dare you guys to go to the 14:15 mark and not crank the ever-loving-sh*t out of it until the end of the song. Keep in mind i have the volume pretty loud up until that mark but it goes way louder from that part to the end.







Great frickin call Adam.
post #648 of 1183
id actually suggest starting at the 11 min mark, the slow build up and that guitar is just amazing, and yes i got quite silly with the volume the other day with this, if you have seen pictures of where my speakers are and realize the space is tiny. +10 might have been pushing it
post #649 of 1183
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I listened to the DT new album stream, as usual it's going to be outstanding.

The sound quality was bad because of the stream, but the music itself sounds great!! The song that grabbed my attention the most the first time around was Along for the Ride - beautiful. Love this band.


Nuance - have you checked out the stream yet?
I sure did. smile.gif This album has a real old school school feel, which has me very excited. Illumination Theory blew my mind, and I cannot wait to hear it again. Dream Theater (self titled) is going to be very special me thinks.

I love The Count of Tuscany guys, minus the cheesy lyrics of course. :-) It's one of DT's best in the last decade. Illumination Theory is even better IMO.
post #650 of 1183
With all this DT talk I hope some of you big fans have this one:

http://www.amazon.com/Dream-Theater-Live-at-Budokan/dp/B005MJVN4G/ref=tmm_blu_title_0/182-5787707-4321908

There is some really well done stuff in that concert and it is one of the few concert discs where the instruments seem to flow as they walk to other areas of the stage and such. Vocals at points aren't quite there but the rest of the presentation I feel is great.
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I have Live @ Budokan-cool disc.
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This is kind of trippy but I almost bought DT's Live at Budokan today while I was at FYE. I didn't get it though but it sounds like I should have. Maybe next payday. My wife and I are going to the Kamelot/Delain concert tomorrow over in Seattle! biggrin.gif Time to get some prog on! I admittedly don't have hardly any Kamelot stuff right now, but I have a feeling that will soon change.
post #653 of 1183
The Live at Budokan Blu-Ray is extremely well done. It even gets mentions on a hi-fi website or two for it's great sound quality. It's one of the only concert BR's I actually still watch. The Train of Thought tour was epic!
post #654 of 1183
Listening to Liquid Metal the other night, had to turn this up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6gZW8flTpc

Megadeth Angry Again


Actually, Last Action Hero overall is a good sounding movie. The music makes it.
post #655 of 1183
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Woah, I was partway through the last song when I posted the above. Wow, the strings are beautiful midway through the last song. Love this kind of stuff.

I'm very excited about this album. smile.gif

The Deluxe version CD+DVD will be a DVD-A.

I've been a fan of the Dream Theater since 'Images and Words' and have been waiting the last eleven for a hi-rez recording. I'm very excited as well and placed my pre-order this morning.
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The Deluxe version CD+DVD will be a DVD-A.

I've been a fan of the Dream Theater since 'Images and Words' and have been waiting the last eleven for a hi-rez recording. I'm very excited as well and placed my pre-order this morning.


Yep, ordered mine too today.

http://www.amazon.com/Dream-Theater/dp/B00DJ80VLS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1379531679&sr=8-1&keywords=dream+theater
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another pre-order here as well.
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Order number 1184222xxxxx
post #659 of 1183
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So, I'm on Spotify tonight and I run across a band called Evile and the album called Five Serpent's Teeth.

Woah, great first impression. Loving the thrashy, very thrashy, riffs. Love guitars with that chugging repetitive riff sound - 80's Metallica being the prime example.

I went to look up some info on them and sure enough, their producer is Flemming Rasmussen!!! Oh, if only Metallica hadn't gotten rid of him.



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Oops, looks like only their first album was produced by Flemming.... I'll be checking out that one next.
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