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post #211 of 1474
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

This is very true. This is what Samsung promised at CES last year when they announced the Models that will be able to use this kit. This is why you can't believe anything they say sometimes.

This 1 of the main reasons i went with the es8000 over the lg8600/9600, not to mention i would have to wait 4-6 weeks for the lg's.I got the sammy in 10days.
So Yea i would be very upset that for the same price as this 55es8000 i could have had a lg 9600.
personally i don't care for all those apps in the smart hub for chatting & browsing, i have my pc ,xbox,ps3 & galxy s3 for those things.
If there is NO PQ as a upgrade & just "smart functions then this was a LIE & decietful of samsung.
i have a video made by samsung that said there would be added"PQ"
Lastly, they are saying this will have a quad core right? does that mean i'll actually have my dual core working in unison with the quad core?
post #212 of 1474
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Originally Posted by OugaBooga View Post

This 1 of the main reasons i went with the es8000 over the lg8600/9600, not to mention i would have to wait 4-6 weeks for the lg's.I got the sammy in 10days.
So Yea i would be very upset that for the same price as this 55es8000 i could have had a lg 9600.
personally i don't care for all those apps in the smart hub for chatting & browsing, i have my pc ,xbox,ps3 & galxy s3 for those things.
If there is NO PQ as a upgrade & just "smart functions then this was a LIE & decietful of samsung.
i have a video made by samsung that said there would be added"PQ"
Lastly, they are saying this will have a quad core right? does that mean i'll actually have my dual core working in unison with the quad core?

+++1


I completely agree man! You would be 150% right to feel this way if this happens once this kit comes out. I have a good feeling though that we will see some form of improvement with it
post #213 of 1474
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Originally Posted by OugaBooga View Post


Lastly, they are saying this will have a quad core right? does that mean i'll actually have my dual core working in unison with the quad core?

here bro...

1.3 GHz Quad Core Chip set, they are taking the existing dual core in the tv and combining with the evolution kit to make it a 1.3GHz QUAD CORE.

If you would had read the very 1st post of this thread you would already know the answer....lol... wink.gif
post #214 of 1474
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Originally Posted by EndeaverouX View Post

here bro...

1.3 GHz Quad Core Chip set, they are taking the existing dual core in the tv and combining with the evolution kit to make it a 1.3GHz QUAD CORE.

If you would had read the very 1st post of this thread you would already know the answer....lol... wink.gif

No need to be passive aggressive. Plus I think you are wrong, the evo kit itself is a quad core, and it is my impression that it bypasses your current dual core which is then made inactive. I do not believe they work in synergy.
post #215 of 1474
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Originally Posted by Mavinwow View Post

No need to be passive aggressive. Plus I think you are wrong, the evo kit itself is a quad core, and it is my impression that it bypasses your current dual core which is then made inactive. I do not believe they work in synergy.

I have seen a video where it does say that the new Evo kit completely by passes the dual core as well. I think that's what that other member was trying to say before Endeaverman went ape .. On him. Who knows.. We won't know these exact details until we have one probably. You can't even go by everything Samsung says either
post #216 of 1474
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Originally Posted by Mavinwow View Post

No need to be passive aggressive. Plus I think you are wrong, the evo kit itself is a quad core, and it is my impression that it bypasses your current dual core which is then made inactive. I do not believe they work in synergy.

Number 1... I wasnt being passive agressive brotha...chilax...it was a joke...lighten up...i dont put rumors in here..i always back up with solid sources... You too should have read all the sources i supplied in the very 1st post in this thread... Theres an article in there by cnet...read it all the info and sources first before calling someone passive aggressive...lol...no harm no foul....
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

I have seen a video where it does say that the new Evo kit completely by passes the dual core as well. I think that's what that other member was trying to say before Endeaverman went ape .. On him. Who knows.. We won't know these exact details until we have one probably. You can't even go by everything Samsung says either
Now i am an Ape.. Wow...really...
post #217 of 1474
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Originally Posted by EndeaverouX View Post

Number 1... I wasnt being passive agressive brotha...chilax...it was a joke...lighten up...i dont put rumors in here..i always back up with solid sources... You too should have read all the sources i supplied in the very 1st post in this thread... Theres an article in there by cnet...read it all the info and sources first before calling someone passive aggressive...lol...no harm no foul....
Now i am an Ape.. Wow...really...

LoL! No man.. Relax! I would never insult someone on here. I said Ape .., meaning ape crap can't use the word I wanted since its a swear word, but it means crap. So, ape Sh$& is what I meant.
post #218 of 1474
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

LoL! No man.. Relax! I would never insult someone on here. I said Ape .., meaning ape crap can't use the word I wanted since its a swear word, but it means crap. So, ape Sh$& is what I meant.

Now that u clarified it..it makes me feel even better....lol...
post #219 of 1474
From the UK site, poster who has known samsung connections:

"Email from Samsung this morning confirming again that the EK is still on track for 2nd quarter release with a guesstimated price point of £230."

~$360
post #220 of 1474
I'm really more interested to see if this kit will actually enable me to play Xbox games and the like on something other than the watered down "Game Mode." Games look fantastic on my ES8000, but half a split second of lag, and playing things like Forza, its really tough to accommodate. I can switch to game mode, which makes the image a bit "flatter" and less vibrant but no lag at all. Would like to see if this will solve my woes finally or no. Any news, knowledge, thoughts, ideas?
post #221 of 1474
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Originally Posted by johnnyntro View Post

I'm really more interested to see if this kit will actually enable me to play Xbox games and the like on something other than the watered down "Game Mode." Games look fantastic on my ES8000, but half a split second of lag, and playing things like Forza, its really tough to accommodate. I can switch to game mode, which makes the image a bit "flatter" and less vibrant but no lag at all. Would like to see if this will solve my woes finally or no. Any news, knowledge, thoughts, ideas?

I doubt the kit will do anything to improve gaming though I know exactly what you mean... I'm constantly switching game mode on and off... at frist I thought it made little difference but one day I was playing DOA 5 and the difference is quite noticeable.

The biggest piss off for me is that I paid more money for a TV with more "features" but I have to turn off everything in order to play a game normally.... what a joke.
Edited by digimat - 2/19/13 at 1:53pm
post #222 of 1474
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Originally Posted by digimat View Post

The biggest piss off for me is that I paid more money for a TV with more "features" but I have to turn off everything in order to play a game normally.

This. However, I got my hopes up when I saw improved GPU, so I have my fingers crossed. This will be the ONLY reason I pick one of these kits up.
post #223 of 1474
Does anyone know if the "banding" and, to a lesser extent the "flashlighting", issues with the 65 and, in some cases the 60, are caused by hardware or software? Moreover, is there anyway the EVO kit would be able to correct the issues?
post #224 of 1474
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Originally Posted by quicknick View Post

Does anyone know if the "banding" and, to a lesser extent the "flashlighting", issues with the 65 and, in some cases the 60, are caused by hardware or software? Moreover, is there anyway the EVO kit would be able to correct the issues?

as of right now, nobody knows...but from what we do know the evo kit will just give us a newer faster smart hub interface.... I think we are all in a agreement here that the evo kit will do jack for picture quality, flashing, banding...etc....

you can hope and cross your fingers all you want...but I wouldn;t hold my breath.... I leave my expectations very low that way I won't be disappointed....it's a good life lesson... wink.gif
post #225 of 1474
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Originally Posted by EndeaverouX View Post

as of right now, nobody knows...but from what we do know the evo kit will just give us a newer faster smart hub interface.... I think we are all in a agreement here that the evo kit will do jack for picture quality, flashing, banding...etc....

you can hope and cross your fingers all you want...but I wouldn;t hold my breath.... I leave my expectations very low that way I won't be disappointed....it's a good life lesson... wink.gif

This was posted by TonyaNorway on the AV forums, he's got contacts at Samsung

There's been a lot of speculation regarding the incomming Evolution Kit and exactly what it's going to do.
According to an email I received this morning from Samsung, it will definately boost the picture processing of the 8000 series along with the new SH, online HD codecs and advanced motion/speech control features that have already been talked about.

So it will indeed bring last year's models up to the "F" series specification.
Straight from the horse's mouth so to speak :-)
post #226 of 1474
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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

This was posted by TonyaNorway on the AV forums, he's got contacts at Samsung

There's been a lot of speculation regarding the incomming Evolution Kit and exactly what it's going to do.
According to an email I received this morning from Samsung, it will definately boost the picture processing of the 8000 series along with the new SH, online HD codecs and advanced motion/speech control features that have already been talked about.

So it will indeed bring last year's models up to the "F" series specification.
Straight from the horse's mouth so to speak :-)


The big question remains if the EVO kit will do anything regarding the systemic banding and flashlighting issues. I'm wondering if there is a means to query Samsung directly on the effectiveness of the kit in these regards.
post #227 of 1474
I didn't think this through. I believe I have now answered my own question. The EVO will very likely NOT provide a fix to the banding and flashlighting issues because if it had a fix Samsung would obviously include the fix in its updates as a freebie - rather than forcing all 8000 customers to have to purchase the kit.
post #228 of 1474
Banding and flashlighting are hardware issue with regard to the panel itself. No software and or processing upgrade will fix that issue.
post #229 of 1474
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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

This was posted by TonyaNorway on the AV forums, he's got contacts at Samsung

There's been a lot of speculation regarding the incomming Evolution Kit and exactly what it's going to do.
According to an email I received this morning from Samsung, it will definately boost the picture processing of the 8000 series along with the new SH, online HD codecs and advanced motion/speech control features that have already been talked about.

So it will indeed bring last year's models up to the "F" series specification.
Straight from the horse's mouth so to speak :-)

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Originally Posted by quicknick View Post

The big question remains if the EVO kit will do anything regarding the systemic banding and flashlighting issues. I'm wondering if there is a means to query Samsung directly on the effectiveness of the kit in these regards.

no offense, I dont know who "TonyaNorway", no disrespect or offense to him, but We all in here need FACTs in solid stone and concrete multiple sources. A friend of a friend told me this and that does not cut it around here...

Just because he has a contact at samsung doesn't mean jack or didly squat...we need something more official from samsung..not more rumors or speculation...

just keeping this thread real and fair and balanced.....
post #230 of 1474
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Originally Posted by EndeaverouX View Post


no offense, I dont know who "TonyaNorway", no disrespect or offense to him, but We all in here need FACTs in solid stone and concrete multiple sources. A friend of a friend told me this and that does not cut it around here...

Just because he has a contact at samsung doesn't mean jack or didly squat...we need something more official from samsung..not more rumors or speculation...

just keeping this thread real and fair and balanced.....

With the lack of any information then this is the the best you'll get at the moment, maybe I shouldn't have bothered.
post #231 of 1474
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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

With the lack of any information then this is the the best you'll get at the moment, maybe I shouldn't have bothered.

hey I appreciate the effort...as a thread starter I have the overwhemling responsiblity to keep this honest.....I never speculate or follow rumors...I base every piece of info here on nothing but facts....

no harm no foul brother....we just have to wait and see what happens, when it comes out, I will do a full video review on the evo kit.... wink.gif
post #232 of 1474
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Originally Posted by EndeaverouX View Post

hey I appreciate the effort...as a thread starter I have the overwhemling responsiblity to keep this honest.....I never speculate or follow rumors...I base every piece of info here on nothing but facts....

no harm no foul brother....we just have to wait and see what happens, when it comes out, I will do a full video review on the evo kit.... wink.gif

Fair enough, it's all guesswork at this stage which I think is out of order on Samsung's part, we've known about this kit for well over a year now it's about time they let us know what we're getting. I'd rather pay extra for a full upgrade to F8 spec than a couple of hundred just for smarthub and voice improvements
post #233 of 1474
I am risking the wrath of the "thread starter," but here is some info from a reliable poster on the UK site:

"Ok guys, some official info for the more curious among you.

1) The final release version of EK will be a few cm thick and is designed to fit with wall mounted setups.
What was shown at CES was an engineering prototype.

2) The new "F" series will use the same LCD panels as the current "E" series.

3) An ES8000 + EK = F8000.

4) There's a big screen OLED in the works coming after the F series"
post #234 of 1474
Will this Evolution Kit work on a 51E7000 plasma and a 55ES7100 LED? And all it does is upgrade the Smart TV interface?
post #235 of 1474
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Originally Posted by Mavinwow View Post

I am risking the wrath of the "thread starter," but here is some info from a reliable poster on the UK site:

"Ok guys, some official info for the more curious among you.

1) The final release version of EK will be a few cm thick and is designed to fit with wall mounted setups.
What was shown at CES was an engineering prototype.

2) The new "F" series will use the same LCD panels as the current "E" series.

3) An ES8000 + EK = F8000.

4) There's a big screen OLED in the works coming after the F series"
So the budget conscious should maybe get an ES7100 or ES8000 at a good clearance price rather than wait on the F series at a much higher price point? Anotherwords, no revolutionary changes after adding the Ev Kit?
post #236 of 1474
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Originally Posted by Mavinwow View Post

I am risking the wrath of the "thread starter," but here is some info from a reliable poster on the UK site:

"Ok guys, some official info for the more curious among you.

1) The final release version of EK will be a few cm thick and is designed to fit with wall mounted setups.
What was shown at CES was an engineering prototype.

2) The new "F" series will use the same LCD panels as the current "E" series.

3) An ES8000 + EK = F8000.

4) There's a big screen OLED in the works coming after the F series"

wrath? very funny....

Please provide a url link and source...

Besides your info really has nothing to do with the EVO KIT...there are other threads on the ES & F series....check them out....
post #237 of 1474
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Will this Evolution Kit work on a 51E7000 plasma and a 55ES7100 LED? And all it does is upgrade the Smart TV interface?

5.Only available for these 2012 models: LED-based UN75ES9000, UNES8000, and UNES7500 LED TVs, as well as the PNE8000 and PNE7000 plasmas

check the very 1st post on this thread, it tells you everything you need to know, including every tv that will and will not work.... wink.gif
post #238 of 1474
Is this kit available yet?
post #239 of 1474
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Originally Posted by sabesh View Post

Is this kit available yet?

nope, i comtacted samsung last week...no time or price as of yet......i'm not holding my breath to be honest with you....
post #240 of 1474
It's beyond a joke now, I need to know whether to stick with my ES or upgrade to the F. This better be worth waiting for.
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