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post #1951 of 3645
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Yes, Anthony may come off as extreme, but there is no denying that a lot of his stuff is true and for you to make statements like you did make you no better than him and if anything makes you look worse because you appear to defend the shady practices of Samsung. The F8500 is just another example if corporate greediness.

Honestly couldn´t care less if you think how i look, better or worst than Anthony........

And second: Show some respect since you know nothing about me. Ok?. I don´t defend Samsung in any whay.

Since i don´t want to feed a troll (i´m not refering to you cmay91472) directly or indirectly feel free to pm if you want to continue this discussion further. This is the Samsung F8000 -- 2013 Flagship Models and not "Anthony vs Samsung".

I made my point, once, and that´s enough for me.

Lets keep this thread clean.
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In most States in the US there would not be any tax added to the Amazon price.

Regards,
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Originally Posted by jcthomas View Post

In most States in the US there would not be any tax added to the Amazon price.

Regards,

Thanks so the prices are probably a fair reflection of pricing at the moment, ridiculous difference then.
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Very strange decision they've made. This sounds like it could be a big difference between the two sets if the UE version still relies on CE-Dimming, while the UN version no longer needs to because of precision black or other features. Why would they decide to do that?

And I swear I still saw some CE-Dimming effects on the demo model I saw in Best Buy last week. The white text on an all black background dimmed. I still wonder just how much screen-dimming will be going on. It doesn't help that Samsung named their premier technology "micro-dimming", when another tech that is so despised and causes negative effects also has the word "dimming" in it's name (CE-Dimming). Samsung and their confusing terminology.

You are definitely right about samsung using confusing terminology and overlapping features. They claim their ultra clear panel increases contrast and deepens blacks while absorbing ambient light. Then they have ce dimming which is software based which dims the whole screen to get deeper blacks and is not a menu function. And if you are right about seeing it at best buy I hope it's just for nearly all dark scenes fading to black since its not necessary on a regular basis with led dimming. I also hope it is defeatable in the service menu this year if it still rears its ugly head, if not there is always the workaround of increasing the brightness around 55-60 and compensating with rgb offset if I remember correctly. Anyways they also have micro dimming ultimate which is software based which divides the screen into I think close to 2000 zones and adjusts them for contrast, color, and sharpness (a highly marketed feature that I could frankly do without). Last year samsung hoped that this would be the answer to their haloing and uniformity issues with the d8000, but it actually made it worse. This year they brought back precision black which is called smart led in the menu for some reason and that is actually hardware dimming of the LEDs in horizontal rows and 2 vertical rows (right half and left) making up about 250-300 zones. And then the have cinema black which only turns off those top and bottom zones depending on where the black bars are. All that plus they still have features in the menu called black tone and dynamic contrast. I'm almost certain that dynamic contrast is micro dimming, but I'm not sure, maybe someone can confirm. But it truley is enough to make ones head spin. And then sometimes they features away with fw updates lol
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Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post

Honestly couldn´t care less if you think how i look, better or worst than Anthony........

And second: Show some respect since you know nothing about me. Ok?. I don´t defend Samsung in any whay.

Since i don´t want to feed a troll (i´m not refering to you cmay91472) directly or indirectly feel free to pm if you want to continue this discussion further. This is the Samsung F8000 -- 2013 Flagship Models and not "Anthony vs Samsung".

I made my point, once, and that´s enough for me.

Lets keep this thread clean.

Show some respect? I'm not the one who made a statement showing no respect in regards to someone who you quoted as "proven to be a liar" when he is anything but. To try to discredit all of the true information he has shared with us over a post on amazon seems a little extreme to me.

I agree however that we should keep this thread clean, but keep in mind your own advice as you did anything but with your post in regards to Anthony.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

You may or may not agree with everything Anthony has said, but there is NO DENYING a lot of which he has said is TRUE. There is no denying that Samsung has removed features via firmware. There is no denying Samsung has not included features in certain regions fog the same TV. There is no denying Samsung has been guilty of trying to bribe or threaten bloggers/reviewers into giving favorable reviews, there is no denying Samsung has been hound guilty in class action lawsuits of knowingly using faulty parts.

Yes, Anthony may come off as extreme, but there is no denying that a lot of his stuff is true and for you to make statements like you did make you no better than him and if anything makes you look worse because you appear to defend the shady practices of Samsung. The F8500 is just another example if corporate greediness.
With the amount of joy and thrill we all experience from these products, why would we begrudge the company that develops and produces them for making a profit? It's like the people who complain that the oil companies make too much profit but continue to drive cars, use plastics, and benefit from all of the other byproducts of petroleum and then expect that it's done for free. The markup on an ear of corn is of a much higher percentage than any of these and no one rants about that. We could live in a socialist utopia where no one earns a profit or has any motivation to spend time and money to develop these things and still be watching 9" crts (if we were luck).
Edited by keeso - 3/26/13 at 6:23am
post #1957 of 3645
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Originally Posted by keeso View Post

With the amount of joy and thrill we all experience from these products, why would we begrudge the company that develops and produces them for making a profit? It's like the people who complain that the oil companies make too much profit but continue to drive cars, use plastics, and benefit from all of the other byproducts of petroleum and then expect that it's done for free. The markup on an ear of corn is of a much higher percentage than any of these and no one rants about that. We could live in a socialist utopia where no one earns a profit or has any motivation to spend time and money to develop these things and still be watching 9" crts (if we were luck).

No one begrudges a company for making a profit honestly, but you have to seriously question some of Samsungs tactics. If you bought new car... Then discover that after a service at the dealership that one of the cars features was removed without you knowing or permission, would you call that honest? That's exactly what Ssmsung did with features on the ES8000 by secretly removing/disabling features via firmware.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

No one begrudges a company for making a profit honestly, but you have to seriously question some of Samsungs tactics. If you bought new car... Then discover that after a service at the dealership that one of the cars features was removed without you knowing or permission, would you call that honest? That's exactly what Ssmsung did with features on the ES8000 by secretly removing/disabling features via firmware.

Then why are you even in the Samsung thread if they are such a bad company? They are NO DIFFERENT than any other company that makes promises - sometimes they deliver, sometimes they do not. GET OVER IT. People come to the board to find the best TV they can get for X amount of dollars and it appears that the F8000 is the best in its price range today for an LED LCD.

Also - Anthony is ABSOLUTELY a liar. See his original post on amazon several pages back in which he doesn't mention that he even owned the set. After several complaints there and accross the various forums that he monitors, he went back and said that he purchased the set; did in home tests; and the brought it back and had an in depth discussion with the manager about how the $700 S60 is a better set. Is it not obvious to you that he added that after the fact that people complained? He even posted on a different forum that all he did was talk to the manager and someone called him out for his inconsistencies.

Enough with talking about this guy that is BANNED. He was also told to quit posting so much jibberish on a different forum about how the ES8000 is the same is the F8000 and the Samsung conspirecy theories.

Let's end it and get back to talking about this set.
post #1959 of 3645
+1.. There are waaaaay too many egos on this thread that have an agenda. Pseudo experts and biased opining have made this thread hard to slog through.
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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

Thanks so the prices are probably a fair reflection of pricing at the moment, ridiculous difference then.


Agreed, if you mean the enormous taxes collected in Europe are ridiculous.

I'd far rather pay Samsung a fair profit (not saying whether or not Samsung's practice of Capitalism is fair or not here) than load up a bunch of EU bureaucrats with extra booty to blow on misguided utopianism.

The price difference seems to be mainly what you pay for the type of government you voted for. Sadly, we seem to be headed in the same direction on this side of the pond.

That said, I had suspected that Samsung was holding out those features for the F8500. If my plan wasn't to wall mount my 75'", I'd prefer the stand on the 8500. As it is, I'm glad I don't have to pay more for a stand I don't intend to use just to get the features I want.

I feel bad for you guys over there in the same boat.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

There is no denying Samsung has been guilty of trying to bribe or threaten bloggers/reviewers into giving favorable reviews.....

Cmay, that's a pretty serious charge. I generally agree with much of what you say, but this one you really need to show some proof before people start to throw out the findings of some respected reviewers.
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

Cmay, that's a pretty serious charge. I generally agree with much of what you say, but this one you really need to show some proof before people start to throw out the findings of some respected reviewers.

Keep in mind, I never discredited any respected reviewers, I just said Samsung PR is known to do this. There is nothing illegal about the tactic... That's PR.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saBl2wY1uzo

http://reviews.cnet.com/how-we-test/tv/
Edited by cmay91472 - 3/26/13 at 9:45am
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Originally Posted by dad0118 View Post

Then why are you even in the Samsung thread if they are such a bad company? They are NO DIFFERENT than any other company that makes promises - sometimes they deliver, sometimes they do not. GET OVER IT. People come to the board to find the best TV they can get for X amount of dollars and it appears that the F8000 is the best in its price range today for an LED LCD.

Also - Anthony is ABSOLUTELY a liar. See his original post on amazon several pages back in which he doesn't mention that he even owned the set. After several complaints there and accross the various forums that he monitors, he went back and said that he purchased the set; did in home tests; and the brought it back and had an in depth discussion with the manager about how the $700 S60 is a better set. Is it not obvious to you that he added that after the fact that people complained? He even posted on a different forum that all he did was talk to the manager and someone called him out for his inconsistencies.

Enough with talking about this guy that is BANNED. He was also told to quit posting so much jibberish on a different forum about how the ES8000 is the same is the F8000 and the Samsung conspirecy theories.

Let's end it and get back to talking about this set.

What conspiracy theories? The only thing he posted that I've seen that could remotely be considered a conspiracy theory is the firmware that worsens the picture. But just about everything else I've seen him post like the items I posted a few posts back are fact. The only people who know for sure whether the ES8000 or F8000 are indeed the same TV is Ssmsung engineers themselves. Not me. Not you. Not Anyone. So how can you call it jibberish unless you are a Samsung engineer? You can't.... So if someone wants to post opinion, so be it. I just find it odd that you care so much about Anyhony and his theories that you need to follow him around to other forums to criticize and complain about him and his posts. Seriously? If you don't want to read his posts, ignore them and let others read and decide for themselves. It's not that big of a deal, but yet I read post after post from you and a select few others always trying to accuse him of something. Let the man be in peace and if you don't agree, just ignore it instead of continually fueling the flames.
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Originally Posted by keeso View Post

With the amount of joy and thrill we all experience from these products, why would we begrudge the company that develops and produces them for making a profit? It's like the people who complain that the oil companies make too much profit but continue to drive cars, use plastics, and benefit from all of the other byproducts of petroleum and then expect that it's done for free. The markup on an ear of corn is of a much higher percentage than any of these and no one rants about that. We could live in a socialist utopia where no one earns a profit or has any motivation to spend time and money to develop these things and still be watching 9" crts (if we were luck).

My ES7500 last year did not bring me joy - it brought me frustration, and Samsung's method of dealing with the faulty set was basically to tell me to take a hike. It was because of Anthony's persistence in telling me not to give up and let them get away with it that I fought Samsung and pushed the issue, finally resulting in them refunding the set after multiple repair attempts.

I don't begrudge a company for making money. But I do begrudge a company when they treat their customers like garbage, and do their best to mislead them with deceptive marketing. Remember a couple years ago when they were found guilty of lying on their marketing and advertising about some of their tv's by advertising them as full 1080p 3D, when they weren't. And how they knowingly used bad capacitors in their tvs. That's the problem I have with them - they are a deceptive company. That make some very cautious about buying another model from them.
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Originally Posted by dad0118 View Post

Then why are you even in the Samsung thread if they are such a bad company? They are NO DIFFERENT than any other company that makes promises - sometimes they deliver, sometimes they do not. GET OVER IT. People come to the board to find the best TV they can get for X amount of dollars and it appears that the F8000 is the best in its price range today for an LED LCD.

Also - Anthony is ABSOLUTELY a liar. See his original post on amazon several pages back in which he doesn't mention that he even owned the set. After several complaints there and accross the various forums that he monitors, he went back and said that he purchased the set; did in home tests; and the brought it back and had an in depth discussion with the manager about how the $700 S60 is a better set. Is it not obvious to you that he added that after the fact that people complained? He even posted on a different forum that all he did was talk to the manager and someone called him out for his inconsistencies.

Enough with talking about this guy that is BANNED. He was also told to quit posting so much jibberish on a different forum about how the ES8000 is the same is the F8000 and the Samsung conspirecy theories.

Let's end it and get back to talking about this set.

I just thought I'd mention that I was wrongfully banned from the ES8000 thread. A troll got the best of me, and due to a single comment I made back at him, I ended up getting banned, along with him. Thankfully, some very kind members there spoke up on my behalf to a moderator, and after some consideration, the moderator removed the ban. So just because Anthony was banned doesn't make him automatically a troll. Some members in the ES8000 thread took it personally any time somebody spoke out against Samsung or had anything negative to say about the tv.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

What conspiracy theories? The only thing he posted that I've seen that could remotely be considered a conspiracy theory is the firmware that worsens the picture. But just about everything else I've seen him post like the items I posted a few posts back are fact. The only people who know for sure whether the ES8000 or F8000 are indeed the same TV is Ssmsung engineers themselves. Not me. Not you. Not Anyone. So how can you call it jibberish unless you are a Samsung engineer? You can't.... So if someone wants to post opinion, so be it. I just find it odd that you care so much about Anyhony and his theories that you need to follow him around to other forums to criticize and complain about him and his posts. Seriously? If you don't want to read his posts, ignore them and let others read and decide for themselves. It's not that big of a deal, but yet I read post after post from you and a select few others always trying to accuse him of something. Let the man be in peace and if you don't agree, just ignore it instead of continually fueling the flames.

What conspiracy theories? Well, let's see - As you mentioned, Samsung "rolling back firmare" to make the picture look worse so that people will buy the F8000 instead of the prior year models. If anything, wasn't the picture improved on with the1046 update? He also thinks that anyone that disagrees with him is a Samsung salesmen with a bias agenda. I could go on and on but feel I don't need to.

And in response to "Why am I following him around..." - I am not. I monitor all the major forums/threads discussing the F8000 because I am a potential buyer. In each thread he posts in, people become tired of his nonsense and end up leaving. Again, I could provide examples, but I don't feel the need to.

And you are right, I cannot literally PROVE that the F8000 is a better TV, but I did purchase/return a few sets last year and all had flashlighting/clouding issues. None of the major reviews posted so far mention any such issues. You can argue it has "better software", but I have owned several TV's through the year, and none have EVER had improved uniformity as the result of an update. Again, I cannot PROVE you wrong here - merely rely on logic and my past experience with these sets.
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Originally Posted by jetjocky View Post

+1.. There are waaaaay too many egos on this thread that have an agenda. Pseudo experts and biased opining have made this thread hard to slog through.

I can't speak for anybody else, but speaking for myself, my only agenda is finding the best tv I can afford to buy. Regardless of my feelings for Samsung personally, if they end up making a tv this year that addresses the issues last year's sets were plagued with, then I will certainly consider them.

People are entitled to opinions - if you were spoken to by the Office of the President at Samsung the way I was, you would understand some of the hostility some members have towards them. It was truly amongst the rudest, worst customer service experiences I have ever been faced with. Yet other employees were very pleasant and helpful, like the one who apologized for that treatment and ultimately set up my repair visits.

I do agree we should all concentrate on discussing the F8000, but there's no getting away from the fact that the ES series will be mentioned because there will most certainly be comparisons made, and people want to know if they are any better than last year.
Edited by eagle_2 - 3/26/13 at 10:28am
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

I just thought I'd mention that I was wrongfully banned from the ES8000 thread. A troll got the best of me, and due to a single comment I made back at him, I ended up getting banned, along with him. Thankfully, some very kind members there spoke up on my behalf to a moderator, and after some consideration, the moderator removed the ban. So just because Anthony was banned doesn't make him automatically a troll. Some members in the ES8000 thread took it personally any time somebody spoke out against Samsung or had anything negative to say about the tv.

I was given an infraction in that thread after calling out Anthony and his b/s. Some of what he posted might have been helpful to some members, but you could smell his load of bull miles away. I stopped posting and visiting that thread because of his constant nonsense and tall tales about who/what/where he was. Anyhow, glad it caught up to him.

Bought the 75" LED Samsung. Overall fairly pleased with it. Would I spend that much again on a set? Probably not. A lot of fur coat an no knickers as far as I'm concerned. Wonderful pictures, but definitely now worth what I paid. Looking forward to seeing the new F series and possibly purchasing one if it lives up to the hype.

Holy cow. Just looked at my info and realize I've been farting around here for 10 years. eek.gif
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Originally Posted by badboi View Post

I was given an infraction in that thread after calling out Anthony and his b/s. Some of what he posted might have been helpful to some members, but you could smell his load of bull miles away. I stopped posting and visiting that thread because of his constant nonsense and tall tales about who/what/where he was. Anyhow, glad it caught up to him.

Bought the 75" LED Samsung. Overall fairly pleased with it. Would I spend that much again on a set? Probably not. A lot of fur coat an no knickers as far as I'm concerned. Wonderful pictures, but definitely now worth what I paid. Looking forward to seeing the new F series and possibly purchasing one if it lives up to the hype.

Holy cow. Just looked at my info and realize I've been farting around here for 10 years. eek.gif

In what ways do you hope the F series can improve upon the ES9000? I don't follow that thread enough to know of common problems people have with it.
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Originally Posted by dad0118 View Post

In what ways do you hope the F series can improve upon the ES9000? I don't follow that thread enough to know of common problems people have with it.

I don't really have a problem with the set, other than looking back I don't think it was worth the premium being charged over the 60 and 65" sets out at the time. And now that I'm moving house, it looks as if size may be an issue in the new location. Will more than likely have to downsize to a 60" set. frown.gif
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Originally Posted by dad0118 View Post

What conspiracy theories? Well, let's see - As you mentioned, Samsung "rolling back firmare" to make the picture look worse so that people will buy the F8000 instead of the prior year models. If anything, wasn't the picture improved on with the1046 update? He also thinks that anyone that disagrees with him is a Samsung salesmen with a bias agenda. I could go on and on but feel I don't need to.

And in response to "Why am I following him around..." - I am not. I monitor all the major forums/threads discussing the F8000 because I am a potential buyer. In each thread he posts in, people become tired of his nonsense and end up leaving. Again, I could provide examples, but I don't feel the need to.

And you are right, I cannot literally PROVE that the F8000 is a better TV, but I did purchase/return a few sets last year and all had flashlighting/clouding issues. None of the major reviews posted so far mention any such issues. You can argue it has "better software", but I have owned several TV's through the year, and none have EVER had improved uniformity as the result of an update. Again, I cannot PROVE you wrong here - merely rely on logic and my past experience with these sets.

Dad0118, with all due respect.....

1046 firmware enabled the dimming of the top and bottom zones of the TV in movie mode. It did improve the ES8000 image. The ES8000 was always capable of cinema black, but Samsung just chose to disable it. It's their choice and right to do so since they never sold the TV with that feature, but I do have an issue with features like edge enhancement and shadow detail being removed via firmware without notifying the end user. Do you think that is fair or right? If they had a disclaimer telling users those features would be removed, then I would not have an issue.

In regards to "following Anthony around". Fine, you just happen to be in the same place at the same time. Regardless of what he posts, why can't you be civil and just ignore him instead of always fueling the flames with a post directed at trying to call him a liar. We get it, you don't agree with him. But your constant bickering with him via posts in public forums is tiring and old. You say let's just focus on the topic at hand, then do so and stop instigating.

Lastly, I said you can't, nor can anyone else prove or disprove that the F8000 is indeed the ES8000 repackaged with full user control over dimming. I'm starting to think you don't actually read these posts as you are so quick to try to get your points across.... and yes..... the ES8000 did have improved uniformity because of an update as the 1046 enabled the cinema black feature as stated above (although it is not user controlled) for movie mode so you kind of contradicted yourself within your own post.
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

Cmay, that's a pretty serious charge. I generally agree with much of what you say, but this one you really need to show some proof before people start to throw out the findings of some respected reviewers.

Maybe they only bribe disrespected reviewers. Those guys still get page views. smile.gif
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Thread Starter 
Just to clarify on taxes, Amazon currently charges sales tax in a number of large U.S. states, including California, Texas, New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. Those states typically have a tax rate of 8% (very broadly, on average, the rates range from about 5-10% depending on locality, but most people pay around 8%.)

About 1/3 of U.S. citizens live in those 5 states alone and if you include the other smaller states that Amazon also charges sales tax, about 1/3 of Americans pay taxes of approximately that much on Amazon purchases.

Sorry to go off topic, but I felt it was relevant to mention this. And, of course, those taxes are on top of the prices listed online at Amazon.
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

Just to clarify on taxes, Amazon currently charges sales tax in a number of large U.S. states, including California, Texas, New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. Those states typically have a tax rate of 8% (very broadly, on average, the rates range from about 5-10% depending on locality, but most people pay around 8%.)

About 1/3 of U.S. citizens live in those 5 states alone and if you include the other smaller states that Amazon also charges sales tax, about 1/3 of Americans pay taxes of approximately that much on Amazon purchases.

Sorry to go off topic, but I felt it was relevant to mention this. And, of course, those taxes are on top of the prices listed online at Amazon.

Luckily PA is on the lower end at only 6%.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

Luckily PA is on the lower end at only 6%.

21% tax in Spain and that counting that we always suffer from unfair 1$ to 1€ conversion from original USA's prices, so you are all lucky.
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

No one begrudges a company for making a profit honestly, but you have to seriously question some of Samsungs tactics. If you bought new car... Then discover that after a service at the dealership that one of the cars features was removed without you knowing or permission, would you call that honest? That's exactly what Ssmsung did with features on the ES8000 by secretly removing/disabling features via firmware.

Hi, what features did they remove & when did they?
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Originally Posted by OugaBooga View Post

Hi, what features did they remove & when did they?

In the UK the very first ES8K settings posted up online by users included black enhancer and edge enhancer, even shadow detail then no mention of them since after the first FW update around 30th March 2012
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

Just to clarify on taxes, Amazon currently charges sales tax in a number of large U.S. states, including California, Texas, New York, Washington and Pennsylvania. Those states typically have a tax rate of 8% (very broadly, on average, the rates range from about 5-10% depending on locality, but most people pay around 8%.)

About 1/3 of U.S. citizens live in those 5 states alone and if you include the other smaller states that Amazon also charges sales tax, about 1/3 of Americans pay taxes of approximately that much on Amazon purchases.

Sorry to go off topic, but I felt it was relevant to mention this. And, of course, those taxes are on top of the prices listed online at Amazon.

Move to Canada & find out what we pay & then you'll feel lucky with what you're charged in the USA.
Most of the time i see products on sale amazon.com that are 40% cheaper then amazon.ca PLUS we pay 13% tax.
USA ppl are so lucky when it comes to pricing & taxes.
with what i pay for a 55" in canada i should be a proud 60-65" owner in the USA, look it up if you think it's all Bull.
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Originally Posted by arenaman View Post

In the UK the very first ES8K settings posted up online by users included black enhancer and edge enhancer, even shadow detail then no mention of them since after the first FW update around 30th March 2012

Yes. Same here. Early owners have confirmed that both edge enhancer and shadow detail were removed with the first major firmware update. However, the US did not have black enhancer removed like the UK versions.
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Originally Posted by OugaBooga View Post

Move to Canada & find out what we pay & then you'll feel lucky with what you're charged in the USA.
Most of the time i see products on sale amazon.com that are 40% cheaper then amazon.ca PLUS we pay 13% tax.
USA ppl are so lucky when it comes to pricing & taxes.
with what i pay for a 55" in canada i should be a proud 60-65" owner in the USA, look it up if you think it's all Bull.

I think you're still cheaper than what we pay though, what's the 55" F8000 price? We pay the equivalent of $3850 (canadian and US as the difference is negligible) and don't even get the same features.
Edited by arenaman - 3/26/13 at 4:34pm
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