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post #211 of 3645
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

Great find, a LED F8500 and PDP F8500..nice.

Lol! I just noticed that.. Here's another one that just came in. Looks like March is the month

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/tv/samsung-f8500-led-tv-will-hit-the-uk-in-march-1129205
post #212 of 3645
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Originally Posted by moonhawk View Post

The F8500 sounds like a typo, and they meant the F8000. Or am I missing something? It sounds like the same set to me.

I thought so too, but they mention the F8500, F8000, and F7000 LED all in on breath here. Hexus.net

"Along with the F7000 and F8000, the F8500 is also among Samsung's first line of Smart TVs equipped with a quad-core processor-making it even easier for consumers to toggle between apps, online services and on-air TV."

This is all information released at the 2013 Samsung European Forum, so maybe it's a EU-only model?

They also go on to say "Pricing is subject to individual retailers." Not sure if I like this or not.
post #213 of 3645
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Originally Posted by tbris84 View Post

I thought so too, but they mention the F8500, F8000, and F7000 LED all in on breath here. Hexus.net

"Along with the F7000 and F8000, the F8500 is also among Samsung's first line of Smart TVs equipped with a quad-core processor-making it even easier for consumers to toggle between apps, online services and on-air TV."

This is all information released at the 2013 Samsung European Forum, so maybe it's a EU-only model?

They also go on to say "Pricing is subject to individual retailers." Not sure if I like this or not.

Sounds to me like EU only.
post #214 of 3645
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Originally Posted by tbris84 View Post

I thought so too, but they mention the F8500, F8000, and F7000 LED all in on breath here. Hexus.net

"Along with the F7000 and F8000, the F8500 is also among Samsung's first line of Smart TVs equipped with a quad-core processor-making it even easier for consumers to toggle between apps, online services and on-air TV."

This is all information released at the 2013 Samsung European Forum, so maybe it's a EU-only model?

They also go on to say "Pricing is subject to individual retailers." Not sure if I like this or not.

Great link! I like that they mention the new models will have the NFC pairing. I thought from all the news that Samsung may have left this out and only LG, Sony and Panasonics will have it. So does this mean that the folks in the UK will see these in stores before us? Hmm! They always get the best of everything in the UK lol!

I'm not liking the whole pricing info though. This means that all stores will price them very high at first. I bet anything that the F8000 in a 46" will cost $3K or just under that when it comes out. I also bet that these ES8000 model prices will become higher and higher soon as they start to get low on inventory. That's usually what they do since they aren't desperate to sell them since they only have a handful left.
post #215 of 3645
That Hexus.net link has good info too, it's copied word for word from Samsung's press release. http://www.samsungeuforum.com/Press/PressList.aspx

I'm not disappointed if the F8500(LED) is EU only, the only thing different between it and the F8000 seems to be the "premium Magnum design" that I'm sure is a substantial price hike just for a different chassis.
post #216 of 3645
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Originally Posted by tbris84 View Post

That Hexus.net link has good info too, it's copied word for word from Samsung's press release. http://www.samsungeuforum.com/Press/PressList.aspx

I'm not disappointed if the F8500(LED) is EU only, the only thing different between it and the F8000 seems to be the "premium Magnum design" that I'm sure is a substantial price hike just for a different chassis.

I am loving this stand.. Here's a small pic of it in light.

http://www.elektronika.lt/produktai/elektronika/38290/parodoje-euroforum-2013-samsung-pristate-naujausius-produktus/
post #217 of 3645
I'm so glad new stuff is starting to come in

This just came in..

http://vr-zone.com/articles/samsung-unveils-new-smart-tv-line-up/18878.html
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I wish someone would make one of these sets without all the stupid hand waving, talk-to-me, "smart TV" crap.

Come right down to it, they can leave off the crappy sounding speakers, and my DVR has three tuners built in, so they can leave that out as well.

And, of course, I just get all warm and fuzzy thinking about who and what is on he other end of that GD camera.

I guess I just want a big-ass old monitor with the best PQ they can come up with.

Is that asking too much? wink.gifbiggrin.gif
post #220 of 3645
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Originally Posted by moonhawk View Post

I wish someone would make one of these sets without all the stupid hand waving, talk-to-me, "smart TV" crap.

Come right down to it, they can leave off the crappy sounding speakers, and my DVR has three tuners built in, so they can leave that out as well.

And, of course, I just get all warm and fuzzy thinking about who and what is on he other end of that GD camera.

I guess I just want a big-ass old monitor with the best PQ they can come up with.

Is that asking too much? wink.gifbiggrin.gif

What you are describing is what Sony makes. No nonsense high end tvs without the bells and whistles.
post #221 of 3645
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

Newest article on the F8500 that was sent to me

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-f8500-led-smart-tv-announced

Talk amongst yourselves.

I'll give you a topic.

Trustedreviews are neither trusted, nor reviews.

Discuss.
post #222 of 3645
So it looks like Samsung has changed the design for the LED in the UK. The prices look pretty high for just a 46". I will try and get in touch with my contact at corporate in New Jersey to see if this is going to be the design in the US as well. I personally like this stand better then the other one. But, this is from seeing it in a pic, I would have to see in person first, so that can change.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1360049547
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post #224 of 3645
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

So it looks like Samsung has changed the design for the LED in the UK. The prices look pretty high for just a 46". I will try and get in touch with my contact at corporate in New Jersey to see if this is going to be the design in the US as well. I personally like this stand better then the other one. But, this is from seeing it in a pic, I would have to see in person first, so that can change.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1360049547

Jeez, 3800 EU = 5100 US. No thanks.

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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

What you are describing is what Sony makes. No nonsense high end tvs without the bells and whistles.

He is definitely describing a Sony, funny thing is the no-nonsense Sony is the same price as the all-the-bells-and-whistles Samsung, only with worse 3D and inferior PQ.
post #225 of 3645
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Originally Posted by moonhawk View Post

I wish someone would make one of these sets without all the stupid hand waving, talk-to-me, "smart TV" crap.

Come right down to it, they can leave off the crappy sounding speakers, and my DVR has three tuners built in, so they can leave that out as well.

And, of course, I just get all warm and fuzzy thinking about who and what is on he other end of that GD camera.

I guess I just want a big-ass old monitor with the best PQ they can come up with.

Is that asking too much? wink.gifbiggrin.gif

The Sharp Elite is a no non-sense TV with great PQ but you will spend more for it than the top Samsung with all the non-sense
post #226 of 3645
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Originally Posted by tbris84 View Post

Jeez, 3800 EU = 5100 US. No thanks.
He is definitely describing a Sony, funny thing is the no-nonsense Sony is the same price as the all-the-bells-and-whistles Samsung, only with worse 3D and inferior PQ.

Yes, Im not liking those prices. I'm telling you guys, these F8000, F8500 aren't going to be cheap. Especially not with a quad core processor. This is why if you want something smaller than 65", try the ES8000 before they sell out for good. Just read all the posts on the AVforum in the UK, and the ES8000 here. They look 97% good now where before I would say 90% before this update.
post #227 of 3645
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

Yes, Im not liking those prices. I'm telling you guys, these F8000, F8500 aren't going to be cheap. Especially not with a quad core processor. This is why if you want something smaller than 65", try the ES8000 before they sell out for good. Just read all the posts on the AVforum in the UK, and the ES8000 here. They look 97% good now where before I would say 90% before this update.

Or try the F8500 plasma. If they've really improved the PQ as much as they say it should be an incredible set. To be honest, I'm not sure what I'm going to try first. I'll probably get an F8500 Plasma, if it doesn't buzz it is definitely my winner considering it has all the options including the Evo Kit slot. If it buzzes, I'll probably try a 55" F6800 since the F6800 is basically the F7100 with a lower CMR, still 240hz panel though, but not a nice looking stand. And if that disappoints I'll probably get an F7500.
post #228 of 3645
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Originally Posted by tbris84 View Post

Or try the F8500 plasma. If they've really improved the PQ as much as they say it should be an incredible set. To be honest, I'm not sure what I'm going to try first. I'll probably get an F8500 Plasma, if it doesn't buzz it is definitely my winner considering it has all the options including the Evo Kit slot. If it buzzes, I'll probably try a 55" F6800 since the F6800 is basically the F7100 with a lower CMR, still 240hz panel though, but not a nice looking stand. And if that disappoints I'll probably get an F7500.

I read some where that the F7500 is going to have that Rose gold trim. That's what the 75" ES9000 has. I was shocked to read that, but don't know how true that is though.

The other thing I'm thinking Samsung is going to do, is jack up the price of the set even more Because people won't need to buy the Evo kit for it. So basically whatever the kit will cost, plan on that amount being tacked on the new models that have that option.

Tnris84, I'm not trying to talk you out of anything, you know that. I just know people are on budgets here and would hate to see them wait until its too late, and not be able to get the TV they want all because of this new pricing scheme they have now.
post #229 of 3645
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

I read some where that the F7500 is going to have that Rose gold trim. That's what the 75" ES9000 has. I was shocked to read that, but don't know how true that is though.

The other thing I'm thinking Samsung is going to do, is jack up the price of the set even more Because people won't need to buy the Evo kit for it. So basically whatever the kit will cost, plan on that amount being tacked on the new models that have that option.

Tnris84, I'm not trying to talk you out of anything, you know that. I just know people are on budgets here and would hate to see them wait until its too late, and not be able to get the TV they want all because of this new pricing scheme they have now.

I hope the F7500 doesn't have that Rose Gold color scheme, I am not a fan. Well the reason I want to try out the F8500 Plasma first is because it has all the stuff I'd like and it'll be more affordable than the LED's. The F6800 is next in line, because it's the most affordable 240hz panel, but it doesn't have the quad-core or the Evo Kit slot. And if all else fails, the F7500 should cover all my bases, just hurts my wallet more than the rest.
post #230 of 3645
The new Panasonic 65ZT60 is already being ore-ordered for $3850. That means the Samsung 65F8500 will be close to that and the 65F8000 could be another $500-$1000, maybe





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Edited by JimShaw - 2/5/13 at 7:54am
post #231 of 3645
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

The new Panasonic 65ZT60 is already being ore-ordered for $3850. That means the Samsung 65F8500 will be close to that and the 65F8000 could be another $500-$1000, maybe





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$3,800 isn't bad for a 65" Panny. Especially for the higher end ZT60. That means the VT60 will be even less.. That's actually a really decent price. And that's full retail which means once it hits Amazon, it MAY be cheaper. The 65" Samsung F8000 at $4,500 is a lot though.
post #232 of 3645
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Originally Posted by Anthony5362 View Post

$3,800 isn't bad for a 65" Panny. Especially for the higher end ZT60. That means the VT60 will be even less.. That's actually a really decent price. And that's full retail which means once it hits Amazon, it MAY be cheaper. The 65" Samsung F8000 at $4,500 is a lot though.



Here's hoping it's not that high
post #233 of 3645
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

What you are describing is what Sony makes. No nonsense high end tvs without the bells and whistles.

They look killer, too. I saw one at my dealer's. No SOE either, which I noticed for the first time on a Sammy.

Too bad they don't make them bigger than 65", I'd be all over it. I have a 67" Sammy DLP, and I'm looking for a little bigger.
post #234 of 3645
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The Sharp Elite is a no non-sense TV with great PQ but you will spend more for it than the top Samsung with all the non-sense

Sammy 75": $9K.

Sharp 70" elite: $6.5K

I'm holding out till prices come out on the new models, or drop on this year's. I could live with the elite or the Sammy. I like the form factor of the Sammy better, but the price is absurd, and There are issues, apparently, with the later manufactured Elite panels, and I don't think they're making the elites after this year.

75" is about right for my situation, but could maybe live with 70 if everything else suits...


But we shall see. Thanks for your input. smile.gif
post #235 of 3645
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

The new Panasonic 65ZT60 is already being ore-ordered for $3850. That means the Samsung 65F8500 will be close to that and the 65F8000 could be another $500-$1000, maybe





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Don't you mean the F800 might be an extra $500-$1000 over the F8000?

I like the look of that 8500 stand, though. I just hope one of the two with the best picture tech is priced below the 75ES9000.
post #236 of 3645
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Originally Posted by moonhawk View Post

Don't you mean the F800 might be an extra $500-$1000 over the F8000?

I like the look of that 8500 stand, though. I just hope one of the two with the best picture tech is priced below the 75ES9000.

I meant what I said

That means the Samsung 65F8500 will be close to that (the Panasonic in pricing) and the 65F8000 could be another $500-$1000, maybe
post #237 of 3645
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

I meant what I said

That means the Samsung 65F8500 will be close to that (the Panasonic in pricing) and the 65F8000 could be another $500-$1000, maybe

Sorry for the typo in my own post--oops. I meant F8500, not F800.

But I'm still surprised you think the F8000 will cost more than the F8500. Usually the higher model number means higher up the food chain, which means higher price.
post #238 of 3645
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Originally Posted by tbris84 View Post

Jeez, 3800 EU = 5100 US. No thanks.
He is definitely describing a Sony, funny thing is the no-nonsense Sony is the same price as the all-the-bells-and-whistles Samsung, only with worse 3D and inferior PQ.

Not to be an @$$, but if Samsung put their money into correcting horrible quality control and horrendous vertical banding instead of TVs that you talk and waive to, then perhaps there would not be such a high return rate on Samsungs.

3D on the 65HX950 is on par with the 65ES8000 minus noticeable vertical banding. 3D only had less than favorable reviews because at the time of initial reviews, Sony did not have polarizing 3D glasses. Now that they do, all of the flickering and degradation of image when tilting head are gone. In fact, 3D on the 60ES8000 can't even match the 3D on the 65ES8000 due to the Sharp panel in the 60 being inferior to the Samsung panels in the 65 model.

I'd much rather spend $5000 on a Sony 65HX950 then a 65F8000 unless Samsung finally proves they can eliminate noticeable vertical banding. Otherwise, what use is all of those stupid bells and whistles if you are being smacked in the face with 5 wide vertical bands on every panning shot and many solid backgrounds.
post #239 of 3645
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Originally Posted by moonhawk View Post

Sorry for the typo in my own post--oops. I meant F8500, not F800.

But I'm still surprised you think the F8000 will cost more than the F8500. Usually the higher model number means higher up the food chain, which means higher price.

From what I have seen a plasma seem to cost less than an LED. BUT I hope you are correct in that the LED will cost less than the plasma
post #240 of 3645
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

From what I have seen a plasma seem to cost less than an LED. BUT I hope you are correct in that the LED will cost less than the plasma

Based off of 2012 pricing, I expect the 65F8000 to cost a minimum of $4400 and possibly close to $5000 after tax/delivery.

As for the F8500, I would be shocked if it costs anywhere close to the F8000s since plasma is an inexpensive technology to make nowadays compared to LED. I expect pricing to be competitive with the 65ZT60 or else they are shooting themselves in the foot.
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