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Originally Posted by AGuy01 View Post

It's still there, at least for me on this page: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/UN55F8000BFXZA

Weird. It's there for me today - still the old update though, nothing new. Last night when I checked there was nothing there at all.
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Thanks to Sony 1717 for the review. I was waiting for the 65"s to hit and see what the actual users say. Still not sure I want to chance one. Sounds like Amazon was pretty good about the returns on your sets. I bought my last TV from them and it was a great experience. I still have that Samsung UN55B8500 (their last backlit full array set) and it still puts out a great picture with excellent blacks. Not sure I want to go with a edge lit model. I can't watch a plasma set because of issues they cause with my eyes so LED is my only choice. I wish I had jumped on the Sharp Elite when I had the chance. mad.gif
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I had the same fear of the 65" which led me to purchase the 60". As small as this TV is though.. it looks tiny on my entertainment center compared to the 60ST60 it replaced.

I have a question. Do any of you that own the set notice the ripples (for lack of a better word) and raindows on the screen when in direct sunlight? I was shocked when I saw them for the first time as the ST60 handled sunlight like a champ and stayed perfectly clear.

This is why I wish more companies used gorilla glass.
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Originally Posted by motoman View Post

Thanks to Sony 1717 for the review. I was waiting for the 65"s to hit and see what the actual users say. Still not sure I want to chance one. Sounds like Amazon was pretty good about the returns on your sets. I bought my last TV from them and it was a great experience. I still have that Samsung UN55B8500 (their last backlit full array set) and it still puts out a great picture with excellent blacks. Not sure I want to go with a edge lit model. I can't watch a plasma set because of issues they cause with my eyes so LED is my only choice. I wish I had jumped on the Sharp Elite when I had the chance. mad.gif

Would love to hear your opinion on the B8500 vs the F8000 if you end up getting one. I currently have the UN46B8500 and UN55F7100 and to be brutally honest the F7100 has nothing on the B8500 when it comes to picture quality/black levels. I don't think you could ever find as good a picture unless you went with another locally dimming full array LED panel. Unfortunately I may have to return/exchange the F7100 and would like to know if the extra money for the F8000 is worth it.
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Originally Posted by motoman View Post

I wish I had jumped on the Sharp Elite when I had the chance. mad.gif

It's not too late. There are still some floor models out there, but they are quickly drying up. I recently picked up one from Magnolia and absolutely love it. The picture is positively stunning!
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A few days ago there was a 60 and a 70 Elite both (demos) at the Midlothian, VA Magnolia. (Near Richmond, VA.)
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Anyone know why even though my LG Bluray player is putting out 1080p 24p the f8000 says its a 60p signal? When the movie is not playing and I'm in the players menu, it indicates 24p, but when I put the movie back on it says 60p. Can't figure out why.
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Hi just like to know how many sets of the f8000 people have gone through? Either I am the unluckiest guy on the planet or Samsungs building quality is rubbish I had 3 D8000's 3 ES8000's and currently on my 4th F8000 1st one blew up within half an hour 2nd and 3rd major clouding and the 4th the left hand side of the screen is brilliant white and the right hand side is a grey. I feel like giving up with Samsung
post #3279 of 3654
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Originally Posted by KentTheSaint View Post

Hi just like to know how many sets of the f8000 people have gone through? Either I am the unluckiest guy on the planet or Samsungs building quality is rubbish I had 3 D8000's 3 ES8000's and currently on my 4th F8000 1st one blew up within half an hour 2nd and 3rd major clouding and the 4th the left hand side of the screen is brilliant white and the right hand side is a grey. I feel like giving up with Samsung

11th time lucky?
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Originally Posted by KentTheSaint View Post

Hi just like to know how many sets of the f8000 people have gone through? Either I am the unluckiest guy on the planet or Samsungs building quality is rubbish I had 3 D8000's 3 ES8000's and currently on my 4th F8000 1st one blew up within half an hour 2nd and 3rd major clouding and the 4th the left hand side of the screen is brilliant white and the right hand side is a grey. I feel like giving up with Samsung

I feel your pain.
But, there is no brand that delivers perfect QC TV regardless of the price - IMHO.
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Originally Posted by KentTheSaint View Post


Hi just like to know how many sets of the f8000 people have gone through? Either I am the unluckiest guy on the planet or Samsungs building quality is rubbish I had 3 D8000's 3 ES8000's and currently on my 4th F8000 1st one blew up within half an hour 2nd and 3rd major clouding and the 4th the left hand side of the screen is brilliant white and the right hand side is a grey. I feel like giving up with Samsung

It does seem rather mindboggling that Samsung has managed to be so successful with their TVs given everything I've read about their quality control. I can only surmise that the average television buyer is much less picky than your average AVS forum poster.
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Sounds like I got lucky. I picked up my F8000 back in March and it has no issues whatsoever; save for high input lag, of course. I may have to keep my Sasmung 50" LED DLP around for gaming (not that I may have much choice, as no one in the area seems to want to buy it) while using the F8000 for movies and TV.
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Wow, I've had 0 issues with mine too. Some people just get all the luck :X
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

It does seem rather mindboggling that Samsung has managed to be so successful with their TVs given everything I've read about their quality control. I can only surmise that the average television buyer is much less picky than your average AVS forum poster.

displaysearch.com reported that, for 2012, Samsung captured 28% of the market by revenue, LG was second at 15% Sony was third at 8%, and Panasonic fourth at 6%. Over 200 million LCDs were shipped, 87% of the total TVs shipped.
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Most people are getting stuck with defects and don't even realize it. We just know what to look for unfortunately. My last 2 F8000s had dead pixels, and my current one has a pixel that seems like something isn't right but I hate to go through another return because otherwise it looks good.
post #3286 of 3654
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

It does seem rather mindboggling that Samsung has managed to be so successful with their TVs given everything I've read about their quality control. I can only surmise that the average television buyer is much less picky than your average AVS forum poster.

Waaaaaaaaay less picky, informed or passionate about picture quality.
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Originally Posted by dfp View Post

displaysearch.com reported that, for 2012, Samsung captured 28% of the market by revenue, LG was second at 15% Sony was third at 8%, and Panasonic fourth at 6%. Over 200 million LCDs were shipped, 87% of the total TVs shipped.

Not too suprising, Samsung is capable of making some awesome HDTVs- despite their quality control issues.

I also think that past reputation, major marketing and the actual Samsung HDTV on display in millions of homes- generate those sales.
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Eagle ,like I have said before, your love,Mostly hate Relationship with sammy must really ruin your TV enjoyment. Always looking for a fault will usually result in finding something to nit-pick. After my third broken nose I quit looking for trouble, and didn't let perfection be the death knell of excellent. It sounds as though you have a decent set; so forget about perfect pixels and enjoy the excellence you have. As far as warning everyone about Sammy's lack of performance, well most of us are big boys and do our own research. I am not trying to bust your nads over your angst about your set; rather I hope you can get past your disappointment ; Take it in stride and look for that half full glass.
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

my current one has a pixel that seems like something isn't right

Ha, what does that even mean?
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It means that someone at Samsung is not doing there job , O__ wait , no one at Samsung is doing anything !!

If you own an F8000 , then you will know.

Later biggrin.gif

Gary 
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Let me start a new discussion here.

My current 60F8000 and previous 65ES8000 had this same issue if it even is an issue. The outside strip of pixels on both sets seemed less defined or perhaps smaller then the rest of the picture. Is this just a side effect of edge lighting not properly illuminating the outer most pixels. Or is this a manufacturing issue? My old Sony XBR 3 had perfectly defined pixels edge to edge. But both of my Samsung sets seemed to show the same lack of definition alone the edge of the picture. Its weird.
post #3291 of 3654
Hi Philip ,

I can`t speak for the 60" as I have the 46" and the screen uniformity is very good.

Maybe there was just a bad run of 60" panels ??

Best of luck anyway smile.gif

Gary 
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How are you guys liking the black levels on the F8000 in a darkend room? Is it crushing blacks or does it have good detail with solid blacks? I guess I'm just curious how a good movie looks on it. I have a Samsung UN55B8500 which was their last full array back lit set. Has excellent blacks and when you put on a letterboxed movie the bars disappear into the bezel.

Still on the fence about a 65F8000 or a 60" Elite. Elite is more money and I would have to buy online so if I got a bad one I would be at the mercy of Sharp. BB has the 65" on sale at $3397 and at least if I hated it I could return it there. I'm sure BB would match Amazon even after the sale ends + I could get a 29" free TV and give it to my sister. biggrin.gif

Thanks for any comments.

Jim
post #3293 of 3654
Hi Jim ,

The blacks are fine on the 46" .

It is a tuff tv to own , there are a ton of bugs , but if you get a good one and get it calibrated it might be a-ok.

There does not seem to be anything better this year in this price range.

I have not had mine calibrated , I am still on the fence about that , my problems , as well as many others , is with the cable boxes or satellite boxes.
Samsung did not do there home work when it came to matching up would be boxes to the F8000.

If you are just running an antenna , then you might be all set.

I have Comcast , and color and tint stability is a huge issue , that is why I am not sure if ISF would be worth it for me , still digging for info.

It`s a nice looking tv with a ton of features , apps are not that good , but what are you going to do confused.gif

Best of luck smile.gif

Later ,

Gary 
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Originally Posted by motoman View Post

How are you guys liking the black levels on the F8000 in a darkend room? Is it crushing blacks or does it have good detail with solid blacks? I guess I'm just curious how a good movie looks on it. I have a Samsung UN55B8500 which was their last full array back lit set. Has excellent blacks and when you put on a letterboxed movie the bars disappear into the bezel.

Still on the fence about a 65F8000 or a 60" Elite. Elite is more money and I would have to buy online so if I got a bad one I would be at the mercy of Sharp. BB has the 65" on sale at $3397 and at least if I hated it I could return it there. I'm sure BB would match Amazon even after the sale ends + I could get a 29" free TV and give it to my sister. biggrin.gif

Thanks for any comments.

Jim

In a totally dark room there is a halo to either side of bright images on a totally black screen and minor flashlighting in the bottom corners, but smart led and dynamic contrast greatly reduce this (dc does slightly crush blacks, but it is a fair trade off for me. With dimmed lights you don't see the halo.

Cinema black is fantastic for completely blackening the top and bottom bars.
post #3295 of 3654
Mods, ,,,? Is there a way to merge the two Samsung F8000 threads? I realize that may be a difficult task; however, a merged thread organized by date and time may keep the content relevant and in perspective. As it is they have become a real pain to keep abreast of. Thanks. Check6
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Merging the threads should be trivial.
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Great ; I yield to an easy, doable, solution. Are the Mods of the same mind? Check6
post #3298 of 3654
Hey Guys,

We don't merge threads of these sizes for various reason not the least of which is the conversation flow gets completely out of whack. If you all agree to abandon one of them, we can lock it but link to it from the thread that remains as well as redirecting folks from the end of the closed thread to the existing one.

Just let me know via PM.
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Thanks for the response, Mike.
post #3300 of 3654
My 65" just received has none of the picture quality issues either. Great picture except AMP but good on clear.
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