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post #691 of 3645
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Originally Posted by AGUSTINFOREVER View Post

Samsung 2013 HDTV Prices and Features Revealed : http://hdguru.com/samsung-2013-hdtv-prices-and-features-revealed/10054/#more-10054.

"The UNxxF8000 is Samsung’s top-of–the-line Full HD LED LCD series. Additional features over the F7100 series include Built-in pop-up HD Camera, Quad Core Processor, full Motion Control, Speech Recognition, MHL adapter and Smart Evolution upgrade ready. Models include the 46-inch UN46F8000 at $2199.99, 55-inch UN55F8000 at $2699.99, 60-inch UN60F8000 $3199.99 and the 65-inch UN65F8000 $3699.99"

Why is there no mention of the 75 incher?
post #692 of 3645
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Originally Posted by Przemek Antczak View Post

Have a look ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlIkjPSShPU&t=058s
... and listen carefully... she says (01:12) it will come also with the standard remote.

Thanks a ton for that link!

Yup, it does come with the standard remote. I couldn't believe it when I read in a previous page that it wasn't coming with it. That's why we need to be careful about the facts we're posting. If we don't know for sure about something, we should at least state that we aren't sure about it.
post #693 of 3645
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Originally Posted by AGUSTINFOREVER View Post

Samsung 2013 HDTV Prices and Features Revealed : http://hdguru.com/samsung-2013-hdtv-prices-and-features-revealed/10054/#more-10054 ( What about the new crystal black panel, true o false ??? confused.gif See u.

Thanks for the link. Honestly, not that these are cheap by any means, but I think the pricing is reasonable - I wouldn't say they are overpriced. Well, they all are really, but this is right around where I was expecting to see them, so this is good news.

And yeah, I'd love to know what's up with this mysterious " crystal black panel" I hear mentioned.
post #694 of 3645
Hi Guys,

I'm new here, and in the market for a new TV. I'm really interested in the new Samsung F-series, 60 or 65 inch, haven't decided yet. I don't really care about options like quad-core, camera, local dimming etc. All it has to do is have descent picture quality and look good in my house.

Can anybody tell me if the 7100/7500 and 8000 have the same look? By look I mean bezel and the arched stand? CES videos on youtube show only the 8000 with the arched stand. The 7100 and 7500 are displayed with an old school quad stand. So fare so clear, 8000 it is, that's for me the best looking one.

But when I look at press releases at samsung and some reviews on websites, the 7000 and 8000 series are talked about in one breath usually with only a showcase picture of the 8000 series. As I mentioned above, descent picture quality and looks are all I care about, and if the 7000 and 8000 series look exactly the same on the outside, it's gonna cost me less money.

Thank you in advance guys,

Marc
post #695 of 3645
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Thanks for the link. Honestly, not that these are cheap by any means, but I think the pricing is reasonable - I wouldn't say they are overpriced. Well, they all are really, but this is right around where I was expecting to see them, so this is good news.

And yeah, I'd love to know what's up with this mysterious " crystal black panel" I hear mentioned.

JVC was using crystal black panels in their LCDs a couple of years ago.
post #696 of 3645
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Originally Posted by Przemek Antczak View Post

Have a look ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlIkjPSShPU&t=058s
... and listen carefully... she says (01:12) it will come also with the standard remote.

At 3:56 you can see a white stuck/dead pixel....Samsung Quality Control?

Look at the top left, about mid-screen.

Again at 6:37..this time top right, about mid-screen.
post #697 of 3645
O__dang , someone beat me to it !! biggrin.gif

Amazon has the same info and a spec sheet download for the F8000 46" & 55". [ link: > ]

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN46F8000-46-Inch-1080p-240Hz/dp/B00BCGRLU8


I`m really taking a close eye on this one , providing it looks a-ok and keeps cool , this might be my next TV !! biggrin.gif

Not that I haven`t been waiting for one ( in a pigs eye ) :

2011: Sony KDL46XBR929 / sent back due to very poor picture and workmanship.

2012 LG 47LM8600 / sent back for failure to keep cool / seriously , after about 3 hours it would become so warm that the picture would fall out of calibration.
It lost it`s cool and so did I !!

So ___ Come on Samsung , show me what you got , if it`s good . I`m BUYING ! biggrin.gif

Later , smile.gif

Gary 
post #698 of 3645
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Originally Posted by PiratesCove View Post

At 3:56 you can see a white stuck/dead pixel....Samsung Quality Control?

Look at the top left, about mid-screen.

Again at 6:37..this time top right, about mid-screen.

What? Dead pixels on a Samsung... that never happens! eek.gif
post #699 of 3645
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

What? Dead pixels on a Samsung... that never happens! eek.gif

I think is was a piece of dust on his screen
post #700 of 3645
Just saw pricing, delivered and data sheets on the PNxxF8500. F8000 series next!

http://pn64f8500.com/

http://www.pn64f8500.com/uploads/pn64f8500af-spec.pdf





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Edited by JimShaw - 3/2/13 at 8:37am
post #701 of 3645
"she says (01:12) it will come also with the standard remote."

Thanks not what I've been hearing regarding the US models.
post #702 of 3645
So what's the deal with the 75" F8000? Will there, or won't there be one?
post #703 of 3645
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

So what's the deal with the 75" F8000? Will there, or won't there be one?

Don't quote me but I heard some where that it is coming out but not until later in the year.
post #704 of 3645
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Originally Posted by MDoubleA View Post

Hi Guys,

I'm new here, and in the market for a new TV. I'm really interested in the new Samsung F-series, 60 or 65 inch, haven't decided yet. I don't really care about options like quad-core, camera, local dimming etc. All it has to do is have descent picture quality and look good in my house.

Can anybody tell me if the 7100/7500 and 8000 have the same look? By look I mean bezel and the arched stand? CES videos on youtube show only the 8000 with the arched stand. The 7100 and 7500 are displayed with an old school quad stand. So fare so clear, 8000 it is, that's for me the best looking one.

But when I look at press releases at samsung and some reviews on websites, the 7000 and 8000 series are talked about in one breath usually with only a showcase picture of the 8000 series. As I mentioned above, descent picture quality and looks are all I care about, and if the 7000 and 8000 series look exactly the same on the outside, it's gonna cost me less money.

Thank you in advance guys,

Marc

If you want a decent picture, the micro dimming tech will actually help. It will give you better blacks without darkening the whites, and it should help lessen the clouding and flash lighting that edge LEDs are known for.

As for designs:

The F8000: Has a silver half arc stand with a black bezel. In my opinion, this is the best looking TV Samsung has ever made. The ES8000's stand was a bit too much for me. (http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-un60f8000/4505-6482_7-35566921.html)

The F7500: Has a silver rectangle stand with a silver bezel. (http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-un55f7500/4505-6482_7-35566796.html)

The F8500 (LED): Copy's the design from the F8500 plasma. This TV is only available in 46" and 55" and maybe for Europe only. (http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1360049547)
post #705 of 3645
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by eclipsegt View Post

If you want a decent picture, the micro dimming tech will actually help. It will give you better blacks without darkening the whites, and it should help lessen the clouding and flash lighting that edge LEDs are known for.

It might lessen those things, but both are eliminated by high-precision manufacturing as they are basically due to poor tolerances in the build stage.
post #706 of 3645
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

So what's the deal with the 75" F8000? Will there, or won't there be one?
Later on in the year, the current 75" was released late last year, therefor it is on its own schedule compared to all the other sizes/models.
post #707 of 3645
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Originally Posted by eagle_2 View Post

Thanks for the link. Honestly, not that these are cheap by any means, but I think the pricing is reasonable - I wouldn't say they are overpriced. Well, they all are really, but this is right around where I was expecting to see them, so this is good news.

And yeah, I'd love to know what's up with this mysterious " crystal black panel" I hear mentioned.

So it seems that both Robert from VE and Gary Merson are equally impressed with the new Samsungs. They both feel significant improvements have been made across the Samsung line.
post #708 of 3645
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Later on in the year, the current 75" was released late last year, therefor it is on its own schedule compared to all the other sizes/models.

That's the TV I was I waiting for!! I don't think I can wait until the end of the year
post #709 of 3645
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Originally Posted by Johninperth View Post

That's the TV I was I waiting for!! I don't think I can wait until the end of the year

I'm in the exact same boat as you. I desperately need a new TV. I came very close to pulling the trigger on the 75ES9000, but once the F8000's were announced, I decided to wait and see how the new sets panned out. I didn't realize I'd have to wait 6-7 months for the 75" version. Now I'm in a real pickle and, quite frankly, I don't know what to do. It's not as if my choices of sets in this size are plentiful.
post #710 of 3645
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

I'm in the exact same boat as you. I desperately need a new TV. I came very close to pulling the trigger on the 75ES9000, but once the F8000's were announced, I decided to wait and see how the new sets panned out. I didn't realize I'd have to wait 6-7 months for the 75" version. Now I'm in a real pickle and, quite frankly, I don't know what to do. It's not as if my choices of sets in this size are plentiful.
The 75ES9000 was my comparison, I guess now I will have to wait or buy the 9 series
post #711 of 3645
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Originally Posted by gweempose View Post

I'm in the exact same boat as you. I desperately need a new TV. I came very close to pulling the trigger on the 75ES9000, but once the F8000's were announced, I decided to wait and see how the new sets panned out. I didn't realize I'd have to wait 6-7 months for the 75" version. Now I'm in a real pickle and, quite frankly, I don't know what to do. It's not as if my choices of sets in this size are plentiful.

I heard more like June, not the end of the year. FWIW
post #712 of 3645
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Originally Posted by cmay91472 View Post

What you are seeing is the liquidation of remaining ES8000 stock to make room for the F8000s. There will probably be enough ES8000s available even after the F8000s arrive as Samsung was cranking these out of their Tijauna plant until just recently.

Unlike Sony which required authorized vendors to send unsold inventory back prior to a new model (HX850s had to be sent back a couple weeks ago), Samsung does not do this so I can with 99% confidence say you will still be able to get an ES8000 in April if you don't see enough of an upgrade to warrant the higher price tag on the F8000, especially on Amazon or one of its 3rd party vendors.

Thanks Cmay so much for this info. The deals on these ES8000 sets seem so good I just had an itchy trigger finger. I'll wait for the F8000's to hit and will decide then.
post #713 of 3645
According to the HDGuru link provided earlier,

"Models include the 46-inch UN46F8000 at $2199.99"

Yet current Amazon price:

Samsung UN46F8000 46-Inch 1080p 240Hz 3D Ultra Slim Smart LED HDTV
$2,449.00
post #714 of 3645
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Originally Posted by Gary Merson View Post

"she says (01:12) it will come also with the standard remote."

Thanks not what I've been hearing regarding the US models.

It would be a very poor decision for them if they did not include both remotes. Most people were not particularly happy with last year's touch remote. If they did not include a standard remote, it could very well be a deal-breaker for many. What good is a nice tv if the remote is unusable? And not everybody has a Harmony remote. I relied completely on the standard remote last year. If they don't include a standard remote, then that makes it easy for me - I'll just look at other brands.

Panasonic made the mistake of including only a touch remote with last years' blu-ray player (320 model), and most reviews recommended getting the 220 instead because it was almost the same player, but came with a normal remote. Most review sites recommended avoiding the 320 specifically because of the horrid touch remote. I found it unusable myself.

At least Panasonic allowed me to purchase a standard remote for $10.
post #715 of 3645
So by the pictures, it looks like the 7500 may not have a swivel stand this year? Last year it did, but the 8000 didn't This years' 7500 doesn't seem to be able to swivel, but it's hard to tell.
post #716 of 3645
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Originally Posted by rogo View Post

It might lessen those things, but both are eliminated by high-precision manufacturing as they are basically due to poor tolerances in the build stage.

So very true. Samsung has a very spotty reputation for panel uniformity. I will be shocked if these panels this year aren't plagued with clouding, flashlighting, and banding, just like last year, and the year before. I'd love to be proved wrong.
post #717 of 3645
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Originally Posted by moonhawk View Post

I heard more like June, not the end of the year. FWIW

Oh, I hope so... I'll be moving into my new place in May or June and really want a big screen in there right away. Am hoping the 75F8000 is the one.
post #718 of 3645
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Originally Posted by JaremyP View Post

Oh, I hope so... I'll be moving into my new place in May or June and really want a big screen in there right away. Am hoping the 75F8000 is the one.

Well, there's no knowing for sure until they're actually available. I'm OK with waiting it out--I've done some major upgrades already this year and I spend a lot less time in front of the tube once the weather gets warm. Definitely want a new larger set in time for football season, though.... cool.gif

You should contact Robert at Value Electronics, though. He's the one I got my info from, and you can pre-order if you like. Be prepared for major sticker shock, though.... eek.gif
post #719 of 3645
Well, I stopped into Magnolia in BB and I overheard a sales rep saying that they getting the new models in about 2 weeks! If that is the case, this is going to be nice to see these TVs and hope they live up to the hype. I got permission from the lady to go up 60inches, so I will be looking at an August time frame for purchase! Would like to do the 65 incher, but I just don't have the wall space. Currently have a 55D8000 hanging on the wall.
post #720 of 3645
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Originally Posted by Ken Ross View Post

So it seems that both Robert from VE and Gary Merson are equally impressed with the new Samsungs. They both feel significant improvements have been made across the Samsung line.
How would anyone know, when none have been released or tested ? Prototypes are none production models and have no relevance on what a consumer will receive. If these models where being made at this moment they would be released for sale, not stored in a warehouse waiting to be sold.

-- Anyone can speculate all day, in the end it is just speculation.
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