Samsung F8000 -- 2013 Flagship Models - Page 27

The $3099 is MSRP though. Does anyone know if Samsung does it's pricing like Sony?

Actually the MSRP for the 55" is $2700, so this is a major rip off. Also, yes Samsung does their pricing like Sony. I think LG is the only company that doesn't do this type of pricing...yet.

Hopefully, now that the 55" is out, we can get some better pictures and a review. Has anyone seen the F8000 in a store yet?

I was hoping the MSRP would be $2700 with a street price between $2400 and $2500. Looks like Amazon might have a $3100 MSRP with a $2700 sale price. Hopefully they will be getting them in stock soon so we can find out.

$4700? lol. The UN75F6400 is MSRP'd at 5999.99. Good luck.

How about the F8000? Shouldn't that be in about the same time?

re: "I think everyone knows Sharp has the price and a nice unit in the 80" and 90" models, no one can touch them at this point."

I'm a newbie, but when I saw the 80" Sharp, it looked super soft compared to the 75" Samsung, and the blacks weren't nearly as deep. Was it just the content they happened to be playing? Maybe I didn't see a good representation of the TV? I immediately ruled it out because comparing it to the 75" Samsung was like comparing VHS to blu-ray. ?

Euro 55f8000 review

http://www.whathifi.com/review/ue55f8000

UN55F80000 now available at amazon from Beach Camera.

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-UN55F8000-55-Inch-1080p-240Hz/dp/B00BCGRLUI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1362579701&sr=8-1&keywords=f8000



I'm still waiting for the UN65F8000 to replace my UN65ES8000. Anyone have a new update on expected release day?

Sounds promising, but...,

The issues they bring up with the stand and its flimsiness could be a problem for anyone not mounting to their wall.

They say black levels are better than a 2012 HX850, but at the cost of detail. Guess that means edge lit still has a little way to go to catch up to the extinct full array with local dimming. Seems odd they are comparing a 2013 flagship model to a 2012 mid tier tv. If they were comparing to a 55HX950, their comparison would be a little more exciting.

Looking forward to seeing actual user reviews.

May 2013

Also noticed they said they preferred natural mode which is curious....

I also was a little confused over their "toned down more subdued" image out of the box comment. Did they mean the settings are different, or the tv is not capable of the same "pop" that the ES8000 is known for?

I knew this goofy new stand was going to be a problem the moment I first saw images of it. The stand is as wide as the panel itself, stretching end-to-end, which means you need an AV rack as wide as the panel itself. With any "normal" tv stand, this wouldn't be necessary because the stand is much narrower than the panel itself, so you could have a somewhat shorter AV rack and have the screen overlap, or "hang over", the edges of your rack, and the stans would still be perfectly stable. Instead, this silly design means you need the AV rack to be as long as the panel itself, or you're going to run into the issue that the review talked about.

For me, if I do end up with this panel, I will only be considering the 46" - it's all I have room for, and all I can afford as well. So my AV rack will be just long enough to handle it (hopefully). But since you can't swivel the stand (which is a poor decision, given the very limited viewing angles), I won't even be able to turn the tv stand and angle it a bit if I'm watching it from a different spot in my room, since then the stand would hang over the edge of my AV rack like in the pictures. My rack should be just long enough to hold the stand, with very little room to spare on each side. No room for angling the stand.

This is truly an idiotic design for a tv stand. With Samsung, it's always about aesthetics first, then functionality afterwards. Sure it looks fantastic - but no swivel, and if that wasn't bad enough, the tv stand is so bloody long that it will barely fit your AV rack, if at all. What were they thinking? This stand may very well cause some people to back away form this set - it just won't fit everybody's furniture, and not everybody will be willing to buy an all new AV rack just to accommodate this silly stand.

And they said even if the stand does fit your table, it is still a less rigid design than last year. I really do wonder what the people at Samsung are smoking when they design these things. Everybody at Samsung thought this wouldn't be a problem? Not one person realized that this stand doesn't function so well as a stand? And it's not like you want to take a chance with an expensive set like this. The stand is important. Not everybody wall-mounts. In fact most people probably don't.

/rant
Edited by eagle_2 - 3/6/13 at 7:02am

Imagine how big of an AV table/rack you will need for the 65 if not hanging on the wall.

Exactly! What were they thinking?

I noticed they mention they do get the standard remote included with the touch remote. Hopefully that remains the same in the US. I can't imagine why it wouldn't be the same here.

Looks like they include the same crappy 3D glasses from last year. Shame. Those glasses are horrible and the 2011 glasses are far better. I was really expecting them to redesign the 3D glasses for this year, but I guess they went the lazy route and did nothing. And last year we got 4 pairs - this year we get 2. Nice touch, Samsung.

Good news about the sound though. I have a really nice AV receiver setup, but living in an apartment building, I can't always crank up the receiver late at night, and generally after 9:00pm I need to rely on the tv speakers. Glad to hear they are improved. Also, not everything need to be in surround - the Simpsons or Seinfeld is just as funny in stereo.

Also glad to hear the black levels are strong - "inky deep" according to the review. And natural accurate color is great to hear. The ES7500 had a very red push to it, and the color was too saturated in my opinion. It was just too much. I like natural skin tones.

Very interesting that they likes Natural mode for blu-rays. Makes me wonder about this review somewhat. Natural mode last year was anything but natural. It was downright horrendous, and did dreadful things to color and shadow detail. And many picture options became unavailable in Natural mode. Could Natural mode really be that much better this year? I'm very skeptical.

Overall, it was interesting to read, but that review seems very amateurish to me. I will certainly be waiting to hear more reviews form the more well-know places. And of course personal reviews.
Edited by eagle_2 - 3/6/13 at 7:31am

Thanks

www.beachcamera.com lists the box contents as:

UN55F8000 55-Inch Ultra Slim 3D Smart LED HDTV
Smart Touch Remote
4 Pairs of 3D Active Glasses
Documentation

no mention of a standard remote. I submitted a question asking about it on the Q&A tab.

It looks like Anthony was commenting in the review on Amazon. It looks like he may be banned here and that is why he hasn't been posting.

Not to mention the 75...which I'm looking at.

Fortunately, I build my own stands.

Yes, he is banned

Sounds quite promising but I'll wait for some user reviews and a proper review with calibration results before deciding if I'll take the plunge.

Has anyone had any experiences or heard anything good or bad about greystone appliance? they have the 55F8000 listed for $2400. I think I would pull the trigger at that price if it was direct from amazon.

The F7000 ( F7500 in the USA ) is out in Spain : http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=es&sl=es&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.samsung.com%2Fes%2Fconsumer%2Fav%2Ftelevisions%2Fsmart-tv%2FUE40F7000SLXXC-features%3Fsubsubtype%3Dled , There's a new function named " Intelligent Viewing " which the experts would recommend to turn it off ( that's for sure ). See U.

Well let's be fair, they said the Sony has a 'more subtle touch' at digging out shadow detail. Doesn't sound like a big difference at all. It's clear they thought the black levels were definitely better than the Sony.

Also, many thought the 850 was at least 90% of the 950, so it's not all that odd of a comparison.

They also never called the stand flimsy. They simply said because it is so wide, it doesn't fit their shelves. Obviously no matter how good a TV stand is, if it extends off the edges of the shelf you're mounting it on, it will be unstable. That has zero to do with the quality of the stand, simply its width.

There's no getting around this was a very favorable review.

I read it as the display does not have the unnatural poppiness that some Sammys do. This one is apparently more a 'reference' type picture which is one that some might not like since it doesn't have the 'in your face' look that some like.

In the end though, the out-of-box settings are pretty meaningless. The only thing that counts is how well can the display be calibrated.

In thinking about this, I'd love to see these displays compared to the Sharp Elite as a reference point.
Edited by Ken Ross - 3/6/13 at 10:10am

A wise approach, but the best approach is to see one yourself and not rely on other opinions.

I agree with you 100%. Making the stand as wide as the TV is just plain stupid. That being said, I have an 82" Haven on order from Standout Designs. I specifically went with this model so that I'll be covered in the future for any panel up to 90". It's also one of the few super wide stands available that can accommodate a really large center channel speaker.

That might help too

Thanks for the cite, nice find remush. Although a very positive review, a substantial number of Samsung ex owners are very wary of any early reports and await more info before buying the cool aid. Me, I am holding back until I can "taste" the QC in the product.