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post #61 of 133
Don't know how the HVAC room is laid out, but could the hall wall, house the av rack?

Recessed the AT screen, and I shortened the circulation path to the bedroom.

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post #62 of 133
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Just ordered a ton of rigid foam and plywood, some drywall (for layering in between the joists) and a new compressor and nailer. I hope to have all the walls covered and the floors finished by mid March, and then start on some of the framing before my egress window gets put in. A bit excited like a kid in a candy store.
post #63 of 133
Awesome! I always get a little giddy when I order new stuff for the theater. I think it might be the smoke coming off of my credit card, though smile.gif

Of course, we'll need to see pictures when all that stuff actually arrives!
post #64 of 133
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GG is ordered and on the way... wink.gif
post #65 of 133
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Some new fun toys arrived today. Taught my girls how nailers and compressors work. They're not as thrilled as I am.



post #66 of 133
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For my surrounds, I plan to use in-wall speakers. Do I need to build any type of box for these? One will be against the foundation wall, the other in a double wall. That's the one I'm primarily worried about.
post #67 of 133
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A lot of plywood and insulation to move. I'm definitely paying someone to move the drywall to the basement when that gets delivered...



post #68 of 133
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A lot of plywood and insulation to move. I'm definitely paying someone to move the drywall to the basement when that gets delivered...




I hear ya, I plan to hire my drywall out due in large part to the fact that I do not have to carry all it down to my basement.
post #69 of 133
Hiring somebody to move the drywall and plywood is ok.. However, you must move all the sand yourself, or be forever marked as "the guy who didn't carry his own sand" on AVS.

Therapy can get expensive.

Tim
post #70 of 133
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As long as I can build some slide for tossing it down the stairs, I won't mind the sand so much.
post #71 of 133
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As long as I can build some slide for tossing it down the stairs

That would involve far too much pre-planning ... having someone tell you the easy way to do after you're finished is the AVS way !!

Cheers,
post #72 of 133
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A productive Saturday. Moved the rest of the junk out of our basement into the garage, Got all the walls covered with rigid foam insulation, foamed all the seams, and even managed to get my cable/sat dish crap on a demarc panel. Spent too much time running to big box stores, but it needed to be done. Tomorrow I plan on getting the subfloor started, and hopefully 50% or more completed.






And my demarc panel:

AppleMark
post #73 of 133
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Completed all my wall insulation, and started on my subfloor. Didn't get 50% done like I planned, but made good progress. My carpenter is coming on Tuesday to build the new stairs, so I need to clean up so he can work. Luckily the entire basement is cleared out, except for tools and subfloor materials. Now I just need to hear back from the two plumbers for their bids on my bathroom rough in.
post #74 of 133
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Got my GG delivered, and put some more subfloor down.

AppleMark

The subfloor going in where I'll have a bedroom and a craft room:



And looking into the HT room towards the screen:

post #75 of 133
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Oh, and I don't remember who recommended a rotary hammer for drilling tapcon holes, but it was the best advice I've been given so far. It went through my concrete like butter.
post #76 of 133
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Look Ma! No stairs...

AppleMark

Wish he would hurry up, I've got work to do!
post #77 of 133
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Someone asked how I did my insulation. For most of the walls, I used 2" XPS, glued up with PL300 foamboard adhesive. This stuff cures pretty quickly, but I still had to lean some stuff against the panels so that it got good adhesion. Once it was solid, i used Great Foam door and window sealer to fill the gaps and voids. Then housewrap tape to seal the edges. For some of the walls I used 1" to minimize the loss of floor space. For my subfloor, I'm using 1" XPS, taped and sealed the same way. Then I'm putting 1/2" ply in two layers. The first layer is tapcon'd through to the concrete, the second layer just secured with drywall screws. I left about 1/8" gaps between the plywood for expansion. The XPS on the walls was square edged, but the 1" panels were T&G. That made it a bit easier, though I still had to tape the seams (OCD runs strong in me. The fact that some of my panels are "upside-down" is really annoying).

When the weather warms up a bit, I'm going to pull out my fiberglass bats in the rim joists and put in spray foam that I got from Sprayfoamdirect.com. Originally I had planned to used XPS cut for each joist, held in by Great Stuff. But that was going to be a huge amount of work, and not as good from what I could see as using the spray foam kit.
post #78 of 133
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Had another idea while I should be ostensibly working; I was planning on a single row of seats (Fusion Jives in an |0|00|0| layout). Un-reclined they take up about 40", reclined, about 71". Four seats is fine for our family, but I was exploring the idea of putting in a small counter and barstool behind the seats. This would move the front seats up about 40" or so, but there'd still be 5 feet from screen wall to the front edge of the unreclined seats. Is that going to be too tight? I don't want to stick 10 gallons of crap in a 5 gallon sack... When I get home I'll try to come up with a drawing to better illustrate it.

Has anyone tried to squeeze a counter in such a short theater? Obviously this would have an effect on the size of the screen I'd select since the prime seats would be about 9' from the screen (screen to eye).
Edited by greedo - 3/8/13 at 11:26am
post #79 of 133

What's your screen size and how far would your line of site be from the screen to your eyes?  Oh, and is it 2.35 or 16:9?

 

Btw, I'm going with Jives and a bar behind them in my space, too!

post #80 of 133
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I plan on a 2.35 screen, and was previously planning on at least a 96" wide screen.
post #81 of 133

I was just looking through the last page of your build here and noticed you've posted a lot unanswered.  Just wanted to say nice job.  I like seeing the progress shots.

 

Your screen wall is 14' wide, if I'm reading your diagram properly.  I think a 96" wide 2.35 might be too small.  If you keep it at that size, though, I would say your seating would be ok pushed forward.  If you bumped your screen to 110", you'd be pushing it.  Generally, your screen width to distance from screen ratio should be about 1.25, and never less than 1.  I have mine at 1.2, and many people say "it's almost too big" when they see it at first.  Of course, like most big TV's, you get used to it after awhile and it's perfect. YMMV, but the 1.25 is a good target to aim for.

 

I have low ceilings, like you, and a 2.35 screen made more sense because it's short/wide, unlike a 16:9 screen with is tall/narrow.  If it were up to me, I'd keep the jive seats a little off the back wall (a foot or so) and make your screen bigger.  That's just my opinion. :)

 

Keep up the good work!

post #82 of 133
That foam and plywood looks all too familiar to me. I used the powder actuated nails and had ok results. I still need to reanchor several places before my final flooring goes in for the main part of my basement. I'm kicking myself for missing a couple of spots in the theater that are squeaking and creaking now after the carpet has gone in. I tried the tapcons but could not get them to hold and the drilling took forever. So the rotary hammer drill is the way to go? If there was an easy way to pull the carpet without messing it up I would go back and try to hit my trouble spots in the theater again because they are going to send me to the cuckoo house. rolleyes.gif
post #83 of 133
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Steve- Thanks for the encouragement. I'm sure I'll get more feedback as my build progresses.

Vanice - How many nails did you drive per sheet? I'm using about 12 tapcons per sheet of plywood. Luckily I'm only using them for the first layer, with drywall screws after that. I may add more just to avoid squeaks!
post #84 of 133
I put in 9-12 depending on how well they went in. The 5/8 ply that I used wasn't the flattest material. Wish I had used 3/4 T&G OSB.
post #85 of 133
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I used BCX 1/2" ply (really 15/32) using 1/4" 2 3/4 tapcons countersunk into the ply. So far they seem to be holding well.
post #86 of 133
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Been making good progress, though finishing a whole basement just takes so much time. I've got all the walls insulated, the first layer of subfloor down, and almost done with the second layer. The stairs have been rebuilt, and I need to downselect a plumber, as well as bring in another HVAC guy for a quote. I want to get the flooring done by the end of the week, and then starting next Monday I have a week's vacation to use for the basement. That week I'll try to insulate the rim joists, take delivery of lumber for framing up the walls, and hopefully get a good start on some of the walls. I have my egress window being cut the first week in April, and I'd love to have the walls framed and the bathroom roughed in by Tax Day. We'll see.
post #87 of 133
Greedo,

I feel your pain about finishing the entire basement, it is A LOT of work but I keep telling myself that it will all be worth it in the end... Looks great so far!
post #88 of 133
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Yeah, I'm pleasantly surprised how good it looks. A lot of the build that I was going to delay for financial reasons is getting harder to put off since things are going well. I just need to remember to work slowly as I improve my skills so that I don't create irreparable mistakes.
post #89 of 133
Keep it up! We have the same size HT. Have you decided on HVAC yet? Based on everything here I'm going with 8" return and two 6" supplies.
post #90 of 133
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Yeah, I just hammered out the last details with my HVAC guy. He's going to put in two 7" supplies in the front and a single return at the back. I'm not really happy, as putting in a zoned system just isn't affordable. I'd need to have too much work done, plus upgrade my furnace/AC. He talked about putting in a Mits mini split unit, but I didn't like how it was going to look, and the cost was way past what I can afford. I'm going to have him replace our main thermostat with a Nest, and use my iPad (that'll have iRule as well) to control the temps. The rest of the house will just have to deal with the side effects. The HVAC cost for the basement will be around $2K which is more than I expected, but that was because I was just uneducated.
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