Originally Posted by Ken Ross
OK, I was still trying to get through some other posts.
I was surprised to see the F8500 at the Westbury, L.I. Magnolia (in case anyone in the area would like to see it) since they told me it wasn't on display.
My initial impression was that it was close to LED brightness, but, looking at the picture, it was obviously in a pretty gross Dynamic mode. I asked for the remote and was grudgingly given one to hold briefly
. I had it long enough to take it out of Dyanamic and put it in Movie mode.
Dynamic was interesting in that whites had a reddish cast to them which I generally don't see in a mode like that with other panels. This panel was not skewed to the blue as almost all others are. Interestingly it was butt up against a VT50 that was also hideously adjusted. In fact I didn't think it was possible to get a VT50 to look that bad. Congrats to Magnolia!
But it was interesting to see both sets in their ugly mode. The whites were still brighter and the overall luminance quite a bit higher on the 8500. LED brightness? Not quite, but surely brighter than any other plasma I've ever seen or owned. Nice.
Movie mode was an entirely different animal. Just beautiful and with no calibration! Life of Pi was playing and the colors in Movie mode were truly inviting as was the contrast. Shadow detail was really very nice and noise level was non-existent. Keep in mind all Movie settings were at default and I'm sure the picture could still be improved significantly from where this unit was.
So the other thing that struck me was detail. This plasma seemed to have more apparent detail than I've seen on any plasma. I say apparent detail because I'm not sure that there actually was more detail, but to the eye it sure looked that way. The nice thing about this was I saw no artifacts like over-sharpening or ringing that are a giveaway for a manufacturer hyping sharpness. One of the things I love about LED is the precise image (for lack of a better description). The 8500 seemed to have much of that 'precision'.
BTW, I have no idea if the Black Optimizer was engaged and I doubt I would have seen the difference in the Magnolia setting. As most of you know, Magnolia lighting is subdued, but not dark. I also saw no brightness popping or fluctuations of any kind.
So this set is definitely in the running for me and I look forward to seeing one of these puppies calibrated.