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post #211 of 1868
My guess is Samsung will be carrying over the F8500 platform into next year, and maybe Panasonic will with the ZT60 as it's a new panel....as I don't believe they would create a new panel for just one year would they?
post #212 of 1868
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Originally Posted by RSVCHAD View Post

F8500-series will start showing up at dealers in mid to late March in the US. Sizes are confirmed at 51", 60" and 64". The design goal for this series is to be the best plasma available going beyond KURO and anything Pana is offering or will be offering. Samsung states this series will offer thier best picture quality until they debut thier OLED sets. Intoductory pricing is:
PN51F8500: $2,199
PN60F8500: $3,199
PN64F8400: $3,699

Beyond Kuro? Ok, let's hope they're not just talking about waving to your TV smile.gif

But if that is true, JUST TAKE MY MONEY NOW! I'll be set til OLED becomes affordable.

PS: I definitely prefer the charcoal bezel over the silver on the LEDs. I guess they don't want to call attention to how not black black is on the LEDs.
Edited by barth2k - 2/10/13 at 8:41pm
post #213 of 1868
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Originally Posted by barth2k View Post

Beyond Kuro? Ok, let's hope they're not just talking about waving to your TV smile.gif

But if that is true, JUST TAKE MY MONEY NOW! I'll be set til OLED becomes affordable.

PS: I definitely prefer the charcoal bezel over the silver on the LEDs. I guess they don't want to call attention to how not black black is on the LEDs.

Big fan of the aesthetic design on the F8500.
post #214 of 1868
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

Big fan of the aesthetic design on the F8500.

Me too... assuming that the stand is removable.
post #215 of 1868
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Originally Posted by hogues View Post

Me too... assuming that the stand is removable.

It better be, just bought the Sanus XF228 wall mount for it lol.. going to use it with my present Sammy 46" LN850..
post #216 of 1868
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Originally Posted by hogues View Post

Me too... assuming that the stand is removable.

They had some "super contrast panel" hung up at CES without the stand, though I suppose it could maybe be a special model for display.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH0kAr-XNkE
post #217 of 1868
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Originally Posted by Pinger View Post

It better be, just bought the Sanus XF228 wall mount for it lol.. going to use it with my present Sammy 46" LN850..

I'm sure it will be. There appears to be a seam where the TV and stand separate.
post #218 of 1868
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Originally Posted by RSVCHAD View Post

F8500-series will start showing up at dealers in mid to late March in the US. Sizes are confirmed at 51", 60" and 64". The design goal for this series is to be the best plasma available going beyond KURO and anything Pana is offering or will be offering. Samsung states this series will offer thier best picture quality until they debut thier OLED sets. Intoductory pricing is:
PN51F8500: $2,199
PN60F8500: $3,199
PN64F8400: $3,699
Can you provide a link to your source? I can't find information on official prices anywhere.
post #219 of 1868
Link: http://pn64f8500.com/
It's from Value Electronics
post #220 of 1868
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Originally Posted by AVKIK View Post

I was wondering the same thing about the buzzing noise in the video. I thought maybe it was the light bulb on the screen buzzing.


i heard the buzzing noise to same noise as my 64" plasma made
post #221 of 1868
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Originally Posted by agkss View Post

Link: http://pn64f8500.com/
It's from Value Electronics
Thanks, that may be an early adopter price point though. Now to decide if it's worth spending the money on the 60 f8500 or get the E7000 for less than half that.
post #222 of 1868
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Originally Posted by Speakerphile View Post

I'm sure it will be. There appears to be a seam where the TV and stand separate.

That's what I thought when I looked at the pictures, too.
post #223 of 1868
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Originally Posted by thebigkahuna1 View Post

Thanks, that may be an early adopter price point though. Now to decide if it's worth spending the money on the 60 f8500 or get the E7000 for less than half that.

Yes, those prices were posted before Samsung even set pricing. I would actually bet that they[Samsung] were less than thrilled that VE posted them. They'll be close, but you should not EXPECT them to be set in stone.
post #224 of 1868
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Originally Posted by thebigkahuna1 View Post

Thanks, that may be an early adopter price point though. Now to decide if it's worth spending the money on the 60 f8500 or get the E7000 for less than half that.

In all likelyhood, the F8500 is going to blow away the E7000.
post #225 of 1868
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Originally Posted by agkss View Post

Link: http://pn64f8500.com/
It's from Value Electronics

There are no prices on that site that I can see.
post #226 of 1868
^There were...someone must've voiced their discontent. wink.gif
post #227 of 1868
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Originally Posted by vinnie97 View Post

^There were...someone must've voiced their discontent. wink.gif

There absolutely were prices listed there. Interesting...
post #228 of 1868
Also interesting is the fact that Panasonic has lowered the MSRP of the S and ST60 prior to Samsung releasing any pricing. As of now the pre-order price on Value Electronics is HIGHER then MSRP listed at panasonic.com . Hopefully this indicates downward pricing pressure on all models or maybe Panasonic has sized up their competition and this F8500 is a Monster?
post #229 of 1868
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Originally Posted by keyser View Post

Extremely bright plasma... with frame interpolation(wonder if it works for 3D). Isn't that begging for IR and burn-in problems?

That's what I'm thinking
post #230 of 1868
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Originally Posted by HarddTimezz View Post

Also interesting is the fact that Panasonic has lowered the MSRP of the S and ST60 prior to Samsung releasing any pricing. As of now the pre-order price on Value Electronics is HIGHER then MSRP listed at panasonic.com . Hopefully this indicates downward pricing pressure on all models or maybe Panasonic has sized up their competition and this F8500 is a Monster?

Hmm interesting. I think panasonic mite lower their pricing in general except maybe for the ZT. At $3200 msrp for a 60" this is steep and they might drop it. You can get a 60 st60 for half the price! Will it be worth the difference? If I had to guess this f8500 will be priced right in between the ZT and and the VT (but closer to the ZT) and will probably perform in that range as well...only time will tell!

If these prices are true it is out of my range anyways but the big question is did samsung fix their Fbr and buzz issues?
post #231 of 1868
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Originally Posted by RSVCHAD View Post

F8500-series will start showing up at dealers in mid to late March in the US. Sizes are confirmed at 51", 60" and 64". The design goal for this series is to be the best plasma available going beyond KURO and anything Pana is offering or will be offering. Samsung states this series will offer thier best picture quality until they debut thier OLED sets. Intoductory pricing is:
PN51F8500: $2,199
PN60F8500: $3,199
PN64F8400: $3,699

Why do they refuse to make a 55''!!!!
post #232 of 1868
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Originally Posted by wattheF View Post

Why do they refuse to make a 55''!!!!

So when they mean going beyond Kuro i hope it's black levels and ansi contrast. Have you guys seen the staggering contrast ratio of 17000:1 from HDTV Test. They recalibrated their colormeter and retested using a Ansi pattern. I looked and can't find where they stated this i think it was in a forum.
post #233 of 1868
post #234 of 1868
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Originally Posted by hungro View Post

So when they mean going beyond Kuro i hope it's black levels and ansi contrast. Have you guys seen the staggering contrast ratio of 17000:1 from HDTV Test. They recalibrated their colormeter and retested using a Ansi pattern. I looked and can't find where they stated this i think it was in a forum.

What is so staggering? A max white level of 50 ftL and a min black level of 0.003 ftL gives you 50/0.003 or a contrast ratio of 16,666.

Larry
post #235 of 1868
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Originally Posted by HarddTimezz View Post

I agree with everything you're saying. The most intriguing aspect will be the brightness level supposedly equal to LED's. I agree this new super contrast panel will give us an image we never expected to see on a plasma with "local dimming technology and new cell structure" this is very exciting. Hell, this F8500 may take the crown with lowest black level and finally put that nail into Panasonic's coffin. "IF" Samsung can beat Panasonic at their own game and produce a plasma equal in black level and 2x's as bright this will be a game changer. Can't wait.

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Originally Posted by gmarceau View Post

Anyone have thoughts on the potential mll of this set? I'm going to guess .002 ft/L, since the 60E8000 was hitting near .004ft/L.

I'm guessing at the shootout that this set will lose to the ZT60 in blacks and possibly color, but the F8500 will put out a compelling image that test equipment won't be able to register. It's being said that they've basically eliminated stair stepping this year and have increased resolution.

What is stair stepping?
post #236 of 1868
this thing sounds like a Fbr nightmare to me!
post #237 of 1868
yeah,right, the new Samsung will still have a black level double that of the current VT50 in THX mode but lower than the VT50 in Pro Mode.thanks 10.gif
post #238 of 1868
In the day and age where sometimes hype seems to be taken as reality is very disconcerting at times. I am sure the F8500 is going to be a great screen. I would go for one myself if i was in the market for a new bigger display .Which i am not but the 65" would be the one i would go for. But these (real world) ANSI numbers of that UK 500A are hugely impressive. Lets be honest here, there has been no explanation as of yet as to how this new Samsung is going to be as bright as an LCD. If it can get past about 54FTL, which is (roughly) the max output the Kuro's could go to if pushed before starting to clip, which looks bright to most even in a very sunny room. If the F8500 can then hats off. Especially if this goes past these sort of numbers in the normal picture presets. Except dynamic of course lol. Light output, black level etc etc... I'm sure it's going to be a stunning plasma regardless. smile.gif
post #239 of 1868
It could be a classical case of " because we say it is" "therefore it is"tongue.gif
post #240 of 1868
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Originally Posted by losemetss View Post

yeah,right, the new Samsung will still have a black level double that of the current VT50 in THX mode but lower than the VT50 in Pro Mode.thanks 10.gif

And you know this how????
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