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post #10501 of 12380
Hi, I just got my ST60 and tried to plug in my USB hard drive to watch some movies but the TV doesn't recognize it. When I go to media player it says "no media detected". It does work on my Samsung ES8000, so maybe I need to buy a different kind of external hard drive?
post #10502 of 12380
^^^
I replied on the thread you started.
post #10503 of 12380
You can see why everyone is getting out of the Plasma business

Joe or Jill Public is not gonna know about or want to go through the break in period that most of us here have gone through. And they won't know how to deal with any issues of IR, they will just complain so that must be frustrating for the manufacturers

It's almost like they need to put a sign on plasmas "for advanced intelligent patient users only"

I know my mum and dad who are getting on a bit wouldn't want to deal with these issues, that's why i made sure they didn't get a plasma.
post #10504 of 12380
Some of us just watch the set like it was intended and have no issues, its not really different than owning any other tv. The reasons for plasmas demise have little to do with IR and break-in. Eye searing brigtness sells, superior motion, color, contrast ratio and viewing angles do not.
Edited by chunon - 12/18/13 at 5:12am
post #10505 of 12380
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Originally Posted by k3nnis View Post

Hi All,

Anyone know if Panasonic will fix this lip sync issue? I may be the only one, but isn't it crazy that we as customers need to adjust the audio delay in our media players/amps to match the TV's audio sync?? Why doesn't it happen on other TV's?

This is the only reason putting me off in purchasing the ST60/VT60.

Thanks,
K.

It can't be fixed. It's impossible. Stay with the tv and enjoy it or buy a new tv with better lag. I know it's annoying but you have to live with it.
post #10506 of 12380
Many lip sync issues can be remedied in the AVR. Most of them I hear about are when viewing cable, which leads me to believe it's not entirely the ST60's fault. Try different connections because most of us have no problems.
post #10507 of 12380
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Originally Posted by bradymartin View Post

im interested in the 55st60 but amazon no longer sells it. any other go to places to buy it? im looking for sale prices

If you've got a Discover card the best deal you'll probably find is Abt, 10% off through ShopDiscover and another 5% off for online purchases if you signed up for it.
post #10508 of 12380
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Originally Posted by k3nnis View Post

Hi All,

Anyone know if Panasonic will fix this lip sync issue? I may be the only one, but isn't it crazy that we as customers need to adjust the audio delay in our media players/amps to match the TV's audio sync?? Why doesn't it happen on other TV's?

This is the only reason putting me off in purchasing the ST60/VT60.

Thanks,
K.

All HDTVs have video lag due to the TV's internal video processing, some are just worse than others. If you have a receiver with audio delay it's no big deal, adjust it once and that's all it takes.
post #10509 of 12380
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Some of us just watch the set like it was intended and have no issues, its not really different than owning any other tv. The reasons for plasmas demise have little to do with IR and break-in. Eye searing brigtness sells, superior motion, color, contrast ratio and viewing angles do not.



+1
post #10510 of 12380
I'd just like to say I've had my 55ST60 for two weeks now and am quite content with it. I got a great price from Panasonic Direct, although the freight company kept if for a week before bringing it to my house. I didn't use any break in slides. I just let it run for 15-18 hours a day on any station without opaque logos. I have no IR or lip sync issues. I used the CNET custom settings and find the picture a little soft but otherwise visually pleasing. The biggest issue I had was tailoring my Harmony remote to the new TV. Some of the discreet input commands didn't work but I eventually sorted that out. As for reliability...I still have my original 42" Panny plasma from 2002 looking as good as it ever did. Considering I paid $3500 for it back then I would say my new TV is a great product at any price!
post #10511 of 12380
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Originally Posted by Digitude View Post

I'd just like to say I've had my 55ST60 for two weeks now and am quite content with it. I got a great price from Panasonic Direct, although the freight company kept if for a week before bringing it to my house. I didn't use any break in slides. I just let it run for 15-18 hours a day on any station without opaque logos. I have no IR or lip sync issues. I used the CNET custom settings and find the picture a little soft but otherwise visually pleasing. The biggest issue I had was tailoring my Harmony remote to the new TV. Some of the discreet input commands didn't work but I eventually sorted that out. As for reliability...I still have my original 42" Panny plasma from 2002 looking as good as it ever did. Considering I paid $3500 for it back then I would say my new TV is a great product at any price!

How did you sort out the issues with the Harmony remote?

I have an 880 and I'm trying to balance how much of the HDMI-CEC functions to use. I'm wondering if I can cut a few of the macro commands out. But unfortunately the Apple TV and the xbox360 don't support this feature, so it may be pointless.

It was nice being able to control the bluray player and volume on receiver without programming the tv remote. However I could not figure out how to change inputs on the receiver (denon 2112) since I'm only using 1 input on the tv.


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post #10512 of 12380
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Some of us just watch the set like it was intended and have no issues, its not really different than owning any other tv. The reasons for plasmas demise have little to do with IR and break-in. Eye searing brigtness sells, superior motion, color, contrast ratio and viewing angles do not.
Not to mention, wife's tails. Word of mouth had a lot to do with mis-information. Lets face it, for the cost, plasma is normally better.
post #10513 of 12380
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Not to mention, wife's tails. Word of mouth had a lot to do with mis-information. Lets face it, for the cost, plasma is normally better.

You are correct sir !
post #10514 of 12380
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Originally Posted by TheDaveAbides View Post

However I could not figure out how to change inputs on the receiver (denon 2112) since I'm only using 1 input on the tv.


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I'm using my Yamaha receiver to switch everything too. When you go through the Harmony setup wizard for activities it asks you which receiver input you want for that particular activity (watch cable TV, watch DVD). Did you not set up any activities?

My problem was getting the Harmony to switch TV inputs from HDMI1 back to the internal tuner (ant/cable) which I needed to do in order to get the correct audio output and transport controls (FF, REW, pause etc) while watching Netflix streaming media.
post #10515 of 12380
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

Some of us just watch the set like it was intended and have no issues, its not really different than owning any other tv. The reasons for plasmas demise have little to do with IR and break-in. Eye searing brigtness sells, superior motion, color, contrast ratio and viewing angles do not.

Nail hits head! I couldn't have put it any better myself
post #10516 of 12380
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Originally Posted by Digitude View Post

I'm using my Yamaha receiver to switch everything too. When you go through the Harmony setup wizard for activities it asks you which receiver input you want for that particular activity (watch cable TV, watch DVD). Did you not set up any activities?

My problem was getting the Harmony to switch TV inputs from HDMI1 back to the internal tuner (ant/cable) which I needed to do in order to get the correct audio output and transport controls (FF, REW, pause etc) while watching Netflix streaming media.

I've been using the 880 for years, and it still works fine after I reset the activities. I was thinking since some devices will talk to each other via hdmi-cec that I could edit some of the macro steps to be more simple. While it kinda worked well with just bluray, the Harmony never knew which devices were on or off, if I started with the panny remote. So switching inputs on the receiver have mixed results, sometimes turning off TV.
post #10517 of 12380
Does anybody else just sit in awe of this TV's performance for the price? I 've had mine for about 3 weeks now. I've just got it broken in and haven't really messed with settings yet and the picture is absolutely fantastic!

I keep reading all the reviews about this tv..glad to be able to get one before they stopped selling them.cool.gifcool.gif
post #10518 of 12380
I mounted my 60" up late Monday night, had a chance to watch the intro to Star Trek "Into Darkness" and the intro to Quantum of Solace (which is one of my favorite intro scenes of all time), and the picture is absolutely unreal. I was out of town yesterday so I've only watched for less than a half hour, but what an upgrade from my 40" Sony XBR4. I've been watching these for about 8 months and finally pulled the trigger so I didn't miss out on this panel. Haven't started messing with settings too much, although I will probably lower the contrast a bit, but I can't wait to see what this TV is capable of. I'm hopefully going to get a professional calibration down the road as well. I'm not running slides and am going to not try to "baby" too much like some do. It is my main TV, and the only other TV I have is in the bedroom, so I don't have much of a choice.

Side note, can anyone link to the page that has info about the backlighting strips people were using with the set they were getting off Amazon for cheap? I also remember someone here saying they masked the silver bezel with something black to cut down on the ugly look this TV's bezel has. What was it that was used to put around the silver strip?

Anyone who is reading this thread (as I have been for 8 months) and on the fence about this TV should just go ahead and take the plunge. I'm glad I did, and would have regretted had I not been able to get one. I ordered mine from Best Buy, at a retail location, easy as pie.

I know there has been some talk about this as well, but I asked about a VT60, and told them the price I'd seen on Paul's TV and they would have matched it no questions asked. Never hurts to put it out there.
post #10519 of 12380
Thanks guys. I may need to look into a better tv for less audio lag.... I've got a old 42" Samsung plasma which as far as I can tell has no audio lag and no adjustment needed on my AVR.
post #10520 of 12380
I recently bought the TC-P60ST60 - I am impressed with this TV. I placed it right next to my Pioneer PRO-101FD and it certainly stood proudly. Do I prefer the picture from the Kuro? Sure, but I still enjoy the picture from my ST60 - and it is 10" larger! The Kuro cost me $2500 for 50" and this 60" ST60 was almost half of that (Panasonic EPP Black Friday deal). Now I can finally sell my Sony KD-34XS955 SFP tube (if anyone still wants such a beast - it has a wonderful picture). This ST60 is such a good value that I even bought a colorimeter and will be doing my own calibration (though I must admit D-Nice did a terrific job with my Pioneer). I almost passed on buying this set because I wanted the 65" VT60 but I will say I'm glad I bit the bullet so I can hang on until OLED becomes a reality for the everyday enthusiast. tongue.gif
post #10521 of 12380
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Originally Posted by k3nnis View Post

Thanks guys. I may need to look into a better tv for less audio lag.... I've got a old 42" Samsung plasma which as far as I can tell has no audio lag and no adjustment needed on my AVR.

Why would you look into another TV if you have an AVR that could adjust to compensate for the audio lag? Like I said in my previous post (I am a new owner, so keep that in mind), the ST60 will be long gone in the near future, so why not bite the bullet now, try and compensate via your AVR, and if it isn't to your liking, return it. If you wait to long, you're going to miss out on one bad a$$ TV IMHO.
post #10522 of 12380
Hi,

I have multiple sources, e.g. apple tv 3, cable box, xbox, wdtv, I heard that all of these will vary in audio lag issues, so does this mean I need to adjust each time I use a different source?

Thanks,
K.
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Originally Posted by grizimes View Post

Why would you look into another TV if you have an AVR that could adjust to compensate for the audio lag? Like I said in my previous post (I am a new owner, so keep that in mind), the ST60 will be long gone in the near future, so why not bite the bullet now, try and compensate via your AVR, and if it isn't to your liking, return it. If you wait to long, you're going to miss out on one bad a$$ TV IMHO.
post #10523 of 12380
I tried watching a little 3D last night on the ST60 and paranorman had some of the worst crosstalk I have ever seen. I have the most recent update on the set, but do the packed in glasses affect the quality of 3D? Would buying a different set of glasses make a difference?
post #10524 of 12380
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Originally Posted by k3nnis View Post

Hi,

I have multiple sources, e.g. apple tv 3, cable box, xbox, wdtv, I heard that all of these will vary in audio lag issues, so does this mean I need to adjust each time I use a different source?

Thanks,
K.

I'm currently running a DirecTV, Blu-Ray, and Xbox 360 all through my AVR, and have yet to notice audio lag. My brother has a 55" St60 and I definitely noticed on his set, but have yet to notice on mine. I'm also not going to go looking for it either.
post #10525 of 12380
Thanks for the info. So looks like a luck of the draw???
post #10526 of 12380
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Originally Posted by k3nnis View Post

Hi,

I have multiple sources, e.g. apple tv 3, cable box, xbox, wdtv, I heard that all of these will vary in audio lag issues, so does this mean I need to adjust each time I use a different source?

If you run them through your receiver on unique inputs, your receiver should be able to save unique audio delay settings per input. You can try to set the delay with one and copy the setting over to the other inputs, and adjust as necessary on the other inputs.
post #10527 of 12380
ok thanks. How do they expect a normal TV purchaser to do all this smile.gif
post #10528 of 12380
Lip sync issues can happen with any type of display, but at least we're able to adjust it in our AVR's.
post #10529 of 12380
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Originally Posted by k3nnis View Post

Hi,

I have multiple sources, e.g. apple tv 3, cable box, xbox, wdtv, I heard that all of these will vary in audio lag issues, so does this mean I need to adjust each time I use a different source?

Thanks,
K.

Unless you've got issues with your sources they should all be the same if connected through the receiver. The receivers I've used don't have audio lag adjust by input, it's global.

I have a DirecTV receiver, 3 DVD players, a DVD recorder and a Blu-ray player connected to my TV, they all sync the same.
post #10530 of 12380
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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post


It's not necessarily common, but excessive buzzing is the warning sign and/or end result of various component failures inside the TV. The most common cause is a bad/vibrating coil on one of the various PCB boards inside the TV or a failing power supply, but sometimes it's a failing panel (which is rare though). Usually a simple board replacement or power supply replacement fixes the problem. My friend's first 60ST30 buzzed when it was delivered so we put it right back in the box and sent it back with the driver. His replacement the following weekend was silent at one foot away and remained silent for several months, then one day it suddenly developed a loud buzz that could be heard from 10 feet away, coming from the board in the upper left corner of the TV. The Panny technician did a little troubleshooting then replaced the board and the TV has been silent ever since (about two years now).

If he tries to tell you that it's normal to hear a buzz beyond a few feet then he's full of it - insist they fix it or replace it.

 

No tech yet, though support seemed concerned. Just wanted to update that the buzz gets MUCH louder when the panel has warmed up. I'll post more info as I receive it, and what the results of my service call are.
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