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post #10831 of 12346
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Originally Posted by fester99 View Post

it will output 5.1 for internal sources, it will not pass through 5.1 from external sources it down converts it to 2.0, so the converter you found should work with the passthrough audio but only from external sources.

Thanks - when you say external sources what exactly do you mean? Down converting to 2 channel is fine for my needs since I'm piping it to an older stereo system.

My TV is connected to Satellite box, Asus media player, blu ray and wii U, which I'm assuming are all "external"? Also assuming the media player & DLNA player, youtube etc. would all be internal?

Ended up ordering this converter, hopefully will work but if it doesn't I'm only out $20 & change..
post #10832 of 12346
That should work fine, as long as you set your TV to NOT output Dolby 5.1. Otherwise you wont get anything from your internal sources if they are DD, from what I am reading in the description.
post #10833 of 12346
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Originally Posted by Glenstr View Post

Thanks - when you say external sources what exactly do you mean? Down converting to 2 channel is fine for my needs since I'm piping it to an older stereo system.

My TV is connected to Satellite box, Asus media player, blu ray and wii U, which I'm assuming are all "external"? Also assuming the media player & DLNA player, youtube etc. would all be internal?

Ended up ordering this converter, hopefully will work but if it doesn't I'm only out $20 & change..

I dunno Glen, I've had surround sound since the early 90's, I couldn't imagine not being surrounded by speakers with DD sound, especially for sporting events. You lose so much audio clarity & quality with those cheap D&A converters instead of digitally processing the available audio from all your quality "external" sources. To me, you do your Panny an injustice but I'm sure you see & hear things differently so I hope you can get to where you want to go with what you've got. Good luck! smile.gif
post #10834 of 12346
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Originally Posted by Robin Bombard View Post

I dunno Glen, I've had surround sound since the early 90's, I couldn't imagine not being surrounded by speakers with DD sound, especially for sporting events. You lose so much audio clarity & quality with those cheap D&A converters instead of digitally processing the available audio from all your quality "external" sources. To me, you do your Panny an injustice but I'm sure you see & hear things differently so I hope you can get to where you want to go with what you've got. Good luck! smile.gif

I don't have an AV receiver, just my 70's vintage stereo which is basically a 500 watt Harmon Kardon amp, Pioneer Spec-1 pre amp, and Pioneer HPM 150 speakers. I've thought about adding a AV receiver to the mix if I can integrate it into my existing gear, in fact just posted about this over in the audio forum. Not big into sporting events, mostly movies so I'm pretty happy with 2 channel output for now. My gear is old but top quality & just spent over $500 rebuilding the amp & giving the preamp a good cleaning, you won't find much cleaner 2 channel sound (or louder) anywhere.

If I can get my sat box, media player and bluray sound piped out the old stereo I'll be a happy camper. Would be nice to get the internal too, was just playing with the built in DLNA and see I can probably eliminate my ASUS O-play if I want to.

I sure liked the video and audio out on my last Panny, did exactly what I wanted it to, even used it to pipe the picture and sound to an old CRT in the guest bedroom close by. Wish the new ones had this..
post #10835 of 12346
What is the best video format? MP4 or?

I have some AVI files that don't play, and there are some many options to convert them to. One is HTML5 MP4?

Which ones would you suggest?

Also, found a strange trick, when trying to view the USB files on the TV, I could only see one, so I created a "movies| folder and moved them in there, now the TV see's all the videos
post #10836 of 12346
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Originally Posted by Glenstr View Post

I don't have an AV receiver, just my 70's vintage stereo which is basically a 500 watt Harmon Kardon amp, Pioneer Spec-1 pre amp, and Pioneer HPM 150 speakers. I've thought about adding a AV receiver to the mix if I can integrate it into my existing gear, in fact just posted about this over in the audio forum. Not big into sporting events, mostly movies so I'm pretty happy with 2 channel output for now. My gear is old but top quality & just spent over $500 rebuilding the amp & giving the preamp a good cleaning, you won't find much cleaner 2 channel sound (or louder) anywhere.

If I can get my sat box, media player and bluray sound piped out the old stereo I'll be a happy camper. Would be nice to get the internal too, was just playing with the built in DLNA and see I can probably eliminate my ASUS O-play if I want to.

I sure liked the video and audio out on my last Panny, did exactly what I wanted it to, even used it to pipe the picture and sound to an old CRT in the guest bedroom close by. Wish the new ones had this..

I'm sure that your Monoprice converter will work out just as fine for your application as my Monoprice splitter has been working out for me. I know what you mean by hanging onto gear that you've grown fond to. I love my Sunfire Theater Grand processor and didn't want to lose it just to have a HDMI processor. cool.gif
post #10837 of 12346
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Originally Posted by cpc View Post

Was there a firmware update to improve the 3D performance? I read earlier that the ST60 3D performance was poor compared to a few others like the ST50 etc.

Supposedly there was a firmware update that improved 3d performance never saw it officially confirmed, watched Prometheus over the weekend no crosstalk or motion issues looked great smile.gif
post #10838 of 12346
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

You can power on and inspect while the unit is still in the lower box. Just watch to make sure it does not topple out. Takes about 10 mins.......
Just to follow up on this -- as promised, inspecting and powering on in the lower box was not a problem. Thanks again for the reality check/comfort.
post #10839 of 12346
Best buy is still showing some ST60 & VT60's online for those interested. I don't know what will happen when you try to check out but it added them to the cart for me.
post #10840 of 12346
Proud owner of a 60 ST60.....Just wanted to share some info on my picture settings. I've had my TV since September. Have LOVED it since day one, but am always trying to get a little better picture. I recently got a new Panasonic 500 Blu-ray player which is also fantastic. In setting that up with my TV, I have found I get the best brightness by setting Gamma on TV (picture setting on Blu-ray player is set to Normal) to 2.0....I did this using Disney WOW disc for Blu-ray players. Checking the Gamma on my set with this disc, I had previously had it set to 2.2. This made the picture way too dark. Went back and checked brightness and contrast to make sure those weren't wrong before I made the Gamma change, using the same WOW disc. My contrast is set to 81. Brightness to 4. Panel brightness is set to MID......By changing gamma to 2.0 I was able to get the picture to look just right...not way too dark.

Just wanted to let everyone know....maybe this will help someone in their set up as well....I still can't believe how fantastic the picture is on this set!!!!!
post #10841 of 12346
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Originally Posted by abinitio View Post

I've had the opposite experience with Paul's. My original ST60 came, I powered it up, and there was a huge grey/black bar down one side of the screen. I called Paul's customer service and they literally ordered me a new one on the spot. The shipping company came and picked the old one when they brought me a new one.

I generally found the service representatives, who are real people that work at Paul's, to be knowledgeable and friendly. I periodically check the ST60 prices, and I've yet to see a price that beats Paul's sale back in October. So in short, my experience was great.

My experience with Paul's was also excellent. I guess any retailer can screw up once-in-a-while.

It does seem very shady to sell an "open-box" item with that much use and with screen burn-in.

I purchased my 65" ST60 in October from Paul's. The price that I got was very good and I had never purchased anything from them before.

The sales rep that I worked with was very efficient and friendly. The TV arrived one day before the scheduled delivery date and in perfect condition.

Maybe I just got lucky.

Sorry about the bad experience. Hopefully, Paul's will make it right!
post #10842 of 12346
Has anyone reported the Airplay-like feature of the YouTube app on the ST60? Maybe I didn't pay attention to the product details but I noticed when I was watching a video in the YouTube app on my iPad, there was a new icon which allowed me to stream to the ST60. It flawlessly switched from the bluray to the YouTube app and changesd the input on receiver (hdmi-cec!), and switched back when I was done, all without using my Apple TV. Very cool. I assume it will work on other modern platforms as well.
post #10843 of 12346

New 50ST60 owner here that has been lurking for awhile and reading as much of this thread(and a few others) as I can, both before I bought the TV and after. Overall I'm totally in love with this TV, but there is one strange thing that just recently started to happen and I wonder if anyone else has had an experience like this with their ST60. About 2 weeks ago(I've had the TV since late November, an October build, and it's at about 200 hours now), I noticed sounds of the TV clicking on and off in the morning. It's a bedroom set so I hear this quite easily. It actually woke me up the first time it happened. The TV didn't appear to be actually turning on, but clearly a relay was being switched as there was the tell tale power on "clicking" noise and the Blu-Ray player was being triggered to power up. I've spoken to Panasonic and it may come down to having a repair tech  inspect the set for any possible parts failure or internal damage. I hate to have my first here be one like this but I know there's a vast pool of knowledge here and thought I'd throw this out there to see if I'm the only one whose experienced with their ST60. A quick google search showed it's not altogether uncommon with some Panny's, I just haven't seen it mentioned in relation to the ST60. Any thoughts? I'm a little unsure  if I should try and return it to Amazon and find one locally, or have it repaired if it continues. 

 

I should add that I have tried reseting the TV and have still had the issue. I dont have the set connected to a network, just using it for OTA content and Blu-Ray. 


Edited by Racknpinion - 1/2/14 at 11:09am
post #10844 of 12346
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Originally Posted by Racknpinion View Post

New 50ST60 owner here that has been lurking for awhile and reading as much of this thread(and a few others) as I can, both before I bought the TV and after. Overall I'm totally in love with this TV, but there is one strange thing that just recently started to happen and I wonder if anyone else has had an experience like this with their ST60. About 2 weeks ago(I've had the TV since late November, an October build, and it's at about 200 hours now), I noticed sounds of the TV clicking on and off in the morning. It's a bedroom set so I hear this quite easily. It actually woke me up the first time it happened. The TV didn't appear to be actually turning on, but clearly a relay was being switched as there was the tell tale power on "clicking" noise and the Blu-Ray player was being triggered to power up...I dont have the set connected to a network, just using it for OTA content and Blu-Ray.

Never seen that with my 50ST60 or heard about it before now. I did turn off Viera Link and deleted all apps it was possible to delete when I first got the set. It is connected to my wired network. Have you tried unplugging the BD player?
post #10845 of 12346
Hey guys,

Just got my TC-P55ST60 and feeling great about the purchase, especially since they're gone on Amazon.com and abt.com has them at $500 more than I bought mine for.

Had a question on the break-in process. I've been breaking it for 50+ hours now and have been doing all the usual stuff - avoiding black bars, logos, etc. Mostly Blu-Rays and lots of Netflix seasons of things. My question is simple: is 50 hours enough that I can start phasing back in things like local news, sports, etc? In other words, things that have still boxes or logos that would normally threaten burn-in.

As long as I don't watch the news or sports for like 8 hours straight - do you think it's safe to watch live TV stuff that breaks some of the break-in rules.

Let me know! And thanks for the expert help.
post #10846 of 12346
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Have you tried unplugging the BD player?

I have not tried disconnecting the BD player yet but I'm gonna try that this evening. I also have it plugged into a PS Audio PPP AC regenerator and I'm going to try plugging it straight into the wall. My rational behind using my PPP was that my voltage fluctuates a bit between 124 and can reach up to 130 volts in the late evening when the draw on the grid is low. The regenerator keeps the voltage a constant 120 and with only the TV connected to it, it should be able to handle the wattage of the TV without issue. Then again, maybe not? It's rated for 1500 watts and I think the TV draws about 380 watts at maximum. 

post #10847 of 12346
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Originally Posted by Racknpinion View Post

New 50ST60 owner here that has been lurking for awhile and reading as much of this thread(and a few others) as I can, both before I bought the TV and after. Overall I'm totally in love with this TV, but there is one strange thing that just recently started to happen and I wonder if anyone else has had an experience like this with their ST60. About 2 weeks ago(I've had the TV since late November, an October build, and it's at about 200 hours now), I noticed sounds of the TV clicking on and off in the morning. It's a bedroom set so I hear this quite easily. It actually woke me up the first time it happened. The TV didn't appear to be actually turning on, but clearly a relay was being switched as there was the tell tale power on "clicking" noise and the Blu-Ray player was being triggered to power up. I've spoken to Panasonic and it may come down to having a repair tech  inspect the set for any possible parts failure or internal damage. I hate to have my first here be one like this but I know there's a vast pool of knowledge here and thought I'd throw this out there to see if I'm the only one whose experienced with their ST60. A quick google search showed it's not altogether uncommon with some Panny's, I just haven't seen it mentioned in relation to the ST60. Any thoughts? I'm a little unsure  if I should try and return it to Amazon and find one locally, or have it repaired if it continues. 

I should add that I have tried reseting the TV and have still had the issue. I dont have the set connected to a network, just using it for OTA content and Blu-Ray. 

Check and see if you have any timers set somehow. The TV clicks like that a couple of minutes before timers start/end.
post #10848 of 12346
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

Check and see if you have any timers set somehow. The TV clicks like that a couple of minutes before timers start/end.

Oh, good idea! I never knew the set had an On timer.
post #10849 of 12346
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Originally Posted by The Motivation View Post

Are these the settings you're referring to? http://forums.cnet.com/7723-19410_102-590736/panasonic-tc-p55st60-picture-settings/


My ST60 was literally just delivered, I haven`t even taken it out of the box yet. I`m still waiting for my HD Receiver to be delivered and was going to play some NHL on my PS3, but I`m not sure if that`s a bad idea. The only ``plans`` I have to watch it are for the NHL Winter Classic and the World Juniors tomorrow, are those bad ideas too? I haven't gone through all these thread yet to see what's true and what isn't, but I'm seeing a bit of everything. I've seen aging yays and nays, calibration whenever or after a certain amount of hours etc. I'm really not sure about all this as it's my first flat screen. Any advice is appreciated.

I did not get my settings off of the CNET forums, rather a CNET article. Like I've said in my recent posts, panels vary from panel to panel. Most people do not have adverse effects from this set, but you'd be lying if you didn't say some have. Logically, the people who have problems with this panel come to a place like this forum to see if any others have the same issue. With the amount of people who own this set, negative effects (ie. IR, buzzing...) are more apparent. Just enjoy it. Don't leave a channel on for 24 hours obviously, but I decided after I bought this set (and I was a bit worried as it's my first plasma), that I wouldn't BABY it. Enjoy the picture, as you will never again see anything like it at this price range, and if you have issues from the get go, return it.
post #10850 of 12346
I will say this again, but anyone who is on the fence about this set...get one. Period. Take the risk that anyone on these forums talks about (IR, burn-in, etc...), you will not be happier. Now is the time, because if you wait you will miss the boat. I cannot even express how impressed I am with the picture quality. FANTASTIC. UNREAL. I've also got a Darbee in my system and it makes it that much better. Do it while you can....smile.gifeek.gif
post #10851 of 12346
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Originally Posted by flatliner1 View Post

Proud owner of a 60 ST60.....Just wanted to share some info on my picture settings. I've had my TV since September. Have LOVED it since day one, but am always trying to get a little better picture. I recently got a new Panasonic 500 Blu-ray player which is also fantastic. In setting that up with my TV, I have found I get the best brightness by setting Gamma on TV (picture setting on Blu-ray player is set to Normal) to 2.0....I did this using Disney WOW disc for Blu-ray players. Checking the Gamma on my set with this disc, I had previously had it set to 2.2. This made the picture way too dark. Went back and checked brightness and contrast to make sure those weren't wrong before I made the Gamma change, using the same WOW disc. My contrast is set to 81. Brightness to 4. Panel brightness is set to MID......By changing gamma to 2.0 I was able to get the picture to look just right...not way too dark.

Just wanted to let everyone know....maybe this will help someone in their set up as well....I still can't believe how fantastic the picture is on this set!!!!!

Thanks for posting your experience and settings! I too am a relatively new 60ST60 owner, and have not yet been able to get the picture to my preference. With the gamma set at 2.4, which is what I have seen recommended, the picture seems dim and there is little illumination of dark areas, such as a dark gray or black men's suit, or even dark human hair.

Interestingly, as I was fiddling with settings the other day, I did experiment some more with the gamma setting and ended up switching it to 2.2, which IMO helps quite a bit. I never considered going to 2.0, so I will check that out as well.
post #10852 of 12346
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Originally Posted by mr_melvis View Post

Then I had chadb in to do the calibration (this is the second set he has done for us).
Thanks for posting your calibration comments. I've added a link to your post in the flat panel (post number two) lists that are linked in the signature area at the bottom of my post.

If you have further comments to make about your audio or video calibration, it would be great if you could use the edit command to add them to your original post. Enjoy. smile.gif
post #10853 of 12346
How good is this TV in bright rooms? I read Cnet's review and they said it has a screen that minimizes reflections. My living room has a large window above the mantle, facing East, so it lets a good bit of sunlight directly into the house from the early morning until about noon.
post #10854 of 12346

Best Buy does not have these for sale online anymore despite the website showing they have inventory.  If you try and get to the checkout process and choose store pick-up or delivery you will get an error message.  I talked to my local BB store and they said they have been trying to get more of these since November without any luck.  I feel very fortunate to have stumbled upon an open box 60" before they are gone.

post #10855 of 12346

Have you watched much Hockey on this set?  Looking for some input on LED/LCD or Plasma...which way to go.

post #10856 of 12346
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Originally Posted by Hockey577 View Post

Have you watched much Hockey on this set?  Looking for some input on LED/LCD or Plasma...which way to go.

I have an incredibly clear picture with bright white ice and an easily tracked puck using DNice's Custom picture settings. Without those setting which just happen to work great on my plasma, I could never recommend the ST60 with the default picture settings. But a properly calibrated ST60, (or one in the ballpark like mine), recommending this set is a no-brainer.

Besides, LED's give me a fatiguing headache. biggrin.gif
post #10857 of 12346
I think I may have a defective panel on my ST60. While watching several movies this week I noticed a raindow effect on peoples faces with any movement. The scene in Sin city with The deep blacks and the punchy whites every fave seems to have a rainbow gradation that smears as the face turns. And I noticed the same thing in Scott pilgrim and Aliens. I know asked about phosphor trailing, but is this the same thing?
post #10858 of 12346
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Originally Posted by bluesphee View Post

Best Buy does not have these for sale online anymore despite the website showing they have inventory.  If you try and get to the checkout process and choose store pick-up or delivery you will get an error message.  I talked to my local BB store and they said they have been trying to get more of these since November without any luck.  I feel very fortunate to have stumbled upon an open box 60" before they are gone.

here in florida they are still available on BB.COM for store pickup and delivery
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Originally Posted by domingos38 View Post


here in florida they are still available on BB.COM for store pickup and delivery


Not available in Virginia

post #10860 of 12346
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Originally Posted by philz662 View Post


Not available in Virginia

having the same issue trying to find a 50" ST60 in upstate NY. Sears and BB websites saying there are none available for delivery. any ideas on where I could get on online? Thanks
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