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post #11311 of 12338
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Originally Posted by mtrot View Post

No, that's called "line bleed", and apparently all plasma TVs suffer from that.

thanks for a reply, it must be more of a panasonic issue as I have owned several samsung plasmas and never seen it before, i had both a d7000 and d8000 before the st60 only reason i got rid of the d7000 was because when the screen got a really white i started to get a pinkish haze in the back got and the service tech told me the panel was going bad, and it was a known issue after about a year to year and a half of use
post #11312 of 12338
Will it cause any problems with IR, if I set the "Panel Brightness" setting to MID (its on low now) for the duration of the playoffs?
Its kinda bright in the room, and the PQ looks better with the setting on MID, but I dont want to burn it.
post #11313 of 12338
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

Will it cause any problems with IR, if I set the "Panel Brightness" setting to MID (its on low now) for the duration of the playoffs?
Its kinda bright in the room, and the PQ looks better with the setting on MID, but I dont want to burn it.



How many hours are on your panel?
post #11314 of 12338
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

How many hours are on your panel?

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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

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I think your fine to do whatever you want. I have 837 and I've babied mine during the playoffs now I'm full screen contrast up to 82. Maybe zoom your picture at least part of the time.
post #11316 of 12338
Thanks. Im watching it on CTV on C band out of Canada, and they have a really dim logo, compared with my local CBS affiliate, with no scroll on the bottom.
post #11317 of 12338
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

Thanks. Im watching it on CTV on C band out of Canada, and they have a really dim logo, compared with my local CBS affiliate, with no scroll on the bottom.

You guys still have c-band up there? There hasn't been anything on there in the U.S. for years. I miss the PQ of c-band.
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Nice, I wish CBS would do that. I took my time breaking this panel in, I figured what's a few months compared to years down the road. Enjoy the games today smile.gif
post #11319 of 12338
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

You guys still have c-band up there? There hasn't been anything on there in the U.S. for years. I miss the PQ of c-band.

I'm in Arkansas. There are a LOT of sports still on C band, and KU band. The PQ is spectacular.
I only missed one Green Bay Packer game this year, and didnt pay a dime for Sunday Ticket.
post #11320 of 12338
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

I'm in Arkansas. There are a LOT of sports still on C band, and KU band. The PQ is spectacular.
I only missed one Green Bay Packer game this year, and didnt pay a dime for Sunday Ticket.



What do you mean by the different bands?
post #11321 of 12338
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

What do you mean by the different bands?

Satellite bands. C band is 4 GHz (10' dish), KU band is 11 GHZ (3' dish). Its the satellites the networks use to uplink live sports from the stadiums, and lots of network channels also use it to distribute their programming.
The quality of the picture is outstanding, since they arent limited to using only a narrow channel like Over the air, or cable...and are minimally compressed compared to Dish and DIrecTv.
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

Satellite bands. C band is 4 GHz (10' dish), KU band is 11 GHZ (3' dish). Its the satellites the networks use to uplink live sports from the stadiums, and lots of network channels also use it to distribute their programming.
The quality of the picture is outstanding, since they arent limited to using only a narrow channel like Over the air, or cable...and are minimally compressed compared to Dish and DIrecTv.



Ok I gotcha.
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Tried to post to classifieds and couldn't figure it out but I have a 60" st60 with a cracked screen and no picture if anyone is interested in buying PM me with an offer South Bend, IN/Niles, MI area 70 miles east of Chicago
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Originally Posted by stryker6040 View Post

thanks for a reply, it must be more of a panasonic issue as I have owned several samsung plasmas and never seen it before, i had both a d7000 and d8000 before the st60 only reason i got rid of the d7000 was because when the screen got a really white i started to get a pinkish haze in the back got and the service tech told me the panel was going bad, and it was a known issue after about a year to year and a half of use[/quot
I get a bit of pink when I was running the slides when the slides were light gray. That better not mean my panel is bad..its only a month old
post #11325 of 12338
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

Will it cause any problems with IR, if I set the "Panel Brightness" setting to MID (its on low now) for the duration of the playoffs?
Its kinda bright in the room, and the PQ looks better with the setting on MID, but I dont want to burn it.

Panel brightness *should* be on Mid, not Low.
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Originally Posted by Davenlr View Post

I'm in Arkansas. There are a LOT of sports still on C band, and KU band. The PQ is spectacular.
I only missed one Green Bay Packer game this year, and didnt pay a dime for Sunday Ticket.

They don't encrypt channels anymore? Last I knew pretty much everything was encrypted. I should have kept my dish.
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

They don't encrypt channels anymore? Last I knew pretty much everything was encrypted. I should have kept my dish.

These KU channels are free to air digital channels, many of which are in the clear but in some cases you need a HD decoder receiver to get them. I still have an active C-band system which is pretty useless w/o KU. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Robin Bombard View Post

These KU channels are free to air digital channels, many of which are in the clear but in some cases you need a HD decoder receiver to get them. I still have an active C-band system which is pretty useless w/o KU. rolleyes.gif

I never had a KU LNB so when everything was gone from c-band I scrapped the dish.
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

I never had a KU LNB so when everything was gone from c-band I scrapped the dish.

Just last summer I was given a KU LNB and a dual feedhorn but my buried wiring needs to be replaced to support KU and there's no one around anymore that does that type of work. Plus with my Directv, I'm so backed up with stuff to watch that my hard drive is 3/4 full. Like I need another video source. biggrin.gif

But I don't throw anything away so my 12' Paraclyse still remains and the only time I move the dish is during the summer when I need to mow. Maybe once I get my ST60 calibrated, I can lock in some 16 hour days of tv viewing and get caught up. hahahahahaha
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Originally Posted by Robin Bombard View Post

Plus with my Directv, I'm so backed up with stuff to watch that my hard drive is 3/4 full. Like I need another video source.

I hear you on more sources. My DTV internal drive is full, I've got a full 1TB external drive and another 1TB external drive that's over half full.
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anyone know what picture setting will allow you to adjust 3d settings? 2d->3d depth? I'm on Custom. Most of the settings are greyed out. I'm wondering if the 3D settings can be tweaked to make them look more 3D, or pop out more from the screen. I know the ST60 is not the greatest for 3D, but just wondering who has made theirs look better.
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Nice, I wish CBS would do that. I took my time breaking this panel in, I figured what's a few months compared to years down the road. Enjoy the games today smile.gif


I recommend toggling the over scan modes every couple of hours so that you shift the logos. Not the most perfect solution but can help. You should adjust the contrast also if you are planning on a marathon. 

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Quick question about how to set HDMI RGB range. I think the default setting is AUto isn't it? How does it work? It looks to me like the TV is set to Standard (16-235) until values outside that range (0-15, 236-255) are transmitted to the TV, in which case it then switches to Nonstandard.

I ask because I only use a single HDMI link between my TV and AVR, and I have multiple sources -- some standard but others like a PC that are nonstandard. It looks to me like using the Auto setting gives me a 0-255 range for all sources, resulting in grays instead of blacks and whites. Putting the TV specifically in Standard mode seems to provide a better contrast and better blacks, but then I suppose some sources will get saturated.

Am I right in my interpretation or should I leave the setting to Auto?
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Originally Posted by gasdag View Post

anyone know what picture setting will allow you to adjust 3d settings? 2d->3d depth? I'm on Custom. Most of the settings are greyed out. I'm wondering if the 3D settings can be tweaked to make them look more 3D, or pop out more from the screen. I know the ST60 is not the greatest for 3D, but just wondering who has made theirs look better.

2D->3D depth is for simulated 3D only. When using simulated 3D, 3D adjustment, left/right swap and diagonal line filter are greyed out, when using real 3D depth is greyed out.
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Originally Posted by marky12 View Post


I recommend toggling the over scan modes every couple of hours so that you shift the logos. Not the most perfect solution but can help. You should adjust the contrast also if you are planning on a marathon. 



Yeah that's pretty much what I do, with the AFC championship game I had the contrast up to 82 and full screen. I don't know maybe I'm lucky or I just put a lot of hours on mine before I did this but I'm not retaining anything, even when it's been on for two hours with a dark banner or static image, I can go to a white or light screen and I won't even see a hint of it.
post #11336 of 12338
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Yeah that's pretty much what I do, with the AFC championship game I had the contrast up to 82 and full screen. I don't know maybe I'm lucky or I just put a lot of hours on mine before I did this but I'm not retaining anything, even when it's been on for two hours with a dark banner or static image, I can go to a white or light screen and I won't even see a hint of it.

I think it has to do with light to dark contrast. My wife watches a lot of law and order on the USA network and I had some IR on the lime green slide but it's pretty hard to tell. If you watch content with a dark background then be careful. I think I'll forget about IR when I reach a couple of thousand hrs.
post #11337 of 12338
Watched both games with contrast at 85, Panel Brightness on MID, and all looks good today. Thanks for the tips. Using a source without bright logos and scrolls helped, I am sure.
post #11338 of 12338
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Originally Posted by neutro View Post

Quick question about how to set HDMI RGB range. I think the default setting is AUto isn't it? How does it work? It looks to me like the TV is set to Standard (16-235) until values outside that range (0-15, 236-255) are transmitted to the TV, in which case it then switches to Nonstandard.

I ask because I only use a single HDMI link between my TV and AVR, and I have multiple sources -- some standard but others like a PC that are nonstandard. It looks to me like using the Auto setting gives me a 0-255 range for all sources, resulting in grays instead of blacks and whites. Putting the TV specifically in Standard mode seems to provide a better contrast and better blacks, but then I suppose some sources will get saturated.

Am I right in my interpretation or should I leave the setting to Auto?

I have mine set to standard (16-235), and set my computer to RGB Limited (using an ATI card, there is a setting for pixel format in the AMD control center...other GPU chips have similar settings somewhere). This makes it put out the standard range for video, and all is well for whites / blacks.

Marc
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I have a quick question. There is a ST 65 at my local HH Gregg floor display. I was unable to see the hours logged... my guess very high. Salesman said that ESPN is on a majority of the days, sometimes movies and the set is run at Vivid settings. Price would be roughly $1500.00 plus tax.

What would be the best way to check for IR on the set? Would the fact that ESPN has been played so much lend itself to future IR?

I wasn't sure where to check for the hours on the set... I do now thanks to the forums. So I can't answer to that.

Thank you.'
post #11340 of 12338
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Originally Posted by jdsmoooth View Post

I have a quick question. There is a ST 65 at my local HH Gregg floor display. I was unable to see the hours logged... my guess very high. Salesman said that ESPN is on a majority of the days, sometimes movies and the set is run at Vivid settings. Price would be roughly $1500.00 plus tax.

What would be the best way to check for IR on the set? Would the fact that ESPN has been played so much lend itself to future IR?

I wasn't sure where to check for the hours on the set... I do now thanks to the forums. So I can't answer to that.

Thank you.'

Didn't you also post this in the VT thread? Same info applies here, basically. Be very careful with ESPN used displays, and really, you need to ask for the remote and get the hours off the set. This takes 2 seconds to do.
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