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post #6751 of 12332
Has anyone had a problem with the closed caption feature on the ST60 TVs?
I find I only get about 1/3 of the captions and then only in C1.
The T 1 through 4 actually obliterate the center of the screen with a blank black area.
My old CRT Panasonic CRT TV has no problem displaying captions.
Any suggestions?
post #6752 of 12332
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Originally Posted by toomuchtech View Post

Has anyone had a problem with the closed caption feature on the ST60 TVs?
I find I only get about 1/3 of the captions and then only in C1.
The T 1 through 4 actually obliterate the center of the screen with a blank black area.
My old CRT Panasonic CRT TV has no problem displaying captions.
Any suggestions?

I hadn't even tried mine until I saw your post. I notice it states that if using an HDMI connection, to turn the CC on at your cable box instead of at the tv... Perhaps try that?
post #6753 of 12332
I am using OTA reception.
Of course DVDs and Blu Rays have the subtitle function so there is no need for cc.
post #6754 of 12332
I want a SIMPLE external speaker set up. Our 9 y.o. Panny had no speakers but a small amp - so we simply hooked up (via wire) bookshelf speakers on the left and right.
I had thought there would be an "analogue" way to wire in those speakers since there are speakers built in. There doesn't seem to be anyway of doing that.
The common"simple" method, now, seems to be to use the digital audio out and use a self-powered sound bar. The residence where this is being used is a small unit and the wall is a common wall w. the adjoining unit. Mounting on the wall would probably disturb the neighbor.
Is there any such thing/way to use the only audio out that exists (digital) and make use of self-powered book shelf speakers. (We would have to get new speakers since our old ones are not powered.)
post #6755 of 12332
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Originally Posted by Razman View Post

This is for all who have purchased a PanasonicST60 series. Panasonic has a promotion for a free electronic touch pen for anyone that purchases a ST60 series between April 14 and June 29, 2013.
I know this is in response to an old post - but I'm going back and catching up, here, since we just got our panel 10 days ago. Where do I find mention of this offer?

I found it: For all of us who just bought this before the end of June, here is the link to the coupon for the free pen (which I doubt I would use).
http://c.shld.net/assets/docs/spin_prod_824331412.pdf
Edited by snidely - 7/4/13 at 9:57pm
post #6756 of 12332
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Originally Posted by snidely View Post

I know this is in response to an old post - but I'm going back and catching up, here, since we just got our panel 10 days ago. Where do I find mention of this offer?

I believe this is what you are looking for Panasonic Touch Pen Rebate

I guess you edited your post after I posted... smile.gif
Edited by fester99 - 7/4/13 at 10:52pm
post #6757 of 12332
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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

You could run a Pixar movie when you're not watching tennis. As long as you pick ones with a 1.78:1 aspect ratio, you should be able to increase the amount of tennis you watch without too much risk.
May give that a go. Cheers mate.
post #6758 of 12332
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Originally Posted by snidely View Post

I want a SIMPLE external speaker set up. Our 9 y.o. Panny had no speakers but a small amp - so we simply hooked up (via wire) bookshelf speakers on the left and right.
I had thought there would be an "analogue" way to wire in those speakers since there are speakers built in. There doesn't seem to be anyway of doing that.
The common"simple" method, now, seems to be to use the digital audio out and use a self-powered sound bar. The residence where this is being used is a small unit and the wall is a common wall w. the adjoining unit. Mounting on the wall would probably disturb the neighbor.
Is there any such thing/way to use the only audio out that exists (digital) and make use of self-powered book shelf speakers. (We would have to get new speakers since our old ones are not powered.)

I believe a digital to analog audio converter is what you are looking for. There are others on Amazon, but this one has the best/most reviews:

http://www.amazon.com/D3-Digital-Converter-Optical-Toslink/dp/B005K2TXMO/ref=zg_bs_3224445011_2
post #6759 of 12332
TV is here!!

Should I change the Picture Settings straight away or wait?
Edited by Jack25 - 7/5/13 at 4:05am
post #6760 of 12332
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Originally Posted by Jack25 View Post

TV is here!!

Should I change the Picture Settings straight away or wait?
Depends. Are you going to run break-in slides? If not, adjust the settings to your hearts content.
post #6761 of 12332
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Originally Posted by crn3371 View Post

Depends. Are you going to run break-in slides? If not, adjust the settings to your hearts content.
Wasnt planning to use slides, but also didn't want to calibrate before 100 hours as it may affect the pixels.

And i seem to have the soap opera effect. How do i access motion smoothing to turn it off?
post #6762 of 12332
Picked up my 55ST60 from Sears on Wednesday night! I have started out using cnet's settings and I am loving it so far, except that twice in the last two days I am getting the following error message and no signal from my Time Warner Cable box on HDMI1 input:

"Display incompatible Code HDCP-019 "The set-top's HDMI port requires an HDCP-compatible TV input. Please switch to a compatible TV input or do not use the set-top's HDMI port. If your TV's input supports HDCP, the HDMI cable may be at fault."

I am using brand new basic 8' HDMI cables with ferrite cores from Monoprice.

Once I rebooted the cable box and that worked to get the signal back but I tried doing that again this morning and it did not work.

Has anyone run into this and what should my next step be? I am thinking of swapping out my cable box (I think it is a Scientific Atlanta 4240) tonight.

Would appreciate any insight anyone may have. Thanks!
post #6763 of 12332
Are there cameras besides the Panasonic TY-CC20W that are compatible with the st60? I tried a logitech c525 that I have for pc aaand - no dice.
post #6764 of 12332
afaik there are only 2 camera that works on the St60, the freetalk and the cc20w. Sometimes you can get the freetalk used on on return from amazon warehouse deals for around 50 bucks, which is what I did. Works fine for skyping with relatives in our living room.
post #6765 of 12332
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Originally Posted by HDT2 View Post

Picked up my 55ST60 from Sears on Wednesday night! I have started out using cnet's settings and I am loving it so far, except that twice in the last two days I am getting the following error message and no signal from my Time Warner Cable box on HDMI1 input:

"Display incompatible Code HDCP-019 "The set-top's HDMI port requires an HDCP-compatible TV input. Please switch to a compatible TV input or do not use the set-top's HDMI port. If your TV's input supports HDCP, the HDMI cable may be at fault."

I am using brand new basic 8' HDMI cables with ferrite cores from Monoprice.

Once I rebooted the cable box and that worked to get the signal back but I tried doing that again this morning and it did not work.

Has anyone run into this and what should my next step be? I am thinking of swapping out my cable box (I think it is a Scientific Atlanta 4240) tonight.

Would appreciate any insight anyone may have. Thanks!
I've ran into this issue a few times with directv. It's random and simply an HDMI issue. All my hdmi cables are HDCP compliant as is the tv. It's just a "handshake" issue hdmi cables sometimes have. Buying new cables doesn't really solve anything. It's annoying big time. I ended up buying some Component cables just in case it gets to the point where it annoys me too much. Fixing it is random, sometimes a reboot of the box, sometimes unplugging hdmi cables, sometimes turning tv off then on, it's a crap shoot.
post #6766 of 12332
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Originally Posted by garnettrules21 View Post

I've ran into this issue a few times with directv. It's random and simply an HDMI issue. All my hdmi cables are HDCP compliant as is the tv. It's just a "handshake" issue hdmi cables sometimes have. Buying new cables doesn't really solve anything. It's annoying big time. I ended up buying some Component cables just in case it gets to the point where it annoys me too much. Fixing it is random, sometimes a reboot of the box, sometimes unplugging hdmi cables, sometimes turning tv off then on, it's a crap shoot.
i was having handshake issues with the HDMI CEC on so I turned it all off, no problems since. HDMI CEC is called various things in this panel it is Viera connect, pioneer calls it Kuro Link, sony refers to it as Bravia Link. I noticed more times than it was useful it was broken, so I forgo the convenience for no issues. It was nice controlling the PS3 with the Panasonic remote though.
post #6767 of 12332
Thank you both for the feedback! I will try setting Viera Link to OFF in the setup menu and see if that helps. Seems crazy that brand new HDMI cables would not work properly with a brand new TV.
post #6768 of 12332
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Originally Posted by Jack25 View Post

Wasnt planning to use slides, but also didn't want to calibrate before 100 hours as it may affect the pixels.

And i seem to have the soap opera effect. How do i access motion smoothing to turn it off?

Turn off the Motion Smoother to get rid of that. It's the second screen in the main Picture settings (just arrow down).
Also, I and others have found that outputting 24fps from the PS3/Blu-ray player gives some strange motion effects as well, so you may want to disable that in your player.

If you're not running the slides, set it to Cinema, turn down Contrast/Picture to about 50~60, maybe turn up color to about 55, and break it in that way. Once you have 100+ hours, you should be able to turn Contrast back up to about 80.

You should turn off all the other "enhancements" as well, the CATS, Video/MPEG NR etc. Turn or leave Overscan as ON (while it breaks in). And turn the Advanced > HDMI Content Type to OFF for all. Then copy those settings to Cinema on the other inputs.

Just run full-screen content while it breaks in, and limit the amount of content with black bars and/or with network logos/bugs on the screen (bring up DVR menu, etc. to break up the time). Some are better than others (FX is small and transparent, some are solid). I've been running videos / game trailers on a loop on my PS3 when I'm not using it. HBO is a good channel to leave on as well, has no watermark logos.
post #6769 of 12332
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Originally Posted by Jack25 View Post

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Originally Posted by crn3371 View Post

Depends. Are you going to run break-in slides? If not, adjust the settings to your hearts content.
Wasnt planning to use slides, but also didn't want to calibrate before 100 hours as it may affect the pixels.
Using your TV ages the phosphor coating that's used to create pixels. If you run your display with high contrast and brightness settings, the pixels will age faster than if you use more moderate settings. There is nothing magic about 100 hours.
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And i seem to have the soap opera effect. How do i access motion smoothing to turn it off?
You turn it off in the setup menus, but I'm not an owner so I can't give you the exact steps. If your soap opera effect problem involves a Blu-ray player you should check out this post.
post #6770 of 12332
Hello...I'm getting a 50" ST60 that should be ready for me to pick up this monday....can't wait! Can anyone tell me how much clearance there is between the bottom of the stand and the bottom edge of the screen/bezel? I have a logitech z5500 speaker system, and I'm hoping that I can place my center speaker in front of the TV on my TV stand without the speaker blocking the picture.

Thanks!
post #6771 of 12332
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Originally Posted by lukaspriest View Post

Hello...I'm getting a 50" ST60 that should be ready for me to pick up this monday....can't wait! Can anyone tell me how much clearance there is between the bottom of the stand and the bottom edge of the screen/bezel? I have a logitech z5500 speaker system, and I'm hoping that I can place my center speaker in front of the TV on my TV stand without the speaker blocking the picture.

Thanks!
hey lukaspriest,

Looks like about 2.5" fr the bottom of the bezel to the bottom of the base. The base does jut out in front of the display a bit as well, which will probably cut another .5" off that space.

Bezel itself looks to be about 1.75" from edge to screen area.

Hope that helps wink.gif
post #6772 of 12332
Mazzelectra,

Many, many thanks for your reply! It looks like I'll have to mount my center channel speaker on a little shelf on the wall behind the TV; there just won't be room directly in front of it, given the clearance measurements you have been so cool to provide.

Thanks again,
post #6773 of 12332
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Originally Posted by lukaspriest View Post

Mazzelectra,

Many, many thanks for your reply! It looks like I'll have to mount my center channel speaker on a little shelf on the wall behind the TV; there just won't be room directly in front of it, given the clearance measurements you have been so cool to provide.

Thanks again,
I have a center channel speaker issue as well that I have not quite resolved........
post #6774 of 12332
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Originally Posted by lukaspriest View Post

Mazzelectra,

Many, many thanks for your reply! It looks like I'll have to mount my center channel speaker on a little shelf on the wall behind the TV; there just won't be room directly in front of it, given the clearance measurements you have been so cool to provide.

Thanks again,

NP - glad to help.

I, too, have been contemplating the same issue of late (thinking about jumping into the Sonos universe with the Playbar). Sadly, I can't wall mount at this time so it may be a headphone setup for now...which I don't mind wink.gif
post #6775 of 12332
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

I have a center channel speaker issue as well that I have not quite resolved........

This is the shelf I use (36" wide x 10" deep):

http://www.potterybarn.com/products/crown-molding-shelf/?pkey=cledge-shelf&

I also angle my center down with rubber wedge door stops. smile.gif
post #6776 of 12332
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Originally Posted by sawfish View Post

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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

I have a center channel speaker issue as well that I have not quite resolved........

This is the shelf I use (36" wide x 10" deep):

http://www.potterybarn.com/products/crown-molding-shelf/?pkey=cledge-shelf&

I also angle my center down with rubber wedge door stops. smile.gif
I do to, but ours are angled up. They are dense, black, and look like they were designed for the job. rolleyes.gif
Edited by htwaits - 7/6/13 at 1:53am
post #6777 of 12332
I am getting no sound from the Amazon, and Youtube app. I get the picture just fine. The Amazon and Youtube app work perfect when streaming through the PS3. Am I missing a setting somewhere on the tv, or receiver?
Edited by kopower - 7/5/13 at 10:02pm
post #6778 of 12332
Hi all ST60 fellow owners,
I just got a 50ST60 for 2 days and ran the slide deck 2 days straight to age the phosphor . However, the Disney WOW disc test pattern shows the black is perfect but white is so off no matter how high contrast I adjusted to and no matter how many hours I ran the slide deck.
I have 2 weeks to exchange/return this set to BB and I tried to read this thread as much as I can but I've not found posts talking about this issue yet.
The ideal white and 1%, 2%, 3% all have gray Stars when all of them should be pure white even if I adjust contrast to 100.

On my V10, both black and white test pattern comes back fine.

Is this a bad pannel? or after 100 hours of stack running (48 hours in right now) will it change ? Or is this the limitation of this pannel that Black can go as black but white cannot ?

Thanks for your time.
Any help would be appreciated.
post #6779 of 12332
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

So here are some other thoughts of mine after owning the TV for 2 days besides the picture that we all know is fantastic.

Aesthetically, while I am all for simplicity and less is more designs, the ST60 falls short. I know a lot of reviews say the TV just has a minimal look but I feel it has a cheap look. The bezel is to shiny adding to that feeling. Also, the glare on the bezel is terrible. Here you have a TV that handles glare great in the daylight but glares shine all the overly glossy bezel. Also the silver lining around the TV was absolutely not necessary and I think it just makes the TV look cheaper with silver colored plastic. Maybe some people are a fan of the design but I am not. Would it change my mind on buying the is TV, no. If it was being sold at a premium price I sure would question it more. So I guess they needed to cut corners somewhere and the design was it. It is an okay trade off I guess.

The sound on the TV has to be one of the worst I heard. People used to say the LG LED TVs sounded bad. On those TV's all you had to do is enable tru-voice and the sound was decent. On this TV no matter what you do nothing makes it sound good. Very hollow sounding. The best I could do was put it on user and set the eq myself. Sure, you can add a sound bar. Someone want to buy me one biggrin.gif

If you are, stop those slides and watch some TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your paragraph on the (lack) of aesthetics looks like it was copied word-for-word from my post of 10 days ago when we got our 60" model. It really looks tacky compared to the 9 y.o. Panny it replaced - which had a simple flat black bezel. We have a 5 y.o. Panny in our main home which has a dull silver finish. While not outright tacky, it still isn't as handsome as the OLD Panny was. Our modems, routers, speakers are all dull black. What's with the tacky finish on these newer panels?

I'm now in the process of trying to decide what to do about the sound. This panel is in a smallish condo unit we use only use 1/3 to 1/2 time. The old Panny had no speakers, but a built in amp. I think I have decided to try and find a sound bar that I'll put on a shelf under the wall-mounted panel. Don't want to put it on common wall with neighbor. A MUST would be that I would be able to control it with our Comcast remote.

I was in a rush to buy this unit as our old Panny died w.o. warning. I saw it at BB after reading reviews here and CNET. To be honest, simply didn't notice the tackiness. BB stores in Northern CA. were all out of stock as was Sears - had it delivered by another west coast chain that has a nearby outlet. Am pleased w. the picture. I AM WATCHING TV!!!. Just tonite set the calibration settings in one mode from this forum and another mode from CNET.
post #6780 of 12332
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Originally Posted by cyberbri View Post

Turn off the Motion Smoother to get rid of that. It's the second screen in the main Picture settings (just arrow down).
Also, I and others have found that outputting 24fps from the PS3/Blu-ray player gives some strange motion effects as well, so you may want to disable that in your player.

If you're not running the slides, set it to Cinema, turn down Contrast/Picture to about 50~60, maybe turn up color to about 55, and break it in that way. Once you have 100+ hours, you should be able to turn Contrast back up to about 80.

You should turn off all the other "enhancements" as well, the CATS, Video/MPEG NR etc. Turn or leave Overscan as ON (while it breaks in). And turn the Advanced > HDMI Content Type to OFF for all. Then copy those settings to Cinema on the other inputs.

Just run full-screen content while it breaks in, and limit the amount of content with black bars and/or with network logos/bugs on the screen (bring up DVR menu, etc. to break up the time). Some are better than others (FX is small and transparent, some are solid). I've been running videos / game trailers on a loop on my PS3 when I'm not using it. HBO is a good channel to leave on as well, has no watermark logos.

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Originally Posted by htwaits View Post

Using your TV ages the phosphor coating that's used to create pixels. If you run your display with high contrast and brightness settings, the pixels will age faster than if you use more moderate settings. There is nothing magic about 100 hours.
You turn it off in the setup menus, but I'm not an owner so I can't give you the exact steps. If your soap opera effect problem involves a Blu-ray player you should check out this post.
Thanks for the replies. However, cyberbri says turn contrast down, while ht waits says turn it up to age the pixels faster. biggrin.gif
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