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post #7261 of 12396
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Originally Posted by dank0723 View Post

Thanks for the reply Sooke, and nice to see a fellow Raleigh guy smile.gif Which settings would that be under to change the TV HDMI to 0-255? First time Panny owner... Im still used to Samsung hehe.

Go to advanced picture. Than HDMI/DVI RBG range. Than you can change what the range is for each hdmi input. Not the easiest thing to find unfortunately.
post #7262 of 12396
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Originally Posted by mdanderson View Post

I have not noticed any "horizontal stretching" in any of the 3D movies I have watched. I have 24fps turned on in my player(oppo 105) but I read where some ST60 owners have it turned off in the player. What would be the reason for this? Thanks.

When 24fps is left on from the player, there is still soap opera effect even with motion smoothing turned off.
post #7263 of 12396
This probably isn't the right forum to ask - but - maybe somebody can refer me:
Watched a BBC Sherlock H olmes via Netflix last nite. Video was excellent. However, the audio was out of synch. Seemed to be behind the video. The programs via the DVR don't seem quite so bad. We played netflix via the Panny option rather than via our Sony BD player. The sound is routed directly into a JBL soundbar via optical cable.
Question - I know many AV boxes can be set to compensate for this out-of-synch problem. This panel is in a small condo and doesn't warrant a high end set up. Is there a simple box whose sole purpose is to bring audio-video into synch?
post #7264 of 12396
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Originally Posted by snidely View Post

This probably isn't the right forum to ask - but - maybe somebody can refer me:
Watched a BBC Sherlock H olmes via Netflix last nite. Video was excellent. However, the audio was out of synch. Seemed to be behind the video. The programs via the DVR don't seem quite so bad. We played netflix via the Panny option rather than via our Sony BD player. The sound is routed directly into a JBL soundbar via optical cable.
Question - I know many AV boxes can be set to compensate for this out-of-synch problem. This panel is in a small condo and doesn't warrant a high end set up. Is there a simple box whose sole purpose is to bring audio-video into synch?
Check out Felston. I have an audio delay box from them that gives you the choice of optical or coax digital input and output.

Felston Digital Audio Delay DD540 is the model that I used about eight years ago.
post #7265 of 12396
I haven't tested it yet but I am very glad to hear the positive response towards the 3D update.
post #7266 of 12396
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Originally Posted by snidely View Post

This probably isn't the right forum to ask - but - maybe somebody can refer me:
Watched a BBC Sherlock H olmes via Netflix last nite. Video was excellent. However, the audio was out of synch. Seemed to be behind the video. The programs via the DVR don't seem quite so bad. We played netflix via the Panny option rather than via our Sony BD player. The sound is routed directly into a JBL soundbar via optical cable.
Question - I know many AV boxes can be set to compensate for this out-of-synch problem. This panel is in a small condo and doesn't warrant a high end set up. Is there a simple box whose sole purpose is to bring audio-video into synch?

If the audio is behind the video then you can't do anything I know of when using the TV for the source. There are options when using an external source but all of them I've seen are expensive. If the video is behind the audio, which is usually the case, then you have options.

Have you tried watching anything else from Netflix? It may just be what you watched was out of sync from the source.
post #7267 of 12396
Amazon has a decent deal on the 65" right now if anyone's interested.
post #7268 of 12396
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

Amazon has a decent deal on the 65" right now if anyone's interested.

That seems to be a great price on the 65" ST60. Is it worth another $500 to step up to the 65" VT60 (and I know they'll be differing opinions)?
post #7269 of 12396
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Originally Posted by cbragwel View Post

That seems to be a great price on the 65" ST60. Is it worth another $500 to step up to the 65" VT60 (and I know they'll be differing opinions)?

I haven't seen both TV's but I think the ST60 is the sweet spot. It is easy to get sucked in to buying something more than you need when it comes to stuff like this. The $700 going from the S60 to the ST60 is justified. The $500 above that to get the to VT60 is not. 99% of people wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two. Just my opinion.
post #7270 of 12396
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Originally Posted by cbragwel View Post

That seems to be a great price on the 65" ST60. Is it worth another $500 to step up to the 65" VT60 (and I know they'll be differing opinions)?
Over the long hall, yes it is worth the extra costs.......
post #7271 of 12396
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Originally Posted by cyberbri View Post


Most people leave it at Limited, with Super-White set to on for Y/Pb/Pr, and then can use the same TV picture settings for everything.

That is what i would recommend for the PS3 as well.
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Originally Posted by sooke View Post

I think as long as the console and TV match settings you should be ok. So If you set the PS3 to HDMI full, you should set the TV's HDMI to 0-255 instead of the default Standard (20-235). That should solve your dark screen. Or set both console and display to the Standard setting. I'm not clear on whether one way is an advantage over the other, but I do know they should match.
setting the ps3 for full crushes the blacks.

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Originally Posted by cyberbri View Post

Set the PS3 to RGB Limited, and 24 HZ/FPS to OFF (for this particular TV).
1080p/24 Hz could be on automatic, depends on your preference on motion in movies i have it on auto, works fine.
post #7272 of 12396
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

Which Yamaha receiver? ARC works fine with both of my Yamahas. HDMI from receiver to TV needs to be input 2. ARC and HDMI control on the receiver need to be on and the Viera Link on the TV needs to be on. With the receiver powered on that should allow access to the Viera app.
RX-V667 connected to HDMI 2. All viera setting options are on and HDMI control and ARC are selected for the receiver. The Vierea Link app still says feature not available.
post #7273 of 12396
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Originally Posted by odd-props View Post

RX-V667 connected to HDMI 2. All viera setting options are on and HDMI control and ARC are selected for the receiver. The Vierea Link app still says feature not available.
According to the manual:
You can enable or disable the audio return channel (ARC) function within the setup menu of in receiver. Make sure that you have ARC turned on.

Using the Yamaha remote, press ON SCREEN, go to Setup, and select HDMI. In the HDMI menu select ARC and turn it on. By default AV4 is setup as your ARC input. You can change this by adjusting the TV Audio Input in the HDMI menu of the receiver.
Ensure that you have the HDMI out on the back of the receiver ran to the HDMI input that is label ARC on the back of the TV.

Are you using AV4 for your sound? you can reassign the ARC to a different input if you want but default is AV4. change your output on your receiver to select AV4 and it should read TV on the display.

Don't know if this helps.
post #7274 of 12396
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Originally Posted by fester99 View Post

According to the manual:
You can enable or disable the audio return channel (ARC) function within the setup menu of in receiver. Make sure that you have ARC turned on.

Using the Yamaha remote, press ON SCREEN, go to Setup, and select HDMI. In the HDMI menu select ARC and turn it on. By default AV4 is setup as your ARC input. You can change this by adjusting the TV Audio Input in the HDMI menu of the receiver.
Ensure that you have the HDMI out on the back of the receiver ran to the HDMI input that is label ARC on the back of the TV.

Are you using AV4 for your sound? you can reassign the ARC to a different input if you want but default is AV4. change your output on your receiver to select AV4 and it should read TV on the display.

Don't know if this helps.

I believe you might want to try a better/different cable if you haven't already, not all cables support ARC.
post #7275 of 12396
So people seem a bit iffy around here about Sears.

BestBuy near me doesn't have the TV's but ships to the store within 4 days if you plonk the money down beforehand. I'd much rather walk into the store when its already there.
Is BestBuy's return policy 14 or 30 days? I can't get it straight.

I don't have any Pauls around me, and they are out of stock. Options are Sears, BestBuy, Amazon, and Panasonic.
post #7276 of 12396
Thanks for the suggestions everybody. I will try a new cable. I have been meaning to get one with a 90 degree end anyway, so the cable does not stick out the side visibly when connected to these side facing inputs.
post #7277 of 12396
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Originally Posted by MarieAntoinette View Post

So people seem a bit iffy around here about Sears.

BestBuy near me doesn't have the TV's but ships to the store within 4 days if you plonk the money down beforehand. I'd much rather walk into the store when its already there.
Is BestBuy's return policy 14 or 30 days? I can't get it straight.

I don't have any Pauls around me, and they are out of stock. Options are Sears, BestBuy, Amazon, and Panasonic.

Unless you are a platinum Rewards level member, their return policy is 15 days.
post #7278 of 12396
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Originally Posted by cbragwel View Post

That seems to be a great price on the 65" ST60. Is it worth another $500 to step up to the 65" VT60 (and I know they'll be differing opinions)?

You could go with the ST60 and use the $500 savings to pay for a professional calibration. wink.gif
post #7279 of 12396
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Originally Posted by NCCaniac View Post

You could go with the ST60 and use the $500 savings to pay for a professional calibration. wink.gif
Unless there is some feature you need from the VT series i would go with the above information. Picture Quality wise a calibrated ST looks very close to the VT OOB. I don't think very many people would visibly see the diferences between the panels in a normal viewing environment.
post #7280 of 12396
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Originally Posted by odd-props View Post

RX-V667 connected to HDMI 2. All viera setting options are on and HDMI control and ARC are selected for the receiver. The Vierea Link app still says feature not available.

I'm using that exact receiver right now and ARC works fine. Is the HDMI cable 1.4? You need a 1.4 cable for ARC.
post #7281 of 12396
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

Amazon has a decent deal on the 65" right now if anyone's interested.


Same deal at Paul's TV with no tax.... (save200)
post #7282 of 12396
The update made a noticeable difference with 3D performance. At first I was thinking there was barely any improvement, then I realized I had game mode on. I wonder if Cnet updated their review to reflect the improvements.

I really want to wall mount this thing. Is it a pretty big risk running the tv power chord in the wall and plugging it in to a surge protector on the outside of the wall? The molding you can buy looks tacky and a 100 dollar power bridge is beyond my budget (and skill level I'm sure). Also, do the monoprice mounts come with the right screws?
post #7283 of 12396
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

I'm using that exact receiver right now and ARC works fine. Is the HDMI cable 1.4? You need a 1.4 cable for ARC.

You want to look for a "High Speed" cable. 1.3 and 1.4 are designations for equipment (TV, AVR), not cables. I do not believe that this TV can benefit from High Speed with Ethernet.

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/hdmi-1-4-cable.htm?hdmidept

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-cables/hdmi-cable.htm
Edited by ricemanva - 8/1/13 at 1:59pm
post #7284 of 12396
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Originally Posted by tedcousens View Post

Same deal at Paul's TV with no tax.... (save200)

No tax at Amazon for most people. I've seen a fair amount of people who were unhappy in their dealings with Pauls, that's very rare at Amazon.
post #7285 of 12396
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Originally Posted by ricemanva View Post

You want to look for a "High Speed" cable. 1.3 and 1.4 are designations for equipment (TV, AVR), not cables. I do not believe that this TV can benefit from High Speed with Ethernet.

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/articles/hdmi-1-4-cable.htm?hdmidept

http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240

http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-cables/hdmi-cable.htm
With ethernet supports 3D so this TV does benefit from it.
post #7286 of 12396
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

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Originally Posted by odd-props View Post

RX-V667 connected to HDMI 2. All viera setting options are on and HDMI control and ARC are selected for the receiver. The Vierea Link app still says feature not available.

I'm using that exact receiver right now and ARC works fine. Is the HDMI cable 1.4? You need a 1.4 cable for ARC.
Officially there is no such cable. A HDMI cable certified as "High Speed" will handle the bandwidth between version 1.4 devices. The HDMI version numbers refer to the devices not the cables.
post #7287 of 12396
Just used the WoW disc and came up with color at 61 using cinema. Seem high? I dont recall seeing anyone with a measurement so high. I also finished with contrast 82, brightness +4
post #7288 of 12396
A comment about 3D after the update. It is markedly better. The 3D adjustment no longer needs to be touched. If you take it off of 0 it becomes very blurry. Whatever Panny did to remedy the situation definitely worked.
post #7289 of 12396
Colors are a little muted in Cinema, compared to Custom. With the WOW disc, did you use the colored gels? There might be limitations on those, more than what I understand. One thing you can do is go to the AVS 709 thread (with all the mp4 downloads), grab the video calibration video files, and check the color greyscales, color 225-255 scale, etc. videos.
post #7290 of 12396
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Originally Posted by Lethean View Post

The update made a noticeable difference with 3D performance. At first I was thinking there was barely any improvement, then I realized I had game mode on. I wonder if Cnet updated their review to reflect the improvements.

I really want to wall mount this thing. Is it a pretty big risk running the tv power chord in the wall and plugging it in to a surge protector on the outside of the wall? The molding you can buy looks tacky and a 100 dollar power bridge is beyond my budget (and skill level I'm sure). Also, do the monoprice mounts come with the right screws?
How could it be a big risk running a heavyish cord inside a wall for a few feet? If you are really worried, get a module to put between the cord and where it pugs into the wall that will trip at a low amperage - say 10 amps. That will trip way before a std. 15 or 20 amp circuit breaker.
I ran my 6 ft. 14AWG extension cord inside the wall. In practice, a 16awg cord would be adequate. You'd be running less than 5 amps to run the panel. I simply plugged it into a Monoprice "midlevel" surge protector. Oh - the Monoprice wall bracket we had from 5 years ago came w. the right screws. Since this screen (like all newer panels) are much thinner so we had to get shorter bolts. Diameter was the same. I assume they now come with shorter length bolts. They have exc. support via chat where you can ask such questions. We have the kind that tilts up,down and side to side. Our old Panny was 50". Brackets fit our 60" perfectly.
Thanks for info on 3d. Now we'll need to find something in 3d to watch - before 3d becomes extinct.
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