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post #8101 of 12327
Thanks for the responses. It's a big relief to have confirmation that it's most likely HDMI, and not my panel.
post #8102 of 12327
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Originally Posted by ttnuagmada View Post

I'm not saying that you personally should play with voltages, just that a technician should adjust them. Im pretty sure that I read in a service manual that it's voltage related. It's definitely something to that effect, as every year there is always someone with IR problems, and others with no problems at all. I've been very abusive to my ST30 (day long gaming sessions, 1000+ hours of HTPC usage) and have never had IR problems of any kind while I saw other people complaining about IR issues.

That would be an interesting explanation. I'm game for accepting that if that's the case. How do we go about fixing that?
post #8103 of 12327
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Originally Posted by PeeJHooK View Post

Does anyone know if the ST60 uses bluetooth or IR for 3D? I just tried using my playstation 3D glasses, which are supposedly universal for active 3D using IR, and they don't work on my ST60.

It uses Bluetooth for 3D. You can use the Samsung 4100 or 5100 glasses if you need more, they're about 1/3 the price of the Panasonics.
post #8104 of 12327
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

It uses Bluetooth for 3D. You can use the Samsung 4100 or 5100 glasses if you need more, they're about 1/3 the price of the Panasonics.

Really? I gotta re-read the specs. I could swear the ST60 didn't have BT anything...
post #8105 of 12327
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Originally Posted by MonicaJae View Post

Really? I gotta re-read the specs. I could swear the ST60 didn't have BT anything...
I think the glasses are the only BT thing it has.
post #8106 of 12327
I wish you could use it with other BT peripherals...like a keyboard or mouse or something frown.gif
post #8107 of 12327
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

It uses Bluetooth for 3D. You can use the Samsung 4100 or 5100 glasses if you need more, they're about 1/3 the price of the Panasonics.

I was eyeing a couple pair on ebay. Very reasonable. That's probably what I was getting confused. my bad smile.gif
post #8108 of 12327
Hmm, in this link's description of the ST60 it says:
http://www.avsforum.com/products/panasonic-tc-p55st60-55-inch-1080p-600hz-3d-smart-plasma-hdtv

" Internet Ready Built-in Wi-Fi w/ Bluetooth Built-in Wi-Fi w/ Bluetooth Built-in Wi-Fi w/ Bluetooth Built-in Wireless LAN Shades of Gradation 30,720 steps 30,720 steps 12,288 steps 6,144 steps 6,144 steps Surround Speaker Mode VR-Audio Pro Surround 2.1

***********SOME MISCELLANEOUS, SUPERFLUOUS STUFF HERE***********************************************

Fast Switching Phosphors VIERA Touch Pad Controller Included ISFCC Certification Dual Core with Hexa Processing THX 3D Certification Built-in Camera option option *Does not include smartphone**Optional communication camera required"

I'm pretty sure this needs editing? lol Pretty sure the ST60 is single core...and also kinda sure it is not THX 3d certified...or is it? what does that mean exactly? It sounds cool smile.gif
Edited by MonicaJae - 9/10/13 at 2:09pm
post #8109 of 12327
Sounds like the VT60 description
post #8110 of 12327
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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

It uses Bluetooth for 3D. You can use the Samsung 4100 or 5100 glasses if you need more, they're about 1/3 the price of the Panasonics.

thank you!
post #8111 of 12327
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Originally Posted by JJMiller View Post

Weird problem with new 60ST60. So, I've had the set for about 10 days now. Twice, the TV has been turned on and the picture has a completely pink hue (source is cable box over HDMI, BTW). I'm not talking slightly reddish skin tones. I mean I can see the image, but the whole picture is pink, almost like an old CRT where one or more of the guns is not working. I turn the set off and then back on, and the picture is fine.

What do folks think? Could this be an HDMI synching issue? Would you be concerned about this? Other that those weird issues, the set is perfect: fantastic picture, no audible hum, no IR in 120+ hours of use (including plenty of sports with static graphics). I'd hate to swap it out and take a chance on a panel that does have minor issues.

Sounds like a color space issue. Make sure the color space is the same at both the cable box and the tv. Ex YCbCr 4:2:2 etc. It''s best to set the tv to auto in color space if you don't want to figure out the best color space for your tv. On my pioneer tv the settings for color space are under hdmi input video.
post #8112 of 12327
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Hopefully by Christmas I'll have the 60" ST on my wall smile.gif
Hopefully there is stock by then as well, the 60ST60 is the hardest unit right now to find in stock anywhere.
post #8113 of 12327
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Hopefully there is stock by then as well, the 60ST60 is the hardest unit right now to find in stock anywhere.

I ordered mine from Abt mid August, and got it last Thursday. It was listed as back-ordered when I placed the order.

What surprised me was that the build date was August 2013. I don't think I ever purchased a piece of electronics and had it so soon after it was actually built. They appear to be coming from the factory to the vendors to the users without much layover time in the vendor warehouses.
post #8114 of 12327
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Originally Posted by JJMiller View Post

Weird problem with new 60ST60. So, I've had the set for about 10 days now. Twice, the TV has been turned on and the picture has a completely pink hue (source is cable box over HDMI, BTW). I'm not talking slightly reddish skin tones. I mean I can see the image, but the whole picture is pink, almost like an old CRT where one or more of the guns is not working. I turn the set off and then back on, and the picture is fine.

What do folks think? Could this be an HDMI synching issue? Would you be concerned about this? Other that those weird issues, the set is perfect: fantastic picture, no audible hum, no IR in 120+ hours of use (including plenty of sports with static graphics). I'd hate to swap it out and take a chance on a panel that does have minor issues.

Go search under my name a few months back in this thread. It's an HDMI handshake issue, and the fix is to turn on the devices in a certain order. I did that and the problem never returned.

And potentially major IR issues begin around the 400 hour mark as others (myself included) have noted in this thread. Don't assume your set is absolved from the issue, be proactive and watch sports at low contrast settings and/or in Zoom mode.
post #8115 of 12327
65st60 Networking/DLNA

Hey guys, I want to ask a few questions about the DLNA (which I don't quite understand) and networking within the st60. I currently have a WDTV-Live and stream .mkv/.flac/.wav/.mp4/.mp3/etc, but I'm wondering if I can just drop the WDTV-Live and use the TV? I see that it has DLNA and when looking at topics regarding streaming DLNA always seems to be the best way. I currently stream wirelessly, but will run a Cat6 cable from the router to the WDTV-Live (or st60) within the next week or so as I'm getting a signal drop out/buffering when watching blu-ray's, I'm assuming because they're too large of a file to stream wirelessly. With that said, is my best option to just skip the WDTV-Live and run the cable directly into the st60? I stream movies, music and use Spotify/Pandora on occasion also. Just trying to get the best possible connection that will not buffer on .mkv blu-ray's. Everything else is fine wirelessly, but obviously I need to be wired.


Thanks for you help guys!! biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post

65st60 Networking/DLNA

Hey guys, I want to ask a few questions about the DLNA (which I don't quite understand) and networking within the st60. I currently have a WDTV-Live and stream .mkv/.flac/.wav/.mp4/.mp3/etc, but I'm wondering if I can just drop the WDTV-Live and use the TV? I see that it has DLNA and when looking at topics regarding streaming DLNA always seems to be the best way. I currently stream wirelessly, but will run a Cat6 cable from the router to the WDTV-Live (or st60) within the next week or so as I'm getting a signal drop out/buffering when watching blu-ray's, I'm assuming because they're too large of a file to stream wirelessly. With that said, is my best option to just skip the WDTV-Live and run the cable directly into the st60? I stream movies, music and use Spotify/Pandora on occasion also. Just trying to get the best possible connection that will not buffer on .mkv blu-ray's. Everything else is fine wirelessly, but obviously I need to be wired.


Thanks for you help guys!! biggrin.gif

I would not drop the WD. The Panasonic's codec selection is limited compared to the WD. I can't quote you the differences, but I've seen people complaining about not getting mkv's to play on the Panasonic. The WD, just does more, period.
post #8117 of 12327
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

Hopefully there is stock by then as well, the 60ST60 is the hardest unit right now to find in stock anywhere.

I lucked out and got mine by checking the BB site at like 3 a.m seeing they got a new shipment in. It wasn't 4 hours later and they were sold out again. Someone posted a few weeks ago that Amazon had them in stock again also. 45 min later they were sold out. Pretty insane if you ask me. With shopping season coming up, good luck with that journey.
post #8118 of 12327
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Originally Posted by cadett View Post

I would not drop the WD. The Panasonic's codec selection is limited compared to the WD. I can't quote you the differences, but I've seen people complaining about not getting mkv's to play on the Panasonic. The WD, just does more, period.




Agreed i have the same setup and decided to keep the wd live. Mostly for the reason that the st60 does not seem to read my 3tb my book external hdd. It picks it up but does not let you go into the drive. Maybe a format issue or just firmware but the wd live after a firmware update works perfectly. It also has much better file sorting abilities.
post #8119 of 12327
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Originally Posted by LABNEWF View Post

Agreed i have the same setup and decided to keep the wd live. Mostly for the reason that the st60 does not seem to read my 3tb my book external hdd. It picks it up but does not let you go into the drive. Maybe a format issue or just firmware but the wd live after a firmware update works perfectly. It also has much better file sorting abilities.

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Originally Posted by cadett View Post

I would not drop the WD. The Panasonic's codec selection is limited compared to the WD. I can't quote you the differences, but I've seen people complaining about not getting mkv's to play on the Panasonic. The WD, just does more, period.

Thanks guys. Appreciate it biggrin.gif I really do love how the WD plays everything I throw at it. I had the Roku first and hated it. Love that the WD can play my FLAC/WAV stuff

LABNEWF, are you running wired with the WD? I've been told that running wired will likely fix my buffering issue with blu-ray's. I've tried to compress them down into a "remux" type file so they'd be a little smaller overall but still have the same audio/video as a blu-ray, but still have buffering. I'll run a Cat6 cable from the router to the WD if that's the solution.
Edited by ousooner2 - 9/11/13 at 1:31pm
post #8120 of 12327
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Originally Posted by BGLeduc View Post

I ordered mine from Abt mid August, and got it last Thursday. It was listed as back-ordered when I placed the order.

What surprised me was that the build date was August 2013. I don't think I ever purchased a piece of electronics and had it so soon after it was actually built. They appear to be coming from the factory to the vendors to the users without much layover time in the vendor warehouses.

Where do you find the build date?
post #8121 of 12327
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Originally Posted by tuffluck View Post

And potentially major IR issues begin around the 400 hour mark as others (myself included) have noted in this thread. Don't assume your set is absolved from the issue, be proactive and watch sports at low contrast settings and/or in Zoom mode.

I watch a lot of NFL. How low do you suggest setting the contrast levels to reduce the chances of IR?

Thanks in advance.
post #8122 of 12327
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Originally Posted by tuffluck View Post

Go search under my name a few months back in this thread. It's an HDMI handshake issue, and the fix is to turn on the devices in a certain order. I did that and the problem never returned.

And potentially major IR issues begin around the 400 hour mark as others (myself included) have noted in this thread. Don't assume your set is absolved from the issue, be proactive and watch sports at low contrast settings and/or in Zoom mode.

Thanks for the response. It's good to have confirmation that it's an HDMI issue. Interestingly, my setup is identical to yours (including the 1713 model Denon). If the problem persists, I'll look into playing with power on sequences with my Harmony remote. The only problem there is that I have always just left the cable box on. For reasons that I've never understood, Comcast's DVR boxes have always required the cable box to be "On" while recording shows, so that attempting to power down results in an "Are you sure you want to power down, I'm recording something right now" type of warning. It's always just been easier to leave it on.

Thanks, also, for the IR warning. I had lots of time, both before purchasing this set and after purchasing but waiting for shipment, to obsess over this thread, so I'm well aware of your (and others') issues with IR. I'm currently using Home Theater setting with Contrast at 65. Does that sound low enough to mitigate IR risks, in most folks opinion? I also try to break up any sports viewing with other full screen content and/or using different aspect formats.
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Originally Posted by ousooner2 View Post


Thanks guys. Appreciate it biggrin.gif I really do love how the WD plays everything I throw at it. I had the Roku first and hated it. Love that the WD can play my FLAC/WAV stuff

LABNEWF, are you running wired with the WD? I've been told that running wired will likely fix my buffering issue with blu-ray's. I've tried to compress them down into a "remux" type file so they'd be a little smaller overall but still have the same audio/video as a blu-ray, but still have buffering. I'll run a Cat6 cable from the router to the WD if that's the solution.




my wd is the live plus it does not have the wifi. I just hook up the hdmi to the tv and the hdd to the wd live plus. Havent had any buffering issues with this set up but if you are streaming over the dlna i would imagine hard wired is faster. Really would depend on the speed of you're internet connection and router throughput speeds. I know from past experience though with a Nas setup there is always a bit of a buffer on hd content. Depending on how many devices are running of you're home network it will def run into buffer and disconnect issues from time to time. I am sure there are a ton of guys on this forum though who have screaming server setups who might help shed a little more light for you .

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post #8124 of 12327
Getting my 60st60 tomorrow.... Feels like Christmas Eve..
post #8125 of 12327
I'm especially excited to see if it can beat my 8g kuro. It easily does on paper but as hard as it is for a physics major to admit numbers don't always tell the whole story.
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I bought this set exclusively for its 2d PQ but searching around I've noticed that it has DNLA. Has anyone had luck connecting a Mac to it? I currently use Apple TV to stream which works fine, but I wouldn't mind if I could just stream straight to the set.
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Originally Posted by bak_phy View Post

I bought this set exclusively for its 2d PQ but searching around I've noticed that it has DNLA. Has anyone had luck connecting a Mac to it? I currently use Apple TV to stream which works fine, but I wouldn't mind if I could just stream straight to the set.

Hi I have the 42'' ST60 and am currently testing the DLNA feature it works great, however I've been having issues with mkv's playing choppy in Serviio and PS3 Media Server, wether this has something to do with the wireless I'm yet to discover but I can say that so far I've tried 1080p and 720p mkv's the same with mp4 and avi. They all play but are choppy to say the least. If anyone can shed any light as to why this might be the case please say.
post #8128 of 12327
I'm hoping someone can drop some knowledge on me - I'm struggling to fully comprehend the hz options on my receiver (Pioneer SC-65) that will soon be hooked up to my 60ST60.

I have option for Pure, 1080i, 1080p, and 1080/24 upscaling. I usually just leave it on 1080p and dial back to 1080i if I'm ever watching 3D from my computer and I run into issues. First off, I'm not even sure if that's the best case scenario and if I'm properly using it to it's fullest potential. I recently tried watching a SBS 3D movie on HBO on demand and noticed a pretty bad stutter (slight shake in everything on screen) when watching 1080i. I dialed up to 1080p/24 and things looked great.

Basically, I'm hoping someone can shed some light on when/where I should be using the different settings for the best effect (2D movies 1080p/24 / 2DCable 1080p??). If I'm way off, please let me know. I'd love to optimize my viewing habits, but can't seem to know whether I'm doing that already or need to switch things up dependng on my source.

Can someone possibly fill in the blanks for me??

2D Movies -- ??
3D Movies -- ??
Cable TV -- ??
2D Bluray -- ??
3D Bluray -- ??

I would be forever grateful -- full disclosure, I've posted a very similar note in the BenQ W1070 forum as that's what I'm currently watching / experiencing these issues with.
post #8129 of 12327
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Originally Posted by JJMiller View Post

Weird problem with new 60ST60. So, I've had the set for about 10 days now. Twice, the TV has been turned on and the picture has a completely pink hue (source is cable box over HDMI, BTW). I'm not talking slightly reddish skin tones. I mean I can see the image, but the whole picture is pink, almost like an old CRT where one or more of the guns is not working. I turn the set off and then back on, and the picture is fine.

What do folks think? Could this be an HDMI synching issue? Would you be concerned about this? Other that those weird issues, the set is perfect: fantastic picture, no audible hum, no IR in 120+ hours of use (including plenty of sports with static graphics). I'd hate to swap it out and take a chance on a panel that does have minor issues.

Had that happen on my old Samsung plasma before I got my Panasonic--it was a HDMI issue with mine.
post #8130 of 12327
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Originally Posted by hoosierdsddie View Post

. With shopping season coming up, good luck with that journey.
Yes in deed. I wonder what 32" units will be this year, no name models where $149 at times........lol, amazing days.
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