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@Bond 007:   I'm using the regular slim series Redmere's on my longer projector runs but I haven't seen a lot of great reviews on the ultra slims.  Of course, that was on longer runs and for this application I only need about 6ft.  Good point though about the weight as I guess I haven't really solved the strain issue with the port saver adapter.  My cable does stick out past the screen though as I think it's an older 24AWG also from monoprice.
I got a 6ft for portable use with my laptop and a lot of people here use them. I havent noticed any complaints.
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Is anybody using an HDMI port saver adapter with their ST60?  I've got a pretty thick HDMI cable and I'm thinking I should probably get one to avoid putting too much strain on the port.  Can anyone confirm if I need the 90 or 270 degree version if I want the cable plugging in from the bottom?  I suppose I could confirm when I get home but wanted to put the order in today if possible:

Is it the flat left orflat right version?

I've got 2 thick cables connected to my TV, one of them is 50' if you've seen how thick they are, no problems. The sockets have outside casings that are typically soldered to the board with large solder connections to keep the socket from being damaged. From my experience the cable end will break before the socket. As long as you don't trip over the cable or something they should be fine.
Edited by samijubal - 11/19/13 at 2:47pm
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Frys is out of stock everywhere.
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I'm really glad I took delivery a month ago, even if I didn't aggressively pursue price match. I'm loving the TV, and would hate to be stressing about getting a unit during the mad rush leading up to Xmas.
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anyone notice the YouTube app dropping sound? picture keeps going but the sound stops. it is buffered plenty.
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Hi all, a question for anyone who knows:

I currently have an ST30 that I bought a few years ago and am thinking about upgrading since Panasonic is scrapping its plasma line. I know that the ST60 series is a better set all the way around, but in terms of real life viewing, am I going to notice an immediate difference?

Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by jkasanic View Post

Is anybody using an HDMI port saver adapter with their ST60?  I've got a pretty thick HDMI cable and I'm thinking I should probably get one to avoid putting too much strain on the port.  Can anyone confirm if I need the 90 or 270 degree version if I want the cable plugging in from the bottom?  I suppose I could confirm when I get home but wanted to put the order in today if possible:

I use two Monoprice #3850 right angle adapters on each HDMI cable to re-direct them flat against the back of the TV (did this with my G10, GT50, and now with my ST60). I also use them on my Surround Sound Receiver, Tivo, TWC DVR, my PC monitor, and even on my Darbee wink.gif

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1397245/official-panasonic-st50-series-discussion-thread-no-street-price-talk/8190#post_22794266


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Originally Posted by 84CubsFan View Post

Hi all, a question for anyone who knows:

I currently have an ST30 that I bought a few years ago and am thinking about upgrading since Panasonic is scrapping its plasma line. I know that the ST60 series is a better set all the way around, but in terms of real life viewing, am I going to notice an immediate difference?

Any thoughts would be helpful. Thanks.

I had an ST30 also and to me the PQ looks even more amazing than the great ST30. Granted I upgraded from a 42" to a 50". If I was going from a 50" to a 50" I would probably hesitate but it's hard to not pay attention to all the great reviews this set is getting.
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Originally Posted by sparkbass View Post

After running the panel prep slides for 100 hours, I used D-Nice's settings on Custom and CNET's settings on Cinema. After all of the anticipation over the D-Nice setup, I'm finding that I actually prefer the CNET settings. The Custom screen under D-Nice is darker, and skin tones seem almost greenish to me. I'm thinking I may get a professional calibration later on. What have others experienced?

I thought D Nice settings where perfect, I found Cnets added a blue hint.

That's because both of your TVs started with different color deficiencies to begin with, and plugging in someone else's settings that were derived to fix that person's TV has no relation to your own TV. If you copy settings from a TV that is very red and lacking in green, and your TV is already a little too green, using those settings that fix weak green will exacerbate your too-green problem.

Your best bet to closest to an accurate picture is to use default settings (Custom/Cinema), and use some test patterns to dial in your brightness(black level) and contrast (white level). Short of getting a professional calibration done, anyway. biggrin.gif

See the links in my signature for the "science" behind this, since this is the AV Science forum after all... wink.gif
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Originally Posted by walk1355 View Post

Just called amazon. I purchased my P60ST60 7 days ago for $1439.99 from amazon. When I called I mentioned that frys had the tv on sale and he immediately knew what I was talking about. He gave me some policy crap saying they can only match up to 20% off the amazon purchase price. I couldn't find this policy anywhere. Either way he refunded me the 20% making my total purchase price for the tv $1,151.88. I am still happy with the $280+ in savings.


All i can say is be persistent. After about ten emails back and forth of me being an unhappy customer I've now paid $967 for my p60. I was always curteous, but just kept saying I thought it was unacceptable to treat me differently than other customers. Good luck.
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Can we put the price talk where it belongs ?
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I just purchase the P60ST60, I'm looking for a thin tilting wall mount. I would like your recommendations for good quality brand and which brands to stay away from. Also, I'm not sure if paying $100+ is necessary. I have two models that I'm thinking about.

 

-Mount-it MI-318B

-Sanus UMPL50A-B1

 

Thanks

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Originally Posted by RandyWalters View Post

I use two Monoprice #3850 right angle adapters on each HDMI cable to re-direct them flat against the back of the TV (did this with my G10, GT50, and now with my ST60). I also use them on my Surround Sound Receiver, Tivo, TWC DVR, my PC monitor, and even on my Darbee wink.gif
I am definitely ordering a pair of those for my set to keep my Monoprice cable from looping out the side of the TV! Thanks for pointing them out!
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That's because both of your TVs started with different color deficiencies to begin with, and plugging in someone else's settings that were derived to fix that person's TV has no relation to your own TV. If you copy settings from a TV that is very red and lacking in green, and your TV is already a little too green, using those settings that fix weak green will exacerbate your too-green problem.

Your best bet to closest to an accurate picture is to use default settings (Custom/Cinema), and use some test patterns to dial in your brightness(black level) and contrast (white level). Short of getting a professional calibration done, anyway. biggrin.gif

See the links in my signature for the "science" behind this, since this is the AV Science forum after all... wink.gif

Thanks for the links. Although I didn't at first, I now appreciate that the variability between individual panels is significant enough to render the use of third-party calibration settings totally (or at least partially) worthless. In spite of that, these recommended settings seem to be treated as gospel by a lot of people, including many on this forum. I don't doubt that D-Nice did a good job calibrating his own set, but it just seemed kind of weird to me that he's become something of an Internet celebrity for publicly posting his settings. Anyway, I figured I had nothing to lose plugging in someone else's values and seeing if the results were pleasing to my eye.

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Originally Posted by Bruuce View Post

I had an ST30 also and to me the PQ looks even more amazing than the great ST30. Granted I upgraded from a 42" to a 50". If I was going from a 50" to a 50" I would probably hesitate but it's hard to not pay attention to all the great reviews this set is getting.

I'm thinking of upgrading from a 50" ST30 to a 60" ST60, but I won't do it if I'm not going to see a whole lot of real-life difference. Hmm.
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Do you guys recommend running the slides for 100 hours as listed in D-Nice thread? Would it be okay to run the TV for 100 hours?
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I never used any slides on my st60. I have just over 100 hrs. on it now but have only watched full screen hd content with minimal espn/cnn scrolling text and will continue this practice for another 100 or so. I really don't see the need for the slide thing, if it was required panasonic would say so.
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Originally Posted by 84CubsFan View Post

I'm thinking of upgrading from a 50" ST30 to a 60" ST60, but I won't do it if I'm not going to see a whole lot of real-life difference. Hmm.
Many people have said the difference is very noticeable.
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Its not all good at least on my set, I have a very annoying green skin tone issue that seems to be resistant even to professional calibration. Right now I would rate the color ahead on the ST30 because of that issue.
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Hi All,

Enjoying this new set (60ST60) but was wondering if there was a way to Zoom while using the Netflix and Amazon Apps in the Vierra connect. I don't want those black bars while I'm watching a movie especially during the break-in period. I have a receiver with all my sources (Direct Tv, Playstation, and Dvd/Dvr) going into the receiver and a single Hdmi going from the receiver to Hdmi 2 on the Panny and the Zoom function works fine on the TV as well as through the receiver, but using the Apps on the TV the Zoom function seems disabled. Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by Chatoboy View Post

Hi All,

Enjoying this new set (60ST60) but was wondering if there was a way to Zoom while using the Netflix and Amazon Apps in the Vierra connect. I don't want those black bars while I'm watching a movie especially during the break-in period. I have a receiver with all my sources (Direct Tv, Playstation, and Dvd/Dvr) going into the receiver and a single Hdmi going from the receiver to Hdmi 2 on the Panny and the Zoom function works fine on the TV as well as through the receiver, but using the Apps on the TV the Zoom function seems disabled. Any thoughts?
The Aspect button does nothing with the ST60 apps. If the Playstation has apps it will work with those.
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Originally Posted by Vlad2010 View Post

Do you guys recommend running the slides for 100 hours as listed in D-Nice thread? Would it be okay to run the TV for 100 hours?

I believe the slides are used to age the panel evenly so that you can get it calibrated (professionally) or to get the most out of his posted settings if you plan on using his. You don't have to use the slide at all. Just watch full aspect ratio contents and you will be fine. The slides do not help with IR or Burn-in. I have ran the slides and I get IR even if I have the Panasonic menu on for just a few seconds.
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Originally Posted by Bond 007 View Post

The Aspect button does nothing with the ST60 apps. If the Playstation has apps it will work with those.

Yes, you are correct I could use the Playstation, but I wonder why they chose to disable the Aspect button for the Apps? It would be so much simpler to use the Apps with Netflix and with the ARC function sending the sound back to my receiver it sounds great! A little dissapointed about this....
Edited by Chatoboy - 11/20/13 at 10:43am
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My 2010 TC-P50G25 died in October and I replaced it with a 2013 TC-P50ST60. The upgrade was very noticeable to me with the difference in black level being the most prominent. I’m glad the old TV died now. =)
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Originally Posted by Jakes View Post

My 2010 TC-P50G25 died in October and I replaced it with a 2013 TC-P50ST60. The upgrade was very noticeable to me with the difference in black level being the most prominent. I’m glad the old TV died now. =)

did your old set have THX? do you wish you stil lhad thx on the new set? or because since there is so much difference that it doesnt matter? I own the gt25 which has THX. I would like to upgrade to the st60. do you mind if I ask how your tv died? seems a bit quick. I have heard some tvs last a long time.

Jacob
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Not using the slides but rather just letting it play hours of full screen content without logos, scrollers etc No static content. So far there is about 30 hours on it
Yesterday it was all concert dvds, today I have fired up a Night Stalker marathon.

This tv looks great with both blu-ray and old SD dvd content. I am super impressed with the skin tones.
No adjustments made except to turn off C.A.T.S and the motion Smoother and set the brightness to below 50. Have been going between Cinema & Standard picture too.
Also watching sports on the CRT only.

No problem with glare whatsoever in my bright living room night or day. Very, very happy we chose this model.


When i shut it off at night I have not seen any sign of IR smile.gif Hope I'm doing this right
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Originally Posted by Jacob305 View Post

did your old set have THX? do you wish you stil lhad thx on the new set? or because since there is so much difference that it doesnt matter? I own the gt25 which has THX. I would like to upgrade to the st60. do you mind if I ask how your tv died? seems a bit quick. I have heard some tvs last a long time.

Jacob

My old set (2010 TC-P50G25) did have the THX mode, however, I never really used it after playing with it a little after purchase. I found THX to be far too dim for my taste and viewing environment. I ended up using the aging slides for the full 100 hours and plugging in the D-Nice settings for that TV at the time. I was pleased with the picture, but never wowed by it. The new panel (2013 TC-P50ST60) is much nicer than the old in overall picture quality (black level specifically is noticeable better), functionality and frame design. I never liked the shape and amount of frame on the 2010 TC-P50G25. There was too much frame and the “lip” at the bottom was ugly. The 2013 TC-P50ST60 has a much nicer minimalist frame design if that matters to you.

The 2010 TC-P50G25 just died one day when I shut it off. There was an audible pop much louder than normal and the red light was blinking four times. After a power cycle disconnect/reconnect of all cords the red light was blinking ten times. The panel was babied. It was hung on the wall and never touched after initial setup. I sure thought (and hoped!) it would last a lot longer than 3.5 years, but what can you do? The 2013 TC-P50ST60 was available at a great price and I was happy to upgrade anyway. FWIW, I do still have a 2006 Panasonic TH-50PHD8UK (commercial panel) in use in my house and it looks as great as the day I bought it, though not as good as the 2013 TC-P50ST60.
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Originally Posted by rushfan2112 View Post

Not using the slides but rather just letting it play hours of full screen content without logos, scrollers etc No static content. So far there is about 30 hours on it
Yesterday it was all concert dvds, today I have fired up a Night Stalker marathon.

This tv looks great with both blu-ray and old SD dvd content. I am super impressed with the skin tones.
No adjustments made except to turn off C.A.T.S and the motion Smoother and set the brightness to below 50. Have been going between Cinema & Standard picture too.
Also watching sports on the CRT only.

No problem with glare whatsoever in my bright living room night or day. Very, very happy we chose this model.


When i shut it off at night I have not seen any sign of IR smile.gif Hope I'm doing this right
You are fine.
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Originally Posted by rushfan2112 View Post

Not using the slides but rather just letting it play hours of full screen content without logos, scrollers etc No static content. So far there is about 30 hours on it
Yesterday it was all concert dvds, today I have fired up a Night Stalker marathon.

This tv looks great with both blu-ray and old SD dvd content. I am super impressed with the skin tones.
No adjustments made except to turn off C.A.T.S and the motion Smoother and set the brightness to below 50. Have been going between Cinema & Standard picture too.
Also watching sports on the CRT only.

No problem with glare whatsoever in my bright living room night or day. Very, very happy we chose this model.


When i shut it off at night I have not seen any sign of IR smile.gif Hope I'm doing this right

If all you're watching is Blu-rays and DVDs, you might want to turn off the noise reduction which I think is set to mid by default.
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Originally Posted by Jakes View Post

My old set (2010 TC-P50G25) did have the THX mode, however, I never really used it after playing with it a little after purchase. I found THX to be far too dim for my taste and viewing environment. I ended up using the aging slides for the full 100 hours and plugging in the D-Nice settings for that TV at the time. I was pleased with the picture, but never wowed by it. The new panel (2013 TC-P50ST60) is much nicer than the old in overall picture quality (black level specifically is noticeable better), functionality and frame design. I never liked the shape and amount of frame on the 2010 TC-P50G25. There was too much frame and the “lip” at the bottom was ugly. The 2013 TC-P50ST60 has a much nicer minimalist frame design if that matters to you.

The 2010 TC-P50G25 just died one day when I shut it off. There was an audible pop much louder than normal and the red light was blinking four times. After a power cycle disconnect/reconnect of all cords the red light was blinking ten times. The panel was babied. It was hung on the wall and never touched after initial setup. I sure thought (and hoped!) it would last a lot longer than 3.5 years, but what can you do? The 2013 TC-P50ST60 was available at a great price and I was happy to upgrade anyway. FWIW, I do still have a 2006 Panasonic TH-50PHD8UK (commercial panel) in use in my house and it looks as great as the day I bought it, though not as good as the 2013 TC-P50ST60.


thank you for the response.

Jacob
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