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My ST60 is arriving today. (Woo!) Can anyone point out what I should look for in terms of damage upon arrival, while the delivery folks are still present?

Thanks,

Dan
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Hello all....am new to this forum.  Picked up a Samsung UN60F7100 lcd four days ago.  First two and half days were great, thought I hit the lottery after reading how many problems these lcd led TV's have.  Well....now I have severe light bleeding from all four corners, semi-dark and dark content is impossible to watch, just too distracting.  So I just ordered the Panasonic VIERA TC-P60ST60.  I was very close to getting this set originally, but was, and still am concerned about ir and/or burn-in.  Any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated...do I need a break-in disc...how to avoid ir and burn-in....am not a gamer so that is not a concern to me.  thanks in advance.

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Will the pixel flipper on the Disney wow calibration disc work as a break-in disc?  thanks.

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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

My ST60 is arriving today. (Woo!) Can anyone point out what I should look for in terms of damage upon arrival, while the delivery folks are still present?

Thanks,

Dan



Congrats Dan! Look for damage to the box, and if it's damaged look near the damaged part of the box. Mine was in perfect condition via a freight company shipped from Paul's TV. If it's shipped freight they will wait till you unbox it, hopefully. It only takes a couple of minutes to check. Best of luck!
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Originally Posted by srg914 View Post

Hello all....am new to this forum.  Picked up a Samsung UN60F7100 lcd four days ago.  First two and half days were great, thought I hit the lottery after reading how many problems these lcd led TV's have.  Well....now I have severe light bleeding from all four corners, semi-dark and dark content is impossible to watch, just too distracting.  So I just ordered the Panasonic VIERA TC-P60ST60.  I was very close to getting this set originally, but was, and still am concerned about ir and/or burn-in.  Any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated...do I need a break-in disc...how to avoid ir and burn-in....am not a gamer so that is not a concern to me.  thanks in advance.



First off congrats. I've had the exact same panel as you for a couple of weeks and thought I only had about 120 hours on it but there is 206 hours on it. You'll find many opinions on this but all I did was keep changing my viewing content up. I watched as much full screen as possible (HBO HD is perfect there's no bars or logos) and used the sidecut zoom for non full screen channels, and to get rid of the banners on sports and news channels. I'm going to be careful for another 100 hours or so, but I've had zero IR, not even a hint of it. There are other methods like the slides if you just want to let it play for 100 and not have to worry. I just felt I could do it without a problem and so far so good. Some say to keep the contrast down, but I didn't, although I admit I turned it down to 50 since I heard that. YMMV.
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post

Congrats Dan! Look for damage to the box, and if it's damaged look near the damaged part of the box. Mine was in perfect condition via a freight company shipped from Paul's TV. If it's shipped freight they will wait till you unbox it, hopefully. It only takes a couple of minutes to check. Best of luck!

Thanks. Came freight from Paul's too. Box and screen and back look great. Only thing we couldn't figure out how to power it on! Is there a button on this thing? (LOL). No seriously, how do I turn it on without digging out the remote?
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Originally Posted by rushfan2112 View Post

I just read a review on Amazon for the Samsung SSG-5100GB that are $17.99 a pair from an ST60 owner who said these glasses work great with this model tv and they also fit his grand kids well.

I gotta pick up 3 pair now smile.gif

Oh and please let us know how your samsung glasses work . Which model # did you buy BTW?

I like that there is a relatively inexpensive alternative. It is just too scary to imagine my nephews as well as my big, ol' slug of a brother with their paws all over those Panny glasses biggrin.gif

The Samsung glasses work. I use the 4100s but the 5100s work also.
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Am I taking crazy pills? Does this TV really only read FAT32 formatted drives?

Also, is anyone running a Synology Diskstation running media server DLNA? Can you get it to talk to the ST60? Won't work for me. I am wondering if this has to do with my port forwarding setup for remote access to the server. Spoke with Panasonic. Apparently the TV utilizes ports 80, 443 (really, https and http?) and 48705. Seems odd. Forwarding those to my server still doesn't work. Regardless, I'll end up using a WDTV anyway.

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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

Thanks. Came freight from Paul's too. Box and screen and back look great. Only thing we couldn't figure out how to power it on! Is there a button on this thing? (LOL). No seriously, how do I turn it on without digging out the remote?

On the lower right side in back you'll feel some keys, it's the bottom one.
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Originally Posted by Dan__ View Post

Thanks. Came freight from Paul's too. Box and screen and back look great. Only thing we couldn't figure out how to power it on! Is there a button on this thing? (LOL). No seriously, how do I turn it on without digging out the remote?

Check out page 17 of the manual for more about this (sorry about PQ, cellphone pic):
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Originally Posted by comfynumb View Post


First off congrats. I've had the exact same panel as you for a couple of weeks and thought I only had about 120 hours on it but there is 206 hours on it. You'll find many opinions on this but all I did was keep changing my viewing content up. I watched as much full screen as possible (HBO HD is perfect there's no bars or logos) and used the sidecut zoom for non full screen channels, and to get rid of the banners on sports and news channels. I'm going to be careful for another 100 hours or so, but I've had zero IR, not even a hint of it. There are other methods like the slides if you just want to let it play for 100 and not have to worry. I just felt I could do it without a problem and so far so good. Some say to keep the contrast down, but I didn't, although I admit I turned it down to 50 since I heard that. YMMV.

Thanks for the response!  Great to hear your positive feedback...I should have gone with this tv the first time but live and learn.  Amazon will pick up the pos Samsung and deliver the new one...no shipping costs to me.

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Originally Posted by srg914 View Post

Thanks for the response!  Great to hear your positive feedback...I should have gone with this tv the first time but live and learn.  Amazon will pick up the pos Samsung and deliver the new one...no shipping costs to me.



Your welcome. I lived with an LG LCD for a few years, until I started noticing light bleeding from the edges. You'll find this panel much better. Glad to hear Amazon took care of you, they are good like that.
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Just got my TC-P65ST60 today, upgrading from a TH-42PD50U (42" EDTV Plasma).

Running D-Nice slides now. Really want to watch some movies and whatnot but trying to decide if it's worth doing that instead of just running slides to age it evenly. I'd only be watching maybe 3–4 hours a day and slides the rest so it'd come out to around 80hrs slides 20hrs content). Either way, this is a HUGE upgrade so I'm extremely excited.
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Asking for some opinions. With the recent price drop on the 60VT60 on Amazon ($1749 plus 2% rewards) I was thinking of returning the ST60 back I received last week. I was lucky to pick it up with the $997 price match. I am thinking though that the $717 net difference between the two is better spent on upgrading the speakers and maybe a new blu-ray player that can handle 3D in my set up. I currently have the Take Classic 5.0 set with a Bic F-12 powered by a Pioneer 919-AHK with a Sony BDP-S350 player.

First, is the 60VT60 worth $700 more than the 60ST60 in PQ? I will not be gaming on the TV so the input lag is not important to me and really can't see myself using skype through the TV with the camera that comes with the VT.

Second, on a limited budget, do you think the $700 is better spent on other components than upgrading the TV?

I know this is highly subjective, just curious what others think. Always have received great advice reading these forums.
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I would stick with what you have and either invest the difference in other av equipment or even a professional calibration. IMO it is not work the $700 dollars if that is stretching your budget. The 60" ST60 at that price is a steal !!
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Originally Posted by kkirsche View Post

Just got my TC-P65ST60 today, upgrading from a TH-42PD50U (42" EDTV Plasma).

Running D-Nice slides now. Really want to watch some movies and whatnot but trying to decide if it's worth doing that instead of just running slides to age it evenly. I'd only be watching maybe 3–4 hours a day and slides the rest so it'd come out to around 80hrs slides 20hrs content). Either way, this is a HUGE upgrade so I'm extremely excited.

I aged my set by watching normal content during the day and running slides at night. The DNICE settings are still hit and miss for a lot of owners.
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Originally Posted by chunon View Post

I would stick with what you have and either invest the difference in other av equipment or even a professional calibration. IMO it is not work the $700 dollars if that is stretching your budget. The 60" ST60 at that price is a steal !!



+1 I would take $400 of the $700 saved and buy some room treatments if I didn't already have them. That $400 IMO is worth more than any upgrade wink.gif
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Any recommendations for a break-in (slides) disc?  Am new to the world of plasma...thx.

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Originally Posted by samijubal View Post

On the lower right side in back you'll feel some keys, it's the bottom one.

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Originally Posted by kkirsche View Post

Check out page 17 of the manual for more about this (sorry about PQ, cellphone pic):

Woot! Powers on! No dents, no cracks. Lookin good! Thanks guys!
post #9770 of 12344
Getting my 60st60 thurs and can't wait. Decided not to do slides. Too big a hassle so just gonna gently use full screen content. Keep the contrast and brightness low but can't find a channel without static logos or images. Any suggestions? After I baby it for a 100 hrs or so I'm gonna use the Disney disc and use settings from cnet to see what I like. Sound like a good plan?
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^^^
Congrats. HBO HD if you have it.
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Originally Posted by KylanD View Post

Getting my 60st60 thurs and can't wait. Decided not to do slides. Too big a hassle so just gonna gently use full screen content. Keep the contrast and brightness low but can't find a channel without static logos or images. Any suggestions? After I baby it for a 100 hrs or so I'm gonna use the Disney disc and use settings from cnet to see what I like. Sound like a good plan?

I think HBO might be your best bet for the least amount of station logos. You will get the HBO logo during some show promos in between programming, but it goes away during programming from what I've seen. I was worried about station logos at first with my 60VT60 but after a couple of days I just didn't care any more. I don't game, watch CNN or hours upon hours of sports and from what I gather it's those kinds of watching habits that have the majority of IR complaints.

I've been watching lots of shows with station logos and find the majority of them are now a bit transparent. I know History Channel has a solid image logo, but I don't watch alot of that channel.
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Originally Posted by srg914 View Post

Any recommendations for a break-in (slides) disc?  Am new to the world of plasma...thx.

download the file from here: http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=939

In Windows I extracted the file. Opened the folder and copied and pasted the 12 or so images onto a blank flash drive. Plugged the flash drive into the TV and ran slides. Easy Peasy.

Have a gander at my take on the fun and fanciful world of newbies owning a Plasma: http://www.avsforum.com/t/949107/master-burn-in-ir-break-in-thread-part-ii-all-posts-here-only/4740#post_23867110

Enjoy your new set.
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Getting my 65ST60 delivered Wednesday, can't wait! Will most likely do movies/sports during the day and slides at night/work.

Hey chunon, go Bucks baby! Just in time for the B1G title game.
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Thanks guys for the info' also hooking it up HDMI to a ps3. Any special settings on the ps3 I should look at? For 3D I'm setting to 96 on the tv
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Originally Posted by KylanD View Post

Thanks guys for the info' also hooking it up HDMI to a ps3. Any special settings on the ps3 I should look at? For 3D I'm setting to 96 on the tv



Most set their players to bitstream with the secondary audio off, to make sure you get DTS and TrueHD audio on BD. I don't have a ps3 but I'm assuming there's a secondary audio setting.
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Originally Posted by Chere View Post

I posted this in the VT60 thread but since my question implies to overall video processing I thought that I could get some feedback from ST60 owners as well.

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'Upgraditis seems to have struck me as well as I have for no reason that makes sense decided to go to the 65VT60 from my current 65ST50.

Well for one minor but very important reason only:

Last year's 50 series plasmas were horrendous in de-interlacing, scaling and video processing 720p and 1080i tv content. Posterization and soft OTA tv content led me to retreat to the bedroom to my 3 year old sammy C6500 plasma which made it seem like a kuro compared when watching my favorite tv shows.

My ST50 was calibrated by D-Nice and everything else especially blu ray was top notch with nary a hint of problems at all.


Will the VT60 do me proud when it comes to 720p and 1080i OTA tv content or am I expecting too much here? I'm assuming better black levels and improved (brighter) 3D blu ray playback are other things I can look forward to?

Thanks!'



If there are any ST/GT/VT 50 owners out there that have upgraded to the ST/ VT 60 this year- I would love to hear your thoughts.

Have you thought about buying a new AVR with better scaling or an outboard scaler? The new Oppo bluray players have great scaling and an HDMI-In to scale an external device like a cable stb as well.
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Originally Posted by absurd_username View Post


download the file from here: http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=939

In Windows I extracted the file. Opened the folder and copied and pasted the 12 or so images onto a blank flash drive. Plugged the flash drive into the TV and ran slides. Easy Peasy.

Have a gander at my take on the fun and fanciful world of newbies owning a Plasma: http://www.avsforum.com/t/949107/master-burn-in-ir-break-in-thread-part-ii-all-posts-here-only/4740#post_23867110

Enjoy your new set.

Thanks very much!

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Thanks comfy! Yeah just wasnt sure about the video settings. Got me a new av receiver coming with the tv to replace my old one so I can do 3D!
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Originally Posted by KylanD View Post

Thanks comfy! Yeah just wasnt sure about the video settings. Got me a new av receiver coming with the tv to replace my old one so I can do 3D!



Yw, cool whatcha get Kylan?
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