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post #1741 of 1798
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Originally Posted by saprano View Post

I'm not seeing the direct post you linked.

Sorry about that--I'm not sure what happened there. The post is here.
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Anyway, i don't think i like that UI. I just got home and haven't used Netflix yet so i'll see if it works ok. Still, they need to stop changing it so damn much. It's not good. As soon as you get use to one version they go and change the whole thing.

I might tend to agree. I'm not sure that I love these changes, functionally, though they are attractive.
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Yes the sub genres is what i was referring to.I loved that feature. It sure seemed like they had the entire library. Literally hundreds of titles per genre to choose from.

250 max, so yes, technically hundreds smile.gif. No matter that it wasn't the entire library (which averages around 12,000 titles) it was a whole lot more than we can see in the current UI with its 75 titles max in a lot fewer genres. You could also drill down into a genre/subgenre and see 10 cover thumbs at a time (you can see some pictures of that UI here).
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The movie images are too small now too

They're not as tall as they were but they are wider. The spacing seems OK to me but not any improvement.

This UI is supposedly rolling out to Roku 3 starting today. For that platform this is a massive improvement over what there was before, if it works properly.
Edited by michaeltscott - 11/14/13 at 8:17pm
post #1742 of 1798
Noticed after watching a few programs that post play on the PS3 (which I hate BTW) stops working. After quitting the app and going into it started to work again. Wish I can turn it off for good.
post #1743 of 1798
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Noticed after watching a few programs that post play on the PS3 (which I hate BTW) stops working. After quitting the app and going into it started to work again. Wish I can turn it off for good.

It always stopped to ask you about playing a third episode. It wouldn't just keep auto-playing episode after episode until it got to the end of the series.

I just noticed a bug with that. I used the old sitcom Dinosaurs to check. If a series didn't have an establishing scene before the opening titles, auto-start used to successfully skip those titles, bringing you immediately into the episode. For Dinosaurs it skipped the first 35 seconds of a 55 second title sequence. It could just be that series. EDIT: I tried Phineas and Ferb and it successfully skipped that title sequence except for the last second.
Edited by michaeltscott - 11/14/13 at 9:09pm
post #1744 of 1798
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Originally Posted by aaronwt View Post

For Netflix, the DIstribution center is around 30 miles from me and I have one day turnarounds.. For 3D Blu-ray Rental, they are located on the West Coast.


I'm glad I don't need to watch 3D!



Ian biggrin.gif
post #1745 of 1798
PQ has gotten much better for me the last couple days. I've found that that "example short" will now ramp up to 3850 pretty quickly and reliably (even on Saturday night) but will never go to 5800. Works for me.
post #1746 of 1798
I have been experimenting with my WD TV Live the last couple weeks. It is far better than the WD TV Play which I have returned.

My problem is that I when I choose the 480p output in the WD it reverts to Auto. I can select 720p and 1080p and see that it has been selected as the output in the WD menu, but whenever I chose 480p the menu shows Auto and the output is 1080p as shown by my outboard scaler.

For Netflix streaming, where the source is 480p SD, I would like the WD to output 480p so that I can see if my scaler does a better job than the WD, but the WD is not cooperating.

I contacted WD support but all they did was tell me to reset the unit.

Has anyone with a WD TV Live been able to select 480p as the output?
post #1747 of 1798
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Originally Posted by GGA View Post

I have been experimenting with my WD TV Live the last couple weeks. It is far better than the WD TV Play which I have returned.

My problem is that I when I choose the 480p output in the WD it reverts to Auto. I can select 720p and 1080p and see that it has been selected as the output in the WD menu, but whenever I chose 480p the menu shows Auto and the output is 1080p as shown by my outboard scaler.

For Netflix streaming, where the source is 480p SD, I would like the WD to output 480p so that I can see if my scaler does a better job than the WD, but the WD is not cooperating.

I contacted WD support but all they did was tell me to reset the unit.

Has anyone with a WD TV Live been able to select 480p as the output?

You also have to turn off the Auto setting for the 480p resolution to take.
post #1748 of 1798
How do I turn off the Auto setting?

When I go to the A/V settings there is drop down menu that allow me to select Auto, 480p, 720p, 1080p, etc etc. When I select 720p the menu will display 720p. When I select 480p the menu displays Auto instead of 480p. Really do not understand what is going on.
post #1749 of 1798
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Originally Posted by GGA View Post

How do I turn off the Auto setting?

When I go to the A/V settings there is drop down menu that allow me to select Auto, 480p, 720p, 1080p, etc etc. When I select 720p the menu will display 720p. When I select 480p the menu displays Auto instead of 480p. Really do not understand what is going on.

Click repeatedly on the Auto button (3 times I think) until you get to the screen that lets you set it to on or off.
post #1750 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

Click repeatedly on the Auto button (3 times I think) until you get to the screen that lets you set it to on or off.

All this does is take you to the window that offers Frame Rate Matching, which you can set to On or Off as a sub setting for Auto. The main window still states Auto. Frame rate matching is very different from what I am trying to do.

I can actually set the output to 576, 720, 1080, everything but 480. Very strange to me.
post #1751 of 1798
michaeltscott, it looks like Netflix has designed a UI specifically for Xbox One-

http://www.behance.net/gallery/Netflix-on-Xbox-One/12123323

I gotta say it looks good. Usually they design mostly for PS3 don't they? Since it's the most used device. Microsoft must have told them to keep the look and functions of Windows 8.
post #1752 of 1798
Yeah--we have discussed the new Xbox One player in another thread, here.

For the last few years they've been trying to standardize on the HTML5/Webkit player which first appeared on the PS3 (this); they generally tested new features of it out on the PS3 and the PS3 still has one feature that none of the others have (a weird little quiz "game" called "Max"). The Xbox always had its own version, the most recent of which could be controlled with voice and gesture via 360 Kinect. A couple of weeks ago they introduced a replacement for that old HTML5/Webkit player and seemed to have dumped Webkit for a layout/rendering engine of their own design, optimized to the needs of their player (see their blog post about the player) though the player is still written in JavaScript and other web authoring languages. Of the things I have with Netflix players, the PS3, Roku 3, TiVo Roamio and Xbox 360 got this new player. On the Xbox it can be controlled with Kinect voice commands, but not gestures.

Given this, I was kind of shocked to see that the Xbox One player was something different. As I noted in that other thread, the Xbox One player can play the 1080p Netflix video encodes (3850-, 4300- and 5800 Kbps), which the Xbox 360's player arbitrarily cannot (no video source on the 360 is allowed to output 1080p except Xbox Video and VUDU and when the VUDU player first appeared, it couldn't). The Xbox One's player can be controlled with both voice and gesture.
post #1753 of 1798
I watched "Mrs. Fisher's Mysteries" in SuperHD last night and it looks fantastic, better than many Blu-rays.
post #1754 of 1798
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Originally Posted by audiomagnate View Post

I watched "Mrs. Fisher's Mysteries" in SuperHD last night and it looks fantastic, better than many Blu-rays.
I don't doubt some Netflix transfers look better than a few blu-rays out there, but let's not overstate things. While nice, SuperHD doesn't make all that much of a difference. Netflix is still sending heavily compressed video and I'll prefer a Blu-Ray source to it every time (If I'm not too lazy to get off the couch to put one in wink.gif). I did watch one of those BBC documentaries on Netflix (Nature's Most Amazing Events) though, and it did look quite impressive.
post #1755 of 1798
Anybody else having lip sync issues on PS3?
post #1756 of 1798
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

I don't doubt some Netflix transfers look better than a few blu-rays out there, but let's not overstate things. While nice, SuperHD doesn't make all that much of a difference. Netflix is still sending heavily compressed video and I'll prefer a Blu-Ray source to it every time (If I'm not too lazy to get off the couch to put one in wink.gif). I did watch one of those BBC documentaries on Netflix (Nature's Most Amazing Events) though, and it did look quite impressive.

Agree not Blu-Ray quality but I have been pleasantly surprised by some recent Netflix Super HD encodes (Arrow, Europa Report, Skyfall, Pirates of the Caribbean all come to mind).

They seem better than earlier Super HD encodes - which had poor black level / shadow detail. I am almost at the point where I would prefer a good Super HD encode to DirecTV of the same show.
post #1757 of 1798
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Originally Posted by undecided View Post

Agree not Blu-Ray quality but I have been pleasantly surprised by some recent Netflix Super HD encodes (Arrow, Europa Report, Skyfall, Pirates of the Caribbean all come to mind).

They seem better than earlier Super HD encodes - which had poor black level / shadow detail. I am almost at the point where I would prefer a good Super HD encode to DirecTV of the same show.

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries actually looks quite a bit better than Skyfall (Netflix version) to my eyes. It was shot with the Sony CineAlta SRW9000 camcorder. Black levels are the best I've seen on Netflix, and everything else just looks right to me. There aren't a lot of explosions of fast action, so I'm sure that helps. The SuperHD vesion of Skyfall really falls apart during those types of scenes. If you haven't seen it, give it a try. The production values look through the roof to me. Oh, and she drives a Hispano-Suiza!
post #1758 of 1798
So Netflix 3D is kaput? mad.gif Thanks, Reed.

What gets me is that Netflix limited the number of devices that could access its 3D programming and then had the gall to claim that its 3D programming was unpopular! Well, no sh!t, Sherlock. When people cannot access the programs, i guess, by definition, that makes those programs unpopular. rolleyes.gif

It's amazing that there isn't a legit competition to Netflix with all the missteps.
post #1759 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Apostate View Post

...Netflix limited the number of devices that could access its 3D programming and then had the gall to claim that its 3D programming was unpopular!

Netflix couldn't force any OEM to update the Netflix players on their devices.

Glasses-required 3D has just about played out as a fad.
post #1760 of 1798
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Originally Posted by audiomagnate View Post

Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries actually looks quite a bit better than Skyfall (Netflix version) to my eyes. It was shot with the Sony CineAlta SRW9000 camcorder. Black levels are the best I've seen on Netflix, and everything else just looks right to me. There aren't a lot of explosions of fast action, so I'm sure that helps. The SuperHD vesion of Skyfall really falls apart during those types of scenes. If you haven't seen it, give it a try. The production values look through the roof to me. Oh, and she drives a Hispano-Suiza!

Watched the first Episode tonight of Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries and I agree it looked pretty good (check out Arrow - I think the black levels are also very good).

I noticed Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries was only stereo on my Chromecast - although the matrix-encoded surround gave some pretty good surround effects.

Again we were able to get Super HD for the complete hour on the Chromecast on our non Open Connect Comcast ISP (confirmed by looking at the router history)
post #1761 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Netflix couldn't force any OEM to update the Netflix players on their devices.

Glasses-required 3D has just about played out as a fad.

You make it sound as if Netflix has zero influence with the manufacturers. I'd argue that Netflix has become big enough and ubiquitous; and that not being able to offer Netflix would be a huge detriment to any brand now.

If Netflix insists, I bet you Netflix can indeed "force" an OEM to issue an update. However, that would cost Netflix money so Netflix wouldn't do it. Netflix is currently in cost-cutting mode. Netflix has to make up for all the bad financial decisions somewhere.

I have a suspicion that all these sneaky downgrade in bitrates and what have you is another way for Netflix to save money, i.e., limiting the bandwidth cost.
post #1762 of 1798
I was getting some ( unusual for me ) occasional prolonged buffering on HD streams from Netflix and Amazon Prime and lower bit rates (poor picture ) on CBS TV website on 11/30 in the late evening so I switched back to Dish TV for the rest of the evening.

. Maybe everybody was using their new black Friday special iPhones , iPads ,Smart TV's or otherwise whatever newly acquired broadband consuming toys they may have and were and all streaming video . I did not bother to tracerout for the bottleneck I just chalked it up to net congestion. eek.gif
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Edited by tubetwister - 12/1/13 at 4:44pm
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Originally Posted by tubetwister View Post

I was getting some ( unusual for me ) occasional prolonged buffering on HD streams from Netflix and Amazon Prime and lower bit rates (poor picture ) on CBS TV website on 11/30 in the late evening so I switched back to Dish TV for the rest of the evening.

. Maybe everybody was shopping on line or using their new black Friday special iPhones , iPads ,Smart TV's or otherwise whatever newly acquired broadband consuming toys they may have and were and all streaming video . I did not bother to tracerout for the bottleneck I just chalked it up to net congestion. eek.gif
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post #1764 of 1798
I have had issues with Super HD and the 3D category and titles not showing up on my PS3 Netflix app starting last week. I know there are the quotes about Netflix possibly discontinuing 3D, but since they launched it for everyone around 10/21 of this year it seems odd to pull it after a month.

I called Netflix support and they said this is a known issue and tech support has been working to fix it, so Netflix has not gotten rid of their 3D titles. There's currently a technical glitch. So hopefully this will get fixed soon. Does anyone else not show the Super HD designation on their PS3 app? I only show the HD icon for most films and shows.
post #1765 of 1798
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Originally Posted by cbtaber View Post

IDoes anyone else not show the Super HD designation on their PS3 app? I only show the HD icon for most films and shows.

The new app does not show the Super HD logo on any platform (I have it on PS3, Roku 3, TiVo Roamio and Xbox 360). They're apparently retiring the designation.

There are a small percentage of HD titles which are 720p-only and the "Super HD" designation served to indicate which titles have available 1080p video encodes. I've also found a few titles which have the 3850 Kbps 1080p encode but not the 4300- and 5800 Kbps "Super HD" ones. Sometimes titles will be added which are 720p only which get the three 1080p encodes added within a couple of months.
post #1766 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

The new app does not show the Super HD logo on any platform (I have it on PS3, Roku 3, TiVo Roamio and Xbox 360). They're apparently retiring the designation.

There are a small percentage of HD titles which are 720p-only and the "Super HD" designation served to indicate which titles have available 1080p video encodes. I've also found a few titles which have the 3850 Kbps 1080p encode but not the 4300- and 5800 Kbps "Super HD" ones. Sometimes titles will be added which are 720p only which get the three 1080p encodes added within a couple of months.

I have found clicking R3 will show playback statistics in the upper left hand corner and if you're streaming Super HD it will be called out there (PS4).
Edited by Chris NYC - 12/4/13 at 2:38pm
post #1767 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Chris NYC View Post

I have found clicking R3 will show playback statistics in the upper left hand corner and if you're streaming Super HD it will be called out there.

You're right--it does still use the designation "Super HD" in the stream info display. It can be toggled with the DISPLAY remote key on PS3 as well (I thought that SEL on the pad brought it up)?
post #1768 of 1798
I don't really like the new interface. Luckily they're not integrating it into my Blu-Ray player so I'll still be able to tell what's SuperHD or not.
post #1769 of 1798
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

I don't really like the new interface. Luckily they're not integrating it into my Blu-Ray player so I'll still be able to tell what's SuperHD or not.


How do you know that?


Ian
post #1770 of 1798
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post

How do you know that?


Ian

The interface hasn't changed, and it still says "SuperHD" for shows as it did before.
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