Netflix adds 3D and Super HD - Page 12

One more question. When I configure the router via computer does it configure all three routers, ie, does it matter I have three routers in series? All three are Linksys, two different models.

The US encode wasn't working when I tried, so I switched unblock to Canada. It worked using the PS3 there. BTW, Super HD will only be received when accessing thru the US, Canada, & UK region settings.

The only router that needs the address change is the one connected to the ISP broadband modem.

How do you change regions on Unblock-US? (not that I'd really want to, I'm in the US anyways)

Once you sign up, and enter their DNS address in either your router or individual Device, you go online to your account. There's a page with a drop down menu bar with all NF regions listed. You select the region you want, and it sets all queries your router makes to that particular service. Activate the app on the console/device, and you're in Brasil, Norway or UK.

Heh. It's working fine on the Canadian server. Not only that, but all 3 devices, the PS3, BDT220 and WDTV Live ramped up to 5800kbps right away on the 11min 23.976 short. Something must be wonky with the US server.

Hey Mike, you want to test the Canadian server to confirm this? I bet everything is smooth sailing over there (it's just too bad they're so short on content).

What freakin' page? I signed up and been up and down the site and I don't see anything like that.

EDIT: Found it--there's a pulldown at the top of the "How to setup page.

It works--with the Canada region selected, I'm getting Super HD from the BDT220 now, and it ramps up faster. Cool .
Edited by michaeltscott - 2/7/13 at 5:11pm

Yeah, but they do have a bunch of stuff that we don't have, like X-Men First Class, Rise of the Planet of the Apes, Salt, Superbad, Knight and Day, Puss in Boots and frickin' 6 seasons of Dexter (!!!). Of course, you can only watch these on your PC in SD (Dexter in Super HD), cannot put them in your IQ (can't access your IQ on the PC at all). You cannot see these titles on the embedded devices and they won't match searches on those. Though you can see the stuff in your IQ that they don't have on embedded devices, you cannot play them.

I'm thinking that setting your region to Canada is of limited utility. Still, if you want to watch something that they do have on the BDT220 (like Dexter ), it's gold.

From the Netflix SuperHD support site.

*Note: Although some Super HD eligible Roku devices do not currently display the Super HD logo, we continue to provide Super HD video quality for these devices.

Those getting SuperHD streams from the Roku 2 - do you see the Super HD logo?

Still, since the 23FPS clip works fine over on the Canadian side, it makes me wonder if that's the only problem we've been having, and we're actually getting SuperHD off everything else on the US side? It's very hard for me to tell just by watching.

Edit- And of course just now I get the 23FPS clip to work at 4300/5800kbps on the BDT220 on the US server. I guess that clip is unreliable (as Netflix is new to Super HD) and it's all fairly wonky.

I'm done with testing for now. I think I'll probably just watch it over the next week and decide if I want to spend the extra $5/mo (probably will).
Edited by DaveFi - 2/7/13 at 7:01pm

Once you're into an alternate region, there is no queue outside the US so there won't be one shown, any searches are specific to that individual country, and only the library for that region will be displayed on the UI on the PS3 app, and Android app. Any titles that are licensed across multiple regions that you've watched in your own, will show in the Recently Watched column. Anything you watch ''away'' from home that's not available in the US  ,will not be displayed in Recently when you 'return home'.'

US server.

Now I am now seeing 5800 kbps reported on the example short on my wired Roku 2.

No SuperHD logos though.

I saw some funkiness on my local network today - maybe not connected to the DNS change - but seems a little co-incidental.

Edit - It is definitely not stable. Sometimes the example short goes to 5800 kbps - other times it only gets to 3850 kbps (when it does get to 5800 it does stay there). Watching actual shows I don't think it is getting to Super HD either looking at the picture quality or the real time bandwidth on my router. I tried a House of Card episode I has previously seen. Anyone tried contacting their support to report to report the issues we are seeing with the US server?
Edited by undecided - 2/7/13 at 7:36pm

My router is configured with the DNS servers. I havent been able to get example short to go above 3800 on Panasonic Viera. PS3 displays SuperHD and 3D labels. Viera does not display 3D label. PS3 asks me do I want to play a title in 3D when one is selected then it says it cant playback the selection.

I see my wireless Roku2 got up to the 580kbps stream tonight. While my BDT-220 can't even exceed the 1050kbps encode tonight(which is pathectic) So I guess it's really hit or miss.

Keep in mind, as per the support page, not all brands of blu ray players or smart tvs are compatible just yet-they've just started this after all.

 

And the number of regions supporting access to Super HD has been upped to all but Mexico-and that will be added later after they work out the bugs.

Since switching to Canada and back I can't get Super HD on my PS3, even after rebooting, or the BDT220. I get it on my Roku 2, TiVo Premiere and in the Win8 Netflix app.

Whatever--all of my devices are attached to the same television aned I generally watch Netflix on my Roku 2 so as long as that works I'm cool. The Roku's app hasn't been updated to display Super HD labels, but no big; it's all of the stuff not restricted to 720p.

Also note-you must first close the Netflix app on whatever console device you're using, then switch regions. The region switcher is acting a little sluggish than usual-started yesterday coinciding with the roll out.

 

 

 

Perhaps they're working out more glitches after adding the other regions. Try deleting the NF folder under Game Data Utility. Not a guarantee that'll help. but it couldn't hurt.

Ok, watching in 3D now...but the system is very unstable. Sometimes it plays, sometimes it doesnt. Likewise with SuperHD and even the example short. This is similar problem I have been having from NF for some time now. Its not my connection...everytime it acts up...I run speedtest....says right this moment..."unable to connect you to netflix..." speedtest just came back as 50x4. I was watching a bit of Flying Swords of Dragon Gate in 3D.

Are you actually getting Super HD on the Roku?

On the example short with my Roku 2 I sometimes get 3850 or 5800 kbps.

Looking at a few real shows (and my router real-time bandwidth) it seems most shows are streaming at 3850 (or lower!) - although occasionally I will get the 5800 stream. Maybe there is some variability and congestion using these DNS servers.

For now I think I will go back the OpenDNS servers - that way I always get the 3850 kbps HD stream from Comcast (and I don't don't get tech supports calls when I am work from my wife saying one of the devices in our house isn't connecting - our WDS set up seemed to get messed up with these DNS servers).

If this works reliably from the US servers in the future I am definitely OK to pay for it. When I did see Super HD on a real title at 5800 kbps it looked good

I'm having similar issues, I was getting High/HD today on House of Cards but this evening the best it will do is go to High/HD near the start and then drop down to High/SD right away and stay there. I decided to re-set the DNS to pre-Unblock but then I had all sorts of problems even connecting to the Internet(re-booted router, the whole 9 yds), set it back to Unblock and now it works again, but still no High/HD. It displays SuperHD on the info page, but I'm not actually getting it.

Unblock overwhelmed maybe?

I have no way to test I am getting 5800 reliably other than with my eyes. The 23FPS test apparently isn't accurate so that's no good.

Any ideas how we can test this more accurately? I'd like to know Super HD actually works before I spring for the $5/mo.

In what sense isn't it accurate? It seems as though it's not available from the non-Super-HD servers now, but that's sort of an indication in an of itself.

That might explain what I was seeing. Sometimes this evening I could access the 24 fps example short - other times it said the title was no longer available. It sounds like sometimes I was getting the Super HD servers - other times not.

All the the time I was using US servers......

Can you give an example of 3 D title.

My Roku 2 isn't showing the Super HD logo so probably doesn't show 3D either and I don't have a Windows 8 PC

Edit - nevermind I see the Roku 2 isn't on the list of devices that support Netflix 3D for now.
Edited by undecided - 2/7/13 at 10:34pm

If every time you try the 24 fps example short it is available and ramps to 5800 kbps and real shows you view look good then you are probably getting Super HD on a consistent basis.

If the 24 fps example short doesn't always get to 5800 kbps you may want to be cautious.

I would also check all other devices on your local network to make sure they are connecting and behaving.

When I get Super HD on my Roku, I get Super HD on my Roku. I find that if I can get "Example Short 23.976" to play at all, I'm hooked up to the Super HD servers (nflxvideo.net domain) as verifiable in my router's list of connections. Whether or not I get the Super HD servers is kind of a crap shoot. Since I switched to the Canadian region and back I haven't been able to get Super HD on my Roku, BDP or PS3. The only platforms on which I always get them are the Win8 Netflix app and my TiVo Premiere.

I've already signed up and paid for a month of this (I thought I might have to to try the Canada region thing). We'll see how it goes .

Now of a sudden I'm getting Super HD on everything with region set to US, including my BDT220. I didn't do anything, though I had to restart the Netflix player on the Roku to get it again (not reboot the Roku, just go to home and back into Netflix).

The film "Immortals" is supposed to be 3D. Only the PS3 and a bunch of LG TVs are supported right now.

Likewise my Roku 2 now seems to be consistently getting Super HD.

I wonder if there is some sort congestion with these DNS servers - now we are at 11PM Pacific traffic is probably lower.

House of Cards looks really good in Super HD (even at 2:0 ratio )

(I had forgotten that you could look at active connections with Tomato. I think it is in QOS - Details. Does QOS need to be enabled?)

Yeah, it's QoS->Details and no QoS doesn't have to be enabled. Click the Source column header to sort it by router-assigned adress and the "Automatically Resolve Addresses" check-box to get names for some Destination addresses.

Now I've seen Super HD on all of my 1080p-capable Netflix device (with Unblock-US region set to "US")--just got it on my BDP-S390 for the first time, though I had to stop and restart the player to get it. The BDP-S390's stream info overlay (like the PS3's except it's not broken), calls 2350- and 3000 Kbps "Medium/HD", 3850- and 4300 Kbps "High/HD" and 5800 Kbps "X-High/HD". I think that it's unchanged and is using the same ranges as before: >= 2350 < 3600 is "Medium/HD", >= 3600 < 4800 is "High/HD" and >= 4800 is "X-High/HD".

apw2607 said that in another thread, but I don't so much care about PQ when watching dialog-oriented drama. Half the time I listen to them while doing something else, like working Sudoku puzzles on my tablet, glancing up now and then . I've about half dozen episodes in and it's been great so far.

OK - Super HD does come and go with the US servers.......

It has gone again from my Roku 2.

The example short is not available, content servers are no longer nflxvideo.net domain, real time bandwidth looks more like 3850 - and the picture quality isn't quite as good.........

It is a shame as Super HD does look pretty good when you can get it.....