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post #691 of 1798
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Originally Posted by javi404 View Post

Unblock us DNS service is mentioned. I run my own DNS. Explain how this gets me superHD if I have FiOS. Why do I need an alternate DNS as a workaround to reach Netflix CDN.

Unblockus is a VPN service. It's not a traditional VPN service as it only works with sites and services that they support, such as Netflix. Also, you get your full ISP download speed with Unblockus as it just works by putting their supplied DNS into your equipment or router. If you subscribe to their service, you can choose the Netflix region you want to access via a drop down menu on their web site.

Netflix Super HD is only supposed to be available in the Netflix region that you reside in and if your ISP uses the Netflix CDN. The people at Unblockus seem to have found a way to give you Super HD irrespective of which country you are in and which Netflix region you are accessing.
post #692 of 1798
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Originally Posted by passingbat View Post



Netflix Super HD is only supposed to be available in the Netflix region that you reside in and if your ISP uses the Netflix CDN. The people at Unblockus seem to have found a way to give you Super HD irrespective of which country you are in and which Netflix region you are accessing.

I am using Unblock. The only region I can get to play 3D is U.S. Other regions have 3D titles but have never been able to view them in 3D. I have not been able to playback titles from Canada region in more than SD. Has anyone been able to get SuperHD playback from Canada?

p.s. watched half of season 5 of Breaking Bad on Ireland this weekend. SuperHD all the way.
post #693 of 1798
I am one of those unfortunates where Unblock-us did not work on a reliable basis with Netflix. Occasionally I would be able to get a movie or TV show in Super HD but more often than not High/HD was the best I would get with my WDTV Live. The resolution would sometimes fall back to SD during the show which was always irritating. I just canceled my subscription which was due for renewal next week. I stream VUDU HDX programs and Amazon Instant/Prime without problem so my ethernet wired bandwidth is just fine.
post #694 of 1798
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Originally Posted by synistr View Post

I have not been able to playback titles from Canada region in more than SD. Has anyone been able to get SuperHD playback from Canada?

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I just tried a random Super HD title on Canada now, and it's playing in Super HD. Canada does seem to give the most intermitent streaming quality results in my experience. Even when you get Super HD on any of the Netflix regions, it fluxtuates between the various streaming qualities whilst watching the same title, and sometimes, it doesn't get Super HD even when it is available for that title.

Given that I use Unblockus to get access to all the regions and High HD is pretty good anyway, I'm happy with the Unblockus service.
post #695 of 1798
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Originally Posted by synistr View Post

I have not been able to playback titles from Canada region in more than SD. Has anyone been able to get SuperHD playback from Canada?

I have without a doubt. I just did it, in the Win8 app on my PC. (The nice thing about the PC is that you can tell whether the Super HD video encodes are available for a title before you get them, by typing CTRL-SHIFT-ALT-S to look at the Stream Manager dialog). I always get available Super HD on my PC and TiVo in every region except Mexico (I haven't found anything which is available only in Mexico, so I haven't used it); the question is whether I'll get sufficient bandwidth on the connection to actually stream those encodes. (I may have improved that by installing a DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem yesterday. How much of the 25 Mbps rated speed of my connection I actually got was pretty dodgy; sometimes it'd test to only a few Mbps. I've tested randomly using multiple test sites since switching modems and it's never been less than 25 Mbps, usually over 30 cool.gif).

Be aware, javi404, that except for TiVo Premiere and the Win8 Netflix app, getting connected to Netflix's Open Connect servers (nflxvideo.net domain) via Unblock-US is highly uncertain. For a while it was impossible to play "Example Short 23.976" when not connected to Open Connect servers so it could be used as a test of whether you were connected to them, but that was a bug and they fixed it. "Example Short 23.976" is a test clip with a bit-rate/resolution info overlay burned into each of its component video encodes; as such it can still be used as a test by playing it and seeing if you get up to the 4300- and 5800 Kbps "Super HD" encodes but you can't be sure that you're not seeing them due to other factors and not because they're not available.
post #696 of 1798
I have a weird problem playing Netflix with Unblock-US region set to Brazil on the Win8 app only. It takes forever to start the browser and if I try to play anything it gets to 7% buffered and just hangs there (sometimes just 0%). Works just fine with all other devices. Not a big deal inasmuch as I'm not particularly likely to want to use the PC; it's just strange.
post #697 of 1798
I will give it a shot tonight and let you know tomorrow. You have done a lot for the streaming community.
post #698 of 1798
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Originally Posted by passingbat View Post

You should check, but I think the WD Play does support DLNA, but not Windows network shares.
You're probably right, I should research it a bit more, thanks.
post #699 of 1798
Roku 3 has been announced! See http://roku.com/. (Slightly off-topic, but we were talking about it earlier smile.gif).
post #700 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Roku 3 has been announced! See http://roku.com/. (Slightly off-topic, but we were talking about it earlier smile.gif).
Thanks, a bit sparse on the specs, hopefully someone will have a hands-on soon.smile.gif
post #701 of 1798
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Originally Posted by passingbat View Post

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Originally Posted by javi404 View Post

Unblock us DNS service is mentioned. I run my own DNS. Explain how this gets me superHD if I have FiOS. Why do I need an alternate DNS as a workaround to reach Netflix CDN.

Unblockus is a VPN service. It's not a traditional VPN service as it only works with sites and services that they support, such as Netflix. Also, you get your full ISP download speed with Unblockus as it just works by putting their supplied DNS into your equipment or router. If you subscribe to their service, you can choose the Netflix region you want to access via a drop down menu on their web site.

Netflix Super HD is only supposed to be available in the Netflix region that you reside in and if your ISP uses the Netflix CDN. The people at Unblockus seem to have found a way to give you Super HD irrespective of which country you are in and which Netflix region you are accessing.

So I started investigating this a little bit. I signed up for unblock-us trial. They have a vpn service but I found an option for setting up a router.
most routes can't do vpn for all your traffic so they had an option to just change your dns settings.

I am using Verizon FIOS which does not have a peering agreement with netflix and my checks at this address: https://signup.netflix.com/superhd
show a failure notice.

"Your Internet Provider is not configured for Super HD yet."

After I took a laptop and changed its dns settings to the ones give to me by unblock-us to 208.122.23.22 and 208.122.23.23 on a laptop as a test and revisited the netflix site, i get the green light.

"Your Internet Provider is ready for Super HD!"

This means that the ability to resolve a hostname to an ip means yes or no for superHD regardless if your ISP has an agreement with netflix.

Here is what is curious to me. DNS serves only one purpose. IT takes a request like what is www.foobar.com and returns the IP addresses. I run my own DNS servers for my network in general so I am trying to figure out if the test on the netflix site uses a lookup that only their partners can resolve. The looking up of a url that is not available on the public net seems to be the test. I will continue to hack at this and see exactly how this works since if you have plenty of bandwidth and you can do the proper resolve of a hostname to an ip you seem to get the green light from netflix for superHD.

Any additional thoughts on this are appreciated.
post #702 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I have a weird problem playing Netflix with Unblock-US region set to Brazil on the Win8 app only. It takes forever to start the browser and if I try to play anything it gets to 7% buffered and just hangs there (sometimes just 0%). Works just fine with all other devices. Not a big deal inasmuch as I'm not particularly likely to want to use the PC; it's just strange.

I gave this a try and I connected to Brazil Netflix easily. But, after that when I tried to stream, it got stuck at 7% for several minutes and then I gave up. I will try more tonight and report back if I have success.
post #703 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Roku 3 has been announced! See http://roku.com/. (Slightly off-topic, but we were talking about it earlier smile.gif).

Ordered it from Roku. Although I like the PS3 Netflix is very laggy. Hope the Roku is faster plus it uses much less electric.
post #704 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Vishwa Somayaji View Post

I gave this a try and I connected to Brazil Netflix easily. But, after that when I tried to stream, it got stuck at 7% for several minutes and then I gave up. I will try more tonight and report back if I have success.

I only have the problem with the Win8 app; everything else plays with region set to Brazil without issue.
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Ordered it from Roku. Although I like the PS3 Netflix is very laggy. Hope the Roku is faster plus it uses much less electric.

I ordered from Amazon to get the 2-day no-addtional-charge Prime shipping. If it ships from a western distribution center they'll probably use ONTRAC and I'll have it tomorrow, if not on Friday cool.gif.

There's a touch of lag in the PS3's Netflix interface but it's nothing that I normally notice. If you want to see lag, try that same interface running in almost anything else. The lag in response to navigation commands in that interface running on my Panasonic BDT220 BDP is outrageous.
post #705 of 1798
Where did you get it from Amazon? I searched and searched and all I was able to find was the Roku 2 and older Rokus. I ended up ordering from the roku.com. They shipped it so I hope to be using it soon.
post #706 of 1798
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Where did you get it from Amazon? I searched and searched and all I was able to find was the Roku 2 and older Rokus. I ended up ordering from the roku.com. They shipped it so I hope to be using it soon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BGGDVOO/ref=oh_details_o00_s01_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
post #707 of 1798
post #708 of 1798
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Originally Posted by javi404 View Post

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Originally Posted by passingbat View Post

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Originally Posted by javi404 View Post

Unblock us DNS service is mentioned. I run my own DNS. Explain how this gets me superHD if I have FiOS. Why do I need an alternate DNS as a workaround to reach Netflix CDN.

Unblockus is a VPN service. It's not a traditional VPN service as it only works with sites and services that they support, such as Netflix. Also, you get your full ISP download speed with Unblockus as it just works by putting their supplied DNS into your equipment or router. If you subscribe to their service, you can choose the Netflix region you want to access via a drop down menu on their web site.

Netflix Super HD is only supposed to be available in the Netflix region that you reside in and if your ISP uses the Netflix CDN. The people at Unblockus seem to have found a way to give you Super HD irrespective of which country you are in and which Netflix region you are accessing.

So I started investigating this a little bit. I signed up for unblock-us trial. They have a vpn service but I found an option for setting up a router.
most routes can't do vpn for all your traffic so they had an option to just change your dns settings.

I am using Verizon FIOS which does not have a peering agreement with netflix and my checks at this address: https://signup.netflix.com/superhd
show a failure notice.

"Your Internet Provider is not configured for Super HD yet."

After I took a laptop and changed its dns settings to the ones give to me by unblock-us to 208.122.23.22 and 208.122.23.23 on a laptop as a test and revisited the netflix site, i get the green light.

"Your Internet Provider is ready for Super HD!"

This means that the ability to resolve a hostname to an ip means yes or no for superHD regardless if your ISP has an agreement with netflix.

Here is what is curious to me. DNS serves only one purpose. IT takes a request like what is www.foobar.com and returns the IP addresses. I run my own DNS servers for my network in general so I am trying to figure out if the test on the netflix site uses a lookup that only their partners can resolve. The looking up of a url that is not available on the public net seems to be the test. I will continue to hack at this and see exactly how this works since if you have plenty of bandwidth and you can do the proper resolve of a hostname to an ip you seem to get the green light from netflix for superHD.

Any additional thoughts on this are appreciated.

There are a few steps you didn't list so, I have to ask.

After entering unblock's 2 addresses in your router, did you reboot both the router and pc? Then go to the unblock site to login, and Click the Check service button to activate? Odd that your pc wouldn't register at the NF link, but your laptop could....

Check this site, http://www.dnsleaktest.com/ , first on the pc, then your laptop. See if you're getting the FIOS dns servers on the pc, or Unblock's (Voxel Dot Net), and if they match the laptop's..

post #709 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Roku 3 has been announced! See http://roku.com/. (Slightly off-topic, but we were talking about it earlier smile.gif).


I would just like to add that according to CNET and a Roku CSR, all the current Roku's will be receiving the new interface used on the Roku 3, via a firmware update which is coming sometime in April through early May.


http://reviews.cnet.com/roku-3/



Ian wink.gif
Edited by mailiang - 3/6/13 at 1:21pm
post #710 of 1798

Where did you find that link. I searched on the website and app and I could not find it for crap. Well Amazons loss for hiding it that you need a microscope to find it. Roku.com gain as it was righty on the front page.
post #711 of 1798
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Where did you find that link. I searched on the website and app and I could not find it for crap. Well Amazons loss for hiding it that you need a microscope to find it. Roku.com gain as it was righty on the front page.

on roku's store page in amazon, it wasnt hard to find. it was my gain because i paid no tax, get it by friday, and getting it shipped with peanut butter.
post #712 of 1798
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post

I would just like to add that according to CNET and a Roku CSR, all the current Roku's will be receiving the new interface used on the Roku 3, via a firmware update which is coming sometime in April through early May.


http://reviews.cnet.com/roku-3/

A footnote on the order page says "by May 20th". Who knows how smooth that fancy interface will be on 2nd generation Rokus as opposed to the supposedly 5-times-faster-with-more-memory processor on the Roku 3?

Got my order in on Amazon this morning; with 2-day Prime shipping it should be here on Friday (if they ship from a western distribution center they'll probably use ONTRAC in which case it'll be here tomorrow cool.gif).
post #713 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Aero 1 View Post

on roku's store page in amazon, it wasnt hard to find. it was my gain because i paid no tax, get it by friday, and getting it shipped with peanut butter.

I pay tax from Amazon in my state so it does not matter. Still there loss for not being able to find it when you search for it.
post #714 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Aero 1 View Post

on roku's store page in amazon, it wasnt hard to find.

Aha! I didn't think to look half way down the second page of the store. Being a new product I expected it to be at the top of the store rolleyes.gif.
post #715 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

A footnote on the order page says "by May 20th". Who knows how smooth that fancy interface will be on 2nd generation Rokus as opposed to the supposedly 5-times-faster-with-more-memory processor on the Roku 3?


I'm pretty sure the new interface will work just fine on the 2nd generation units. I've had no issues as far as my current player's ability to load and cruise. Coming from the marketing end of this business, I usually pass on all the new product hype until I read a good technical review.



Ian wink.gif
Edited by mailiang - 3/6/13 at 3:20pm
post #716 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Aha! I didn't think to look half way down the second page of the store. Being a new product I expected it to be at the top of the store rolleyes.gif.

I ordered it on my iPod Touch and Roku does not have a mobile site. It does not matter as I would have paid tax no matter where I bought it.

Never mind clicked on the buy now button for Amazon on Roku.com and the link was still for the old Roku 2 NOT Roku 3. If it was not for visitors here people would not know Amazon is selling it. Loss sales from them I guess.
post #717 of 1798
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post

I'm pretty sure the new interface will work just fine on the 2nd generation units. I've had no issues as far as my current player's ability to load and cruise.

My guess is that it will be "usable" but quite laggy. (Some would say that describes the Roku 2 XS already biggrin.gif; try clicking any navigation button several times as fast as you can in any menu). GUIs in many if not most platforms have some amount of lag (except for PC apps which accept arrow key nav, which tends to be totally lagless on modern machines), it's just a matter of how much, and how much will bother you.
post #718 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

There are a few steps you didn't list so, I have to ask.
After entering unblock's 2 addresses in your router, did you reboot both the router and pc? Then go to the unblock site to login, and Click the Check service button to activate? Odd that your pc wouldn't register at the NF link, but your laptop could....
Check this site, http://www.dnsleaktest.com/ , first on the pc, then your laptop. See if you're getting the FIOS dns servers on the pc, or Unblock's (Voxel Dot Net), and if they match the laptop's..

Westly, I didn't want to change the dns for my whole network so i just did the laptop to test it. no reboot required. unblock's test page seems sucky and didn't confirm anything for me but when i went to the netflix super hd page i got the "Your Internet Provider is ready for Super HD!"

To me this proves that a simple dns lookup is enough to fool netflix to allow me to watch superhd content. I haven't gotten to the point where I capture network traffic but here is my plan.

1 . capture network traffic on laptop with unblock dns service and note dns lookup and response on netflix superhd page load.
2. capture network traffic on 2nd laptop with default dns settings and note dns lookup and response on netflix superhd page load.
3. compare results and publish.

Let me know if that makes sense and clears things up.

- Jav
post #719 of 1798
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Originally Posted by mailiang View Post

Not sure if anyone posted this yet:


http://www.chud.com/123992/why-netflixs-super-hd-is-making-quality-worse-for-some/
Not sure where they got their info, but I'm pretty sure it's wrong. Time Warner does not throttle.
post #720 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

My guess is that it will be "usable" but quite laggy. (Some would say that describes the Roku 2 XS already biggrin.gif; try clicking any navigation button several times as fast as you can in any menu). GUIs in many if not most platforms have some amount of lag (except for PC apps which accept arrow key nav, which tends to be totally lagless on modern machines), it's just a matter of how much, and how much will bother you.


My Roku 2XD doesn't seem all that 'laggy' to me. As far as the new interface is concerned, I guess will just have to wait and see. Regardless, I doubt I'll be rushing to spend a 100 bucks on a new 3. I'm just not that anal. tongue.gif


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Originally Posted by xcrunner529 View Post

Not sure where they got their info, but I'm pretty sure it's wrong. Time Warner does not throttle.



Until now! biggrin.gif



Ian
Edited by mailiang - 3/7/13 at 11:10am
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