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post #871 of 1798
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Originally Posted by frostylou View Post

Is the 5.1 Dolby audio slightly better( higher bit rate) with the super hd compared to the standard hd?

Nope. Same 384 Kbps 5.1 DD+, potentially equivalent in quality to basic DD 5.1 at twice that rate.
post #872 of 1798
Can someone do some kind of tutorial on how to use this service on an ISP that doesn't support it?
post #873 of 1798
Thx Michael!
post #874 of 1798
Is there a way to confirm SUPER HD is working? I've selected a title that has it but I'm yet to see any difference. Also. Is there a better reign to pick then USA?
post #875 of 1798
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Is there a way to confirm SUPER HD is working? I've selected a title that has it but I'm yet to see any difference. Also. Is there a better reign to pick then USA?

That depends on what you're using to stream it and/or what your router can do. If you're streaming to a device with a stream status info overlay (as shown back in this post, available on my PS3's, Sony BDP's and WD TV Live's Netflix players) you can tell whether you're getting Super HD by bringing that on screen (SEL pad button or DISPLAY remote button on the PS3, DISPLAY remote button on the Sony BDP, OPTIONS remote button on the WD TV Live). If it's saying "Low/SD", "Medium/HD", etc, then "High/HD" could be either "regular" 3850 Kbps 1080p or 4300 Kbps Super HD; "X-High/HD" is 5300 Kbps Super HD. If it's saying "480 SD", "720 HD", etc, then it will say "1080 Super HD" for either 4300 Kbps or 5800 Kbps encodes. A sanity check which can be run on any 1080p Netflix capable device (which excludes the Xbox 360 for one) is to play "Example Short 23.976", a test clip with bit-rate/resolution information burned into each of its component encodes; you're getting Super HD if you see 4300- and/or 5800 Kbps. Not all regions have "Example Short" (I think it's only USA, Canada, Brazil and Mexico). I find that I always get Open Connect servers except when region is set to USA so I don't even bother testing for the others. Getting assigned OC servers and therefore access to the Super HD encodes is iffy with region set to USA (except for TiVo Premiere's player and the Win8 Netflix app, which always seem to get them). If you determine that you're not getting them, you can kill and restart your player until you do. It sometimes takes 5 or more tries. Lucky for me my ISP is set up for OC access so I just "turn off" Unblock for the US region and get OC servers all of the time on all devices. Note that seeing the "Super HD" logo displayed in the title descriptions does not mean that you've been assigned to Open Connect servers, which is the only way you'll get the Super HD video encodes.

The various regions have differing catalogs. The USA region has the largest number of titles, but some of the other regions have a lot of fresher big release content. For instance, Canada has The Hunger Games, Chronicle, Puss in Boots, X-Men First Class and lots of other things not in the US catalog. There are a bunch of big release animation titles only available in the Brazil and Mexico regions (Mexico does not have Super HD). Sometimes the other regions have better renditions of some things than in the US catalog; titles might have 5.1 sound in Canada when they don't here. You'll have to play around with the region selector to see. If you change to any region except the one where your Netflix account was established, you cannot see or add to your Instant Queue. One work-around for this is to play a little bit of a title you think that you might want to watch later, which'll get it in your Recently Watched list. One very helpful resource is the site moreflicks.com; it's a streaming title search site which will match titles in all Netflix regions and tell you which regions they're available in (left-click the Netflix logo and a list will drop down). It searches multiple services listed across the top of the site's pages with check marks on them; I disable all of the others so that it will only match things available from Netflix.

I can't tell you whether you'll notice a difference between the Super HD video encodes and the "regular" 3850 Kbps 1080p one. That depends on a number of different factors. People with large screens say that they clearly see the difference.
post #876 of 1798
Wow. Huge response lol. A little confusing for me. I'm running Netflix on ps3.

So when I hit select to tell me what I'm seeing it should say Super HD? The highest it seems to tell me is just 1080.
post #877 of 1798
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Wow. Huge response lol. A little confusing for me. I'm running Netflix on ps3.

So when I hit select to tell me what I'm seeing it should say Super HD? The highest it seems to tell me is just 1080.
I assume you're using Unblock-Us and see the SuperHD logos before the titles you're trying to play? Use the Unblock-Us region switcher to switch over to Canada and play a SuperHD title there and see what happens.
post #878 of 1798
I look for this symbol in a movie.

Then as its playing it never saying anything higher then this. Is it suppose to say Super HD or is what I'm seeing correct. As of now. I can't tell a difference in video content.
post #879 of 1798
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

I assume you're using Unblock-Us and see the SuperHD logos before the titles you're trying to play? Use the Unblock-Us region switcher to switch over to Canada and play a SuperHD title there and see what happens.
Yes. That's what I'm using.
post #880 of 1798
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

I look for this symbol in a movie.

Then as its playing it never saying anything higher then this. Is it suppose to say Super HD or is what I'm seeing correct. As of now. I can't tell a difference in video content.

You will see Super HD next to the resolution in that graphic in the 2nd photo. Once you star a stream, it may take a minute to ramp up to SHD. But you're saying you never see that happen?

 

post #881 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Westly-C View Post

You will see Super HD next to the resolution in that graphic in the 2nd photo. Once you star a stream, it may take a minute to ramp up to SHD. But you're saying you never see that happen?


Yes. I'm never seeing it. I changed it to Canada and it seems to work very very well. I now see the super HD. But I'd like to get it to work with USA because it doesn't show the same kid content. My kids watch a ton of Netflix. Sadly. I have to watch a lot if it with them. Plus it would be easier to tell the quality difference from content I've scene everyday.

Did you ( or anyone ) manage to get it to work in USA region?
post #882 of 1798
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Yes. I'm never seeing it. I changed it to Canada and it seems to work very very well. I now see the super HD. But I'd like to get it to work with USA because it doesn't show the same kid content. My kids watch a ton of Netflix. Sadly. I have to watch a lot if it with them. Plus it would be easier to tell the quality difference from content I've scene everyday.

Did you ( or anyone ) manage to get it to work in USA region?

To quote my long, confusing response biggrin.gif:
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Getting assigned OC servers and therefore access to the Super HD encodes is iffy with region set to USA (except for TiVo Premiere's player and the Win8 Netflix app, which always seem to get them). If you determine that you're not getting them, you can kill and restart your player until you do. It sometimes takes 5 or more tries.

A test of whether you've been assigned OC servers is to play "Example Short 23.976"; if you're not on OC servers it won't play it. When it fails, kill the player and start it again. I just tried it and it took 5 attempts. I believe that all the regions had that problem at one point but now it's only the USA region. Unblock has been made aware--there's a thread about the problem in their support forum here.
post #883 of 1798
How do I get that link onto ps3? Ps3 was the only thing I enabled the unblock to work since I only use Netflix on ps3.
post #884 of 1798
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

How do I get that link onto ps3? Ps3 was the only thing I enabled the unblock to work since I only use Netflix on ps3.

I take it that you never use the Netflix web page? Click the link to get to the title's page and click the "+ Instant Queue" button under the description. Move it to the top of the queue to make it easy to find (go to the page for your instant queue and drag it to position 2 and it'll be selected when you start the player, handy if you have to start it repeatedly).

EDIT: BTW, if you're connected to something which can play DD surround you might want to mute the sound before you play that (I always do). For some reason they replaced the actual sound for English 5.1 with some ear-shattering audio test tones.
post #885 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

I take it that you never use the Netflix web page? Click the link to get to the title's page and click the "+ Instant Queue" button under the description. Move it to the top of the queue to make it easy to find (go to the page for your instant queue and drag it to position 2 and it'll be selected when you start the player, handy if you have to start it repeatedly).

EDIT: BTW, if you're connected to something which can play DD surround you might want to mute the sound before you play that (I always do). For some reason they replaced the actual sound for English 5.1 with some ear-shattering audio test tones.
Ok. I'll try it out now. And you are correct. I've never been on the web page. I've literally used Netflix only on my PS3.
post #886 of 1798
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Originally Posted by JukeBox360 View Post

Ok. I'll try it out now. And you are correct. I've never been on the web page. I've literally used Netflix only on my PS3.

Realize that you can't browse any significant portion of the entire library in the PS3 player (though you can search all of it). There are some 1500 children and family genre titles in the US catalog.
post #887 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

BTW, if you're connected to something which can play DD surround you might want to mute the sound before you play that (I always do). For some reason they replaced the actual sound for English 5.1 with some ear-shattering audio test tones.


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Ian biggrin.gif
post #888 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Realize that you can't browse any significant portion of the entire library in the PS3 player (though you can search all of it). There are some 1500 children and family genre titles in the US catalog.
I mainly want it to work with US for my kids. My daughter loves tinker bell and Canada servers don't seem to have it.

Oddly enough Canada seems to have a lot better movies to watch vs us. As for super HD. I can't really see any difference in anything. Which is another reason I'd like to see it on US so I can try out what my daughter watches. As I've seen more of her content then mine.
post #889 of 1798
Canada has a better selection of movies because they don't get HBO, MAX, SHO, Starz & EPIX. We are forced here to have to subscribe to cable/satellite and have subscriptions just to use their subpar streaming service.
post #890 of 1798
Well that certainly explains a lot. As I was very surprised in the content offered just by switching to Canada region.
post #891 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Yep--I normally use OpenDNS. When I use my ISP's, OpenDNS, Google Public DNS servers and I get Open Connect servers.

Some guy who runs his own DNS server was trying to figure out what Unblock is doing. I can't say what they're doing, but when I use them for Netflix in the Win8 player, there is a constant low bit rate exchange going on between the Netflix app and one of their (Unblock's) servers. When I use OpenDNS (or my ISP's, or Google's) DNS servers, the same sort of trickle exchange goes on between the Netflix process and an Amazon AWS server. Even when the player is idle, the connection to that server is slightly active. When you ask to play something, a bunch of activity occurs, often with several streaming servers sending content at once, slowly dropping off to one or two; I believe that the whole process is orchestrated by that AWS server. I think that Unblock might be spoofing the function of that AWS server.

Thanks. I was wondering because I've tried on two different ISPs and I'm still getting the Super HD not available. I wondered if it was an OpenDNS issue or not.
post #892 of 1798
I'm still not seeing a quality difference on picture lol.
post #893 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Bai Shen View Post

Thanks. I was wondering because I've tried on two different ISPs and I'm still getting the Super HD not available. I wondered if it was an OpenDNS issue or not.

Are the ISPs supposed to have Super HD? Not many ISPs in the US have signed up for access to Netflix's Open Connect CDN (content delivery network) which is required for access to Super HD (directly through their network--we've been discussing Unblock-US.com, an alternate way to get Super HD).
post #894 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Are the ISPs supposed to have Super HD? Not many ISPs in the US have signed up for access to Netflix's Open Connect CDN (content delivery network) which is required for access to Super HD (directly through their network--we've been discussing Unblock-US.com, an alternate way to get Super HD).

I've seen people post that they're getting Super HD on those ISPs without using Unblock. Not sure if it's just a regional thing or what.
post #895 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Bai Shen View Post

I've seen people post that they're getting Super HD on those ISPs without using Unblock. Not sure if it's just a regional thing or what.

Which ISPs were they?
post #896 of 1798
Must be the ones who have signed on to the open connect with Netflix.
post #897 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Vishwa Somayaji View Post

Must be the ones who have signed on to the open connect with Netflix.

Yeah, but he says that he's not seeing indication that they're signed up when he tried them; I'm assuming he tested by going to signup.netflix.com/superhd.
post #898 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Bai Shen View Post

I've seen people post that they're getting Super HD on those ISPs without using Unblock. Not sure if it's just a regional thing or what.
How!?
post #899 of 1798
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Originally Posted by michaeltscott View Post

Yeah, but he says that he's not seeing indication that they're signed up when he tried them; I'm assuming he tested by going to signup.netflix.com/superhd.
I don't think he tested it. He is saying 'other people'.
post #900 of 1798
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Originally Posted by Vishwa Somayaji View Post

I don't think he tested it. He is saying 'other people'.
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Originally Posted by Bai Shen View Post

...I've tried on two different ISPs and I'm still getting the Super HD not available.
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