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post #121 of 585
3/5/13 at 3:17pm

I haven't got mine home yet to set it up, but this pic I found on-line shows the profile/angles better than most

 

 

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8491/8387309937_ccb9b04b4b_z.jpg


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post #122 of 585
3/5/13 at 8:25pm
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I haven't got mine home yet to set it up, but this pic I found on-line shows the profile/angles better than most


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I think we get the point;)
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post #123 of 585
3/5/13 at 8:30pm
I just don't see why they need to make these players with these odd shapes. I'll need to move a bunch of devices around to accommodate the S5100. Currently with my Panny BDT220 I have a Roku2 and a PCH A400 on top. I guess if I can find my extra shelf I can give the S5100 it's own shelf to sit on.
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post #124 of 585
3/5/13 at 11:01pm
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Sony has them listed with the specs in their store.

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&categoryId=27898

Well to revise my question, as someone just in the market for a blu ray player with no near future plans of buying a 3D tv, (I just have a basic 43" samsung plasma), are the first two models supposed to be worthy entry points to just casual blu ray rentals but can also playback standard dvd's just as well a strong standard dvd player? I've been a Roku streamer for the last couple years so physical media's been lost on me for a while.
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post #125 of 585
3/6/13 at 5:23am
Blu-ray players play CDs, DVDs and BDs. Some can decode non-RedBook CD formats -- HDCD, DTS, SACD, DAD, DVD-A, etc. (Sony doesn't support the latter two formats.) I can only guess at what you mean by "strong". I haven't seen any recent reviews which include DVD error recovery statistics. Sony's S790 has more video manipulation options than their lesser models have, so can do more at improving the images from low quality DVDs.
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post #126 of 585
3/6/13 at 6:24am

Well now that I've had one evening of playing around with the new BDP-S5100, I can see why it's so much cheaper than a new PS3 rolleyes.gif

The low def 480 resolution user interface is almost laughable in comparison, a mere kindergarten version of the PS3's slick high speed, high definition 1080p XMB.

My main display: a 50" Pioneer Kuro plasma, I never bothered to fire up the projector yet to view on my 120" motorized drop down screen, I'll save that for the weekend.

 

The BD player itself "works" fine once the disc is loaded, video quality is okay, Bitstreamed TrueHD and DTS-HD MA audio finally show up on my AVR now (that my current 4 y/o Fat PS3 couldn't do)

Cant comment in regards to the on-line use: netflix, digital download, streaming capabilities etc, as I'm 100% hard disc in my hands with full HD audio glory kind of guy.

But it did find my wireless router for a firmware update without issue, The internet browser is horrible though. LOL! Never even tried Youtube,

 

If I didn't like having an SACD capable player in my system again, (although the menu system and lack of a playlist is a joke compared to the PS3)

I'd gladly return this and pay the extra $$ for a new Slim PS3 with a 160gig HD (that was on sale last month for just $179)

...and I still might after I see that horrible XMB at 480i at 120"

 

I should probably just wait for the PS4 later this year,

then move the S5100 to the bedroom ( where I have another Pioneer 50" plasma and no BD player yet)


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post #127 of 585
3/6/13 at 6:24am
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I just don't see why they need to make these players with these odd shapes. I'll need to move a bunch of devices around to accommodate the S5100. Currently with my Panny BDT220 I have a Roku2 and a PCH A400 on top. I guess if I can find my extra shelf I can give the S5100 it's own shelf to sit on.
When I'm in that situation, the Panasonic and roku go on eBay, get moved to another room or are given away. Why do you need so many devices in the same rack that do exactly the same thing?

The reason they are odd shapes now is partly to give more strength to the cheap plastic case. They didn't have to do that with the stronger sheet metal they used before.
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post #128 of 585
3/6/13 at 6:42am
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When I'm in that situation, the Panasonic and roku go on eBay, get moved to another room or are given away. Why do you need so many devices in the same rack that do exactly the same thing?

The reason they are odd shapes now is partly to give more strength to the cheap plastic case. They didn't have to do that with the stronger sheet metal they used before.

I have three viewing locations, and no one device does everything well. You need to have multiple devices to have a chance to get access to the best. Plus with things like streaming, sometimes one or two devices will have issues because of problems with certain servers, while other devices will have no issues because they access different servers. So I like to have multiple options at every location.

When I get the S5100, my Panny BDT220 will move to my secondary 3D viewing location and I can finally retire one of my old LG combo BD/HDDVD players.. But I still don't have anything there that gives me 3D from Netflix. I only have a PS3 for that right now in my main area. So I'm hoping Netflix expands it's 3D access to more BD players.
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post #129 of 585
3/6/13 at 7:23am
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Super Audio Compact Disc  (developed by Sony IIRC) is Multi Channel 5.1 HD Audio format that first appeared in 1999, long before HD DVD and Bluray
I had a launch PS3 that could play SACD's so picked up lots of classic Albums that I used to own on vinyl ...like Pink Floyd's DSOTM
They have been collecting dust for over 4 years now...


Got My S5100 biggrin.gif

Thanks!
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post #130 of 585
3/6/13 at 9:37am
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Well to revise my question, as someone just in the market for a blu ray player with no near future plans of buying a 3D tv, (I just have a basic 43" samsung plasma), are the first two models supposed to be worthy entry points to just casual blu ray rentals but can also playback standard dvd's just as well a strong standard dvd player? I've been a Roku streamer for the last couple years so physical media's been lost on me for a while.

If you scroll up through the thread, i posted a post on the main differences. You can figure out if those are worth it to you.
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post #131 of 585
3/6/13 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by PioManiac View Post

Well now that I've had one evening of playing around with the new BDP-S5100, I can see why it's so much cheaper than a new PS3 rolleyes.gif
The low def 480 resolution user interface is almost laughable in comparison, a mere kindergarten version of the PS3's slick high speed, high definition 1080p XMB.
My main display: a 50" Pioneer Kuro plasma, I never bothered to fire up the projector yet to view on my 120" motorized drop down screen, I'll save that for the weekend.

The BD player itself "works" fine once the disc is loaded, video quality is okay, Bitstreamed TrueHD and DTS-HD MA audio finally show up on my AVR now (that my current 4 y/o Fat PS3 couldn't do)
Cant comment in regards to the on-line use: netflix, digital download, streaming capabilities etc, as I'm 100% hard disc in my hands with full HD audio glory kind of guy.
But it did find my wireless router for a firmware update without issue, The internet browser is horrible though. LOL! Never even tried Youtube,

If I didn't like having an SACD capable player in my system again, (although the menu system and lack of a playlist is a joke compared to the PS3)
I'd gladly return this and pay the extra $$ for a new Slim PS3 with a 160gig HD (that was on sale last month for just $179)
...and I still might after I see that horrible XMB at 480i at 120"

I should probably just wait for the PS4 later this year,
then move the S5100 to the bedroom ( where I have another Pioneer 50" plasma and no BD player yet)

Yea, its ashame the XMB cant be displayed in the proper native resolution to whatever the output resolution is set to. Simply doesn't have the horsepower I guess, compared to something like the PS3, with all its clever graphics processing.

... still the XMB is going a way anyway. Sony will be using a new style UI on the PS4.
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post #132 of 585
3/6/13 at 9:45am
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I just don't see why they need to make these players with these odd shapes. I'll need to move a bunch of devices around to accommodate the S5100. Currently with my Panny BDT220 I have a Roku2 and a PCH A400 on top. I guess if I can find my extra shelf I can give the S5100 it's own shelf to sit on.

Differentiation ? Since there's not much new inside the shell !
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post #133 of 585
3/6/13 at 9:49am
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I have three viewing locations, and no one device does everything well. You need to have multiple devices to have a chance to get access to the best. Plus with things like streaming, sometimes one or two devices will have issues because of problems with certain servers, while other devices will have no issues because they access different servers. So I like to have multiple options at every location.

When I get the S5100, my Panny BDT220 will move to my secondary 3D viewing location and I can finally retire one of my old LG combo BD/HDDVD players.. But I still don't have anything there that gives me 3D from Netflix. I only have a PS3 for that right now in my main area. So I'm hoping Netflix expands it's 3D access to more BD players.

I tend to agree with you.

I have a ATV 3 for iTunes content. Yes, there's still DRMed iTunes content i have that apple won't allow me to redownload with no DRM,, and I want to watch it in 1080p
I have a ATV 2 that runs XBMC for BBC iplayer, etc. (The ATV 3 has not being jailbroken yet)
A S790 for disk and internet streaming
A Mede8er Med600x3D for local streaming (THe 790 does a very good job but itsn't as flexible)
A TiVo Premier for well ... regular old TV.

I wish there was one device that did everything ... and did it well !!
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post #134 of 585
3/6/13 at 12:45pm
I just had a thought. Except for the PS3 I haven't used a Sony product in many years. I used to use them through out the 90's and into the early 2000's. All the Sony DVD players I owned in the late 90's and early 2000's would automatically remember your location on the disc. The players would remember anywhere between 50 titles and 200 titles depending on the model. Do Sony BD players still have this feature? Or is it a thing of the past now?
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post #135 of 585
3/6/13 at 12:49pm
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I just had a thought. Except for the PS3 I haven't used a Sony product in many years. I used to use them through out the 90's and into the early 2000's. All the Sony DVD players I owned in the late 90's and early 2000's would automatically remember your location on the disc. The players would remember anywhere between 50 titles and 200 titles depending on the model. Do Sony BD players still have this feature? Or is it a thing of the past now?

TODAY - it is 100% dependent on how the disk was authored
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post #136 of 585
3/6/13 at 1:47pm
A DVD's position is remembered if you power off an S590 with the disc still in the drive, or if you accidentally hit the "Home" button instead of the "Pause" button. I haven't tried other cases, and I dunno about the new models.

Blu-ray position memory does very much depend on the disc's authoring. Some do and some don't, although position memory seems to be more common with new titles than it used to be. I was quite annoyed when I discovered that the Game of Thrones discs don't support it.
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post #137 of 585
3/6/13 at 2:11pm

My BDP-S5100 remembered, and prompted me to resume playback or restart from the beginning

last night after I stopped and removed my Total Recall (2012) Bluray, played another BD, then re-installed Total Recall later on.
 

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post #138 of 585
3/6/13 at 2:38pm
I was just curious. I had stopped watching DVDs by the end of 2005 and I had pretty much written off viewing Blu-ray Discs several years ago when I switched to only viewing them from ISOs. But with the 3D BD content, and me getting a Mitsubishi 3D DLP recently, it got me back to viewing Blu-ray Discs again.

Until I thought about it earlier, I forgot how long it had been since I owned Sony A/V products.. I used to be all over Sony products with CDs, MiniDiscs, DVDs and I had owned several of their receivers. But I gravitated away from Sony products after the demise of MinDisc and went the route of digital video outputs with Panasonic SDI DVD players and started using other other brands like Denon, Toshiba, Samsung.
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post #139 of 585
3/6/13 at 3:22pm
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...I have a ATV 2 that runs XBMC for BBC iplayer, etc...
Sorry for the slight OT detour, and forgive me if I've asked you before, but what are you using to get BBC? I'm looking for a free solution that works outside of Firefox (currently using Tor) and is easy to turn on and off.

BTW, I used to have stacks of devices because nothing did it all, but I'm finally down to only 2: a sony blu-ray player for discs and Netflix, and an HTPC for everything else (cable TV, DVR, web, streaming, personal music/photo/video library). My ultimate goal is one media device in the home theater, which will most likely be the HTPC but probably not for a few more years. My sony players have a lot more duties in other rooms of the house like DLNA, youtube, pandora, etc.
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post #140 of 585
3/6/13 at 8:17pm
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Sorry for the slight OT detour, and forgive me if I've asked you before, but what are you using to get BBC? I'm looking for a free solution that works outside of Firefox (currently using Tor) and is easy to turn on and off.

BTW, I used to have stacks of devices because nothing did it all, but I'm finally down to only 2: a sony blu-ray player for discs and Netflix, and an HTPC for everything else (cable TV, DVR, web, streaming, personal music/photo/video library). My ultimate goal is one media device in the home theater, which will most likely be the HTPC but probably not for a few more years. My sony players have a lot more duties in other rooms of the house like DLNA, youtube, pandora, etc.

I use a proxy which I pay for. Can watch bbc iplayer 720p streams no problems !
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post #141 of 585
3/7/13 at 2:44am
having a first gen ps3 in the living room and an s790 in the bedroom, im going to sale my 250gb fat ps3 and put the 5100 in its place.

i bought the ps3 on launch week and have probably played 4 or 5 games on it. I have played more movie discs in the thing than anything else.
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post #142 of 585
3/7/13 at 8:13pm
I have 2 questions about the 2013 sony players.

#1 Can you turn OFF the auto shut off feature? Super annoying on the S590. mad.gif

#2 When first starting the player and clicking the netflix logo......does the the player load the netflix app without any dumb message popping up like ((The internet content is NOW READY click ok to load))? Also super annoying on the S590.mad.gif

For anyone that can answer................Thanks smile.gif
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post #143 of 585
3/7/13 at 10:35pm
Most of my viewing has been Netflix so far. No such message.
Edited by Bradical - 3/7/13 at 10:43pm
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post #144 of 585
3/7/13 at 11:00pm
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Originally Posted by Dark_Planet View Post

I have 2 questions about the 2013 sony players.

#1 Can you turn OFF the auto shut off feature? Super annoying on the S590. mad.gif

#2 When first starting the player and clicking the netflix logo......does the the player load the netflix app without any dumb message popping up like ((The internet content is NOW READY click ok to load))? Also super annoying on the S590.mad.gif

For anyone that can answer................Thanks smile.gif

1) no

2) The message is still there on cold start.
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post #145 of 585
3/8/13 at 10:37am
My local Costco now has the BX110, which is the S1100 with an HDMI cable added, in stock. Hopefully the other two models will appear soon, too.
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post #146 of 585
3/8/13 at 10:44am
I thought i read somewhere that the S5100 is supposed to be out around the 15th?
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post #147 of 585
3/8/13 at 1:07pm
I can confirm that Netflix on the 5100 supports 3D and SuperHD. The film "Art of Flight" is an excellent movie to watch in 3D.
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post #148 of 585
3/10/13 at 1:35pm
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I can confirm that Netflix on the 5100 supports 3D and SuperHD. The film "Art of Flight" is an excellent movie to watch in 3D.

Sweet thanks!!! I'll be picking an S5100 up whenever BestBuy gets them in stock.

I was at a local BestBuy earlier today and they had the S1100 and the S3100 on display and for sale. eek.gifeek.gifeek.gifeek.gif What the heck are these things? I could easily press down on the top like it was nothing. Although I still plan on getting the S5100 but I was just surprised what the players looked and felt like in person. It was kind of a shock.
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post #149 of 585
3/10/13 at 6:36pm
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What the heck are in these things ?

Basically SoC or "System on a chip" ...
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post #150 of 585
3/11/13 at 11:09am
590 vs 5100 ?

I'm only focused on SACD, cd, and regular blu rays. I do care a lot about audio performance. Anyone have an opinion they can share? (I'd of course save the $30 if they are the same but wondered if there were specs I was missing. Thanks!
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