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post #1591 of 2898
Brand or type rarely has anything to do with it. It's the file system and power usage that matters. The USB port of the player does not necessary put out enough juice for external HDDs. The player itself, IIRC, support FAT and NTFS file system. If you use NTFS and has specific security assigned to files or folders on your PC, it probably won't work either because that security will only be used on the PC that created it.

Not sure if it is still the case, but IIRC, multiple partitions on the HDD are also not supported.
post #1592 of 2898
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

Sometimes screws work loose in the drive mechanism or its mounting. A few people have opened up their BD players and tightened the screws to reduce the noise. A product like LocTite can be useful, too.

Thanks for the input, might have to do just that!
post #1593 of 2898
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Brand or type rarely has anything to do with it. It's the file system and power usage that matters. The USB port of the player does not necessary put out enough juice for external HDDs. The player itself, IIRC, support FAT and NTFS file system. If you use NTFS and has specific security assigned to files or folders on your PC, it probably won't work either because that security will only be used on the PC that created it.

Not sure if it is still the case, but IIRC, multiple partitions on the HDD are also not supported.

The brand/model will tell one that does work though! Otherwise I could be buying/returning like crazy. I don't think the Western Digital My Passport has external power, but for a 500GB unit I wouldn't think it would use much power. Maybe the security thing is a problem.
post #1594 of 2898
The first thing I do when I get a new drive is format it. All the crap Seagate and WD put into their drives is useless to me. If you can, format the drive (one partition) to NTFS and then rip a DVD or Blu-ray using MakeMKV to your C drive (never rip to a drive that's connected via USB - you will get corruption). Once done, copy the MKV to your WD Passport and give it a go.

The 4TB WD I have is WD My Book 4TB USB 3.0 External Hard Drive (WDBACW0040HBK-NESN).

Out of curiosity, does your drive have one or two USB connectors (1 for data & power and another for extra power)?
post #1595 of 2898
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Originally Posted by DukeNukem1967 View Post

The first thing I do when I get a new drive is format it. All the crap Seagate and WD put into their drives is useless to me. If you can, format the drive (one partition) to NTFS and then rip a DVD or Blu-ray using MakeMKV to your C drive (never rip to a drive that's connected via USB - you will get corruption). Once done, copy the MKV to your WD Passport and give it a go.

The 4TB WD I have is WD My Book 4TB USB 3.0 External Hard Drive (WDBACW0040HBK-NESN).

Out of curiosity, does your drive have one or two USB connectors (1 for data & power and another for extra power)?

So I reformatted them and got that WD junk off. I put just one movie on the drive and hooked it up to the DVD player and it worked, so I think that was the key for me! And no, the HD didn't have two USB ports.
post #1596 of 2898
Hello, everybody, I got a new 3TB lacie external drive, and fomated it with ntfs. copied several movies into it, but my s5100 doesn't recognize the hard drive at all. is there anyway to deal with the issue?

Thanks.
post #1597 of 2898
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Originally Posted by kuer View Post

Hello, everybody, I got a new 3TB lacie external drive, and fomated it with ntfs. copied several movies into it, but my s5100 doesn't recognize the hard drive at all. is there anyway to deal with the issue?

Thanks.

There's just one partition on the drive? Did you do a quick or full format on the drive? You've checked the cable to make sure it's seated correctly? The drive works on your PC? The drive has its own power supply? I'm assuming it does since it's 3TB. Are you plugging the drive into the front or back USB port? If one doesn't work, try the other. Have you upgraded the 5100's software yet? What kind of movies are you putting on (AVI, MP4, MKV)?
Edited by DukeNukem1967 - 10/9/13 at 6:12am
post #1598 of 2898
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Originally Posted by DukeNukem1967 View Post

There's just one partition on the drive? Did you do a quick or full format on the drive? You've checked the cable to make sure it's seated correctly? The drive works on your PC? The drive has its own power supply? I'm assuming it does since it's 3TB. Are you plugging the drive into the front or back USB port? If one doesn't work, try the other. Have you upgraded the 5100's software yet? What kind of movies are you putting on (AVI, MP4, MKV)?

thank you so much. I read this thread and didn't find any possible setup issues.

I just got lacie porsche design 3tb yesterday, and deleted anything inside, "fast-formated" it with ntfs, copied only one song into it, tried front and rear usb ports, both told me not support.

On my 3 pcs, works perfectly.

Changed the usb cable, not work.

Seperated to two patitions less than 2tb, not work.

....


Read your post again, wonder if it needs to be done with "full format" ? last night I copied lots of file to it.

Thanks.
post #1599 of 2898
I am trying the fomat again with quick format box not ticked. will tell the result.
post #1600 of 2898
Probably won't make a difference. You need to make sure only one partition existed on the HDD. Formatting won't change the partitioning. Also for larger HDDs (> 2TB), it is possible that the player won't read certain newer partition tables using newer format.
post #1601 of 2898
Thanks, I give up. decide to use this 3tb as backup disk with my pcs.

found online the full format will take several days for 3tb! canceled it, re-quick-format it again.

Maybe someday, somebody will tell an easy way to solve the problem.
post #1602 of 2898
Put that 3TB on the network as DLNA server (you can use your PC to do it). Your player can stream music and videos off them easily over the network. I never bother plugin anything physically to the player.
post #1603 of 2898
My suspicion is that the disk driver in the BD player simply can't handle disks larger than 2.2TB. That's a common problem which was discovered when 3TB disks were first released. One description of the problem is included in the article at http://www.pcworld.com/article/235088/everything_you_need_to_know_about_3TB_hard_drives.html
post #1604 of 2898
S-5100 NOT OUTPUTTING 1080P

I can not seem to get device to output 1080P. I go to settings, set it for 1080P and the screen goes blank. 480p works ok. Have new Samsung F7500. What am I doing wrong??
post #1605 of 2898
Assuming the electronics in the player and the TV actually are OK...

How long is the cable between the player and the TV?
Is it certified "High Speed"?
Long and/or "Standard Speed" cables can't carry 1080p reliably.

Have you tried disabling Deep Color in the player?
Deep Color increases the video bitrate unnecessarily, although supposedly Sony's new "mastered for 4K" BDs use it.
post #1606 of 2898
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Originally Posted by Selden Ball View Post

My suspicion is that the disk driver in the BD player simply can't handle disks larger than 2.2TB. That's a common problem which was discovered when 3TB disks were first released. One description of the problem is included in the article at http://www.pcworld.com/article/235088/everything_you_need_to_know_about_3TB_hard_drives.html
Then, explain this:
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Originally Posted by DukeNukem1967 View Post

I have a 4TB Western Digital with external power and a 500GB Iomega with USB power and both work fine. Perhaps the drive needs more power than the USB port can provide.
post #1607 of 2898
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

Then, explain this:

You beat me to it, Foxbat. The s5100 is one of the few players that support >2TB hard drives.
post #1608 of 2898
In that case, then, my bias would be to blame insufficient +5V power smile.gif
Externally powered USB hubs are readily available for use with "self powered" USB disk drives. Of course, the player's manual warns that hubs can cause their own problems, so one just has to try it out.

Of course, another possibility is that the player is defective and should be returned.
post #1609 of 2898
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I don't know about Lovefilm. We don't have that in the US.



Netflix takes 18 seconds to load on my 1100, but is very responsive when navigating.



I don't know how it handles different frame rates. I think the frame rate is fixed in the US, because I've never seen it change.



Maybe an 1100 owner will chime in and answer your other questions.

 



Thanks for the info on the S1100's Netflix performance, that's really helpful.

It looks like this player will meet all my requirements, so I shall hopefully pick one up soon.
post #1610 of 2898
My Panny bdt-210 can't stream Amazon in 5.1. I'm considering the S5100 because it can stream Amazon and Netflix in 5.1 (to the extent that Amazon and Netflix have 5.1 content). I'm also starting to use Vudu more often. And the S5100 is on sale for $89 at amazon.

For those of you that have the S5100, are you happy with its streaming abilities - especially in 5.1?

Thanks,
Glenn
post #1611 of 2898
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Originally Posted by Glenn_Law View Post

My Panny bdt-210 can't stream Amazon in 5.1. I'm considering the S5100 because it can stream Amazon and Netflix in 5.1 (to the extent that Amazon and Netflix have 5.1 content). I'm also starting to use Vudu more often. And the S5100 is on sale for $89 at amazon.

For those of you that have the S5100, are you happy with its streaming abilities - especially in 5.1?

Thanks,
Glenn
IN general I'm very happy with it, but the one app I do not like is the Amazon app on the 5100. I avoid using the Amazon app on the 5100 and use it from my ROkus instead. It is too slow on the 5100 and takes a long time to start streaming when compared to the ROku boxes.
post #1612 of 2898

Quick question. Is it better to set the output resolution to 1089P or leave it set to Auto by default? If set to 1089P, will it automatically upscale everything or will it do that in the Auto setting as well?9ebrkD

post #1613 of 2898
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Originally Posted by Glenn_Law View Post

My Panny bdt-210 can't stream Amazon in 5.1. I'm considering the S5100 because it can stream Amazon and Netflix in 5.1 (to the extent that Amazon and Netflix have 5.1 content). I'm also starting to use Vudu more often. And the S5100 is on sale for $89 at amazon.

For those of you that have the S5100, are you happy with its streaming abilities - especially in 5.1?

Thanks,
Glenn


I can't stand the Amazon app on the 5100 but its the same one I have on my Panasonic TV. The problem is when skipping back or forward you have no way of knowing where you are as there are no scene changes like you get with the Netflix app. It's fine for playing and pausing but if you need to skip back it's just a blind guessing game. I'm an Amazon Prime member but choose to use Netflix instead. I have also used and like the Vudu app. Nice to know that Roku has a better Amazon app because I assumed they were all the same.
post #1614 of 2898
I second hyperslug. My feelings exactly regarding advancing or rewinding playback so we end up on netflix 95% of the time. I also found that I would get frequent dropouts on the amazon app where with netflix it could play 1080p and 5.1 without issue. This problem did go away when we got the kid his own modem in his room for gaming. The point being netflix will handle slower Internet speeds better than amazon.
post #1615 of 2898
Thank you all for the input regarding the Amazon streaming. It sounds like the Amazon UI is about the same as on my Panasonic.

I had put the Sony player in my Amazon cart while I was thinking about it. My wife went and ordered it for me before I decided for sure I wanted. For better or worse, it will be here tomorrow and I'll get to see how it does with Netflix and Amazon 5.1.

Thanks,
Glenn
post #1616 of 2898
Thread Starter 
The amazon UI on the sony players is very different than that on the panasonic, samsung roku, etc. The sony uses a proprietary standard sony framework that isn't very user friendly. Cover art is too small and low resolution. Movie cover art is the worst with tv shows marginally better. However it does support watch lists and does support 5.1. The picture quality looks great too.

My advise is to browse for content using your pc and add them to your watch list to play on your 5100 ..
post #1617 of 2898
I just got the S1100. I figured for the super low price, it was worth a try given the very positive reviews. I'm extremely impressed. The picture clarity and color are really superb running in regular Standard mode with no enhancements (always my preference). I have it set to output the original resolution, which is primarily 1080/24p and 1080/60i for Blu-ray. Do I dare say the picture quality is even little better than the S790 which I have? Yes. The color is more natural and the shadow detail is a little better (and I detect no EE). The loading and operation are fairly quick and smooth too. For $70 this thing is amazingly good, though I don't know how reliable it will be over time. Anyone on the fence should not hesitate, IMO.
post #1618 of 2898
Thread Starter 
I still prefer my s790 (auto picture mode) over my s5100 with any picture setting.
Edited by apw2607 - 10/12/13 at 9:05pm
post #1619 of 2898
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

I still prefer my s790 (auto picture mode) over my s5100 with any picture setting.

How are you sending the video? I had mine set to send 4:4:4 color, SBM OFF, Deep Color OFF, Original resolution (i.e. 1080/24p and 1080/60i for blu-ray). Set the same way, the S1100 very surprisingly has a slightly better picture (better shadow detail and smoother more natural color with equal depth and clarity). I have a very discerning eye as well, as most players do not look essentially the same to me (even after I slightly re-calibrate my TV for each player).
post #1620 of 2898
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by RWetmore View Post

How are you sending the video? I had mine set to send 4:4:4 color, SBM OFF, Deep Color OFF, Original resolution (i.e. 1080/24p and 1080/60i for blu-ray). Set the same way, the S1100 very surprisingly has a slightly better picture (better shadow detail and smoother more natural color with equal depth and clarity). I have a very discerning eye as well, as most players do not look essentially the same to me (even after I slightly re-calibrate my TV for each player).

I have SBM set to on, deep color enabled, 4:4:4 and HDMI output resolution set to 1080p. Works for me.
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