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post #841 of 2898
Turn off at BDP is good enough.
post #842 of 2898
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Originally Posted by apw2607 View Post

There is no shuffle. Serviio dlna does support playlists so you could shuffle the files first in the playlist. Mp3 are organized based on the DLNA server but seem to respect folder and track order if track number are first.

Thanks. I have a 4000+ track collection on a Buffalo NAS drive that I play back over DLNA. The physical folder structure on the NAS is by Artist-Album-Track. Every track is of the format 01 - title, 02 - title, etc. All of the tracks have embedded cover art along with numerous tags.

The current Panny player and TV display the embedded cover art and allow multiple ways to sort the tracks based on the tags (for example, by Album, Artist, Genre). There is also an All Music mode, where all 4000+ tracks are individually listed at once. Unfortunately, there is no shuffle feature for this mode.

My previous Samsung BR player also had an All Music mode, but it had a shuffle mode, which randomly played back from the 4000+ tracks. This was great!; however, the Samsung had intermittent networking and audio dropout during BR playback, and had to be retired.
Edited by areyou4real - 6/19/13 at 5:42am
post #843 of 2898
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Originally Posted by Kisakuku View Post

http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net/en

Thanks for the tip. Finally got the right info (I hope):

General
Complete name : G:\My Videos\2004 Halloween - Clip 058.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name : DVCPRO
File size : 93.5 MiB
Duration : 26s 226ms
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 29.9 Mbps
Recorded date : 2004-10-29 09:26:41.000
TAPE : 2005-misc
TCOD : 12415069333

Video
ID : 0
Format : DV
Commercial name : DVCPRO
Codec ID : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint : Sony
Duration : 26s 226ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
Time code of first frame : 00:20:41;14
Time code source : Subcode time code
Stream size : 90.0 MiB (96%)
Encoding settings : ae mode=full automatic / wb mode=automatic / white balance= / fcm=manual focus

Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 26s 226ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 024 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 32.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 3.20 MiB (3%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 265 ms (7.94 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration : 266 ms
post #844 of 2898
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by areyou4real View Post

Thanks. I have a 4000+ track collection on a Buffalo NAS drive that I play back over DLNA. The physical folder structure on the NAS is by Artist-Album-Track. Every track is of the format 01 - title, 02 - title, etc. All of the tracks have embedded cover art along with numerous tags.

The current Panny player and TV display the embedded cover art and allow multiple ways to sort the tracks based on the tags (for example, by Album, Artist, Genre). There is also an All Music mode, where all 4000+ tracks are individually listed at once. Unfortunately, there is no shuffle feature for this mode.

My previous Samsung BR player also had an All Music mode, but it had a shuffle mode, which randomly played back from the 4000+ tracks. This was great!; however, the Samsung had intermittent networking and audio dropout during BR playback, and had to be retired.

I tried one of the new 2013 samsung BD players. It didn't respect track order and drove me nuts. I should mention the Sony doesn't support album art.

In all honesty I wouldn't use the Sony BDP for a large music collection. It's pretty limited. My preference. Apple TV.
post #845 of 2898
Yesterday I posted that my tv screen was going black while watching my first Bluray disk on my week old BDP-S5100 and was told to turn Deep Color off. I did and then watched a DVD last night and had the same issue except the black screen would revert to normal screen more quickly. I have a question before I go to the expense and trouble of buying another HDMI cable and connecting it to a different hdmi input on my AVR - will I have to setup my BDP5100 again? (Remember I'm a newbie). Also the Hdmi inputs that I have open to connect to on my AVR are “Game" and “DVD" and I suppose all the Hdmi inputs function the same on my AVR (Pioneer Elite VSX-43).
post #846 of 2898
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Originally Posted by kamgol View Post

Thanks for the tip. Finally got the right info (I hope):

General
Complete name : G:\My Videos\2004 Halloween - Clip 058.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Commercial name : DVCPRO
File size : 93.5 MiB
Duration : 26s 226ms
Overall bit rate mode : Constant
Overall bit rate : 29.9 Mbps
Recorded date : 2004-10-29 09:26:41.000
TAPE : 2005-misc
TCOD : 12415069333

Video
ID : 0
Format : DV
Commercial name : DVCPRO
Codec ID : dvsd
Codec ID/Hint : Sony
Duration : 26s 226ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 24.4 Mbps
Encoded bit rate : 28.8 Mbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:1:1
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Interlaced
Scan order : Bottom Field First
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 2.357
Time code of first frame : 00:20:41;14
Time code source : Subcode time code
Stream size : 90.0 MiB (96%)
Encoding settings : ae mode=full automatic / wb mode=automatic / white balance= / fcm=manual focus

Audio
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 1
Duration : 26s 226ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 024 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 32.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 3.20 MiB (3%)
Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
Interleave, duration : 265 ms (7.94 video frames)
Interleave, preload duration : 266 ms

That's DV format from miniDV tapes which is essentially Motion JPEG, a rare format found mostly in DV video. The player probably doesn't have any support for it. Besides, IIRC, the video is also 25mbps bit rate for just a SD resolution video. Makes it not very ideal for streaming because of the high bandwidth requirement. MJPeg is good for editing on old PCs but bad for everything else. A high quality blu ray video in 1080p H.264 only uses that much bandwidth.
Edited by Foxbat121 - 6/20/13 at 4:48am
post #847 of 2898
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Originally Posted by EliteNewbie View Post

Yesterday I posted that my tv screen was going black while watching my first Bluray disk on my week old BDP-S5100 and was told to turn Deep Color off. I did and then watched a DVD last night and had the same issue except the black screen would revert to normal screen more quickly. I have a question before I go to the expense and trouble of buying another HDMI cable and connecting it to a different hdmi input on my AVR - will I have to setup my BDP5100 again? (Remember I'm a newbie). Also the Hdmi inputs that I have open to connect to on my AVR are “Game" and “DVD" and I suppose all the Hdmi inputs function the same on my AVR (Pioneer Elite VSX-43).

No, no need to setup BDP again. And the cables from Forum sponsor Monoprice are high quality without break your bank. Highly recommended.

Also, not sure if you have tried, try power on your system using this order: TV->AVR->BDP to see if that helps.
post #848 of 2898
Thank you and no, I have not tried that power on combo, will do tho. Plus, are all the hdmi inputs the same on my avr?
Edited by EliteNewbie - 6/20/13 at 6:25am
post #849 of 2898
Hello all - I just got an S5100, and I'm having an issue. I have my player hooked up to my Sony soundbar (HT-CT150) through HDMI and I noticed that when i turn my player on the receiver will turn off standby mode causing the blu-ray player input to "vanish" as if there's no connection or as if i had just turned my blu-ray player off. With my previous sony blu-ray player i could play discs without my receiver actually being on and just use the TV speakers (for when it's late at night for instance). It appears that when i turn my soundbar system ON the player works fine, but when its off (or in standby mode) the input wont stay connected. A movie will play for about 10 seconds and then the input will "turn off". Usually on my receiver there's an orange dot that glows all the time, but after about 10 seconds it'll turn off and then the input will turn off. Is this making any sense? i sure hope so. I tried moving around cables, but i wonder if it even could be a cable problem? or something is wrong with the receiver all of a sudden? or somehow these two devices aren't compatible or there's some setting i should have switched on or off? if everything worked fine with my previous sony blu-ray player i dont get why all of a sudden with the s5100 things would be any different. any advice would be greatly appreciated! thanks!
post #850 of 2898
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Originally Posted by Foxbat121 View Post

That's DV format from miniDV tapes which is essentially Motion JPEG, a rare format found mostly in DV video. The player probably doesn't have any support for it. Besides, IIRC, the video is also 25mbps bit rate for just a SD resolution video. Makes it not very ideal for streaming because of the high bandwidth requirement. MJPeg is good for editing on old PCs but bad for everything else. A high quality blu ray video in 1080p H.264 only uses that much bandwidth.

Thanks for looking over that info and the detailed explanation. Do you have any advice on decent conversion software?
post #851 of 2898
Handbrake is what a lot ppl use.
post #852 of 2898
I recently purchased (5/30/2013) a TV and a BD player from Sony (KDL70R550A and BDP-S5100) these are directly connected by a high speed HDMI cable (From TV - HDMI/MHL – Input 2 to HDMI port in the BDP)

The issue as it has been from day one:
When the BDP starts to play a Blu-ray disc in 1080/24P format (both 2D and 3D), the TV backlight turns off and the screen is blacked out almost completely. However the picture/ images could be seen on the screen faintly if I look very close (6-10 in. from the screen). Mean while, the audio plays fine.

Steps I’ve tried so far:
I set the Resolutions in both TV and BDP to Auto.
I tried to turn off the Deep Color, and x,y Color spacing but none resolve the issue.
I also tried to swap several HDMI cables with the same result.
I updated both TV and BDP to the latest firmware respectively on 6/18/2013 with the same result.
I performed the Factory Reset on the BDP with the same result.

Observations:
The backlight will come back on if I press the Picture Off button on the TV Remote twice (1st to turn Off, 2nd to turn On)
The backlight will come back on if I press the Input button on the TV Remote to switch to another input and then switch back to the Input2

I appreciate any helps to reslove this issue.
post #853 of 2898
I'm having an issue with my S5100. It says its connected to my network (wired), but when I try to connect to Internet content sites (Netflix, Amazon Vid, and even Sony Essentials) it times out. Strangely, I can browse web pages fine and all Network settings check out and say connected. I have linked the device to the Sony Briavia Link so that is not the issue. Also, the issue is the same wired or wireless. On a few occasions, repeatedly re-running auto network setup seems to help, but most of the time it does not. 100% of the time it says it has a good connection and can access the Internet. Very frustrated.
post #854 of 2898
I am having some major problems trying to watch anything on my S5100. I have it connected to a Pioneer av receiver which is connected to my Sony Bravia tv and all by hdmi. I watched it for a week with no problems but hubby had to move the entertainment center all this equip is sitting on out from the wall about 3 feet because we had a bathroom faucet leak to fix and that faucet connection was behind that wall. The major issue I am having is that the tv screen goes black about every 15 minutes when watching something and I have to power everything down and cycle back up to get picture back. And in about a week this entertainment center will have to be moved back in place (faucet is now fixed but hubby is in process of replacing Sheetrock and taping, bedding and painting).

So that's the messy background story. My question is something I am seeing on my tv. I see this on the input banner at the top of the screen before I even turn the Bluray player. In the left top corner of the tv screen there is an arrow followed by HDMI followed by BD. there is a BD input on my av receiver without anything connected to it so I don't understand why this is showing at the top of my tv screen (when I have nothing queued up yet)

I am just wondering if my BlDP S5100 is actually faulty even tho I am blaming this black screen issue on fault with hdmi cable caused by moving the ent center.
post #855 of 2898
My TV says BD when I select that input from the remote without the player being turned on. That's not a problem.
post #856 of 2898
FYI - As of the latest firmware update, I can now play .mkv files made directly from DVD's using makeMKV and chapters work!

I have a huge collection of TV Shows on DVD's and I have been ripping everything to a 4TB USB drive and using .m2ts. I ripped probably 1/5 of my collection so far, but from now on, I am using .mkv format so the chapters are intact. I will probably re-rip the rest eventually. What a pain, but what a great new feature! This player along with an external 4TB drive is the perfect media server, IMHO. Beats the crap out of streaming and HTPC (usually) due to its low power requirements and simplicity. I am really tempted to get a second setup just like it for my movie room for HD stuff and viewing pictures and listening to music.
post #857 of 2898
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Originally Posted by thorr View Post

FYI - As of the latest firmware update, I can now play .mkv files made directly from DVD's using makeMKV and chapters work!

I have a huge collection of TV Shows on DVD's and I have been ripping everything to a 4TB USB drive and using .m2ts. I ripped probably 1/5 of my collection so far, but from now on, I am using .mkv format so the chapters are intact. I will probably re-rip the rest eventually. What a pain, but what a great new feature! This player along with an external 4TB drive is the perfect media server, IMHO. Beats the crap out of streaming and HTPC (usually) due to its low power requirements and simplicity. I am really tempted to get a second setup just like it for my movie room for HD stuff and viewing pictures and listening to music.

Was there a problem before the 0138 firmware? Chapter support for .mkv's was always there.
post #858 of 2898
It didn't work with DVD's (MPEG-2) in the MKV container for me. It may have worked with other codecs inside MKV's.
post #859 of 2898
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Originally Posted by thorr View Post

It didn't work with DVD's (MPEG-2) in the MKV container for me. It may have worked with other codecs inside MKV's.

Gotcha. It always worked with H.264 and I thought I remembered having some MPEG-2 content with working chapter breaks, but I might have misremembered.
post #860 of 2898
I just got the bdp-s3100 and I'm very disappointed (and frustrated). Here's why....

One reasonably expects that basic features migrate through a product life (even in similar products). For example, this device does NOT remember where you left off, to resume. Even my older Sony DVD does this, for up to 2 discs. This unit also will power itself off after a pause - this setting cannot be tuned.

In the case of the older DVD player, the remote didn't have an "EJECT" button (seriously?) though it clearly responds to the code from an even older Sony DVD remote.

That all being said, the performance of this unit is sub-par - it's slow, feels clunky. I actually returned a similar Samsung unit because it didn't support forwarding per-frame during a pause (and other problems).

So, my posting here is not meant as a rant (though I suppose it is). I'm really frustrated with Sony over this. It's just stupid and reeks of bad R&D.

I would however appreciate some advice on WHICH MODEL I could get that would satisfy the above needs... for example:


- Resume after pause (even after power off or disc swap, yes the older Sony DVD player does this)

- No auto-power-off during pause (or at least be able to disable it)

- Fast performance (it shouldn't take a minute or so to start viewing a disc)


I don't care about all the fancy network-based features -- really, I have a Tivo and other things I can use those with.

Much appreciated!



Thanks....
post #861 of 2898
Welcome to the wonderful world of blu-ray. Resume sucks on all blu-ray players. All blu-ray players load a lot slower than DVD. Any many modern players have power saving "features" that can't be defeated. You could spend a lot more and get some marginal speed gains, but all will be disappointing.

So your blame is correctly placed on Sony, but not for their crappy player design but for inventing blu-ray and cramming it down our throats in the first place.
post #862 of 2898
dare i even say... no problems with the 5100! the remote has a dedicated open/close (eject) button.
post #863 of 2898
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Originally Posted by forrie View Post

I just got the bdp-s3100 and I'm very disappointed (and frustrated).That all being said, the performance of this unit is sub-par - it's slow, feels clunky. I actually returned a similar Samsung unit because it didn't support forwarding per-frame during a pause (and other problems).

To add to what mdavej said, I recently tried Sony S5100 and Samsung F5900 models, the top end of their basic line-ups. Both were about the same speed. I would guess the S3100 is as fast as the S5100, and if so, it is incredibly faster at all disc operations (loading, seeking, etc) than the 2008 Sony S350. While Bluray sucks in general aside from A/V quality, it approaches usability in the S5100. What sucks about the new players is their cheap plastic construction and horribly noisy drives, which are loud and whiny. The S5100 is built even more cheaply than the Samsung, and all four samples I tried vibrated at the start of discs and well into the middle, vibration that is palpable on the second shelf above the player on a very solid Anthrocart desk. Both samples of the Samsung were similarly loud and added a noise that sounded like insects at dusk, had no discrete on/off commands or skip forward/back, and juiced the colors and contrast unless you go into an obscure menu available only while a disc is playing and change the scene mode from Standard to Movies. On the plus side, the Samsung had a usable subtitles selector feature, while the stupid, stupid Sony only allows one to cycle through subtitles, a real PITA for a disc with a dozen subtitles!!!

So yeah, Bluray players do suck immensely, but speaking as someone coming from an S350, the speed of them is no longer a huge problem. I play a physical disc only once a month or so, and the current players make that tolerable. In contrast, I quit using the S350 because it was so miserably slow even infrequent use was not worth the aggravation. I ended up keeping the S5100.
post #864 of 2898
Looks like these are the symptoms of a new technology, with companies rushing to get product out there without caring much about quality. I bet this will change in the near future, as blu ray becomes as ubiquitous as standard DVD.

In the mean time, the features I mentioned are really important to me. So I need help finding the right model -- to reiterate:


- I want to be able to easily resume from where I left off, after power-down (or even a disc swap)

- Be able to pause and individually forward frame-per-frame (most Sonys do this, Samsung did not)

- Hopefully not power down and caput, after a long pause (but at least go back to the paused frame and resume!)


I think that covers it... anyone know which model is best suited for this?

I am new to blu ray, and really disappointed at the junk that's out there. I had expected better.



Thanks!
post #865 of 2898
Resume from BD disc is largely a BD authoring issue. More and more studios now issue discs that allow them to resume on all BD players. On the other hand, there is no BD player I know can resume BD-Java discs by itself. It just not going to happen.
post #866 of 2898
The Samsung model I tested had a menu item that will go to where you left off. But, it wasn't automatic, you had to select it as the movie played from the beginning -- which seems rather unintuitive.
post #867 of 2898
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Originally Posted by forrie View Post

The Samsung model I tested had a menu item that will go to where you left off. But, it wasn't automatic, you had to select it as the movie played from the beginning -- which seems rather unintuitive.

Is it from player's own menu or a menu on the BD disc? Like I mentioned above, a lot of new discs now are authored with resume feature. Typically this happens when you resume playing the disc and it will prompt you to resume or start over. It is not a feature of the player. What you described sounds like from the disc authoring which will work for any players. It will only popup after the disc is played (sometimes after all the previews). If it is a player feature, it will auto resume.

Also, not all BD discs can't resume. Some very early BD discs authored without BDJ will resume just fine on all BD players.
Edited by Foxbat121 - 6/23/13 at 4:44pm
post #868 of 2898
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Originally Posted by forrie View Post

Looks like these are the symptoms of a new technology, with companies rushing to get product out there without caring much about quality. I bet this will change in the near future, as blu ray becomes as ubiquitous as standard DVD.

BD isn't new and the technology has matured to where every new model will have a lot less of an improvement over the last. We are way past the first gen to second gen model improvements, especially when the top of the line models from major manufacturers are around $100.
post #869 of 2898
BD has been around for years yet we still don't have a simple, fundamental feature like resume. Some discs have it, others don't, and none handle it in a consistent way. It should have been in the spec, but it wasn't. Thanks Sony.
post #870 of 2898
I have a BDP-S780 which I just moved to our bedroom (replaced an older Panasonic BD player). The 780 is a very good player with good WiFi capability and is able to play a fairly wide range of video files off of a flash drive or an external hard drive. I replaced the 780 in the living room with an S5100 and my early impressions of the new rig are very positive. My eyes are telling me that the 5100 puts out a better overall picture than the 780 and that its upscaling of standard DVDs is definitely an improvement over the older unit. External MKV and MP4 files look very good. The WiFi connection is very solid and the onscreen keyboard is a vast improvement. I have has some minor AV sync issues but that will need to be ironed out between the 5100 and my Denon AVR. So far, though, the S5100 looks like a winner and it's small footprint allows it to sit more comfortably on top of my DVR (a Motorola DCX-3501 with a similarly small footprint and no top vents).
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