Done Deal's Contemporary Living Room Home Theater Build - Page 5
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All projectors have different throw distances so so it can only be a certain range of distance from the screen for any given size. Also the further back it is the less light gets to te screen which can sometimes be an issue.
No matter the screen size I'd want to have it more forward in the throw range if at all possible, you pay for those lumens when you buy the projector... IMO you should try to keep as many of those lumens as possible, even if the change isn't drastic.
Now just waiting on the Sound Anchor center channel stand and then I need to get unlazy and actually start doing some real work on the room.
So I got in a car accident and was out of commission for about a month but am starting to feel better. The latest project has been getting an iRule/Global Cache tablet remote setup going. It's a laboring process but I'm sure will be worth it in the end.
I also moved my bedroom couch with recliners into the theater because I was injured and couldn't sit in the one that was in there. Otherwise the room hasn't changed at all since my last pics.
Thanks man! I wasn't doing very well after the accident, not sure if you ever saw it on my350z but I had a 2012 Xterra Pro-4x with thick plate steel offroad bumpers I posted in 'other vehicles' back in the day and rear ended a vehicle at like 55mph and went straight into a guardrail. Accident was so bad it split the block, I was unconscious for like 40 minutes I guess. Outwardly it was pretty amazing because I barely had a scratch on me... but my back, neck, and brain were a wreck. I wasn't putting together very coherent thoughts for at least 3 weeks. LOL
Pretty much goes without saying that the Xterra is totaled. We're back in the Z/G platform with a pretty decent condition 2005 Laser Red G Coupe w/58k miles, stock with the factory Sport package/19" Rays wheels and factory junk Nav. I will need to get a new 4x4 at some point so that I can enjoy my Seadoo RXT-X this next summer but I've got some time, which is good as I'm still healing anyways. Overall doing decent, but not great.
iRule is definitely a love/hate deal. It's got a lot of options to configure things all different kinds of ways, really just limited by your own imagination and thoughtfulness you put into it when it comes to the UI experience. However the challenging part comes when its time to actually make all those functions work as intended. I'm probably about $400 deep into it at this point with a Pro license, 1 IP to IR gateway (supports 3-6 IR devices) and 2 IP to RS232 gateways that support 1 device each. I have my receiver communicating via IP control so no additional gateway box needed.
If I can get my current setup looking good and, more importantly, working well on my over 2 year old original Galaxy tab 10.1 I will probably buy an iPad Air for the central remote device as the Samsung is on it's last legs and pretty busted up as it's been a daily carried, transported and used device for over 2 years and has a very low res screen by today's standards. I guess that puts me about $1000 deep into iRule, but compared to custom Crestron etc systems that's still a fairly good value, has a better/more useful control device, and can be modified myself in the future in case of equipment changes or desired UI changes without hefty costs.
Even with the Pro license which affords using user generated images and whatnot, there still aren't a ton of decent visual options to use if you don't want to photoshop everything yourself (and I don't!) and even though I have very common equipment, there is still a lot to figure out on my own in regards to getting stuff to work. iRule's documentation isn't great, actually it's fairly poor for a product as diverse and complicated as it is.
I like the G a lot, it's nice to be back in the platform since I sold the Z 2 years ago to help fund the Seadoo purchase. It's interesting how incredibly similar it is to the Z, but very different at the same time.
As for the theater I'm hoping to finish it this year, but I've definitely been enjoying it. I have well over 1k hours on the original sony bulb, probably due for a change in a few hundred hours, though brightness is still satisfactory right now. I don't know of I posted it before but I got the projector power outlet wired and also the power outlet for the rack done. Really want to get dedicated seating this year too.
Checked out most all of the high end audio stuff today, I don't think I really learned anything but got to experience some cool demos. Sat through some very overpriced gear demos from companies I won't name, 100k speakers going through 20k amps... Can't say it sounded that great. The Focal, SVS and Martin Logan demos were good. SVS announced their new line of subwoofers, I'm sure they are absolutely fantastic but they had them down quite a bit, I'm sure to not disturb everyone in the building.
The peachtree integrated's were quite a bit bigger than I imagined and appears they can power anything. I'd love to have the 65x2 deco with KEF LS50's for an office set up but the Audioengine A5+'s also sounded great and are probably a better price point for my application. I'm starting to get into headphone audio at the low end range, just got a set of audiotechnica 50's that I've been loving, I wish I could have brought them along to demo dacs and amps but it would have been a total B to carry them around everywhere. Mostly just curiosity, as I honestly don't know what effect if any they would have on headphones like mine.
All in all, I'd say I still feel that the hi end audio gear is the biggest scam there is and I preferred the low to mid range stuff more. SVS had a their set up powered by a receiver, the Ultra set is reasonably priced, and it sounded great. I probably wouldn't trade my RF-7 II set up for the ultras but I'd definitely swap out my subs in a heartbeat. The Focals had great low end extension, and the Martin Logan electrostatics ran in 5 channel (all full size) with huge amps created a lovely sound that seemed to make the room feel alive.
Talked to a guy at minidsp about LFE EQ'g which was cool. I've read a lot about it on here but haven't ventured down that path myself, so it was cool to have a quick chat with him.
Hey SlippyZ, yeah I've been meaning to post some thoughts.
Day 1 in the Venitian listening to all of the audio gear was a great opportunity. I enjoyed it so much I've already signed up for Audiofest, which is in Denver in November I believe it is.
Day 2 at the Convention center was awful. That's where all of the TV manufacturers were, along with other big companies like the auto companies, Klipsch, and PC-type gear, among a bunch of other trash. Klipsch and Def Tech disappointed greatly, a couple speakers just sitting there, not even plugged in. Which leads me to my next point, this is basically how all of the booths were at the Convention Center, all style and no substance. The best time I had was at the Sennheiser booth listening to some fairly highend headphones (700's, 800's) connected to $2k headphone amps. The second best (but still pretty terrible) was the new TV's that of course are being talked about everywhere you look.
The TV's are large, for TV's, and the 4K demo loops they were showing looked amazing. I've heard it stated elsewhere and I can repeat here, it's very close to looking through a window. I missed the Vizio booth, not sure where that was, but I saw the Samsung, LG, Sony, Panasonic and a couple other TV booths. The curved Samsung 105" really did look great, but the curved form factor is useless IMO. With the smaller sizes it would actually be a hindrance, but even with 105" I don't think its wide enough to justify the curve. Since people like you and I are used to projectors which big screens, you lose a lot of wow factor with the size, whereas most people looking at them were obviously enamored with the size I'm sitting there thinking... kinda small. The bonus of course is not having the downfalls of a projector, where you need to control light, can't walk in front of, etc. But the technology right now for even 100-110" is so expensive it's going to be at least another 10 years before you start seeing the divisional shift where traditional projector owners are thinking of going to back to a TV screen for their theater setups. My take away is that when 4k projectors get to a reasonably price, maybe 4K or so, I'M IN! Until then I'm certainly not suffering with my Sony HW50, and at that time maybe there will actually be some content available.
Did I say my second day at the LVCC sucked yet? Man it was awful. There was people EVERYWHERE, and they are completely clueless, retarded, and inconsiderate. I literally cannot count how many times people virtually sprinted right in front of me, then stopped dead in their tracks. It would have been worth it, had the booths that were there had a lot of substance to them, but really I got less out of it than simply looking at a catalog with the products on them. Most of the products there weren't even being demo'd, and when they were it was under such terrible conditions that there really wasn't much to make of it. DJ's with blasting music everywhere, models dancing, honestly it was more of a giant club atmosphere that happened to have some electronics sitting around than any place to make any form of an objective opinion about any product's capabilities or performance. After a few hours there I told my girlfriend (who might I add soldiered through the entire thing without a single complaint) to get me out of there before I wound up in jail. I knew I was clearly done with the scene there when the last person who cut in front of me and then of course stopped dead in their tracks I called a MF'r right to their face.
Lesson learned, I like the boutique audio booths located in individual hotel suites without a bajillion people.
Edit - Didn't see the cloud gaming stuff.
Edited by Done Deal DR - 1/15/14 at 2:40pm
That is pretty cool you got to see those 4K tv's and this Sennheiser headphones! But I think we are on the same wavelength that we are going to wait it out till 4K pj's come down in price because overall value and a 4K would be a bigger deal on a huge screen than anything smaller than 100". Sucks to hear people were jerks out there and that booths like Klipsch had their booths in disarray. I would love to hear the Palladium series speakers and check out the boutique audio just to see what the rich get to play with! THanks for sharing your thoughts at CES man!
I should mention that there were a set of Palladium's sitting in Klipsch's booth not doing anything. I have a picture of them but don't recall which ones they were, and it certainly wasn't a setting where an opinion could be formed, other than saying they looked nice.
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WOw, your homes are amazing :) My Dad has recently renovated ours but it's not as nice as the pictures that I have seen here. However, he used some really nice ideas following the images from http://houzz.com, http://founterior and some other fine source.
p.s. I really liked the living room with the power music towers LOL :p