Before the Noesis was available the the Cat 8 was still better than the T8 and the Cat 12 was better than the T12 even with a comparable amplifier. In either situation the Cats always gave more but also cost more.
Now that the Noesis is out that just might have changed or at least evened the playing field. 3 Noesis powered with an equivelant amplifier (The Cat 12 uses 2000 wpc) whether needed or not it needs to be the same to compare and $$$$ wise we would still be talking about $3500. for powered Cat 12 or $3500 for a Noesis powered by a D-Sonic 1500/2400 wpc. (Trying to match price and I think it's a fair equivalent).
If that was the choice I know it would no longer be obvious. It seems that the Noesis may have the better middle section but it would be based solely on the performance of the whole speaker presentation and not just one single part. There may be a new sheriff in town and his name is not Reggie Hammond !!! Its Noesis
I sure can't call it but I would love to hear the comparison for myself.
I understand that the Noesis may not need anything more than an AVR but apples to apples I am trying to make it the same.
Cat 12 = 3500. Noesis + M2 1500wpc = 3500.Edited by countryWV - 1/14/13 at 6:37am