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post #481 of 823
The purple team went first and missed. The orange team missed later on so that it was tied. The purple team then made the 4th goal and in all fairness the orange team should have been given the same number of opportunities to shoot and could have tied the score again. This is similar to penalty kicks in soccer. Each team gets an equal number of shots. In this case the purple team received a huge advantage by going first. If I had been on the orange team I think I would have voiced a loud objection.
post #482 of 823
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Originally Posted by RJO View Post

The purple team went first and missed. The orange team missed later on so that it was tied. The purple team then made the 4th goal and in all fairness the orange team should have been given the same number of opportunities to shoot and could have tied the score again. This is similar to penalty kicks in soccer. Each team gets an equal number of shots. In this case the purple team received a huge advantage by going first. If I had been on the orange team I think I would have voiced a loud objection.

Yep, agreed. Every other competition they have rounds, to make it even # of trys. That was why this
was so odd. Maybe, they announced this to the team in the instructions before they began (just not aired like the schoolyard picks). But it deviated from the norm, that's for sure.

Also, they could've ended it abruptly or the challenge may have gone on for awhile since it was pretty easy to just lob it high biggrin.gif
post #483 of 823
Maybe they did rock paper scissors to see which team went first and the purple team won?
post #484 of 823
Should not have mattered who went first. Each team should have an equal number of opportunities. It would have been more exciting if they were tied at 4 then continued until one team made it and the other didn't. Performing under pressure is never given and lends itself to being entertaining.
post #485 of 823
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Should not have mattered who went first. Each team should have an equal number of opportunities. It would have been more exciting if they were tied at 4 then continued until one team made it and the other didn't. Performing under pressure is never given and lends itself to being entertaining.

yes, of course, they should've have had equal number of trys. That's why I brought it up in the first place, very odd.
post #486 of 823
Dawn has an almost illogical fear of "switching things up", even when it may benefit her ...
This seems due to the fact that she seems to be hard on herself about her last season not telling on Cocheran ..
Now, it seems she will simply "tell" on anyone that deviates from the group, regardless of who, when or why , or if it seems to make sense or not, due to her new internal code ...
post #487 of 823
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Dawn has an almost illogical fear of "switching things up", even when it may benefit her ...
This seems due to the fact that she seems to be hard on herself about her last season not telling on Cocheran ..
Now, it seems she will simply "tell" on anyone that deviates from the group, regardless of who, when or why , or if it seems to make sense or not, due to her new internal code ...

I can't really fault Dawn for this. She'd probably see herself as at best 4th if she joined the new alliace behind Malcom, Reynold, and Eddie. Wheras she currently envisions herself as stting at the end next to Cochran and Phillip. She and Cochran seem tight, everyone seems content to keep Phillip as a goat. Andrea has made herself a bit of a target once the alliance turns on itself, and who knows with Brenda/Erik and where they fall.
post #488 of 823
I have to admit, unlike his last outing w/ Boston Rob, This time, if Philip makes it to the end, I think he will have a decent case to win the game, almost regardless of who he sits next to .. ...
He's done OK in challenges, managed to get rid of threats to his advancement, held together a successful alliance , got people to vote with him, ect ...
Not saying that Cochrane, or anyone else at the end w/ Philip, wouln't win, but it probably would not be unreasonable to think that at this point Cochrane or the others may want to look at who instead of Philip they would want to sit next to at the end ...
post #489 of 823
Perhaps they actually did have an equal number of shots and they just didn't show the last shot because it was a miss and thus didn't affect the outcome. [ I don't watch all the online extras, but perhaps someone who does might know].

With all the crazy strategizing in that episode, I'm sure they were cutting every second of fluff that wasn't absolutely legally necessary to make room for all the voting discussions.
post #490 of 823
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Originally Posted by Mac The Knife View Post

Perhaps they actually did have an equal number of shots and they just didn't show the last shot because it was a miss and thus didn't affect the outcome. [ I don't watch all the online extras, but perhaps someone who does might know].

With all the crazy strategizing in that episode, I'm sure they were cutting every second of fluff that wasn't absolutely legally necessary to make room for all the voting discussions.

This was my thought as well. There may have been a another shot that simply didn't make the edit. I noticed *something* early in the show that was cut out, something that they normally do show. But now I can't think of what that *something* was. redface.gif But I recall being surprised by its absence last night. I'd have to watch the first 10 minutes or so of the episode again to jog my memory... unless someone else noticed the omission also . . .
post #491 of 823
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Originally Posted by Mac The Knife View Post

Perhaps they actually did have an equal number of shots and they just didn't show the last shot because it was a miss and thus didn't affect the outcome. [ I don't watch all the online extras, but perhaps someone who does might know].

With all the crazy strategizing in that episode, I'm sure they were cutting every second of fluff that wasn't absolutely legally necessary to make room for all the voting discussions.

No, because they said, next shot for Purple wins it. And the shot before, they said next shot for Orange wins it. Both can't hold true if it is a round by round basis - and that's regardless of what was cut out.

Also, yeah, they could've edited, but they would've edited out something in the middle, not the final shot for the team that could've tied it - which would've been more dramatic than any other shot. It must not have been a round by round setup, for like the first time ever.
post #492 of 823
Here's Jeff's comments on the reward challenge:

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Loved this episode, but I want to start with a procedural question for you about the reward challenge. We saw the purple team throw first, and the purple team was the first one to get to four points and were then declared the winners. But shouldn’t the orange team — since they were shown as having gone second — have been allowed one more throw to match and tie and possibly send the contest into another tiebreaker round? Or was there more to the competition that didn’t make it to the final edit?
JEFF PROBST: Good eyes. That match was originally played to five but due to so much great stuff happening in the episode we shaved it down to four points! You bring up an important point — there are times where we might reduce the number of total points played in a challenge but it obviously never changes the outcome. Whoever wins, wins. Sometimes we just have too much show and in this case, that’s a good thing!! I love how closely you watch our show and I always love it when you love an episode!

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/04/11/survivor-caramoan-jeff-probst-episode-9/
post #493 of 823
Michael, thanks for posting, somehow Probst avoids answering the crux of the question, not sure if that was intentional or not, ha.
post #494 of 823
Oh never mind, I think Jeff is saying they really did play to 5. Just odd to not include the final of the challenge and exclude some middle portion.
post #495 of 823
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Oh never mind, I think Jeff is saying they really did play to 5. Just odd to not include the final of the challenge and exclude some middle portion.

yeah usually they do some "time warp" editing where they fade in/out a bunch of times to show the passage of time. Odd that they didn't do that for this one.
post #496 of 823
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strange tribal council. looks like malcolm is on the bottom of the pecking order with the favorites.... which is fine by me actually. i don't understand the whole brenda situation. except for her winning the immunity challenge, she might as well be invisible. they've barely aired a word from her.
Malcolm and Corinne were always at 6 or worse in that group which is why they tried to change things up . I liked Malcolm last season but I thought it was going to be hard for him to play back to back seasons especially with a group of FAVES that have relationships already established. He was toast after last week along with Eddie and Reynold.
The whole show last night was really entertaining but it was hard to get a feel for what was going on at time because the editing seemed misleading. Eddie blabbing to Andrea ,Malcolm blabbing to Sherri made no sense at all.
I think the best shot at winning has to go to Cochran right now as he seems to be going unnoticed while everyone else is busy freaking out. It will be interesting to see who the goat is for the F3 but Sherri looks like someone the FAVEs want to use. Erik and Brenda are just there and I don't think the core four want them around at the end.
Phillip might have a chance ( slight ) to win with two big goats but I don't think he could pull that off. Dawn is just too dramatic to get any respect from a jury but has a good chance to get there. Andrea has a chance but she seems too unsteady at times.
post #497 of 823
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And, two of the most attractive!!

Minus the makeup, the idiotic 6 inch pumps and especially the dumb ass earings Parvati is wearing...and Parvati is the epitome of her last name..shallow. and Corinne exclaims how she doesn't like children. Beware the women who are anti humanity. Beautiful women outwardly who are uglier with makeup, but so ugly inside. Pity the man that gets stuck with either of those two...then again if one is naive enough...lol.
post #498 of 823
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... *something* early in the show that was cut out . . .

Watching again on the DVR, there was no "return to camp" sequence after the reward challenge. It cut from the "reward" picnic lunch, to a commercial, then resumed with Eddie and Andrea at the Blue Lagoon scene. Then it proceeded directly into the immunity challenge. Not a big deal but reinforces that they were editing out stuff that normally would be shown, to make more time for other stuff (to confuse us about who was going home).
post #499 of 823
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Has Brenda's gimpy knee even been mentioned on the show? Maybe I missed it if it was, but it's like the show has it's blinders on in regards to it.

I think they should devote an entire episode to just interviewing Brenda and showing her highlights and discussing her knee. biggrin.gif
post #500 of 823
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I think they should devote an entire episode to just interviewing Brenda and showing her highlights and discussing her knee. biggrin.gif

I'd sure vote yes to see more "highlights" .. wink.gif
post #501 of 823
Thread Starter 
I believe Malcolms move at tribal Wednesday should be placed in the Survivor Hall of Fame ..

Sure, it turned out not to be needed, but it was sheer brilliance and done on the fly .. a move like that defines what Survivor should be all about .. especially Outwit and Outplay ..
post #502 of 823
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Originally Posted by Hughmc View Post

Minus the makeup, the idiotic 6 inch pumps and especially the dumb ass earings Parvati is wearing...and Parvati is the epitome of her last name..shallow. and Corinne exclaims how she doesn't like children. Beware the women who are anti humanity. Beautiful women outwardly who are uglier with makeup, but so ugly inside. Pity the man that gets stuck with either of those two...then again if one is naive enough...lol.

I don't know if I'd use the term "getting stuck" when it comes to any relationship Parv or Corinne may have either now or in the future .. after all, there are plenty of men that fit your description as well ..

And I don't think I would "pity" the man that "gets stuck" .. wink.gif
post #503 of 823
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I believe Malcolms move at tribal Wednesday should be placed in the Survivor Hall of Fame ..

Sure, it turned out not to be needed, but it was sheer brilliance and done on the fly .. a move like that defines what Survivor should be all about .. especially Outwit and Outplay ..
I agree. I also thought the move was brilliant. Not only did he figure it out (almost) on the fly, he thought enough to talk Reynold into giving him his idol rather than just using his own.

It the Favorites had voted Malcom, his maneuver certainly would have been in the top couple moves of all time.

Either the vote going for Malcom and him saving himself or going for Reynold and him costing himself would have made for great theater. On the other hand, I don't think any viewers are sad to see Michael go, so it works out.
post #504 of 823
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I believe Malcolms move at tribal Wednesday should be placed in the Survivor Hall of Fame ..

Sure, it turned out not to be needed, but it was sheer brilliance and done on the fly .. a move like that defines what Survivor should be all about .. especially Outwit and Outplay ..

 

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I agree. I also thought the move was brilliant. Not only did he figure it out (almost) on the fly, he thought enough to talk Reynold into giving him his idol rather than just using his own.

It the Favorites had voted Malcom, his maneuver certainly would have been in the top couple moves of all time.

Either the vote going for Malcom and him saving himself or going for Reynold and him costing himself would have made for great theater. On the other hand, I don't think any viewers are sad to see Michael go, so it works out.

 

 

I would have to give Malcolm big credit for getting Reynold to give up his instead of using his own.  But beyond that I don't know...  Since the Faves alliance had decided to go the safe route and vote out Michael anyway, there would have been no risk in trying to draw out idols by Phillip saying that stuff.  It would have been the smart play and Malcolm was going to know as soon as the votes were revealed that there was no longer any pretense of him being in with them anyhow.  Maybe that's giving them too much credit but it is possible that's what was going on. I rewatched it again last night and I still can't decide whether Phillip's words were meant to cause more pressure to produce idols, or just him rambling.  If it was their plan, then either it was some good acting from the rest of the alliance or some good editing.  The looks they showed on some of their faces as Phillip was stuttering out his words really did make it seem like they were disturbed with him for opening his mouth at all. 

 

 

ron

post #505 of 823
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post

I believe Malcolms move at tribal Wednesday should be placed in the Survivor Hall of Fame ..

Sure, it turned out not to be needed, but it was sheer brilliance and done on the fly .. a move like that defines what Survivor should be all about .. especially Outwit and Outplay ..

I have to give Malcolm credit for making the move, but I also have to give Phillip credit for baiting the trap. They all knew they were going to vote Michael out, but he gave Malcolm enough rope to hang himself. The problem Malcolm/Reynold in the last tribal and this one was not moving to Sherri before now. Only a desperate person would think an alliance with the strongest guys in the game would be smart. Neither Dawn or Eric are in a desperate position.
post #506 of 823
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by spid View Post

I have to give Malcolm credit for making the move, but I also have to give Phillip credit for baiting the trap. They all knew they were going to vote Michael out, but he gave Malcolm enough rope to hang himself. The problem Malcolm/Reynold in the last tribal and this one was not moving to Sherri before now. Only a desperate person would think an alliance with the strongest guys in the game would be smart. Neither Dawn or Eric are in a desperate position.

I'd say you're giving Phillip way to much credit .. if he's that good, he should win this season ..

I'm hoping the target gets firmly painted on Agent Phil's back next week ..

And, yes, I'd be happy if that target was on Sherri's back as well ..
post #507 of 823
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Originally Posted by spid View Post

I have to give Malcolm credit for making the move, but I also have to give Phillip credit for baiting the trap. They all knew they were going to vote Michael out, but he gave Malcolm enough rope to hang himself. The problem Malcolm/Reynold in the last tribal and this one was not moving to Sherri before now. Only a desperate person would think an alliance with the strongest guys in the game would be smart. Neither Dawn or Eric are in a desperate position.
Given how crazy the editing is and how out of sequence events are portrayed I find it hard to get a grip on what was going on with Phillip and his speech at tribal. Malcolm was already on the outs with the rest of the Faves so any damage caused by Phillip baiting Malcolm was probably minimal at best. I don't think Malcolm/Reynold wanted to work with Sherri because they thought they didn't need her and they couldn't stand her. Malcolm thought he had Erik and Dawn snowed Corinne into trusting her. Why Malcolm went to Sherri this time around is really confusing since they chose to vote her out previously. Erik seems to be trying to go forward without trusting anyone probably hoping for some IC wins going forward as Malcolm, Eddie and Reynold get voted out. He isn't desperate because he isn't playing to win.
post #508 of 823
I went to the CBS Survivor site and there are "Secret Scenes" that are mostly extended Confessional interviews. There is one with Brenda speaking about her win in the Immunity Challenge. I can kind of see why they chose not to air any of it. There wasn't much compelling footage in there. It did confirm what I mentioned earlier that she is very comfortable in the water and that allowed her to stay calm in the challenge. I do hope they show more from her in the next few episodes.
post #509 of 823
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Originally Posted by mgkdragn View Post


I'd say you're giving Phillip way to much credit .. if he's that good, he should win this season ..

I'm hoping the target gets firmly painted on Agent Phil's back next week ..

And, yes, I'd be happy if that target was on Sherri's back as well ..

 

I agree.  I am just not buying the idea that Phillip was baiting Malcolm with the intent of drawing out an idol.    He was just doing his standard crazy rambling and the rest of his alliance members were cringing the whole time.  It worked out perfectly for him, but I seriously doubt it was a conscious strategy.   

 

I'm sure this was just the edit, but it was pretty funny how quickly Andrea went from confident shot caller to distraught victim when Eddie told her she might get a few votes.   It was basically an irrational fear (as Dawn tried to explain to her) that ironically, saved her butt.   It seemed like the power alliance was making all the right moves for all the wrong reasons.   If they take it to the end, I really really hope that Cochran can find a way to win.  I think he's the only legit player in that alliance.    Andrea showed how emotionally fragile she can be ... which may have saved her this time, but in the long run could kill her.   Dawn is an emotional mess who seems to be getting worse.    Phillip is a delusional fool.  Erik is a fool.  Sherri seems to think very highly of herself, but  lucked into her current position.  Let's see, who am I forgetting?  Oh yeah, that Brenda girl who, according to cbs.com, is also on the island.   It is a true mystery as to why they aren't giving her more air time.   Has Survivor ever had a cast member get this far with such little air time?  

post #510 of 823
It reminded me of "Lost", keeping all options open like that.

At the end of the day, Malcolm Phillip and Sherri, continue to the final.

I think they will get there. Malcolm voted what they told him to vote, and he can claim that he tricked Raynold because he wanted him gone, as the plan was! It's his word against Dawn, and the facts make her look bad.

That's the reason for her breakdown.


As for Parvati..... i would do anything for her!!! All she has to do is ask!! tongue.gif
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