Netflix launches 3D and SuperHD through specific ISPs - Page 2

I second this!!!......anyone with a TV this is great news but anyone with a Home Theater or HD surround system then it still is like everything else, Vudu, iTunes, Etc........
WE NEED HD AUDIO!!!!!

is timewarner New York capable of Super HD?

Well instead of complaing about what we dont have ,how bout getting whats going on now and looking to the future and more improvments..
So for the charter customers the number to call is.
314 965 0 five five five This is the corporte no to request netflix open connect.
Seems to me they are trying to improve. Help get charter and others on board.

I'm a UK user of Netflix (UK) and the SuperHD logo has been up there for at least a week (not seen any 3D logo though). I use the WDTV SMP player for accessing Netflix and an Xbox360. I've only seen "SuperHD" logos on the WDTV. I only have 8mbps internet so no idea if I'm actually getting SuperHD as opposed to "average, run of the mill" HD?

THANK FREAKING GOD! Frontier FIOS is on the SuperHD list! ONE thing they can get right, after not offering any app for Xbox 360 like the Verizon FiOS app.

What why would win8 be supported and not win7? That makes no sense at all.

It really irritates me when companies get together to figure out ways to force people to upgrade for no reason at all.
Edited by jeffkro - 1/16/13 at 10:01am

I highly doubt it


DJoel

Yup, not sure where 4K is going. It doesn't seem like its going to be streamable in the near future and sony has said there are no plans for 4K blu-ray. So what does this leave us?

If you want a peak into what Open Connect does this click on this link.

I was a bit surprised to see that my local, privately owned phone company - Comporium Communications is using this. Anecdotal information would suggest that the smaller ISPs are jumping on the bandwagon while the larger ISPs are not.

Doesn't look like Fios will be apart of this

Verizon and Google will have their own tricks up their sleeves.

It's going to be the wild, wild west played out on the internet due to basic greed by the players involved as they battle among themselves for turf. This happens during every change in A/V technology, but because of the internet it's now happening on speed.

The average customers will get confused and screwed... and UHD will die a quick death. Just because everyone wants to be in control and have all the streaming content coming from them. No sharing, no playing nice with each other.

Sony will have a box, Paramount will have a box, Universal/Comcast... Verizon, Netflix, Google, Apple, Roku, Amazon... and on and on. Some will have certain content, others will have something else. Cats and dogs living together! Mass hysteria!!

That's why a single UHD media disc with top notch features and performance must be ironed out and ironed out ASAP for the good of the industry.

It's still going to be bluray. Bluray is typically seen with single and double layer discs, but they already have protypes of 10 layers which gives you 250GB of space. UHD is only going to be 25-30% larger in file size than HD is right now. BDXL is 3 and 4 layers, 100 and 128GB respectively, was speced out 2 years ago.

4x the pixels and only 25-30% larger file size... Either this is false speculation or UHD is going to look like you have vasoline smeared all over your screen.

Well don't take my word for it. You can set the quality slider where ever you want on an encoder.
http://news.yahoo.com/ces-unveils-big-tvs-ultrahigh-definition-210338695--finance.html

But you'll still want LESS compression, even if you can cram cram cram with H.265. This has to look outstanding on even larger displays than ever before. They're pushing 65 inches and above... and I'm sure more emphasis on projectors. If they cram too much... the artifacts will be noticeable. More noticeable than Blu-ray at 1080p using H.264.

And this percentage being floated probably also only considers 8 bit color. That has got to go out in the trash with yesterday's dirty diapers! You absolutely need at least 10 bit 4:2:2 color with UHD, and that will need more space. Even the RED player will allow for 10 bit 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 encoding.

Yah, but you are forgetting one thing. UHD's importance is primarily being driven to sell displays not based on actual need. UHD looks amazing when you are right in front of the display, but in an actual use scenario you are going to be sitting say 6-10ft away on average. You will not be able to tell the difference at distance between 2k or 4k. Again, the impetus for the encoding to be on the high side is just not there.

Anyways all of this is probably best suited for its own thread.

http://carltonbale.com/1080p-does-matter/

Edited by Despoiler - 1/16/13 at 4:49pm

What do you mean Super HD is a farce? In what respect? In relation to what exactly? It's either no different to the older highest quality 5300 kb/s stream or its the same.

I dont think anyone (even Netflix) was suggesting is was as good as BD.

SuperHD is definitely better because it has a top tier 7Mb/s stream that did not exist before.

Are people still paying for Netflix?

"Netflix is terrible, it reminds me of when I was younger going to the Rx Place to rent "new" movies. They would sucker you in with a new title and when you were there searching through everything it was all old stuff you've already seen elsewhere. I would be nice if they offered atleast full trilogies of movies, like all three Transformer movies. Such a waste of money, IMO."

Precisely. I've had it four different times now and all four times I've lmao over how laughably dreadful the content is.

But you have the drooling zombies so dead set on- wait for it- "cutting the cord" that they'll take any free or low-rent content they can get their hands on.


"But it's only $8!!!"

Go figure.


James
Edited by mastermaybe - 1/16/13 at 5:06pm

Time-Warner currently doesn't support it, just spoke to tech, say they are in negotiations, but going slow.
My current Netflix service is great here in upstate NY, my disc (Blu-Ray) turn around is 2 days. My steaming is great with no buffering. Been with Netflix since 2004, no regrets.

720P, 1080i, and 1080P are resolutions and either interlaced or progressive. You can encode a given resolution at whatever bitrate you choose. Netflix has a couple of different bitrates in each of their tiers. SuperHD is 1080p @ 5Mb/s or 7Mb/s. It just replaces their XHigh tier and adds a 7MB/s stream.

Inference is only confusing when there isn't a context. We have a context of Netflix and Netflix has provided a definition for what their tiers mean. Your argument falls in on itself in that if you define 1080p as HD then you can't explain how 720p is also HD. Both are HD, but different resolutions. Netflix defines 720p as Med HD and 1080p and SuperHD. High HD is used for 1080i.

Done.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_video

I think the disconnect is that you don't understand there are technical specifications and then there are marketing or company specifications/implementations. Like I said, context. It's the same deal with 4G wireless having a technical definition and then ATT and TMobile calling HSPA+ 42 4G based on speed equivalencies.

As opposed to the fools who pay for cable 10x or more as much for the same content, only more current? Netflix was never meant to replace anything as far it's streaming goes, it's simply is another way to consume media, if after 4 times for signing up you couldn't figure it out, then I'm not surprised you post your 2 cents here in this thread that has nothing to with your perceived impression of Netflix content and it's usefulness to you, but rather a possible higher quality transmission for some via new technology they propose.