Originally Posted by fschris
i can't ever imagine streaming a movie. i invested $$$'s of money into my system I have a hard time thinking that streaming would ever be as good as sliding a blue ray into a oppo player. maybe in 15 years we will be able to stream a 108-p movie but in 15 years we will have 4k. will netflix networks be ready to stream 4k?
Agreed! The high-end 150" home theaters deserve the very best in audio and video.
Netflix would not be there yet.
I have had a projector for a long time, though when I moved to a smaller condo a few years ago, I had to retire that and get a flat panel.
But, with Netflix exceeding cable/satellite quality, it's good enough for the kitchen and bedroom sized HDTV's. And 50" - 60" living room home theaters.
The picture quality of "SuperHD" streams (market term, I know) is blowing away Cogeco/Charter/Verizon/UVerse/FibeTV/Rogers/etc (if you manage to get the full bitrate) -- and the better Netflix 5.8Mbps streams look better than *some* OTA 19Mbps ATSC MPEG2 streams. Normally should only be a 2:1 ratio for H.264 versus MPEG2 but this attributed to encoder difference -- Netflix *seems* to be getting 4k masters for some material (at least for certain movies like "Hugo") and then doing very efficient Amazon-cloud supercomputed eyeIO-assisted, intensively multi-passed encodes of H.264 (Netflix has an economic incentive to use the best possible offline multipass encoding), versus a simple realtime single-pass MPEG2 encoder, especially one that encodes all 60 fields rather than just 24 frames, and especially if it's a re-encode (e.g. broadcasting from a Blu-Ray master) This apples-to-bananas "4k-direct-to-Netflix-using-a-supercomputed-encode" lopsided encoder advantage allows Netflix to get an advantage on top of the normal 2:1 H.264-vs-MPEG2 ratio, and this is what seems to makes a 5.8 Mbps H.264 "SuperHD" encode often look better a 19 Mbps ATSC stream (granted, many 19 Mbps ATSC OTA broadcasts look really good, and some better if they're offline multi-pass MPEG2 encodes rather than single-pass live realtime MPEG2 encoding). In fact, I can say I'm not able to use freely available H.264 software tools to make 5.8 Mbps H.264 bitstreams nearly as good as the 5.8 Mbps H.264 that's on Netflix "Super HD" today. So, obviously, Netflix is doing an incredible 5.8 stream (packing as much image quality in 5.8 Mbps) -- I'd say for certain movies, it looks roughly as good (or exceeds) most 10-12 Mbps home-made H.264 streams (e.g. HTPC server playback), since many of those are recompresses rather than encode-from-master. Case in point. Many satellite broadcasts and UVerse bitrates are worse, and they're often realtime re-encodes (recompress passes = more artifacts) rather than intensive offline direct-from-4k master encodes.
Therefore, one might argue: Picture-quality-wise, how can you watch cable/satellite, but avoid Netflix?
(Assuming you only watch Blu-Rays, and only in your projector home theater)Edited by Mark Rejhon - 1/18/13 at 4:01pm