or Connect
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › LCD Flat Panel Displays › Official Vizio M-Series Razor Mxx1i thread
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Official Vizio M-Series Razor Mxx1i thread - Page 61

post #1801 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by --Sclaws View Post

I was asked to post ISF calibration settings for my 80", so here they are. Note that every input WILL vary, so YMMV if you choose to try these settings. I had them calibrate my in-use inputs (HDMI 1,2,3), and each result was somewhat different.

HDMI1 / DISH
• Picture Mode: Calibrated
o Backlight 36
o Brightness 54
o Contrast 45
o Color 30
o Tint -4
o Sharpness 18
• Color Tempurature: Normal
o Red Gain 155
o Green Gain 128
o Blue Gain 128
o Red Offset 137
o Green Offset 126
o Blue Offset 127
• Advanced Picture
o Auto Brightness Control Off
o Black Detail Off
o Smart Dimming Off
o Smooth Motion Effect Off
o Reduce Signal Noise Off
o Reduce Block Noise Off
o Film Mode Auto

HDMI2 / PS3
• Picture Mode: Calibrated
o Backlight 37
o Brightness 53
o Contrast 60
o Color 35
o Tint -2
o Sharpness 19
• Color Temperature: Normal
o Red Gain 143
o Green Gain 115
o Blue Gain 128
o Red Offset 151
o Green Offset: 128
o Blue Offset 112
• Advanced Picture
o Auto Brightness Control Off
o Black Detail Off
o Smart Dimming Off
o Smooth Motion Effect Off
o Reduce Signal Noise Off
o Reduce Block Noise Off
o Film Mode Auto

HDMI 3 / HTPC
o Picture Mode: Calibrated
o Backlight 45
o Brightness 54
o Contrast 59
o Color 34
o Tint -5
o Sharpness 21
• Color Temperature: Normal
o Red Gain 142
o Green Gain 128
o Blue Gain 128
o Red Offset 151
o Green Offset 129
o Blue Offset 113
• Advanced Picture
o Auto Brightness Control Off
o Black Detail Off
o Smart Dimming Off
o Smooth Motion Effect Off
o Reduce Signal Noise Off
o Reduce Block Noise Off
o Film Mode Auto

Thanks for doing this, ...... however something not right with these values. If you dial them in as you have listed them you end up with an almost black screen! The color temp values seems way too low!
post #1802 of 8756
Buying it tonight! I've been dying to get a 3D TV and this fits the bill. Can't wait to watch Avatar and Prometheus tonight.
post #1803 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinmat View Post

Thanks for doing this, ...... however something not right with these values. If you dial them in as you have listed them you end up with an almost black screen! The color temp values seems way too low!

There seems to be at least two different versions of the M series: they vary in the adjustment range available in the color temperature menu. The 65" (and perhaps other glossy screen models in the M series) has a very different range than the 70". Dr. Shankenteins settings (page 19 of this thread) worked very well on my 65".
post #1804 of 8756
Yes, for me too with the 55" ..... best so far
post #1805 of 8756
I used those settings for my 70" and it made the picture much better than out of the box.
Thanks for sharing them! smile.gif
post #1806 of 8756
Has anyone with a 60" had their unit calibrated or have settings they can share? Both the settings here don't appear to be accurate for that unit or at least mine. If no one has, I may try and calibrate mine this weekend with the WOW disc. If I do, I'll post my settings. Thanks in advance.
post #1807 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinmat View Post

Thanks for doing this, ...... however something not right with these values. If you dial them in as you have listed them you end up with an almost black screen! The color temp values seems way too low!

HDMI 2 seems pretty good .... I like the starting point of that one for sure!!!

Keep in mind those settings are gonna be more driven to the 60/70/80 inch models (the A3 models) ... your 55" will not take these values correctly I'm sure.
post #1808 of 8756
Vizio gave me the run around when I asked them about their xvt series though it is technically current since they also displayed it at ces :P

Dustin-We are always working on our current technology.We do not have any release dates for upcoming products. As new products become available they will be listed on our website at www.vizio.com Check regularly to receive all of the latest news and updates from VIZIO. -Ava
post #1809 of 8756
I'm in a really tough spot here. I want to upgrade my 5 year old Samsung 46" to either a 60" or 65". I've had my eye on two sets right now. The Samsung UN60F6300 or the Vizio M601d-A3R. 3D gives me a splitting headache but I do like that 240hz on the Vizio. I understand the UN60F6300 isn't the newest and greatest but it fits my budget and it's a brand I'm familiar with. Reading almost this entire thread I can see many people are happy. I may have missed it but does the 60" have a matte or glossy screen? Has anyone tried any gaming on the M601d and if you have is there any noticeable lag? Does anyone know the refresh rate? I know the F6300 60" has 8ms.

New here so sorry if I'm asking too many questions.

Thanks

Edit: I know Vizio is coming out with a new firmware update also to fix the remote control issue and change it over to wifi instead of IR. Anyone know when this is coming?
Edited by JR1025 - 6/26/13 at 5:09pm
post #1810 of 8756
Ok, an opinion question for you guys.

I've been having an issue with the on screen keyboard for netflix since I bough the TV. (55 inch) Vizio's support along with costco are both mystified. So Vizio is sending a tech to come out and replace the mainboard and the power board in the TV.eek.gif

The question is do I Let the tech come out and try to fix it. (everything else seems to be working great)

Or just take the whole thing back to costco and get a new one. Since the thing is 2 weeks old.mad.gif

Costco is an hour and a half away, along with the hassle of re boxing. And I may get another unit with issues. But I may get one that is even better than before!biggrin.gif Decisions decisions.

Opinions?
post #1811 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR1025 View Post

I'm in a really tough spot here. I want to upgrade my 5 year old Samsung 46" to either a 60" or 65". I've had my eye on two sets right now. The Samsung UN60F6300 or the Vizio M601d-A3R. 3D gives me a splitting headache but I do like that 240hz on the Vizio. I understand the UN60F6300 isn't the newest and greatest but it fits my budget and it's a brand I'm familiar with. Reading almost this entire thread I can see many people are happy. I may have missed it but does the 60" have a matte or glossy screen? Has anyone tried any gaming on the M601d and if you have is there any noticeable lag? Does anyone know the refresh rate? I know the F6300 60" has 8ms.

New here so sorry if I'm asking too many questions.

Thanks

Edit: I know Vizio is coming out with a new firmware update also to fix the remote control issue and change it over to wifi instead of IR. Anyone know when this is coming?

If you mean Samsung's Active 3D gives you a splitting headache, the Vizio 3D might actually work for you.

Active can give me a headache and/or eye strain, but Vizio's Passive 3D doesn't bother me at all. Its easy to use and virtually transparent compared to the active on Samsungs. You can turn it on and off at will with no eye problems, headaches, ambient light issues, flickering, etc. Plus, the glasses are just like normal sunglasses; they don't require batteries or synching, and fit easily over normal prescription glasses.
post #1812 of 8756
Yeah, hands down passive is so, so much better. It has so much more pop.
post #1813 of 8756
What I meant to say is any 3D gives me a headache and makes me sick to my stomach. I was just saying I was considering the Vizio because of the 240hz over the Samsung with 120hz. I just need advice on the two models and answers to the questions I posted.
post #1814 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR1025 View Post

What I meant to say is any 3D gives me a headache and makes me sick to my stomach. I was just saying I was considering the Vizio because of the 240hz over the Samsung with 120hz. I just need advice on the two models and answers to the questions I posted.
The Vizio is also 120hz the 240hz is achieved with technical wizardry.
post #1815 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR1025 View Post

What I meant to say is any 3D gives me a headache and makes me sick to my stomach. I was just saying I was considering the Vizio because of the 240hz over the Samsung with 120hz. I just need advice on the two models and answers to the questions I posted.

The 60" has the semi-matte screen and a listed 4ms response time. I can't give any advice as to which of the two you are interested is better, but I am very happy with my 70" (which is technically the same as the 60" aside from the screen size afaik).
post #1816 of 8756
Today, Google Now was updated with a new "Live TV" card. Basically, if you have an internet connected TV on the same network as your Android device, it will give you this card that you can tap on and have it figure out what you're watching by listening to the audio.

The internet connected TV has to support the Simple Service Discovery Protocol (SSDP). Does anyone know if the M Series supports this? I have yet to see the card.
post #1817 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dormanin View Post

Ok, an opinion question for you guys.

I've been having an issue with the on screen keyboard for netflix since I bough the TV. (55 inch) Vizio's support along with costco are both mystified. So Vizio is sending a tech to come out and replace the mainboard and the power board in the TV.eek.gif

The question is do I Let the tech come out and try to fix it. (everything else seems to be working great)

Or just take the whole thing back to costco and get a new one. Since the thing is 2 weeks old.mad.gif

Costco is an hour and a half away, along with the hassle of re boxing. And I may get another unit with issues. But I may get one that is even better than before!biggrin.gif Decisions decisions.

Opinions?

What is the issue with the Netflix keyboard? I would say to exchange it since my 50" had no problem once I figured out how to actually get the keyboard to display:)
post #1818 of 8756
The keyboard displays just fine. But there is no highlight or box, around the letters on it. Making entering my email like trying to use a computer with a mouse but no cursor.
post #1819 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by JR1025 View Post

What I meant to say is any 3D gives me a headache and makes me sick to my stomach. I was just saying I was considering the Vizio because of the 240hz over the Samsung with 120hz. I just need advice on the two models and answers to the questions I posted.

The Vizio is still 120hz .... don;t let the BS 240hz marketing fool ya.

That is definitely not something you should base your decision on since it's basically not real.
post #1820 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

The Vizio is also 120hz the 240hz is achieved with technical wizardry.

Yes, but isn't the Samsung really 60Hz employing similar "wizardry" technology to claim 120Hz?
post #1821 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by GatorJZ View Post

Yes, but isn't the Samsung really 60Hz employing similar "wizardry" technology to claim 120Hz?
I believe the TVs with active 3d have to be a real 120hz panel as tru 60hz is needed for each eye. With passive 3d this is not the case so with LG and Vizio TVs they can get away with 60hz panels with software enhancements.

If you are talking about a non 3d Samsung then it can be a 60hz panel with 120 software enhancement.
post #1822 of 8756
Good morning everyone,

I just purchased the M651d-A2R and had some questions about its 3D. I looked around in this massive thread and didn't see the answers, so if they're hidden in here somewhere already, I apologize in advance.

1) Is there anyway to turn down the backlight in 3D mode? It's stuck at 100 for me and completely grayed out. I would like to turn it down a bit so the backlight is less noticeable.
2) Has anyone figured out how to disable smooth motion while in 3D? I set the picture mode to both Game and Computer and there's no change in the SOE and the option to adjust it is grayed out.

I really like the tv otherwise! The picture is beautiful and the colors are very vivid. Thanks to Dr. Shankenstein for the calibration settings!!
post #1823 of 8756
All


Is there a difference between the M701D-A3 as listed on the Costco website and the M701D-A3R as listed on the amazon website ? the R being the difference
post #1824 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by archaicruin View Post

Good morning everyone,

I just purchased the M651d-A2R and had some questions about its 3D. I looked around in this massive thread and didn't see the answers, so if they're hidden in here somewhere already, I apologize in advance.

1) Is there anyway to turn down the backlight in 3D mode? It's stuck at 100 for me and completely grayed out. I would like to turn it down a bit so the backlight is less noticeable.
2) Has anyone figured out how to disable smooth motion while in 3D? I set the picture mode to both Game and Computer and there's no change in the SOE and the option to adjust it is grayed out.

I really like the tv otherwise! The picture is beautiful and the colors are very vivid. Thanks to Dr. Shankenstein for the calibration settings!!

Try "game-mode" for disabling smooth motion, but I"m not sure if that will also enable you to turn down the backlight. I believe you need the firmware update in order to do this though.
post #1825 of 8756
Quote:
Originally Posted by boater View Post

All


Is there a difference between the M701D-A3 as listed on the Costco website and the M701D-A3R as listed on the amazon website ? the R being the difference

Only confirmed thing is 4 pairs of glasses versus 8 pairs of glasses.
post #1826 of 8756
Well I got the Sony 70 550r last night. Swapped out the Vizio m701d for it. BAD IDEA!
While the Vizio has its own set of issues related to flash-lighting and clouding (light bleed). The Sony too has these issues (except flash-lighting because there is no smart dimming) and some other issues that make Vizio the way to go in this price range.
VESA Mounting:
The VESA (It didn't come with screws!?) on the back of the Sony are not standard 400x400 and they are almost all the way at the bottom. Luckily my mounting brackets still worked but not great. The base (bottom) of the TV is way to thick and it makes the TV stand way out from the wall and doesn't look good.
Bezel:
The bezel is almost exactly like the Vizio "E" series from last year. But the Sony's is probably a bit wider and thicker. I can't believe Sony released something like this in 2013. WOW. Looks bad.
HDMI and other inputs:
This TV was not meant to be hung on a wall. There are only two HDMI ports that don't plug in perpendicular to the screen. All of the other ports cause the cables to bend against the wall and push the bottom of the screen out even further (HORRIBLE DESIGN). The ARC HDMI port is like this so using ARC is out of the question unless you want to find a special HDMI cable to might be thinner (prefer high shielding/quality). The Ethernet, Optical and other ports are the same way plug in perpendicular too SUCKS. I have one HDMI cable going from my AV receiver into the TV and an optical cable going from the TV to the receiver. All media runs through my receiver except the media produced by the TV itself (NetFlix, Vudu, Hulu, etc) but let me explain why this sucks next.
Bravia Sync:
The Bravia Sync is a joke. It works, but good luck trying to get it to do any custom set ups. EX-1: Tried to watch NetFlix using the built in NetFlix app from the TV. Want to send the sound from the TV via optical out to the receiver. When I change the receiver to use the sound from the optical port (because its currently sending DirecTV sound) the TV picture magically disappears. It doesn't turn off it just goes black and it doesn't change inputs. Remember that the TV picture is using its built in NetFlix app so it doesn't really matter what input the TV is in since its producing its own media. Oh and there is still no sound coming out of the receiver. So the only way sound works in these apps is through the TV BLOWHOLE!. EX-2: Tried Bravia syncing with my bluray player. It worked so I told the TV to switch to the blu ray player. The TV automatically changed my receiver to use the correct port (HDMI4) which was nice. But while the blu ray was playing I wanted to switch back to TV to see something else and allow the bluray player to play in the background and I would switch back when I wanted on my own time. On the receiver remote I switched it back to HDMI 1 but somehow the TV said NO NO that's not what you really wanted to do let me just switch that back for you. OMG! I had power off the blu ray player in order to switch the receiver back to HDMI 1. Remember that everything runs through my AV receiver so there is only one TV input in use. The TV doesn't adjust its own input which is correct but it shouldn't change my receiver input. Trust me when I say I looked through all the different settings (Disabling Bravia option was grayed out and I couldn't turn it off). And the other settings didn't appear to fix anything.
3D:
Vizio wins in the 3D category too. The Vizio had much better pop out and depth. Watching it from different horizontal or vertical angles didn't seem to produce much if any ghosting or cross-talk. However, the Sony, what a joke. The 3D doesn't have the same pop out or depth. I wanted to make it look like the Vizio TV so I adjusted the 3D depthness adjustment (which is available on the Sony) but you have to be right in front of the TV and at a perfect 90 degree vertial angle too or ghosting shows up really bad. The 3D glasses are lighter but they snap together like a cheap kids toy from McDonalds and you only get 4 paris instead of 8. The 2D to 3D feature is cool but I don't see myself using much if at all as its not great. Plus I only want to watch 3D content made for 3D.
Picture Quality:
I didn't watch any sports but right off the bat the picture was WAY to dimm. After turning off the ECO and light adjustments it came alive. I turned out the lights but now light bleed is REALLY bad during dark scenes. Not as bad as the Vizio was, but when the Vizio has its Smart Dimming on this issue goes away on the Vizio. There is no solution on the Sony unless you turn back on the adjustments which makes the picture dull. With the room lights on the TVs probably look the same. The Sony has some weird color issues when it comes to people's skin though. I played with the adjustments mentioned on this site but couldn't get the picture to look like my old Vizio. I can live with the flashlights on the Vizio shinning in from the sides any day compared to this Sony.

I'm sure some of you are going to say that there are settings in the TV that can fix these issues and I'm sure you're right. But, I don't want to deal with it since I just came from a TV that didn't have these issues. If you are considering one or the other, pick Vizio m701d.
post #1827 of 8756
Oh and I forgot one more thing. The power cable is permanently attached to the TV. REALLY Sony?! Come on.
post #1828 of 8756
Thanks for the info, mgermano. I updated to firmware V1.04 last night, but am unable to change the SOE when picture is set for Game Mode. Is there another game mode in the options that I may be missing somewhere?
post #1829 of 8756
I received my 80 inch yesterday from amazon and only got 4 3D glasses. Did anyone else order a 70/80 from amazon and got 4 glasses? I thought they were suppose to come with 8
post #1830 of 8756
Did you compare the Vizio M701d to the new Sharp LC-70LE757U ?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: LCD Flat Panel Displays
AVS › AVS Forum › Display Devices › LCD Flat Panel Displays › Official Vizio M-Series Razor Mxx1i thread