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Originally Posted by samurai30 View Post

I totally respect your opinion Falcon, which is why I plan on picking up a 50 M series Tv. I also have the Sony 70 inch. You can never really trust in store settings, because they might not be the most optimal. As with the light bleed for Vizio which can be minimized by playing with the settings, the halo effect in sports can be minimized in the Sony TV as well.

That is something that no HOW Much you minimize is very bad! Unless it has almost Zero Ghosting/Halo effect then I could never own it .... just minimizing it would never be enough for me.
post #2342 of 8844
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Originally Posted by fr8doggr View Post

Falcon, it is good to read from someone who has seen the same things. I know I can nit-pick, but knowing that I am not the only one who has seen some TV's shortcomings makes me feel a bit better. Are you still using your settings posted on 6/29?

Yep haven't really found anything better.

I have tried one or two others posted here recently but they do not look as good to me for some reason.

Wish I could get a perfect color setting though but nothing has been posted yet that I find to look good over the default custom setting.
post #2343 of 8844
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Originally Posted by kyzer the medic View Post

I'm also a Silver Reward Zone member at Best Buy but after the nightmarish time I had with returning the Samsung 7100 (quite literally less than 24 hours after I bought it) I swore I'd never buy from them again. I joined Costco this morning to buy the TV for exactly the reason you stated, because of the extension of the one year warranty and the fact that for $99 I'm covered for five. If you look at the price difference you will pay at Best Buy with their extended warranty to cover the TV for half the amount of time and get the included calibration, and getting the awesome coverage at Costco and paying for the calibration out of pocket, it just might be about the same amount. If you also go to bestbuyunboxed.com you will see several complaints about the calibration that people have received from them.

+1

Yep myself and TONS of others would Totally agree!!!

Best Buy = DON'T DO IT, You Will Regret It!
post #2344 of 8844
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Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post

That is something that no HOW Much you minimize is very bad! Unless it has almost Zero Ghosting/Halo effect then I could never own it .... just minimizing it would never be enough for me.

All depends on the HD feed.

Fox sports, Espn, TNT sports feed, no halo effects. I own a lot of sports packages, and with some other channels, the halo (pixel) can be observed with the Sony. I don't think it's due to TV, but due to the incoming feed. But if the Vizio, no matter what setting you use such as increasing the sharpness, or quality of feed, never introduces any halo pixel effect, I'm truly impressed by what Vizio has brought to the table with their TVs. Can others back this up as well? If so, maybe I should exchange my Sony.
Edited by samurai30 - 7/7/13 at 8:50pm
post #2345 of 8844
I joined to say thank you to all the people in this thread.

I am a long-time hardcore Samsung fan and fully intended on buying a Samsung 7100 in the next month or so. It had what I considered the best picture I could find. However, over the last month I have looked at 5 different ones in 5 different Best Buys and seen the same two issues in each:
1) a random box about an inch square that appears in the middle of the upper quarter of the screen that just changed from black to grey.
2) severe motion blurring/halo effects

In each case the Best Buy employee assured me that it was just that one set and was because it was a display model, and not common. Yet it is in each of them.

So I keep putting my purchase off, and just haven't felt "right" about it.

I currently have a Toshiba Theaterwide 65" that is about 9 years old. It is taking a long time to warm up and has a lot of banding issues. It is projection and only 1080i. It only has one HDMI port. So I am wanting to upgrade before the next football season and before the next gaming consoles come out. That Toshiba held up beautifully though, and I am picky and expect 5-8+ years from a TV. I wasn't wild about going down in size from 65 to 60 but due to the difference in price I was willing to live with it.

On my last trip to look at them with a friend and get a second opinion, I saw the 65" Vizio M651d and fell in love. The picture was better in comparison. There was no motion issues. It was beautiful and gorgeous. The salesperson kept trying to push me back to the Samsungs. I realized at this point that only Samsung and Sony TVs had HDMI cables and every other TV just had coaxial inputs.

I still thought the Vizio had a better picture. It was also 5" bigger. Included twice the number of 3D glasses (8) and was $300 less. ($500 less after adding 4-year warranty and taxes to both).

So I intend on buying the Vizio this week. This forum has been an amazing supply of information and I appreciate it.

The only downside: We don't have a Costco in OKC so I am left with Best Buy as my only real option for purchasing this and the warranty is about $300 for 4 years.

Also, I will try to read the forum more in depth tomorrow, but I saw several calibration suggestions for various sizes and models, but not this exact one. If anyone could direct me to the correct post, I would appreciate it. Otherwise, I should find it tomorrow.

Thanks again, and I will let you know how it turns out!
post #2346 of 8844
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Originally Posted by HITNRUNXX View Post


The only downside: We don't have a Costco in OKC so I am left with Best Buy as my only real option for purchasing this and the warranty is about $300 for 4 years.

FYI: Vizio offers a 4 year Square Trade warranty for $119. 5 years is just $150. Very worthwhile IMO.
post #2347 of 8844
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Originally Posted by HITNRUNXX View Post


The only downside: We don't have a Costco in OKC so I am left with Best Buy as my only real option for purchasing this and the warranty is about $300 for 4 years.

FYI: Vizio offers a 4 year Square Trade warranty for $119. 5 years is just $150. Very worthwhile IMO.
post #2348 of 8844
You can join Costco online and order the M651 to be shipped to you. That is what I did, because even though I have a local Costco, I had no way of picking one up myself (plus the local one never had the 65" in stock). It is about 10 days for delivery, but you will get all the benefits that a Costco membership provides, including the 5 year total warranty for $99. Shipping was $20. Just a thought.
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HITNRUNXX,

Welcome to the "I was going to buy a F7100 but the Vizio M-series won me over" club.
post #2350 of 8844
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Originally Posted by HITNRUNXX View Post

The only downside: We don't have a Costco in OKC so I am left with Best Buy as my only real option for purchasing this and the warranty is about $300 for 4 years.

Just like others have said ... buy it from Costco online, purchase the 3 year Squaretrade and be set for 5 years for $155! (use your AMEX for purchase and get an extra 1 year warranty as well for a total of 6 years!)

I hope you don't make the mistake of buying through Best Buy.
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Hay guy's I have a question, Thinking on buying the Vizio 70" M series soon within like 2 days. My question is would you buy this replacing a Sony 55' HX820 from 2011? I had the TV for a little over a year and want to go bigger with good PQ. I have a friend thats going to buy my TV for $600, being said the sale at Costco ends this Wednesday. Should I wait or buy now? I live in AZ. It's killing me as too just stick with my Sony that is still a bad ass but want to go bigger. Your thoughts guy's thanks.
post #2352 of 8844
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Originally Posted by HITNRUNXX View Post

I joined to say thank you to all the people in this thread.

I am a long-time hardcore Samsung fan and fully intended on buying a Samsung 7100 in the next month or so. It had what I considered the best picture I could find. However, over the last month I have looked at 5 different ones in 5 different Best Buys and seen the same two issues in each:
1) a random box about an inch square that appears in the middle of the upper quarter of the screen that just changed from black to grey.
2) severe motion blurring/halo effects

In each case the Best Buy employee assured me that it was just that one set and was because it was a display model, and not common. Yet it is in each of them.

So I keep putting my purchase off, and just haven't felt "right" about it.

I currently have a Toshiba Theaterwide 65" that is about 9 years old. It is taking a long time to warm up and has a lot of banding issues. It is projection and only 1080i. It only has one HDMI port. So I am wanting to upgrade before the next football season and before the next gaming consoles come out. That Toshiba held up beautifully though, and I am picky and expect 5-8+ years from a TV. I wasn't wild about going down in size from 65 to 60 but due to the difference in price I was willing to live with it.

On my last trip to look at them with a friend and get a second opinion, I saw the 65" Vizio M651d and fell in love. The picture was better in comparison. There was no motion issues. It was beautiful and gorgeous. The salesperson kept trying to push me back to the Samsungs. I realized at this point that only Samsung and Sony TVs had HDMI cables and every other TV just had coaxial inputs.

I still thought the Vizio had a better picture. It was also 5" bigger. Included twice the number of 3D glasses (8) and was $300 less. ($500 less after adding 4-year warranty and taxes to both).

So I intend on buying the Vizio this week. This forum has been an amazing supply of information and I appreciate it.

The only downside: We don't have a Costco in OKC so I am left with Best Buy as my only real option for purchasing this and the warranty is about $300 for 4 years.

Also, I will try to read the forum more in depth tomorrow, but I saw several calibration suggestions for various sizes and models, but not this exact one. If anyone could direct me to the correct post, I would appreciate it. Otherwise, I should find it tomorrow.

Thanks again, and I will let you know how it turns out!


I can't stress highly enough for you to get it from Costco.. I've posted several times, I had the 55" 7100 in my home for less than 24 hours. The concerns I had were the same ones you are referring too. I was also told by the "salesman" at Best Buy that the display sets are not as good as what I would get at home. Yeah right !! it was worse at home. I'm not a conspiracy theorist by any means but have you noticed how much floor space Samsung has purchased in Best Buy lately ?? And the geeks there recommend it the highest. As someone else stated, join Costco online and have it shipped. I joined yesterday to pick up the M series. I also did the executive membership and since I already have American Express, got the best deal plus 2% back at the end of the year. It's really an easy decision to make. The TV itself is cheaper, the warranty is cheaper, the return policy is better by 75 days (unless you're a SRWZ member, then its still better by 30). I posted several "I dunno I'm still thinking of the Samsung" posts and my fears were laid to rest when I turned the TV on yesterday afternoon.
post #2353 of 8844
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Originally Posted by Spartan36 View Post

Hay guy's I have a question, Thinking on buying the Vizio 70" M series soon within like 2 days. My question is would you buy this replacing a Sony 55' HX820 from 2011? I had the TV for a little over a year and want to go bigger with good PQ. I have a friend thats going to buy my TV for $600, being said the sale at Costco ends this Wednesday. Should I wait or buy now? I live in AZ. It's killing me as too just stick with my Sony that is still a bad ass but want to go bigger. Your thoughts guy's thanks.

Up until about a month ago you couldn't talk me into buying anything other than Samsung. And I'm headed out this afternoon to buy a second M series for the bedroom.
post #2354 of 8844
Thanks for all the great responses. My only concern about buying from Costco is: What if I have a problem with the TV? Is their warranty in-house repair, and if so, will they cover it out of state? A friend and I were talking about running to Texas today just to buy one (300 miles round trip, still cheaper after the BB warranty). As for price of the TV itself, Best Buy will match prices, so even though BB's is no longer on sale as of today (it was the same price) then I'm not worried about that. Any opinions on Sam's Club?

So today's homework for myself:
1) How does Costco's warranty work out of state?
2) How does the warranty directly from Vizio work?
3) How does the Sam's Club warranty work and how much does it cost?
4) Is it truly the same TV from Sam's Club (On Sam's Club's website, they don't have the "R" on the end of the model number. I have heard rumors they/Wal-mart don't always get the exact same model. Possibly just a typo though?)
5) Find best calibration settings for the 65".
6) Costco also doesn't have the "R" at the end of the model. Is it also the same one? What is the difference...?
post #2355 of 8844
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Originally Posted by Jonlandy View Post

You can join Costco online and order the M651 to be shipped to you. That is what I did, because even though I have a local Costco, I had no way of picking one up myself (plus the local one never had the 65" in stock). It is about 10 days for delivery, but you will get all the benefits that a Costco membership provides, including the 5 year total warranty for $99. Shipping was $20. Just a thought.

I agree. For those that don't have a Costco close to home purchase a membership for $55 and have it delivered. I have a Costco 10 miles away but ordered my 70" online and had it in 5 days. Shipping was free and if it ever needs to be returned that is free as well. I did not purchase the extended warranty because I have always thought they are a waste of money, especially when it comes to electronics which usually fail very early in their life if at all. Anyway with the two year warranty that comes with the Costco purchase plus another year from AMEX I felt I was covered.
post #2356 of 8844
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Originally Posted by HITNRUNXX View Post

4) Is it truly the same TV from Sam's Club (On Sam's Club's website, they don't have the "R" on the end of the model number. I have heard rumors they/Wal-mart don't always get the exact same model. Possibly just a typo though?)
6) Costco also doesn't have the "R" at the end of the model. Is it also the same one? What is the difference...?

Apparently there are two versions. The A2R is current, and the A2 is no longer sold by Vizio. Other than the A2R coming with 8 pairs of 3D glasses and the A2 only have 4, I don't know what the differences are yet.

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The A2 designation is what is available at Costco, Sam's and BJ's.. The addition of the R which I can only assume would mean the retail and non-club version has 4 more pairs of glasses.
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Originally Posted by kyzer the medic View Post

The A2 designation is what is available at Costco, Sam's and BJ's.. The addition of the R which I can only assume would mean the retail and non-club version has 4 more pairs of glasses.

I was wondering if it was a newer version, but figured the only real difference would be pre-applied firmware updates/number of glasses. Still wish I had something official to spell it out though.
post #2359 of 8844
I agree with many others who state...BUY FROM COSTCO! It's a no brainer. In the interest of full disclosure, I'm a very loyal Costco customer and have been for twenty years. If I'm in the market for something and Costco sells it, they ALWAYS get my business. If Costco doesn't have it, Amazon gets my business. They are the two best retailers on the planet, and nobody is close to them. I have a Costco Executive membership (twice the cost of the standard membership). That said, because I spend so much money at Costco every year, the "cash back" I get at the end of each year is more money than my annual membership, so they actually pay me to shop there! Good gig, if you can get it. As for Best Buy, they're easily one of the worst run stores that I've ever been in. Most of the people who work there don't have a clue about anything, and the customer service is non-existent. I did buy my Panasonic 65 inch plasma VT series from BB a couple of years ago, but that was only because I couldn't find it at Costco. The other thing I can tell you about Costco is that if you have an issue with anything you purchase, it is VERY easy to return something. Also, as others have pointed out, their extended warranty is significantly cheaper than you would ever find anywhere else...especially places like BB. Also, Costco automatically extends the manufacturer's warranty by one year on almost all electronics products.

John
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Ditto on the Costco recommendations. I purchased with Costco Amex and I've heard they tack on an additional year to the warranty on top of Costco's extension. Can anyone confirm?

 

I opted to upgrade to the Executive membership at the time of the purchase of my 70" Vizio. The savings I received on that purchase alone nearly paid for the upgrade. 

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Originally Posted by GiantBubbleGuy View Post

FYI: Vizio offers a 4 year Square Trade warranty for $119. 5 years is just $150. Very worthwhile IMO.
Would you mind sharing a link to where I can purchase that on the Vizio site?
I can't even register my TV's on their warranty registration page, because neither the M501 or M601 are listed as models in the drop-down menu, of any selection.

I did put my name/address/phone#/E-mail, into each TV when I first set them up........But, I'd like to purchase the extended warranty on both sets-once I find out what they cover, and how repairs are to be performed(in my house? box it up and they pay for shipping? Do they send a box??).
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Originally Posted by jtl46 View Post

I agree. For those that don't have a Costco close to home purchase a membership for $55 and have it delivered. I have a Costco 10 miles away but ordered my 70" online and had it in 5 days. Shipping was free and if it ever needs to be returned that is free as well. I did not purchase the extended warranty because I have always thought they are a waste of money, especially when it comes to electronics which usually fail very early in their life if at all. Anyway with the two year warranty that comes with the Costco purchase plus another year from AMEX I felt I was covered.

I am considering doing the same, ordering from Costco online and having it delivered since I don't think the 70" will fit in my van.
When you had it delivered, did they bring it into your house, or just curbside? Any condition issues?
I have a Amex Costco card, so you are saying that if I purchase the TV on that card, it will add a 3rd year of warranty?

Thanks,
post #2363 of 8844
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Originally Posted by havasuvideo View Post

Would you mind sharing a link to where I can purchase that on the Vizio site?
I can't even register my TV's on their warranty registration page, because neither the M501 or M601 are listed as models in the drop-down menu, of any selection.

I did put my name/address/phone#/E-mail, into each TV when I first set them up........But, I'd like to purchase the extended warranty on both sets-once I find out what they cover, and how repairs are to be performed(in my house? box it up and they pay for shipping? Do they send a box??).

You can get the warranties here: https://www.squaretrade.com/squaretrade/checkout/vizioCustomQuoteLookup_input.action. Here is ST's page on TV warranties: http://www.squaretrade.com/tv-warranty I do know that Square Trade has an excellent reputation at taking care of warranty issues. My wife and I bought kindles for all 4 of our kids a couple of years ago with Square Trade extended warranties and have been extremely glad that we bought the EW. Every Kindle has had the charging port fail and Square Trade replaced them all in a very easy process.
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Originally Posted by Fonman99 View Post

I am considering doing the same, ordering from Costco online and having it delivered since I don't think the 70" will fit in my van.
When you had it delivered, did they bring it into your house, or just curbside? Any condition issues?
I have a Amex Costco card, so you are saying that if I purchase the TV on that card, it will add a 3rd year of warranty?

Thanks,

They brought the TV into my house. There was damage to the box but not the TV itself. I contacted Costco and they gave me a $50 credit to keep the set and not return it (although I can still return it later if I choose to do so). It will most likely fit in your van but you may need to lay it flat. I returned a 70" e series and it fit in my small SUV. I ordered it online because my local Costco does not have the 70" in stock and doesn't know when they will. Check with AMEX on the warranty provision, many different organizations offer AMEX cards and the benefits are not the same although my guess is that you have the coverage. The warranty doubles the manufacturers warranty for up to one year of coverage and starts after any other private coverage ie Costco's additional year. I have used it twice, once on a cell phone and once on a well pump. In both cases they simply sent me a check for the original purchase price. Good Luck. OBTW I think you will really like the TV.
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Originally Posted by Fonman99 View Post

I am considering doing the same, ordering from Costco online and having it delivered since I don't think the 70" will fit in my van.
When you had it delivered, did they bring it into your house, or just curbside? Any condition issues?
I have a Amex Costco card, so you are saying that if I purchase the TV on that card, it will add a 3rd year of warranty?

Thanks,

I purchased mine yesterday and it fit nicely in my GMC SUV. It had to lay on top of the subwoofer and wheel-well but if you have a van I would assume it would be fine.
post #2366 of 8844
You guys are making this difficult. I've been struggling to decide between the M701i-A3R, Sharp LC-70LE757U, and Samsung UN65F6400. This is impossible. tongue.gif
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I drove it home in our Honda pilot. With both rows of rear seats folded down, it fit almost exactly. The set shows no signs of adverse affects from lying flat during the trip home.
post #2368 of 8844
I was on the fence between the Sony KDL-70R550A and the Vizio M701d for a little while. I finally made the decision to get the Vizio based on everybody's feedback in this forum (thank you all).

I ordered it from Costco online, so I should have it in a week or so. Can't wait to get this thing mounted and tweaked so I can start enjoying some large screen goodness!
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Could anyone help where I can find the comparison/differences between E and M series? Thanks!
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Originally Posted by mightihd View Post

Could anyone help where I can find the comparison/differences between E and M series? Thanks!

E series write up
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/vizio-e550i/4505-6482_7-35566744.html

M series
http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/vizio-m701d-a3r/4505-6482_7-35781793.html

XVT series
http://www.vizio.com/cinemawide/overview


E is entry level, M is middle grade with more features, larger selection of screen sizes , XVT cinema wide is the top of the line.
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