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post #2521 of 8760
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Originally Posted by Enigma869 View Post
What is the product ID# of the mount you bought on Monoprice?

 

#8587

 

The link, model number, pic and my impressions of it are all contained in the thread I linked to in the earlier post.

 

Once you click the link above to read about it, just click the large picture of it and it will take you directly to the product page on monoprice.com. I've tried to make it simple ;)

post #2522 of 8760
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Originally Posted by TheChadd View Post

Tried messing around with it a little more and gave up. I concluded that, even when working, CEC and ARC provide more novelty than value. I thew on an extra optical cable and called it good cool.gif
The Chadd, I have been trying to get this to work with my M651 and Onkyo 717. I found that if I set it all up as suggested I have the same problem you were seeing regarding the Visio cycling. I did find a work around that doesn't require removing the HDMI cable.

I enable CEC on tv and receiver.
Turn everything off.
Turn TV on
As soon as Visio logo goes away I manually turn on receiver
CEC works but not ARC

I don't think this is acceptable to the wife though. I also resorted to optical for TV audio..

I chatted with Visio technical support (glorified call center) They suggested I don't use HDMI until they resolve this. Ha ya right.
What a waste of time.
post #2523 of 8760
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Originally Posted by speedrx View Post

I see the $200 instant rebate ends on 7/10. Here is my dilemma - I have a new Costco opening down the street on 7/11!!

I went by there to get my new Costco card and they said they are going to have a lot of grand Opening deals and it could be worth waiting but they don't have any specific information on the discounts (maybe none on the Vizio 70's/80's).

What are the chances of the Vizio TV's going up in price on 7/11? It seems to me they are priced at the high end of the market at $2300 and I can't see them going up, I can see the "regular price" going to $2099 instead. Of course, they could go up and no grand opening deals so I would be forced to wait or buy else where. I prefer Costco for warranty and return policy.

Option 3 would be to drive to another Costco and buy before 7/11 and go to new Costco for adjustment if needed.

What to do? Right now, my plan is to wait for new store to open and take my chances.

The new Costco had a pre-opening party tonight so I stopped by, they had lots of sets but you can't purchase anything until tomorrow morning. They are the same price as every other Costco so no "Grand Opening" deals on the Vizio's. The prices posted showed the rebate ends today and no one there could tell me what was going to happen in the morning.

I am going to go by in the morning and pick it up, I called customer service and they said if the store won't work out a deal, they would honor the sale price for the next 30 days so I am covered either way.
post #2524 of 8760
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Originally Posted by vestaviascott View Post

#8587

The link, model number, pic and my impressions of it are all contained in the thread I linked to in the earlier post.

Once you click the link above to read about it, just click the large picture of it and it will take you directly to the product page on monoprice.com. I've tried to make it simple wink.gif

Thank you, Sir.
post #2525 of 8760
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Originally Posted by vestaviascott View Post

#8587

The link, model number, pic and my impressions of it are all contained in the thread I linked to in the earlier post.

Once you click the link above to read about it, just click the large picture of it and it will take you directly to the product page on monoprice.com. I've tried to make it simple wink.gif

That's definitely not the same mount (even though it looks similar). The one on Amazon is rated for 220lbs, while this one is rated for 170lbs. Not a huge deal, given the 70" is below 100lbs. The other thing I noticed amount the mount you linked to is that it states it is only for displays up to 60"?
post #2526 of 8760

Use your own best judgment, I've given as much information as I can to help you decide. The mount is on my wall and the TV is attached to it.


Edited by vestaviascott - 7/10/13 at 9:03pm
post #2527 of 8760
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Originally Posted by ursa99 View Post

At the risk of blowing ANY credibility I may have garnered I felt the need to post these new settings for my M601D-A3.

 

I like your updated settings. Flesh tones are entirely believable and spot-on.

 

 

This is from a Directv Genie over HDMI during tonight's showing of America's Got Talent. Pic taken with my iphone 5 with HDR setting. Also take notice the nice detail in Howard's jacket (iphone camera doesn't do it justice but click the pic for higher res)


Edited by vestaviascott - 7/10/13 at 7:14pm
post #2528 of 8760
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Originally Posted by kyzer the medic View Post

Just as an example, my wife NEVER watches when I play games. She's also an MD and could think of thousands of things her time could be better used for. But last night she sat there and watched me play about two hours of Uncharted 3. Just the depth of the picture to me was amazing. In the opening flashback scene when young Nate was climbing along the rooftops she would actually get nervous because it looks like he "could fall so far down". In the main game even with the fast action I noticed ZERO ghosting or artifact. During one cutscene I noticed that little paper lanterns in the background were ghosted, but for the overall experience of being so immersed into a game is phenomenal. Again, SO happy with this set.

I picked up Uncharted 3 tonight and I love the 3D. The platforming is not as smooth as say a Prince of Persia or Assassin's Creed, but still pretty good. I'm on Chapter 5 and the depth in the tunnels on the way to the underground was outstanding. Crisis 2 is great and this might be even better. I would also recommend this one for 3D.
post #2529 of 8760
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Originally Posted by venus933 View Post

HD Nation review of the Vizio M551d-A2R Razor LED Smart TV. I haven't seen the episode yet so I don't know how they like it.

http://revision3.com/hdnation/vizio-led-3d

They seemed to like it fairly well, especially for the price point. Its clear they didn't spend too much time trying to dial in the PQ and colors, so they commented that there are better tv's for PQ. All and all though, they loved all the other features and mentioned the design of the TV quite a bit.
post #2530 of 8760
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Originally Posted by vestaviascott View Post

I like your updated settings. Flesh tones are entirely believable and spot-on.




This is from a Directv Genie over HDMI during tonight's showing of America's Got Talent. Pic taken with my iphone 5 with HDR setting. Also take notice the nice detail in Howard's jacket (iphone camera doesn't do it justice but click the pic for higher res)

Glad to hear the updated settings translated well to your set.
Ursa
post #2531 of 8760
Great thread! Lots of great info! I am deciding between the 60 OR saving my pennies and getting the Samsung 7100.

This is killing me!
post #2532 of 8760
Yo, M Series 80" owners,

The zombie that started this thread http://www.avsforum.com/t/1480880/vizio-80-m801d-a3-owners-thread would like to eat your brains.
post #2533 of 8760
I watched the HD Nation review and enjoyed it but, learned something I didn't know. Why can't you turn off the picture enhancements during 3D playback? I'm just not a fan of smooth motion stuff, I hate the soap opera look, why is it forced for 3D? One of my main worries is lip sync issues and only for my blu-ray player. It has dual HDMI outs so I can send audio to my AVR and video to the TV. My AVR does not support ARC but dose support Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA. Got to have my lossless audio. I'd hate to get any possible lip sync issues corrected (AVR has audio delay adjustments) for 2D movies only to then have issues with 3D viewing because more picture enhancements are turned on.

Maybe I'm just over thinking everything, I'm going to drive myself nuts trying to pick a new TV if I'm not careful.
post #2534 of 8760
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Originally Posted by rolltide1017 View Post

I watched the HD Nation review and enjoyed it but, learned something I didn't know. Why can't you turn off the picture enhancements during 3D playback? I'm just not a fan of smooth motion stuff, I hate the soap opera look, why is it forced for 3D? One of my main worries is lip sync issues and only for my blu-ray player. It has dual HDMI outs so I can send audio to my AVR and video to the TV. My AVR does not support ARC but dose support Dolby TrueHD and DTS-MA. Got to have my lossless audio. I'd hate to get any possible lip sync issues corrected (AVR has audio delay adjustments) for 2D movies only to then have issues with 3D viewing because more picture enhancements are turned on.

Maybe I'm just over thinking everything, I'm going to drive myself nuts trying to pick a new TV if I'm not careful.

You can switch the input to Game and then have the ability to adjust smooth motion. I actually prefer it on 3D. It cleans up the image and the idea of 3D is to look like you are right there, so it works for me. Avatar and the Hobbit were sooooo much better with smooth motion on. But again, just calibrate Game the way you want and then switch to that mode and turn it off. I am still on firmware 1.04 and for now at least, the TV always switches to Vivid mode when 3D is enabled. So remember to go in each time you launch 3D and change to Game mode. I just turn the backlight all the way up like vivid, but I still get the colors set up the way I like. Just a few ideas.

As far as your receiver, the dual outputs sound nice. I just bought a new receiver after I got my Vizio because it wouldn't pass through the 3D and I too HAVE to my lossless audio.
post #2535 of 8760
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Originally Posted by ursa99 View Post

At the risk of blowing ANY credibility I may have garnered I felt the need to post these new settings for my M601D-A3. I found that my prior two were totally dependent on the picture settings and in those instances I chose 50% for each of them. For these I dialed in what I liked for picture settings and then did the calibration. These settings which are quite different from what I posted previously look quite good regarding skin tones which is my barometer for proper color calibration....I may boost the color setting a bit, otherwise I think this is it....
I posted this knowing I may have disappointed a lot of people but I also felt it was the right thing to do.

-Ursa


LOVING These Settings So Far!!!

I have made a change here and there and I am running Auto-Brightness on high ..

But other then that I have REALLY been wanting a good color temperature value and this one is looking Very Good so far.

Excellent job!
post #2536 of 8760
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Originally Posted by Bobert01 View Post

Great thread! Lots of great info! I am deciding between the 60 OR saving my pennies and getting the Samsung 7100.

This is killing me!

Please read back a few pages. I had and returned the 7100. Flashlighting and the inability to totally kill the SOE were but two of the reasons.. Couldn't recommend more against it.
post #2537 of 8760
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Originally Posted by speedrx View Post

The new Costco had a pre-opening party tonight so I stopped by, they had lots of sets but you can't purchase anything until tomorrow morning. They are the same price as every other Costco so no "Grand Opening" deals on the Vizio's. The prices posted showed the rebate ends today and no one there could tell me what was going to happen in the morning.

I am going to go by in the morning and pick it up, I called customer service and they said if the store won't work out a deal, they would honor the sale price for the next 30 days so I am covered either way.

Just noticed that the rebate price has been extended thru 8/11 so you should be in luck smile.gif
post #2538 of 8760
Hey guys,

I just had my Vizio M501d-A2R delivered from Walmart yesterday and it has a stuck pixel near the center. Shall I contact Vizio or Walmart? I dont want the hassle of going to a store and returning it coz none of the Walmart has it in store and now they are even out of stock online.
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Edited by vestaviascott - 7/11/13 at 1:31pm
post #2540 of 8760
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Originally Posted by kyzer the medic View Post

Just noticed that the rebate price has been extended thru 8/11 so you should be in luck smile.gif

Excellent, thanks!
post #2541 of 8760
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Originally Posted by Cardstatman View Post

I am still on firmware 1.04 and for now at least, the TV always switches to Vivid mode when 3D is enabled. So remember to go in each time you launch 3D and change to Game mode.

Does the newer firmware prevent it from switching to Vivid for 3D? I hate it when things change my settings and I'm not going to like having to pull out the TV remote and switch back to "game" every time we want to watch 3D, my wife will hate this as well. Does it switch back to your previous settings when you are done watching 3D? I hate it when devices force certain settings onto you, that's a big pet peeve of mine and I hadn't read that about the Vizio until now. Maybe this isn't the right TV for me even though the price is right.

Edit: Can you calibrate more then one picture mode on each input and will the TV save all those settings? I.E. can I calibrate "game" and "vivid" on HDMI 1 and then switch between them without losing the settings on either mode? If I can at least dial in the colors for both modes and the TV saves them, I might be able to live with that for 3D viewing. My current TV can only save one set of settings per input, it is 7 years old though.
Edited by rolltide1017 - 7/11/13 at 7:39am
post #2542 of 8760
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Originally Posted by rolltide1017 View Post

Does the newer firmware prevent it from switching to Vivid for 3D? I hate it when things change my settings and I'm not going to like having to pull out the TV remote and switch to "game" every time we want to watch 3D, my wife will hate this as well. Does it switch back to your previous settings when you are done watching 3D? I hate it when devices force certain settings onto you, that's a big pet peeve of mine and I hadn't read that about the Vizio until now. Maybe this isn't the right TV for me even though the price is right.

I have the 80 with firmware 1.05 since I received it, and each input has held independent settings in 2D and 3D mode.
post #2543 of 8760
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Originally Posted by rolltide1017 View Post

Can you calibrate more then one picture mode on each input and will the TV save all those settings? I.E. can I calibrate "game" and "vivid" on HDMI 1 and then switch between them without losing the settings on either mode?

 

The TV saves your current custom settings to the current input you are on when you edit the settings. It does not apply those settings to other inputs. This is actually a good thing. As it allows you to save "input-specific" settings to avoid the kinds of problems you are describing.

 

Once you change inputs, and assuming you have not previously calibrated the new input, the settings will be at defaults. Then, you'll just need to create custom settings there too. Once you've created custom settings for an input, the TV stores that and uses your custom settings each time you switch to that input.

 

So, if you have your Blu-ray or DVD player coming into, say, HDMI #2, and you calibrate that port with your DVD specific settings, that's all you have to do. The TV will do the rest and store all these settings in memory.

 

A feature that would be nice to have would be a shortcut to copy/apply custom settings from one port to another, but since that's not available, you'll just need to run through the full settings setup each time you calibrate an input.


Edited by vestaviascott - 7/11/13 at 12:12pm
post #2544 of 8760
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Originally Posted by zaraki1010 View Post

Hey guys,

I just had my Vizio M501d-A2R delivered from Walmart yesterday and it has a stuck pixel near the center. Shall I contact Vizio or Walmart? I dont want the hassle of going to a store and returning it coz none of the Walmart has it in store and now they are even out of stock online.

Wait until wallyworld gets more in, then exchange it, that wil reset your factory warranty til the date you exchange. If you go to Vizio you'll wait a couple of weeks but your 1 year warranty is from date of original purchase.
post #2545 of 8760

Just watched opening scene of Hugo on Blu-ray (2D and 3D) - Very nice!

 

Before heading in to the office this morning, I decided to test Blu-ray 3D for the first time. First, I wanted to check the 2D Blu-ray to have a reference for comparison. I popped the Hugo Blu-ray into my PS3 and sat on my couch (appx 10 feet from screen center) to check it out. The PQ was stunning as expected. I can see that I'm going to be spending much more on Red Box rentals than I had before. I ended it after the first scene with the toymaker behind his desk with the wind-up mouse. That scene alone is glorious in its detail on this TV.

 

I ejected the disc at this point and put the 3D Blu-ray into the PS3. After seeing that my PS3 firmware had not yet been updated to support 3D, I swapped over to my 3D Capable Vizio Blu-ray player (Black Friday $39 special).

 

As soon as the opening scene began to play, it became apparent how much the 3D adds to that scene. The snow effects during the flyover into the railway station are particularly effective (although subtle) and really help transport you into the scene.

 

On the scene where we first see the toymaker behind his desk, the toys and contraptions appear much more lifelike due to the depth that the 3D transfer provides. It really helped convey the storyline better than the 2D perspective and enhanced an already stunningly detailed scene to another level.

 

I was definitely impressed with the 3D capabilities of the Vizio. One thing I'm going to have to get used to though, is that when viewing 3D content any closer than 10 feet, I can clearly see the black horizontal scan lines in the pic. I know this is the state of 1080p passive 3D tech, but I'm looking forward to the day when we can have full 1080p 3D with passive technology.

 

The 3D from this Blu-ray disc did stand out as much better than what I've seen on YouTube 3D and Directv's free 3Net channel.


Edited by vestaviascott - 7/11/13 at 10:04am
post #2546 of 8760
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Originally Posted by rolltide1017 View Post

Does the newer firmware prevent it from switching to Vivid for 3D? I hate it when things change my settings and I'm not going to like having to pull out the TV remote and switch back to "game" every time we want to watch 3D, my wife will hate this as well. Does it switch back to your previous settings when you are done watching 3D? I hate it when devices force certain settings onto you, that's a big pet peeve of mine and I hadn't read that about the Vizio until now. Maybe this isn't the right TV for me even though the price is right.

Edit: Can you calibrate more then one picture mode on each input and will the TV save all those settings? I.E. can I calibrate "game" and "vivid" on HDMI 1 and then switch between them without losing the settings on either mode? If I can at least dial in the colors for both modes and the TV saves them, I might be able to live with that for 3D viewing. My current TV can only save one set of settings per input, it is 7 years old though.

I don’t know if the new firmware will prevent it from switching to Vivid. I do know that the 1.02 fw allowed you to change the smooth motion settings on any setting and then 1.04 changed it so that the options are grayed out. I also know that 1.02 didn't force you into vivid mode but 1.04 does. So I just wanted to say that things could change with 1.06 and if anyone out there with 1.06 can chime in, that would be great. To further complicate things, the firmware numbers are different for the different size groups. I have a 55, and the 50 has the same numbers, but the 60-80 have a different set.

As far as switching off vivid to game mode when you watch a 3d movie, I dont know what to tell you other than you have to use the remote to change other setting, like HDMI and you have to use the remote to play the movie and select the menus, so is it really that big of a deal to have to change that setting smile.gif I say that with respect, but I personally think its a mistake to miss out on this TV and the super sweet 3D because you have to adjust a setting every once in a while.

And yes, you can calibrate game and vivid and all the others for HDMI 1 and not lose those settings.(Plus each input remebers your settings as vestaviascott mentioned above). I have a receiver, so I send everything to HDMI one, and if I am playing a game on the PS3, I switch to game because of the lag benefit, and when I am watching TV I switch it to calibrated. This way, I can set up all the colors and smooth motion and smart dimming setting that I like all at once, and then all I have to do is hit menu and change over to game or calibrated. I promise its not as tedious as your old tv that forgot your settings and you really wont regret having this TV biggrin.gif

Also, if you do get the TV, then I would recommend you play with how you like your settings on 3D. Remember that even though the passive glasses aren't as dark as active, it still dulls down the screen. Part of the reason the TV switches to vivid is to brighten the colors to the point that even with the glasses, it looks similar to the screen when you don't have the glasses on. So you can make an exact copy of your calibrated setting to your game setting, but find you might want to turn up the backlight more or the brightness/colors because of the glasses. I copied my calibrated settings to game which I use for 3D and then upped the backlight and brightness. Just know you can play with it as you like and it will remember so its not as big of a pain. For me the pain is that because I game, I have to readjust the backlight and brightness back down if I play a 2D game. There is only one game setting with the slower input lag, or I would just adjust a different setting. Given I like smooth motion, I may just calibrate computer for 3D, but it forces medium smooth motion and I like high. Either way, the inconvenience of either scenario is perfectly acceptable to me for the quality and price of the TV. It really only takes a few seconds to make the changes and results are completely worth it.
Edited by Cardstatman - 7/11/13 at 10:23am
post #2547 of 8760
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Originally Posted by Cardstatman View Post

I have a receiver, so I send everything to HDMI one, and if I am playing a game on the PS3, I switch to game because of the lag benefit, and when I am watching TV I switch it to calibrated. This way, I can set up all the colors and smooth motion and smart dimming setting that I like all at once, and then all I have to do is hit menu and change over to game or calibrated. I promise its not as tedious as your old tv that forgot your settings and you really wont regret having this TV biggrin.gif

 

I'm using an AV switcher too. One cable into the Vizio and multiple into my Denon AV receiver. So it does make discrete, per-device settings a bit more button clicks than if you were not using an AV switch to merge all devices into one input.

 

Perhaps once more people experiment with programming this TV into their remotes, someone can provide discrete codes (or activity macros) that can be programmed into a universal remote to get one-click toggle between PQ settings (Game, Calibrated, etc). It would be nice to be able to map the color buttons on a Harmony, for example, so that you have each button dedicated to a different stored setting.

post #2548 of 8760
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Originally Posted by vestaviascott View Post

I'm using an AV switcher too. One cable into the Vizio and multiple into my Denon AV receiver. So it does make discrete, per-device settings a bit more button clicks than if you were not using an AV switch to merge all devices into one input.

Perhaps once more people experiment with programming this TV into their remotes, someone can provide discrete codes (or activity macros) that can be programmed into a universal remote to get one-click toggle between PQ settings (Game, Calibrated, etc). It would be nice to be able to map the color buttons on a Harmony, for example, so that you have each button dedicated to a different stored setting.

I couldn't agree more. I have zero experience programing macro's on Harmony, but if anyone figures how to do this, please please please share. One botton push to change the TV picture settings would be outstanding!!!!
post #2549 of 8760
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Originally Posted by Cardstatman View Post


I couldn't agree more. I have zero experience programing macro's on Harmony, but if anyone figures how to do this, please please please share. One botton push to change the TV picture settings would be outstanding!!!!

 

I've programmed a few macros into my Harmony, its been awhile. The myharmony.com setup wizard makes it super simple. Calling it "programming" is an insult to programmers, lol.

 

Assuming that the Harmony team has fully mapped all of the Vizio screens into the activity options, we should be able to add the Color setting steps to our "Watch A DVD" and "Watch TV" macros (just tag those extra steps onto the end of the basic macro).

 

If we do it this way (add it to the end of each of the Activity macros), there won't even be a requirement to press a discrete button. The TV will have automatically switched color modes as part of the input switch command ("Watch A DVD" for example).

 

I'll give it a shot when I get home from the office later today and perhaps upload a video or screenshots of the myharmony.com setup I'm using.

post #2550 of 8760
I've always read that the standalone Harmony software gave you more customization options compared to myHarmony.com. I was actually going through the steps to switch until I realized that it was going to blow half my settings away and I didn't want to take the time to rebuild everything. I think part of the reason is it was trying to force me to use updated codes for my receiver but, the update isn't right, doesn't even have all the inputs listed. Somehow there database got messed up for my receiver (Denon 2808). So, I've just stayed with the standalone software, I know it like the back of my hand from using it for so many years.

Anyway, I've had a Harmony for many, many years but I've never really messed with macros much at all.
Edited by rolltide1017 - 7/12/13 at 7:53am
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