Official Vizio M-Series Razor Mxx1i thread - Page 2

Is that Costco? I don't want to do it, I think I would feel sort of bad, but not having a TV for 3 more months would suck...

How are Vizio LED tvs? I've only read about samsung and the other major brands but never considered Vizio before now. But the cheap price tag of the M-series 50" has me interested. It has everything I'd want in an LED tv {50" size, local dimming, passive 3d, 240 hz, slim bezel]. How is Vizio's quality control? At least better than samsung's? Is the picture as good as a samsung LED? Pardon me for my noobness on vizio, I thought they were just like a walmart level brand or something.

I've only had one Vizio (M3Dxx0KD) and it was great with three minor complaints.
1. Build quality-Screen was not connected to bezel very well.
2. Backlight-bleed on edge of screen.
3. Local Dimming did not work very well, leaving a backlight anomalie on screen durning dark scenes.

I've had alot of tvs in my time, mostly Samsung(High-End), and the Vizio M3Dxx0KD was the best overall PQ that I've seen on a tv. Motion Resolution was nice without a ton of SOE and the Passive 3-D was great. I'm hoping the new Vizio's have better build quality, better uniformity and better local dimming.

I'm about ready to buy the current E series 60"...I can get it for $800 at BB...
after reading this info about the new M series...

If it's the same price, I'm wondering if I should wait...

I wonder how much more the new M series will be...
if I'm reading this correctly, it show's the 40" in both M and E series at $529...

will the 60" also be $999, if you look at 60" with 3-D theater it's only $1,599 .

Thoughts?


VIZIO E-Series Razor LED Smart TVs
24” Razor LED Smart TV (E241i) – $199.99 Retail Price
29” Razor LED Smart TV (E291i) – $259.99 Retail Price
40” Razor LED Smart TV (E401i) – $529.99 Retail Price
55” Razor LED Smart TV (E551i) – $879.99 Retail Price
60” Razor LED Smart TV (E601i) – $999.99 Retail Price
70” Razor LED Smart TV (E701i) – $1,999.99 Retail Price

VIZIO M-Series Razor LED Smart TVs
32” Razor LED Smart TV (M321i) – $399.99 Retail Price
40” Razor LED Smart TV (M401i) – $529.99 Retail Price
47” Razor LED Smart TV (M471i) – $699.99 Retail Price

VIZIO M-Series Razor LED Smart TVs w/Theater 3D
50” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M501d) – $849.99 Retail Price
55” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M551d) – $1,199.99 Retail Price
60” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M601d) – $1,599.99 Retail Price
65” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M651d) – $1,999.99 Retail Price
70” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M701d) – $2,499.99 Retail Price
80” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M801d) – $4,499.99 Retail Price

I think there are two new lines, the M and the M XVT - w/ 3D... will the 60" not come in all 3 lines?...I read the press release again...confusing?

I thought the XVT was the 4K display?

XVT is in fact the 4K TV's being released later in the second half of this year .... those will be WAY more then what we are talking about years (thousands more).

The current unreleased M-Series TV's will all have 3D (this line is full smart tv theater 3D with local dimming and 240hz) in the 50" and above models (the sizes below will end in "i" and not have 3D)

I think this M-Series TV is the absolute winner for 2013 .... the XVT will be AMAZING but way out my price range this time around.


Here is everything you will want to know about this new line-up of Vizio TV's for 2013:

The company's M range LED-based LCD TVs goes from 32- up to the company's first 80-inch model, the M801d pictured above. All of the sizes in the series should ship in the first half with the exception of the 80-incher, which is a second-half product. Pricing was not announced, but knowing Vizio it will be extremely competitive.

No other maker aside from Sharp has announced an 80-inch LCD that we know of (crazy-expensive 84-inch 4K sets notwithstanding), and we expect the Vizio M801d to undercut the price of Sharp models like the LC-80LE632U (now about $5,000) when it launches. Of course, Sharp should also announce new 80- or even 90-inch sets at CES, too. And while I'm saying "of course," don't buy a jumbo LCD, buy a projector.

In all the M series comprises a whopping nine sizes, with the following suggested retail prices: the 32-inch M321i ($399), 40-inch M401i ($529), 47-inch M471i ($699), the 50-inch M501d ($849), the 55-inch M551d ($1199), the 60-inch M601d ($1599), the 65-inch M651d ($1999), the 70-inch M701d ($2499), and the 80-inch M801d ($4499).

The 50-inch and larger "M" TVs have an edge-lit LED backlight with local dimming (16 zones) from an edge-lit LED backlight -- the same technology that caused us to laud the picture quality of the 2012 M3D0KD series. They also have a 240Hz refresh rate and passive 3D. Vizio says eight pairs of passive 3D glasses will be included in the box of the 80-incher; I say divide by screen size by 10 (rounding up) to estimate the number of glasses included on the smaller sizes.

The 32- and 47-inch "M" TVs get 120Hz processing and no 3D, but do keep local dimming.

(Credit: Vizio)
Vizio also mentioned that like all of its 65-inch passive 3D TVs, the 65-inch M651d will have the glass pattern retarder finish, which results in the glossy screen we disliked so much on models like the M3D651SV. The other 3D sizes will have a matte or at least semi-gloss film pattern retarder, like the M3D0KD, while the smaller non-3D sets will be straight matte.

Beyond picture quality, Vizio has also improved its Smart TV suite on the M series compared with the step-down E series models. It now supports HTML5, enabling more apps and faster performance. The Ms also get a fancy backlit remote that works via Wi-Fi, allowing it work without needing line-of-sight. Two-way communication with the TV also allows a user to set up the remote to control other devices easily, using the TV's user interface. In the past we've liked Vizio's universal remote setup routine, so this should be even nicer.

Speaking of nicer, the design of the Ms looks better than anything yet from Vizio. The open stand reminds me of LG's best efforts, as does the bezel width: just 2 millimeters, resulting in a look that's seemingly all picture. Aside from that Vizio logo jutting from the lower-right, of course.



Vizio Press Release Details:

VIZIO’s new M-Series Razor LED Smart TVs are the must-have centerpieces for today’s modern families. The all-new M-Series signature design in screen sizes of 32” (M321i), 40” (M401i), 47” (M471i), 50” (M501d), 55” (M551d), 60” (M601d), 65” (M651d), 70” (M701d) and 80” (M801d),pair superior picture quality with an ultra-slim frame for a more immersive viewing experience. The ultra-thin bezels of the M-Series virtually vanish next to the near edge-to-edge glass screen for a signature look that updates any room’s appearance. Unique interior metal construction in the base and neck adds stability while a beautifully finished exterior complements the design and helps set the new standard for affordable HDTV luxury.




Here are some current and unreleased Vizio TV's .... I have Bolded the ones in question here.

VIZIO M-Series Razor LED Smart TVs
32” Razor LED Smart TV (M321i) – $399.99 Retail Price
40” Razor LED Smart TV (M401i) – $529.99 Retail Price
47” Razor LED Smart TV (M471i) – $699.99 Retail Price

VIZIO M-Series Razor LED Smart TVs w/Theater 3D
50” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M501d) – $849.99 Retail Price
55” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M551d) – $1,199.99 Retail Price
60” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M601d) – $1,599.99 Retail Price
65” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M651d) – $1,999.99 Retail Price
70” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M701d) – $2,499.99 Retail Price
80” Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (M801d) – $4,499.99 Retail Price

VIZIO XVT-Series Ultra HD Razor LED Smart TVs w/Theater 3D
55” Ultra HD Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (XVT551d) – To be announced closer to product availability
65” Ultra HD Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (XVT651d) – To be announced closer to product availability
70” Ultra HD Razor LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (XVT701d) – To be announced closer to product availability

VIZIO E-Series Razor LED TV
22” Razor LED TV (E221) – $159.99 Retail Price

VIZIO E-Series Razor LED Smart TVs
24” Razor LED Smart TV (E241i) – $199.99 Retail Price
29” Razor LED Smart TV (E291i) – $259.99 Retail Price
40” Razor LED Smart TV (E401i) – $529.99 Retail Price
55” Razor LED Smart TV (E551i) – $879.99 Retail Price
60” Razor LED Smart TV (E601i) – $999.99 Retail Price
70” Razor LED Smart TV (E701i) – $1,999.99 Retail Price

VIZIO E-Series LED TVs
32” LED TV (E320) – $269.99 Retail Price
37” LED TV (E370) – $349.99 Retail Price
42” LED TV (E420) – $449.99 Retail Price
47” LED TV (E470) – $549.99 Retail Price

VIZIO E-Series LED Smart TV
32” LED Smart TV (E320i) – $299.99 Retail Price
39” LED Smart TV (E390i) – $399.99 Retail Price
42” LED Smart TV (E420i) – $499.99 Retail Price
47” LED Smart TV (E470i) – $599.99 Retail Price
50” LED Smart TV (E500i) – $699.99 Retail Price
65” LED Smart TV (E650i) – $1,299.99 Retail Price

VIZIO E-Series LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D
42” LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (E420d) – $529.99 Retail Price
50” LED Smart TV w/Theater 3D (E500d) – $729.99 Retail Price



Here is the FULL Press Release on the new TV for 2013:

Three Product Lines Offer Consumers HDTVs Sized from 22” to 80”, Featuring New Modern Industrial Design with Slim to Nearly Borderless Frames

Irvine, CA and Las Vegas, NV — January 7, 2013 — VIZIO, America’s #1 large size HDTV company1, revealed today its expanded 2013 HDTV collection, highlighted by an all-new line of M-Series Razor LED™ Smart TVs featuring an elegant, modern ultra-slim bezel and razor-thin profile. VIZIO’s new HDTV line-up continues to demonstrate the brand’s leadership in HDTV technology with advanced innovations like its first Ultra High Definition TVs (4K2K), part of the brand’s flagship XVT-Series, as well as the all-new, all-LED2 E-Series line which features a sleek, slim-frame design and advanced Smart TV features and Theater 3D™ available on select models. Ranked “Highest in Customer Satisfaction with HDTVs” by J.D Power and Associates3, VIZIO will showcase its new 22” to 80” sized collection at the 2013 Consumer Electronics Show (CES) in Las Vegas, NV.

VIZIO’s new M-Series Razor LED Smart TVs are the must-have centerpieces for today’s modern families. The all-new M-Series signature design in screen sizes of 32” (M321i), 40” (M401i), 47” (M471i), 50” (M501d), 55” (M551d), 60” (M601d), 65” (M651d), 70” (M701d) and 80” (M801d),pair superior picture quality with an ultra-slim frame for a more immersive viewing experience. The ultra-thin bezels of the M-Series virtually vanish next to the near edge-to-edge glass screen for a signature look that updates any room’s appearance. Unique interior metal construction in the base and neck adds stability while a beautifully finished exterior complements the design and helps set the new standard for affordable HDTV luxury.

“The M-Series family utilizes a blend of thoughtful design detailing, minimalist construction and premium materials to create a line of HDTVs consumers will be proud to showcase in their homes,” said Scott McManigal, VIZIO VP of Design. “The sleek, near bezel-free design reduces distractions and enhances the rich picture quality allowing for a superior all-picture viewing experience.”

Building on its leadership as the #1 brand in the U.S. for WiFi flat-panel TVs4, VIZIO’s new M-Series Razor LED Smart TVs feature a best-in-class connected TV experience with the latest picture quality technologies. Features like advanced local dimming, 240Hz refresh rate with Smooth Motion for the 50” and larger models and a brighter, flicker-free Theater 3D™ experience with lightweight, battery-free glasses, build on the M-Series franchise. All of the new M-Series units offer VIZIO Internet Apps® (V.I.A.) allowing consumers to enjoy their favorite apps like Amazon Instant Video, Crackle, Facebook®, HuluPlus, M-Go, Netflix®, Pandora®, VUDU, YouTube® and more. The award-winning Smart TV platform offers the industry’s easiest out-of-box experience, designed to allow users of all experience levels to quickly breeze through set=up and start watching TV or browse their favorite apps. A new convenience feature for 2013, VIZIO’s M-Series models will include Wi-Fi Direct universal remote controls with backlit keys, providing an intuitive way to control the entire home theater without nagging codes and programming.

“The new VIZIO M-Series line-up offers consumers a better entertainment experience with a clean, industrial design that now matches the superior picture quality and great Smart TV experience we are known for,” said Matt McRae, VIZIO Chief Technology Officer. “The M-Series line is the perfect combination of leading technologies, highlighted by the easiest out-of-the-box experience, most popular TV apps on the market and an immersive, all picture viewing experience.”

In addition to an enhanced line of M-Series Razor LED Smart HDTVs, VIZIO will also be unveiling its first Ultra HDTV offerings this year at CES. With four-times the resolution of Full HD 1080p, the premium XVT-Series Ultra HD Razor LED Smart TVs with Theater 3D offer the ultimate in resolution and picture quality. VIZIO will launch the 55” (XVT551d), 65” (XVT651d) and 70” (XVT701d) Ultra HD units later this year, making it one of the first technology innovators to bring the expensive new technology to mainstream consumers.

Featuring the same sleek, industrial design of VIZIO’s new M-Series line, the new XVT-Series screen size classes of 55”, 65” and 70” Ultra HDTVs also boast an ultra-slim frame and Razor LED technology, packing brilliant clarity, color and richer detail into the most immersive, all-picture viewing experience possible. VIZIO’s Theater 3D technology included in the new XVT-Series takes movies, sports and gaming into a new dimension while an effective refresh rate of 240 Hz keeps even the most fast-moving pictures smooth and stable.

“As content creators continue to push the limits to produce ever-increasingly rich and intricate worlds for their stories, we’re excited to be one of the first major brands to bring premium, Ultra HD resolution into the home,” said Matt McRae, VIZIO Chief Technology Officer. “Ultra HD is the latest must-have upgrade for the home theater, giving discerning fans of our flagship XVT-Series access to cutting-edge technologies and an unprecedented high definition picture."

While the M- and XVT-Series will be unveiled at CES and available later in the year, VIZIO’s popular entry-level E-Series line-up is available now and offers consumers an all-LED2 collection made affordable for every household. Bringing superb picture quality to consumers at a great value, the E-Series HDTVs have already seen great success at retail with large screen sizes of 70” (E701i), 65” (E650i), 60” (E601i) and 55” (E551i), as well as smaller units in 50” (E500i and E500d), 42” (E420d), 39” (E390i), 29” (E291i), 24” (E241i) and 22” (E221) available to consumers. The sleek, slim-frame LED product line offers advanced local dimming technology on 42” screens and above, SRS StudioSound HD™, a DTS technology, for clear audio and more HDMI inputs when compared to competitive brands, allowing for expanded entertainment options.

VIZIO’s new 2013 HDTV collection will be on display at 2013 CES at the Wynn Hotel’s Mouton Ballroom by appointment only. The M-Series units will be available later this year and additional details on the XVT-Series Ultra HD Razor LED Smart TVs with Theater 3D to be announced closer to commercial availability. Consumers can find the new all-LED E-Series line both in-store and online through key retailers such as Amazon, Best Buy, Costco, Sam’s Club, Target, VIZIO.com and Walmart. More information on VIZIO’s CES announcements can be found at VIZIO.com/CES.

Thanks, this answered my question... so I'll go for the e series 60"...at $800 , still not a bad deal for me at BB...
wish I still had my gas guzzling SUV to bring it home today...
I'll have to wait for delivery from BB...

I pulled the trigger on mine yesterday also...
BB matched the price from BJ's this week for $800...a good deal, I'm happy.
It has a Jan S/N...
with 24mos to pay for it, I will get the extended warranty from Vizio ...to be safe...

I was going back and forth trying to make my decision also,
earlier problems with the 60" and such...new M series coming out,
if I should get a Samsung or Sharp for $300-500 more...
but at $800 I'm happy...
Picture is great...

Well, I hate to do it, but I might have to get a Costco account, just to have a TV...

Is there any idication, based on 2012 models of when they plan to release even info on when they plan to release?

Someone had said they were sold out at Vizio.com, which would normally be a good sign that new stuff is coming, but I just checked and everything is in stock, 60" and 70"s.

I don't beleive they have their 65 in M series in stock, so I imagine they are gearing up for their 2013 release of their models in the M-series.

Rick

Cool, but dang, some word, any word on dates would be great! :P

I'm going to give it a couple of weeks in March to see if anything happens, and then I may have to go the Costco route.

Currently I'm still looking for an entertainment unit/table for this and a coffee table so I can wait a bit.

It seems strange that all the new stuff doesn't come out after xmas here, I mean we're in the 3rd month now and none of the manufacturers that I'm interested in (Vizio, Sharp) have posted anything on their new sets.

I think Vizio just got their new e-series out early last winter (just before the christmas shopping season,) and I think maybe their M3D651SV (2012 model) didn't come out much earlier. I would expect to see something from Vizio on the new models in the M-series in next month.

Rick

Thanks Rick, I appreciate the info.

I'm so pumped for this TV!

Based on what you said though, how does that tell us about 1st or 2nd quarter release dates? Does Vizio do two releases a year?

anyone see a more concrete release date yet?

Nope ... I'm sure we won't anything till they start showing up in stores or maybe they show up on Vizio.com as "Coming Soon" ... but still then who knows.

I am hoping and praying that 70" will be in a Costco store before April 30th (my 90 days return is up then on my 70" E-series Vizio).

This TV will hopefully be my future tv for a few years to come ... I'm tired of going through TV's ... been through 4 of em in the last 6 months or so with no luck (always something wrong with the picture ... blur, banding, dirty look etc. etc.)

If anyone hears anything please let us know.

I'm also interested in the 70" but if the screen is plasma glossy it is a deal breaker for me. The press release mentioned that the 65" would have a glass screen but nothing else about the bigger sizes.

Just so I'm clear. I can go to a Costco, buy a membership, then buy a TV, with no extra anything and in 90 days return it? Do I need the original box? A reason for the return?

I'm without a TV here and may end up doing this just to hold me over until this bad boy comes out, although I feel guilty as dirt doing it.

The 65" will be the only model to have the crappy 'Glossy" screen to it like the current 65" .... the other models will have the same semi-gloss / matte finish they have right now. (this is not just me saying this ... I read this about the smaller and larger screens .. .only the 65 is the gloss)


Yep you sure can ... not recommended of course if you just doing it to hold you out till this new M-Series comes out but it can be done.

I bought the 70" Series cause I I hoped that would be the last TV I needed to buy for some time .. BUT another issue .. the dirty screen is as annoying as the banding on the 65" ......

So, now that they announced this new M-series I am hoping I don;t have to take this E-Series back and bring the old 55" back in the living room before the M-Series releases.

I have till April 30th ... I would take it back today but why would I do that when I have a full 90 days ... this way hopefully the new M comes out before my 90 days and I can just swap them right then and there.

bumpage. any update on a release date?

It was posted in the 70" Vizio thread that that set is now $15xx at Sams. Could mean the beginning of the push to clear inventory ahead of 2013 models.

I currently have that 70" E-Series set and it has been $15xx since the end of January ... but I hope your right that since it has stayed about that price they are looking to push this line and size fast due to the upcoming M-Series stuff that will for sure take the current E-Series products of most guys buying list.

My 90 days is up on April 30th ... so I sure hope this 70" M-Series TV is out by then.

Fingers Are Crossed!!!

The lower end 70" sharp is out for 2013, so I guess the gates are open. I think by the end of April we should be set. Now that I learned there is a 70" Sony coming though, I'm not so sure about the Vizio.

Man, waiting is the hardest thing...

I just stumbled on this thread and info on the upcoming M-Series for the 2013. The 70" model is intriguing for the price, and I'm interesting in what their 4k sets will run.

What model Sony did you see coming in 70"? Last I saw, the higher end series only had a 55" announced, but I'd love to see something much bigger.

Here you go bro:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1460590/official-2013-sony-r550a-series-tvs-kdl-xxr550a-50-60-and-70#post_23069515

Looks Very Nice ... but knowing Sony it's gonna be about twice the price of a Vizio (or at least a grand or so more).

My first Big Screen HD TV was Sony and I loved it ... but the prices of Vizio are just to hard to beat now a days.

Looking forward to seeing them both.

But at the moment this vixio 70" M-Series is #1 on my list.

The availability has to be very close. Vizio website showing out of stock on many LED models, including 60 and 70".