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post #3421 of 8793
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Originally Posted by Jay7h View Post


2. Remote sporadic. Take a look at my "fix" at this You tube site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZge3rDWsOo

I'm not sure that I realized (buying my 70 inch in two weeks) just how clueless Vizio was with the placement of the remote sensor. The only place that would be more illogical to place it would be on the back of their set. I just can't believe that ANYONE who has even 20 minutes of experience with a TV would choose to put the remote sensor on the underside of the TV. Hell, no wonder why it doesn't work for anyone. Sorry Vizio, but this is just plain dopey!

John
post #3422 of 8793
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Originally Posted by Enigma869 View Post

I'm not sure that I realized (buying my 70 inch in two weeks) just how clueless Vizio was with the placement of the remote sensor. The only place that would be more illogical to place it would be on the back of their set. I just can't believe that ANYONE who has even 20 minutes of experience with a TV would choose to put the remote sensor on the underside of the TV. Hell, no wonder why it doesn't work for anyone. Sorry Vizio, but this is just plain dopey!

John

Yup, pretty awful location. I haven't had nearly as many issues as others, but having to point it dead on every time is annoying. That said though, I'm not really sure where else they could've put it. Maybe hidden it behind the little Vizio tab on the front? I guess they just assumed everyone would mount their TV above a fireplace.
post #3423 of 8793
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Originally Posted by Enigma869 View Post

I'm not sure that I realized (buying my 70 inch in two weeks) just how clueless Vizio was with the placement of the remote sensor. The only place that would be more illogical to place it would be on the back of their set. I just can't believe that ANYONE who has even 20 minutes of experience with a TV would choose to put the remote sensor on the underside of the TV. Hell, no wonder why it doesn't work for anyone. Sorry Vizio, but this is just plain dopey!

John

If I remember correctly users of Harmony 600/650/700 remotes are not having any issues with the placement of the IR sensor so it's a non issue for them. Really, if you have at least 3 devices (TV, BDP, cable/satellite receiver) which I think is the case for most of us why wouldn't you have one?
post #3424 of 8793
I don't think it is a problem with the sensor placement as much as it is a problem with the included remote just having a very narrow signal field. My Harmony One doesn't have anywhere near the problems that the included remote has because it sprays the signal over a larger area.
post #3425 of 8793
David Katzmaier at cnet.com just posted his review of LG's top 1080p display model, the LG LA8600. I'm fast coming to the conclusion that outside of the Samsung F8000 and Sony KDL-W900a you're not going to get better PQ than the Vizio "M" series from a LED display.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/lg-55la8600/4505-6482_7-35560502-2.html

"Although it delivers somewhat better picture quality overall than last year's LG sets, the flagship LA8600 doesn't really come close to matching the best-of-breed 2013 examples from Sony and Samsung, and also falls short of Vizio's much less expensive M series."

Edit: I think it's time to remove the "for the price" qualifier when assessing the PQ since it's only outperformed by the expensive flagship models from Sony and Samsung.
Edited by venus933 - 8/2/13 at 2:19pm
post #3426 of 8793
Need advice on a soundbar. I was seriously considering the S4251W-B4 Vizio soundbar for use with this TV (M601). Looks like it is getting good reviews.

The only downside, was an issue CNET talked about. They said that you will not get true 5.1 with most TVs because it is "dumbed down" by the TV prior to the audio out on the TV. There was one Sony TV that was listed as an exception.

http://reviews.cnet.com/surround-speaker-systems/vizio-s4251w-b4/4505-7868_7-35560754-2.html

I've read through some posts on this thread an am still unsure as I've seen posts that it will pass 5.1 via bitstream but not PCM. Will my M601 pass true 5.1 to this soundbar?
post #3427 of 8793
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Originally Posted by venus933 View Post

If I remember correctly users of Harmony 600/650/700 remotes are not having any issues with the placement of the IR sensor so it's a non issue for them. Really, if you have at least 3 devices (TV, BDP, cable/satellite receiver) which I think is the case for most of us why wouldn't you have one?

I have a collection of Harmony remote controls, including the 1100, the 900 and The Ultimate (which I just purchased). That wasn't really my point. I'm certain that based on the feedback I've read, I won't have an issue. It still doesn't change the fact that it's a very odd location for an IR sensor.
post #3428 of 8793
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Originally Posted by venus933 View Post

Edit: I think it's time to remove the "for the price" qualifier when assessing the PQ since it's only outperformed by the expensive flagship models from Sony and Samsung.

Seriously. When I was at Best Buy looking at the TV's, nothing outside of the few plasmas they had on display touched the Vizio in terms of PQ. It's crazy seeing the Vizio for $800, then a similarly sized LG or Samsung that costs $400-$500 more with a picture that doesn't look nearly as good. I know they aren't calibrated and whatnot, but still.
post #3429 of 8793


About to get to work. Actually, about to go to my real job and try to leave early to hook up the new toys. I will post after-pics and first impressions when I'm done. Good luck to me.
post #3430 of 8793
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Originally Posted by lotohnz View Post


Looks like you have some banding in the center of the screen, which would cause DSE. If it bothers you I would replace the set. because once you're seen it, It won't be unseen. As you mention, that's kind of the paradox with these kind of forums.

I read forums for years before I finally got a HDTV. Reading about clouding, flashlighting, SOE, DSE, banding etc. on HDTVs made it terrifying to finally pull the trigger on an expensive flatscreen. I just KNEW I was going to get a panel with everything that could possibly go wrong, even though my 16 year old Sony CRT had everything I just mentioned and more (the picture was so tilted the Hobbits walked downhill throughout the entire LotR trilogy). When CRTs were the prevailing tech nobody had words and the internet for all that yet. Now that I know what to label all that I'm constantly looking for flashlighting and anything else that could possibly go wrong, instead of just enjoying the show. But also, now that I know what to look for, it would be impossible to ignore glaring issues.

And really, the whole point of HD is accuracy and fidelity. Here in the space age we shouldn't settle for anything less.

/rant

I decided to take back the set and try my luck on another one. You're totally right that it would have kept bothering me if I didn't.

And the best news, the replacement has no banding, so it worked out.
post #3431 of 8793
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Originally Posted by robjulo View Post

Need advice on a soundbar. I was seriously considering the S4251W-B4 Vizio soundbar for use with this TV (M601). Looks like it is getting good reviews.

The only downside, was an issue CNET talked about. They said that you will not get true 5.1 with most TVs because it is "dumbed down" by the TV prior to the audio out on the TV. There was one Sony TV that was listed as an exception.

http://reviews.cnet.com/surround-speaker-systems/vizio-s4251w-b4/4505-7868_7-35560754-2.html

I've read through some posts on this thread an am still unsure as I've seen posts that it will pass 5.1 via bitstream but not PCM. Will my M601 pass true 5.1 to this soundbar?

Your TV will only pass through PCM stereo signals from HDMI connected devices from the optical audio output. The TV however will pass DD and DTS signals from the optical audio output for OTA and streaming sources.

If you want to get the most out of your sound bar (it can decode DTS and DD signals) then you can connect the audio directly up to two devices (it has 1 optical input and 1 coaxial input). But if you do connect two devices directly to the soundbar then it gets complicated for getting audio from your TV sources (streaming and OTA) to the soundbar. One possible workaround would be if your Blu-ray player can pass though audio from the ARC HDMI port of your TV.

Since I doubt you'll get much benefit from decoding DTS and DD signals with the soundbar I would just go with using the optical output from the TV. I'm assuming you will not be using a AV receiver.
Edited by venus933 - 8/2/13 at 4:50pm
post #3432 of 8793
Has anyone experienced there M-501d not powering on after a recent firmware update. I have a two 2013 M-Series one that I have connected to the internet and one that I have not, the updated set flashed onscreen that it had updated to 1.06 and then suddenly shut off and now won't turn back on. I tried unplugging the set for several minute and holding the power button down for 30 seconds as suggested with no luck.
post #3433 of 8793
Anyone find a sure fire way to push an update? I've had my 60 for a month now and still running 1.05.1. Still loving it, even thinking about upgrading to the 70.
post #3434 of 8793
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Originally Posted by venus933 View Post



Since I doubt you'll get much benefit from decoding DTS and DD signals with the soundbar I would just go with using the optical output from the TV. I'm assuming you will not be using a AV receiver.

Your post had a lot of very helpful information. Thank you.

My question is on this part above. If I am interested in surrounding effect, ie the ambience of a football game and the surround effect from movies from the rear channels, I assume either a direct hookup to the soundbar, as you suggested, or a full home theatre receiver would be a better solution?
post #3435 of 8793
Hi everyone,

After a lot of research I finally decided to pull the trigger on the M 70" - Instead of skimming through 115 pages here, can someone please let me know if there is a calibration setting I can use?

I can't wait for this thing to come in.

Thanks!
post #3436 of 8793
Hi everyone,

After a lot of research I finally decided to pull the trigger on the M 70" - Instead of skimming through 115 pages here, can someone please let me know if there is a calibration setting I can use?

I can't wait for this thing to come in.

Thanks!
post #3437 of 8793
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Originally Posted by robjulo View Post

Your post had a lot of very helpful information. Thank you.

My question is on this part above. If I am interested in surrounding effect, ie the ambience of a football game and the surround effect from movies from the rear channels, I assume either a direct hookup to the soundbar, as you suggested, or a full home theatre receiver would be a better solution?

You would be decoding DD and DTS signals so in theory it would be a better solution. I would seek out forums pertaining to the soundbar and get/seek out comments from actual owners.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1451371/vizios-new-true-5-1-soundbar-s4251w/120
post #3438 of 8793
Just had my M801d purchased from Amazon delivered. It replaces a Panasonic 65" Plasma I bought 7 years ago. So far, I'm loving it. Here it is in the AV room:

post #3439 of 8793
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Originally Posted by fperra View Post

Just had my M801d purchased from Amazon delivered. It replaces a Panasonic 65" Plasma I bought 7 years ago. So far, I'm loving it. Here it is in the AV room:

That is a nice setup. How do you keep your cat away from your speakers?
post #3440 of 8793
He likes to take out his aggressions on the rug.
post #3441 of 8793
Hmmm having a weird issue with my replacement 50". I have my Mac Mini connected via HDMI running Plex. The TV is configured as the second monitor and plays full screen on the TV. If the TV is on all is fine.

If I turn the TV off, it seems the HDMI keeps trying to auto detect the display every few minutes and the display on my other monitor will freeze and flash a blue screen. This it typical behaviour of an HDMI handshake. But why does it keep happening with the set on standby? My original set didn't act like this, nor did the Vizio E series I replaced. One difference is this unit hasn't yet had the FW update, while the one I returned did update.

I've rebooted the Mac, but no difference. Anyone else seeing anything like this?
post #3442 of 8793
Ok, so my 55" was dead and went back to pick up the 60" instead. Thankfully it is working as it should smile.gif
post #3443 of 8793
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Originally Posted by fperra View Post

He likes to take out his aggressions on the rug.

Or you can custom build cat screens with 1/4 inch galvanized mesh wire. Works great.

post #3444 of 8793
Any Harmony 650 owners here? I've got it all programmed to my new M50, and it's working great aside from one issue. I have a "Watch TV" activity that sets the input to HDMI1 and a "Chromecast" custom activity that sets the HDMI2 input. The problem is, from a cold start, the input is not being set properly. I figured it was an issue of setting a larger delay on the TV component to allow it to fully "boot", but that doesn't work even if I set a delay of 20 seconds. Has anyone else run into this, and how have you solved it?
post #3445 of 8793
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Originally Posted by Carrman216 View Post

Hi everyone,

After a lot of research I finally decided to pull the trigger on the M 70" - Instead of skimming through 115 pages here, can someone please let me know if there is a calibration setting I can use?

I can't wait for this thing to come in.

Thanks!

Here ya go buddy!

Calibration Settings...


Good luck!
post #3446 of 8793
I'm on the fence between the M50 or the Panasonic p50s64 from Costco. I've been back and forth for months. I'm just looking to do casual gaming and watching sports/movies at night. The Vizio is $130 more. Worth it?
post #3447 of 8793
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Originally Posted by DaveMN View Post

Any Harmony 650 owners here? I've got it all programmed to my new M50, and it's working great aside from one issue. I have a "Watch TV" activity that sets the input to HDMI1 and a "Chromecast" custom activity that sets the HDMI2 input. The problem is, from a cold start, the input is not being set properly. I figured it was an issue of setting a larger delay on the TV component to allow it to fully "boot", but that doesn't work even if I set a delay of 20 seconds. Has anyone else run into this, and how have you solved it?

I have a Harmony 600 and occasionally the correct input wouldn't be selected for my soundbar from a cold start if it needed to be switched. I got around that by adding a "start action" which would set the desired input. Basically it repeats the action that's already there from the existing set up but it worked.
Edited by venus933 - 8/3/13 at 6:45am
post #3448 of 8793
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Originally Posted by venus933 View Post

I have a Harmony 600 and occasionally the correct input wouldn't be selected for my soundbar from a cold start if it needed to be switched. I got around that by adding a "start action" which would set the desired input. Basically it repeats the action that's already there from the existing set up but it worked.

Are you using myharmony.com or the installed software to configure your remote? On myharmony.com, when I select "Customize Activity", it lets me add a new step, but the "Input" command is not among the options.
post #3449 of 8793
Question for guys with Xbox 360s. Anyone experience when you start up the Xbox you get a colored blank screen? I don't think it's my Xbox because if I use te controller I can still hear the system working just a blank screen. Not sure if its an hdmi issue or what. It doesn't happen all the time. It seems to be if I turn the system on before changing to the correct input.
post #3450 of 8793
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Originally Posted by DaveMN View Post

Are you using myharmony.com or the installed software to configure your remote? On myharmony.com, when I select "Customize Activity", it lets me add a new step, but the "Input" command is not among the options.

The installed software. I added the M50 as a device and I see there are no input commands specific to any of the HDMI inputs. There is an input command but I assume that either works as a toggle or brings up a screen to select a specific input. Gosh darn it all it doesn't look like my suggestion will help you. Sorry.
Edited by venus933 - 8/3/13 at 8:08am
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