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post #3451 of 8823
I bought a 55" last night and I'm disappointed. I thought it would be a good set based on most of your inputs.

My biggest problem is the left and right edges, during any light background scene there is almost a what I'd describe as a"phantom" edge about 1/4 inch in from where the picture actually ends. Before the picture meets the edge of the bezel there's a dark transparent line.

Does anyone else have a 55" with a similar problem ? The display in BB also had a funky edge however the 60" looked perfectly fine.

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post #3452 of 8823
Real quick question, what is the latest FW for the 50"? I have 1.06.2.015.
post #3453 of 8823
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Originally Posted by jayissuperman View Post

Question for guys with Xbox 360s. Anyone experience when you start up the Xbox you get a colored blank screen? I don't think it's my Xbox because if I use te controller I can still hear the system working just a blank screen. Not sure if its an hdmi issue or what. It doesn't happen all the time. It seems to be if I turn the system on before changing to the correct input.
A few updates back on the 360 MS's HDMI handshake changed a bit. If you turn your system on before turning on the TV it will force the 360 to restart as well,sometimes causing the screen you speak of. I have noticed on mine as well, but have seen on wife's old plasma too.
post #3454 of 8823
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

A few updates back on the 360 MS's HDMI handshake changed a bit. If you turn your system on before turning on the TV it will force the 360 to restart as well,sometimes causing the screen you speak of. I have noticed on mine as well, but have seen on wife's old plasma too.
Cool thanks man. Glad it isn't my system!
post #3455 of 8823
Dave, I have a plan B...

for both of your activities (Watch TV and Chromecast) under Customize Buttons set up an additional button for the TV's input (DEVICE: TV, COMMAND: Input) preferably on the first page for easier access.

Hopefully after a cold start you can simply hit that button till the correct input is selected. This will save you the trouble of going into device mode and doing the same thing.
post #3456 of 8823
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Originally Posted by venus933 View Post

Your TV will only pass through PCM stereo signals from HDMI connected devices from the optical audio output. The TV however will pass DD and DTS signals from the optical audio output for OTA and streaming sources.

If you want to get the most out of your sound bar (it can decode DTS and DD signals) then you can connect the audio directly up to two devices (it has 1 optical input and 1 coaxial input). But if you do connect two devices directly to the soundbar then it gets complicated for getting audio from your TV sources (streaming and OTA) to the soundbar. One possible workaround would be if your Blu-ray player can pass though audio from the ARC HDMI port of your TV.

Since I doubt you'll get much benefit from decoding DTS and DD signals with the soundbar I would just go with using the optical output from the TV. I'm assuming you will not be using a AV receiver.

I have the Vizio 5.1 soundbar as well. My 70" is able to pass DTS signals (bitstream) from any device connected to the TV via HDMI to the Optical input of the soundbar. You need to have the internal speakers set to OFF and make sure you select Bitstream under Digital Audio Out. See pg 22 of the online TV manual. This was also discussed in the soundbar forum.
post #3457 of 8823
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Originally Posted by Klingon View Post

I have the Vizio 5.1 soundbar as well. My 70" is able to pass DTS signals (bitstream) from any device connected to the TV via HDMI to the Optical input of the soundbar. You need to have the internal speakers set to OFF and make sure you select Bitstream under Digital Audio Out. See pg 22 of the online TV manual. This was also discussed in the soundbar forum.

My bad and thanks for the correction. Most televisions don't pass through bitstream from HDMI sources and I made a bad assumption. This is another plus for me getting a "M" series over the F7100. cool.gif
post #3458 of 8823
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Originally Posted by dvdchance View Post

Real quick question, what is the latest FW for the 50"? I have 1.06.2.015.

That seems to be about right. My 55" is running v1.06.6.1136. I think only the 60" 70" and 80" are running v1.08 so far.

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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

A few updates back on the 360 MS's HDMI handshake changed a bit. If you turn your system on before turning on the TV it will force the 360 to restart as well,sometimes causing the screen you speak of. I have noticed on mine as well, but have seen on wife's old plasma too.

Did your 50" update fix itself?
post #3459 of 8823
Anyone got calibration setting for M601D model?? I tried searching in the thread but can't find 60 inch setting in spreadsheet.
post #3460 of 8823
UNCHARTED 3 3D:

For those of you who have played this on the M-Series, how did you configure your 3D settings on the PS3 and in the game for best results?
post #3461 of 8823
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Originally Posted by Keyjey View Post

Anyone got calibration setting for M601D model?? I tried searching in the thread but can't find 60 inch setting in spreadsheet.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1452199/official-vizio-m-series-razor-mxx1i-thread/2970
Post#2973-reposted, of Ursa's settings. Use those settings, and you're done.
You can leave smart dimming on, and smooth motion to Medium if you prefer(I did). Best settings I've seen for the M601d(I have 2 of them-both using those settings).

I bookmarked them to make finding them easier(hint). That way, I can just bring the laptop to the TV, run through the settings(remember-if you use different HDMI inputs, you must calibrate each-as your settings don't carry over).
post #3462 of 8823
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Originally Posted by lotohnz View Post

That seems to be about right. My 55" is running v1.06.6.1136. I think only the 60" 70" and 80" are running v1.08 so far.
Did your 50" update fix itself?
I haven't had any luck getting to work properly. It is erratic at best only using the rear button will power it on now, but it seems after the boot sequence the sets stability is shaky at best.
post #3463 of 8823
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

I haven't had any luck getting to work properly. It is erratic at best only using the rear button will power it on now, but it seems after the boot sequence the sets stability is shaky at best.

Have you tried a factory reset? Maybe the update didn't completely install for some reason.
post #3464 of 8823
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Originally Posted by havasuvideo View Post

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1452199/official-vizio-m-series-razor-mxx1i-thread/2970
Post#2973-reposted, of Ursa's settings. Use those settings, and you're done.
You can leave smart dimming on, and smooth motion to Medium if you prefer(I did). Best settings I've seen for the M601d(I have 2 of them-both using those settings).

I bookmarked them to make finding them easier(hint). That way, I can just bring the laptop to the TV, run through the settings(remember-if you use different HDMI inputs, you must calibrate each-as your settings don't carry over).

60" seem to be any better or worse screen quality / uniformity compared to the 55" ? I got a 55" Vizio M-series the other day and the reflections are killing me compared to my 40" Sony LCD from 6 years ago which the Vizio is "upgrading". My room only has 2 windows with coverings on them and the glare is night and day from the Sony.

Sure the Vizio looks great in the dark, 3d Bluray is awesome, but I want a TV I can watch the rest of the 85% of the time I usually watch TV and movies without seeing myself or my living room in the screen.

I also have pretty noticeable flashlighting and blooming too from the corners and sides of screen that randomly move as bright objects are displayed. And this is after calibration and turning off the extra option stuff. Pretty sure this set is going back to Amazon frown.gif I wanted to love it....
post #3465 of 8823
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Originally Posted by backmeup View Post

UNCHARTED 3 3D:

For those of you who have played this on the M-Series, how did you configure your 3D settings on the PS3 and in the game for best results?

I just ran the display set up on the PS3. It asked the size of my screen and it was set. I turned the 3d all the way up on the game settings and it looks incredible.
post #3466 of 8823
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Originally Posted by lotohnz View Post

Have you tried a factory reset? Maybe the update didn't completely install for some reason.
I tried holding the power button down for 30 seconds to do a factory restart. I was able to get the TV to power on,but I have no control of the set by remote. Since the set doesn't have any buttons but the power button,which will power on the set I am unable to make any further adjustments. Normally if you tap it multiple times it will bring up input options,but it won't even do that. Once display is powered on I am unable to power off with button on TV.I have tried my cable remote that I had programmed to control the set and the vizio remote with no response from either.
post #3467 of 8823
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Originally Posted by lotohnz View Post

That seems to be about right. My 55" is running v1.06.6.1136. I think only the 60" 70" and 80" are running v1.08 so far.
Did your 50" update fix itself?

my 55" is running V1.06.02.015; how does it get updated? can we force it? it has been only 1 week after installation btw. does it take more time before it updates itself. I have tried to force by selecting "service check" no avail.
post #3468 of 8823
I have a strange problem on my 55". the internet (wired connection ) only says it is 2MB after "TEST SPEED" feature in the menu. I have tried to replace the cable, I have tested the exact place /drop with a laptop and using speedtest.com it is >56MB/s.
can anybody with a wired connection do a "TEST SPEED" in the "connection menu" and tell me what it reports?
Also any ideas why my TV only report 2-3MB/s?
post #3469 of 8823
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Originally Posted by Tony37x View Post

60" seem to be any better or worse screen quality / uniformity compared to the 55" ? I got a 55" Vizio M-series the other day and the reflections are killing me compared to my 40" Sony LCD from 6 years ago which the Vizio is "upgrading". My room only has 2 windows with coverings on them and the glare is night and day from the Sony.

Sure the Vizio looks great in the dark, 3d Bluray is awesome, but I want a TV I can watch the rest of the 85% of the time I usually watch TV and movies without seeing myself or my living room in the screen.

I also have pretty noticeable flashlighting and blooming too from the corners and sides of screen that randomly move as bright objects are displayed. And this is after calibration and turning off the extra option stuff. Pretty sure this set is going back to Amazon frown.gif I wanted to love it....

I'm in the same boat as you. The flashlighting, DSE, and blooming are worse than average on this TV. I not only have flash lighting on the side but on the bottom near the middle as well ( how does that happen ?). I also have these dark lines on both sides. Do you have these ? The 55" in BB had pretty bad Left and Right edges too and the 60" did look much better, but I assumed since it was the same model that maybe the 55" was a "bad" one.

The 3D is nice, I really do prefer passive over active, overall I'm pleased with the ( not dark room) PQ but this is my 4th set (2Sams, 1 Sony) in the past 3 weeks and this one ranks lowest next to the Sony 802a. I really wanted this to be the one, I really don't want to return another TV, it's starting to get awkward, but gawdamn either I have the worst luck ever, or tv's really suck nowadays.

It seems like people on here don't want to talk about the blooming, flashlighting, or banding. Either that or they all have perfect sets. My luck sucks !
post #3470 of 8823
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Originally Posted by se7encrows View Post



Reporting in to say my 60" M-series finally got the update today.

did you set the TV to factory defaults and did the service check or just service check to get the update?
post #3471 of 8823
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Originally Posted by Emma1420 View Post

Does anyone has have chronic internet connectivity issues with their M501d? I purchased a set on Saturday and since then I've had chronic issues (both wifi and the ethernet cable), and when I click on Youtube it now shuts the set off. I appear to have only been updated to 1.04 with the firmware. Vizio has had me do a factory reset multiple times. So this set is going back. However, I didn't know if these were chronic issues? Basically I don't know if I should take the risk and exchange the set for another one, or if I would be better off buying a different set (I'm thinking a Panasonic s60, although I'm not sure how much more reflective it is than the Vizio).

can you tell me what is your wired speed as quoted by the TV's "TEST SPEED" function under connection menu?
Mine reports on 2-3MB even though I checked with laptop; removing the cable from the TV and connecting to the laptop and checking with speedtest.com reports >56MB/s
post #3472 of 8823
Did y'all realize that in game mode, smooth motion effect, reduce signal noise and reduce block noise do nothing. You can put them on the highest setting and it doesn't change a thing. I calibrated mine in game mode and I normally have all those turned off anyway but I was just playing around when I realized that they don't do a thing in game mode. I changed modes and turned all those on high and the results are pretty obvious but, in game mode nothing changes. I actually like this since it means they can't get turned on by accident. Just found it interesting, I guess this is how they keep the input lag down in game mode.
Edited by rolltide1017 - 8/4/13 at 6:00am
post #3473 of 8823
Playing with my M801d and can't get 3D playback working. I'm not sure if it's the TV or another link in the chain. I have 3D BD main movie ISO rips on a NAS being played through a Popcorn Hour A400. Ripped with DVDFab, latest version, on a Mac. I have 3D turned on on the A400. Going through an Emotiva UMC-200 pre/pro and a Monoprice 8 port HDMI switch plus a HDMI balun kit from pre to the TV.

When I start playback, I get no indication from the TV that a 3D signal is being played. It just plays in 2D. If I hit the 3D button and try to configure it, I see only options for 2D, SBS, TB, and Sensio. Nothing for Real3D/MVC format as the BD rip is.

Is the TV supposed to give a notice that a 3D signal is being played? I'm on a 1.05 firmware still. Thanks!
post #3474 of 8823
My 60" is running the v1.05 firmware and was wondering how I can update to 1.08. Also, just watched my first movie on this TV (Avatar 3D) and have to say that I was amazed with the PQ.

One other question I have... Got a Sony HTIB and cable TV gives me surround sound but when I try to use Vizio Apps, I get no sound and have to revert to TV sound. Granted I can use Netflix/YouTube from the Sony but would be nice to get surround from the Vizio as well.

I have an HDMI cable (Arc) going from the HTIB [out] to HDMI 1 to the Vizio. Also, one other HDMI cable going from the cable box to HDMI 1 on the Sony. Do I need an additional HDMI cable to get surround for the Vizio. I still have HDMI 2 open on the Sony HTIB to and 2 HDMI in the back of the Vizio to use.
Edited by camui78 - 8/4/13 at 4:25am
post #3475 of 8823
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Originally Posted by JaremyP View Post

Playing with my M801d and can't get 3D playback working. I'm not sure if it's the TV or another link in the chain. I have 3D BD main movie ISO rips on a NAS being played through a Popcorn Hour A400. Ripped with DVDFab, latest version, on a Mac. I have 3D turned on on the A400. Going through an Emotiva UMC-200 pre/pro and a Monoprice 8 port HDMI switch plus a HDMI balun kit from pre to the TV.

When I start playback, I get no indication from the TV that a 3D signal is being played. It just plays in 2D. If I hit the 3D button and try to configure it, I see only options for 2D, SBS, TB, and Sensio. Nothing for Real3D/MVC format as the BD rip is.

Is the TV supposed to give a notice that a 3D signal is being played? I'm on a 1.05 firmware still. Thanks!

If it's going through any switch, hub, splitter it's probably not going to send the 3D signal through. I have the same problem, my DirecTV and Popcornhour go through a Monoprice switch and splitter and I have to manually turn on the 3D on the set when using the PCH or BR player. I can't even use 3D with DirecTV unless I connect the DVR to the TV directly. Otherwise it tells me my TV isn't 3D and won't even display a picture. I have a 55" XVT554 3D set.
post #3476 of 8823
What are you turning on for 3d though? A 3d bd should be a MVC format, but if I try to just turn 3d on manually, I only see sbs/tb/sensio options.

I don't mind if it doesn't prompt me, I just want it to won't.
post #3477 of 8823
"Did y'all realize that in game mode, smooth motion effect, reduce signal noise and reduce block noise do nothing. You can put them on the highest setting and it doesn't change a thing. I calibrated mine in game mode and I normally have all those turned off anyway but I was just playing around when I realized that they don't do a thing in game mode. I changed modes and turned all those on high and the results are pretty obvious but, in game mode nothing changes. I actually like this since it means they can't get turned on by accident. Just found it interesting, I guess this is how they keep the I out lag down in game mode."

You mean I have been enjoying fast-paced sports with just 120hz all this time? I will try watching some later today using another mode and smooth motion on medium to see if it gets even better biggrin.gif. Thanks!
post #3478 of 8823
Plug your A400 directly into the TV and see if it works then. If it works, add the pre/pro into the chain, if that works then your problem is the switch. I doubt the problem is the TV, sounds like one of your devices in the chain is not passing the 3D signal.
post #3479 of 8823
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Originally Posted by RexHarrison View Post

I'm in the same boat as you. The flashlighting, DSE, and blooming are worse than average on this TV. I not only have flash lighting on the side but on the bottom near the middle as well ( how does that happen ?). I also have these dark lines on both sides. Do you have these ? The 55" in BB had pretty bad Left and Right edges too and the 60" did look much better, but I assumed since it was the same model that maybe the 55" was a "bad" one.

The 3D is nice, I really do prefer passive over active, overall I'm pleased with the ( not dark room) PQ but this is my 4th set (2Sams, 1 Sony) in the past 3 weeks and this one ranks lowest next to the Sony 802a. I really wanted this to be the one, I really don't want to return another TV, it's starting to get awkward, but gawdamn either I have the worst luck ever, or tv's really suck nowadays.

It seems like people on here don't want to talk about the blooming, flashlighting, or banding. Either that or they all have perfect sets. My luck sucks !

Rex,

if you read through this thread, you will see that many people do report blooming, flashlighting, and banding issues. It is an edge-lit set. These issues are limitations of this technology. It is all a matter of personal tolerance. What bothers you may or may not bother someone else as much - especially at this price point. Also, it seems that some of these issues are worse on some screen sizes and better on other sizes. I have a 70, and have posted that flashlighting is only visible when some light content is across an all-dark background - like when movie credits are rolling. No banding or DSE, but some mild blooming when viewed at extreme side angles. Most other 70 owners seem pleased overall. If your 55 is that bad, exchange it. That model seems like it is a lottery - some good, some bad. It is disappointing that the PQ of this "one model" from Vizio varies so much across so many screen sizes.
post #3480 of 8823
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Originally Posted by fr8doggr View Post

You mean I have been enjoying fast-paced sports with just 120hz all this time? I will try watching some later today using another mode and smooth motion on medium to see if it gets even better biggrin.gif. Thanks!

Appears that way, unless there is something wrong with my TV that is only affecting game mode. I've also noticed that my TV no longer gets a little brighter when it detects a 3D signal so maybe TV is starting to have issues. That would suck because I've only had this one for about a week. I don't know what I did to stop it from getting brighter for 3D but, I wish I could reverse it. Didn't mind it a little brighter for 3D. I tried a complete factory reset and that didn't work.

Could someone else test those picture settings in game mode and see if they change anything. Smooth motion effect on high should be really obvious.
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