Originally Posted by moto57
I'm curious about this as well, I've been living with the LG 55la7400 for about 3 weeks now and I am pretty disappointed with the black level PQ. I have been contemplating taking it back to get the m series, which is what I was intending to get when I started this search for a new tv. I went with the LG as sort of an impulse buy when MicroCenter had it for $999.00, I guess this is what I get for chasing a good deal rather than really looking out for a good set!
Thanks for sharing this. Once I decided to return the Samsung F6300, the other set I've been considering along with the Vizio M is the LG LA6900, their least expensive set with local dimming. Based on your comments, I'm probably making the right move by switching to the Vizio instead of the LG.
I have a two-year old LG 47LW5600 that I'm moving upstairs, and I know from experience (and plenty of reviews) that LGs just don't have the black levels (with maybe an exception for last year's LM7600, which both CNET and televisioninfo.com liked). I will only watch my LG with local dimming on, because at least I get a bit more depth to go along with the great color it offers. The flashlighting didn't bug me too much.
FWIW, the Samsung F6350 I'm taking back does not even come close to my LG, which shocked me. Blacks were nice until you got to dark, moody scenes -- there, you're just treated to lots of flat grey. There's a scene in the first Star Trek reboot where Nero's lit face fills the left half, with the right half of the screen mostly in shadow. His face looked great, while the shadows washed into a 75-80% grey with no detail. It's one thing to get crushed shadow detail if the blacks are, well, black. It's quite another if it's crushed into grey. Sheesh. Completely unacceptable.
Originally Posted by moto57
Here's a couple pictures of the same calibrations on both "expert 1" and "cinema," as you can see expert 1 is horribly flushed out and has no detail whatsoever. Anything like this from any M series owners? I'm just curious since LG supposedly supplies the panels for many of the Vizio's anyway..
These are all with smart dimming "off," and the settings the same between picture modes as calibrated via WOW disc.
What's up with all of the purple/lavender?
Is that just the screen color-shifting on you because you were shooting from slightly above? The ones without the purple look pretty close to what my old LG offers, but it's hard to tell with photos online. The rocks that look lavender in your last photo appears close to what I was getting on the Sammy (but no coloration like that).
I'm really excited about the M Series. I know none of these sets are perfect. I'll be more than happy if the M can beat my old LG in black level while still offering equivalent or better shadow detail. Flashlighting with Smart Dimming, if it happens on the set I get, will be tolerable for me personally if my main criteria is met. Didn't go to get it tonight. Probably tomorrow evening. Can't wait!