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post #4171 of 8781
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Originally Posted by netkrazed View Post

Been a while since I posted. Anywho, I had bad corner bleeds and flowering/blossomimg/flashlighting on my M80. I tweeked as much as could out, but with this in a cave...no windows or outside light at all, I still could not remove them. So yweterday i returned the original ro costco and picked up another. The difference was first set was unboxed to fit in an SUV, this time I used a truck, so no unboxing at store. What an drastic change! Either i messed the panel up in route or it was a QA issue.

So the new set rocks! No blooming/flaslighting/flowering and corner bleeds. Blacks and color look amazing. Thouht the first panel blew my mind, but this one is making it explod!

@netkrazed - i notice there the top right corner has a bleed that just wont go away on my 50" A2r, as well as a portion of the right lower side that always has flashlighting (unless i do some serious auto brightness control)..... i got the tv as an open box deal and brought it home squeezed into the back of an nyc cab... when i got it home the extras (stand, remote, etc) were loose in the box and must have bumped into the panel (but the panel was covered with that thin foam material. Obviously sounds like a recipe for damage but reading all the issues here i figured i got lucky and was just dealing with the same problems everyone has with this set. Do you think it's worth it to try and return to best buy for another set?

thanks!
post #4172 of 8781
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Originally Posted by netkrazed View Post

Ursa, are these the settings you are utilizing now?

No. I'm using these: http://www.avsforum.com/t/1452199/official-vizio-m-series-razor-mxx1i-thread/2550#post_23518914

I thought I deleted those but I guess they are floating around. They are not bad but try the settings above and I think you will be happy with the color. Adjust your backlight, contrast and brightness to your own taste. I keep auto brightness off and use auto dimming sometimes...Viewer discretion on those too.
Ursa
post #4173 of 8781
@ BigAnge ......If it were mine I would. My $.02 for what it's worth.
Edited by netkrazed - 8/29/13 at 4:26pm
post #4174 of 8781
Yup' those are the rgb settings I am using.....and they look great. Just wanted to see if you had tweaked some more. Thanks!
post #4175 of 8781
Has anybody heard anything about the upcoming XVT sets from Vizio? I think they're supposed to be out In the 2nd half this year.
post #4176 of 8781
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Originally Posted by Tnedator View Post

That was it. I disconnected the DECA module from my lan (disconnects all the DVR's from the network), and it worked fine. So, for now I'll stick with Wi-Fi on the guest net.

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk 2

I'm glad that helped. I'm really curious as to what the conflict is with Directv and the Vizio trying to share the internet while on the same network, but there clearly is one.
post #4177 of 8781
I'll have to post some pics of my light bleed soon. It's really not bad at all, but seeing stories of exchanges for nearly perfect sets has me getting a little anxious ...

Mine is a 55" so I'm wondering if I shouldn't just jump up to a 60".
post #4178 of 8781

Hi folks,

 

I just updated my review of the M401i-A3 and have a question. 

 

 

I am familiar with color GAIN, but what is the function of the color OFFSET? 

 

 

Thank you. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #4179 of 8781
Getting them to pick mine back up after only one day. I came in from work last night and the tv will not power up. I have never seen this with any of my tvs in the past. I'm kind of gunshy now and thinking of going with either a different brand or maybe even a 90 or so inch projector.
post #4180 of 8781
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Originally Posted by nhanstop View Post

Edit: Backlight-20-30s, Auto brightness-High, Smart Dimming-Off.
Don't know what my Brightness setting should be. Since it was already at 50(default). I moved it up and down which did not help. I also started with the ambient light in a completely dark room, then turned on all the lights. Nothing. Let me know what your settings are, so I can try them out. Thanks

I am using Falcon's settings. About as good as it gets with this panel (70"). I think I am going to exchange it in about a month. I got this when they first came out, hopefully the later production runs will be better.
post #4181 of 8781
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Originally Posted by jtl46 View Post

I am using Falcon's settings. About as good as it gets with this panel (70"). I think I am going to exchange it in about a month. I got this when they first came out, hopefully the later production runs will be better.

exchange it? months later? just on a whim because you want to? doesn't that seem unethical and a total sleazball move? unless you meant sell it as a used one and repurchase a fresh model and taking the loss yourself instead of foisting the the loss to the mfg or retailer and ultimately the consumer.
post #4182 of 8781
Just an update on my M55 exchange situation. I got the new M55 delivered wednesday, and I'm pleased to report that the flashlighting on my new set is about 85-90% better. Smart dimming still sucks but with that turned off everything looks really good. Due to my recent issues, I've spent the last two days staring and analyzing every inch of the TV. I did notice one thing that's kinda bugging me. It's not enough to make me return it again, but I just thought I would try to describe it and maybe get some feedback. So far I only rarely notice this, and I have only noticed it on dark scenes, but there appears to be a slight vertical "shadow" that seems a little darker than the surrounding area. It's about 7" over from the right side of the screen, and only seems to be visible in like the upper portion of the screen...extending down maybe 12-14". Sort of like a very very slight vertical shadow band. I'm not even sure I would have noticed it if I hadn't been obsessively staring at every portion of the screen.
I watched a football game and couldn't see it, watched like 10 minutes of a pixar movie and didn't see it, but saw it in dark scenes of a movie, and saw it again watching Planet Earth on a deep sea video that was really dark. Like I said, you almost have to be looking for it to notice it....but now that i noticed it I keep looking for it.

I did some googling and saw some vertical shadow band discussions, but everything i was seeing was way, way more severe than what I am talking about. I saw people complaining about basically a very dark vertical shadow that was more or less solid in form and would span the entire height of the screen. Mine feels more like there's just a slight area that isn't getting as much light from the leds as the surrounding area.

I've read all sorts of stuff online about people loosening screws and "massaging" the screen to try and fix any uniformity issues. Think I should try that? I also read that sometimes these tv's take a while to "adjust" to their new setting....something about temperature, humidity, and the diodes acclimating to a fixed climate. Just wondering if that plays any part. Anyway, any feedback would be much appreciated
post #4183 of 8781
so has anyone tried to clean their screen yet? I cleaned mine last night with a microfiber cloth and i noticed it got worse. now i see clouding on the left side and more light bleeding and the smart dimming doesnt seem to help it enough, so now im thinking of sending it back. i remember reading about that guy that tried to clean his screen and caused severe clouding and light bleeding.
Edited by goldicon12 - 8/30/13 at 9:50am
post #4184 of 8781
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Originally Posted by goldicon12 View Post

so has anyone tried to clean their screen yet? I cleaned mine last night with a microfiber cloth and i noticed it got worse. now i see clouding on the left side and more light bleeding and the smart dimming doesnt seem to help it enough, so now im thinking of sending it back. i remember reading about that guy that tried to clean his screen and caused severe clouding and light bleeding.

Which model do you have?

I have the 60" and I asked our house cleaner yesterday if she wipes the TV screens. She said yes (ouch!), so I told her not to do that, but that means that my Vizio has had it's screen wiped about 5-6 times already. I haven't noticed any problems so far...knock on wood.
post #4185 of 8781
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Originally Posted by goldicon12 View Post

so has anyone tried to clean their screen yet? I cleaned mine last night with a microfiber cloth and i noticed it got worse. now i see clouding on the left side and more light bleeding and the smart dimming doesnt seem to help it enough, so now im thinking of sending it back. i remember reading about that guy that tried to clean his screen and caused severe clouding and light bleeding.

I don't get how this happens. How dirty can your screen possibly be at this point ? LCD's aren't dust magnets like the old CRT's used to be. Do you have a kid that thinks your new TV is a giant iPad ?

Anyways, you should be cleaning it when the TV is off and cool (after it's been off for a while),and use a tiny bit of water on your microfiber towel if you're trying to get fingerprints off. You should be applying as little pressure as humanly possible.
post #4186 of 8781
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Originally Posted by DoctorVideo View Post

Which model do you have?

I have the 60" and I asked our house cleaner yesterday if she wipes the TV screens. She said yes (ouch!), so I told her not to do that, but that means that my Vizio has had it's screen wiped about 5-6 times already. I haven't noticed any problems so far...knock on wood.

i have the 70"
post #4187 of 8781
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Originally Posted by RexHarrison View Post

I don't get how this happens. How dirty can your screen possibly be at this point ? LCD's aren't dust magnets like the old CRT's used to be. Do you have a kid that thinks your new TV is a giant iPad ?

Anyways, you should be cleaning it when the TV is off and cool (after it's been off for a while),and use a tiny bit of water on your microfiber towel if you're trying to get fingerprints off. You should be applying as little pressure as humanly possible.

well when we were taking it out of the box we had gotten fingerprints all over the sides of the screen and i noticed a huge palm print on the right side so i decided to go ahead and clean it last night i use iklear microfiber cloth. and no i didnt let it cool down i forgot.
post #4188 of 8781
I literally just cleaned mine like 30 minutes ago. I lightly spritzed some water onto the screen and gently cleaned it with a microfiber cloth. My screen looks exactly the same as day one.
post #4189 of 8781
I have a new M701D and clean it with water and dry with a microfiber cloth using as LITTLE pressure as possible. No problems. I've noticed that the corners of the frame get extremely hot after the set has been on awhile. TV guy at Costco said Vizio TVs are known for their heat output. Can this be normal and how might that effect the reliability of the TV over time. Anyone else notice this?
post #4190 of 8781
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Originally Posted by CleCakYngMfd View Post

Hi folks,

I just updated my review of the M401i-A3 and have a question. 


I am familiar with color GAIN, but what is the function of the color OFFSET? 


Thank you. 

Color gain settings help get the color correct in the upper ranges of brightness, around 60% gray to 100% gray. Color Offset is used to get the color correct at the lower gray settings from around 10% to 50%. As you adjust the gain it may affect the offset so you go back and forth until most of the RGB settings line up at D6500K. The graph below should help. I used the above procedure to get the colors to line up for Gain and Offset. The magenta line at the bottom shows how closely the colors line up at each shade of gray. Anything at or below 2 is considered excellent. Mind you not all sets can be calibrated as well as these Vizios. If you poke thru some of the CNET calibrations you will see what I mean.


Ursa







post #4191 of 8781
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Originally Posted by RexHarrison View Post

I don't get how this happens. How dirty can your screen possibly be at this point ? LCD's aren't dust magnets like the old CRT's used to be. Do you have a kid that thinks your new TV is a giant iPad ?

Anyways, you should be cleaning it when the TV is off and cool (after it's been off for a while),and use a tiny bit of water on your microfiber towel if you're trying to get fingerprints off. You should be applying as little pressure as humanly possible.

Yup. This is a delicate and complicated piece of equipment. It should not be cleaned like you are scrubbing dirty floors. Try this little tip, when your set is on, touch the screen with one finger and apply pressure. When you start to see the pixels reacting to your finger, then that's too much pressure. Now you know how much should be applied when cleaning while it's OFF. And if you have kids, train them not to touch the tv. I have a 4yr old and he got it after a few NOs with the old tvs in the house.
post #4192 of 8781
Mind you, I've tried the "massaging method" with success on the 1st day I bought it, as I was in my exchange window. It's not something I recommend to everyone, just saying it worked for me.
post #4193 of 8781
I'm looking forward to watching these on my M701d.

http://www.ondvdreleases.com/new-redbox-releases.html

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I have the M501d-A2R . I have been reading this thread and saw people say game mode forces off smooth motion , but for some reason smooth motion is enabled and set to medium on Game Mode on my tv. Basically I am confused because people speak of options being greyed out and what not but absolutely nothing is greyed out on any of the picture modes on my tv. It is fairly important to me that I understand this as I mostly bought the tv to game on.
post #4195 of 8781
Hey everyone, I have the 70" version of this set, calibrated with ursa's settings. I'm using an HTPC with Total Media Theatre for Blu-ray playback. Everything is perfect in 2D, but in 3D, I'm noticing a TON of ghosting.

Specific example include a shot In Prometheus, when the Forerunner drops his cup over the waterfall, I see three, almost completely separate, cups. In the same movie, the distant mountains are split into two nearly separate images. Foreground stuff looks great, but the further you look into the background, the more the image falls apart.

i'm wondering if this is a fault of the set, the HTPC, or a combination of both? Do I need to return this panel? Like I said, 2D is fine, but we like the 3D and want it to work as well.

Any info would be appreciated. Anyone else experiencing this?
Edited by Boscorooty - 8/31/13 at 6:09am
post #4196 of 8781
@duox I believe it was mentioned earlier in the thread that while smooth motion is NOT grayed out in game mode, adjusting it still has no effect and it is in fact disabled.
post #4197 of 8781
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Originally Posted by DuoX View Post

I have the M501d-A2R . I have been reading this thread and saw people say game mode forces off smooth motion , but for some reason smooth motion is enabled and set to medium on Game Mode on my tv. Basically I am confused because people speak of options being greyed out and what not but absolutely nothing is greyed out on any of the picture modes on my tv. It is fairly important to me that I understand this as I mostly bought the tv to game on.

I have mine set on game mode and SM is set on medium also. As I use it as my main settings for all viewing, it does not seem to have a major effect that typical soap opera effects have. I set it that way so I don't have to switch the settings back and forth between movie, tv, gaming , and sports. Found it to be a middle ground between all my content. You can only tweak this so many times that you will just waste a part of your life. Find the settings your comfortable with and move on.
post #4198 of 8781
I have mine in game mode for all content as well. Picture looks good to me and game mode seems to be the only one that doesn't give me SOE regardless of smooth motion settings.
post #4199 of 8781
I definitely need a 3d movie to check this out. Any recommendations as to where I should start. Like a great movie that's worth buying I don't mean Avatar either. Although I think it would probably be the most common baseline movie to start with. Something worthy of a collector's library as in storyline and memorable; not just because of the effects. Plus, I would like my kids to watch it one day and appreciate the film itself.
post #4200 of 8781
Life of Pi has excellent 3D and can be pretty thought-provoking. If you're looking for something more fun, Tangled is great in 3D.
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