The wife and I recently moved to TX and left our previous front projection system (1080p Sanyo XV2000 w/ 100" Favi screen we loved watching for ~7 years) in the house we're selling in Milwaukee. The house we're closing on in 3 weeks here in Houston isn't very suitable for a FP/screen, so we're in the market for our first big "flat screen" TV. Had planned on staying with FP because of the huge, film-like picture that's easily doable for ~$2k but the price, size, PQ, brightness and comparitively easy set-up of current LCD/LEDs has drawn me in. Been using 90-100" front projection for the past 11 years so this is quite a jump!
Our watching consists of ~70% HD TV (nature, cooking shows, travel and F1 racing), ~10% youtube, ~10% Blu-Ray, 10% streaming on-demand HD. A little 3D, hopefully more as new ones are released.
Went into BB last night to check out the "E" series Vizios, but was immediately drawn to the PQ of the newer M series 65" they had on the wall next to it. Of course BB doesn't do any tweaking of the settings, and the salesman claimed they were all being fed the same signal over "coax", but color (brightness, "lifelikeness", shadow detail etc) and edge resolution (when there is type on the screen I always get close and see how smooth and clear the edges are) looked significantly better on the M than the E, as well as a nearby Samsung. The "M" also had the least "macro blocking" of large areas of near constant color, if that's the right term, showing a smooth gradient with little to no large jumps in tone that really bother me. Maybe it was the signal, but the E was quite poor in this regard.
Last night I read probably 100 pages of the 150 in this thread, and greatly appreciate all of the useful info shared by all.
I've narrowed the size down to 60, 65, or 70". We'll be sitting ~15" from the TV in a largish, open but fairly well light-controlled living room.
Here are a couple photos of the living room and the previous owner's TV. Think it's 40 or 45"er, will confirm. So even a 60" would be a big step up and a 70" might not even fit on that wall (could mount above the rarely-used FP I suppose, which would be a better angle for glare but then would be looking up and mounting would be more of a challenge due to the "nook").
Going to stop by a Costco later today to see what they have (not a member, yet), but in the meantime can anyone please confirm what I believe are the main differences between these sets?
1) 65" has the glossiest screen (60 & 70 have a semi-gloss finish)? Edit: just saw that Falcon confirmed this just a few posts ago :P thanks!
2) the amount of "light bleeding" from the edge-lit LEDs isn't significantly different between the 3. Seems to be more of a chance of getting a "bad" panel, and can try "firm rubbing" of the screen edges with a micro-fiber cloth to somehow "set" it (mentioned by Falcon I think).
3) Other than the 65"ers glossy screen providing more "pop" to the picture, all three use the same processing and panel technology and construction so PQ is equivalent? Would be great to have all three side-by-side with the same signal and good material to test but that's not likely....
4) anyone use a LED-backlit wall mount? If so which one? I backlit the screen on my previous FP system and really liked the soft "halo" effect around the edges of the screen
Price is, of course, a consideration, here's what I've found (each plus ~$50 for a sturdy wall mount.
Costco ($55 membership which I'd need, store ~15 miles from home)
60" $1300 + $94 tax +$100 for +3 yr warranty = $1500
65" $1650 + 129 tax + $20 S&H + $100 = $1900
70" $2100 + $150 tax + $100 = $2350
Amazon (have Prime, returns would be a bigger PITA and more chance of shipping damage?)
60" $1400 + $120 for 4 yr warranty = $1520
65" $1650 + $170 = $1820
70" $2200 + $300 = $2500
Thanks for any input on my 4 questions above!!!
KurtEdited by kedelbach - 9/19/13 at 5:16am