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Originally Posted by mj79 View Post

Tha K you for the heads up! I knew about the mirror like panel and people not liking it much., but did not know about the response time.. So what exactly would I notice in the response time from a 8ms to a 4ms, or even a 4ms to a 2ms like some of the more expensive sets are?

I'll go to best buy and hope they have at least the 60" m series on the floor so I can get a good idea of what it looks like. Someone also mentioned the Sony 70" 550a... And if I go with a 70, that and the sharp 757 seems like it would make a good 3 way race as they all seem to be reviewed quite well

Can't help you much on the response time issue as I don't use anything or do any gaming on it that would effect me ... and most others here know more about it and what it effects then I do.

And to touch on your 3-way thoughts.

Read up on the Sony thread and decide if that TV is in the race. For me the single issue with that Sony that I know exists and does not on the Vizio is bad Image Blur / Ghosting/ Halo Effect ..... I saw it SO much in the display and read that it has that problem .... and if you watch sports it will Drive You NUTS.

And the Sharp ... unless something has DRASTICALLY changed in the last year on their 70" model it's a crap TV .... it to has the ghosting / halo effect issue quite bad .... but aside from that killer issue the PQ and overall viewing experience on the Sharp is pure JUNK! I had that TV for a couple days and that was all I could bear to stand.
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Originally Posted by SonofArathorn View Post

Same thing it does to the 2D picture, soap opera effect.

This was posted by Ursa99 a few days ago

"If you want full 240 HZ refresh all the time set your picture to Game and turn smoooth motion on. You won't get a Soap Opera Effect that way."

What this says to me is that, when in Game mode, it doesn't matter if Smooth Motion is on. You won't get SOE. I haven't really had a chance to extensively test this, so I have no idea if it's true or where this information came from. I wish Ursa would elaborate.
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Originally Posted by DoctorVideo View Post

This was posted by Ursa99 a few days ago

"If you want full 240 HZ refresh all the time set your picture to Game and turn smoooth motion on. You won't get a Soap Opera Effect that way."

What this says to me is that, when in Game mode, it doesn't matter if Smooth Motion is on. You won't get SOE. I haven't really had a chance to extensively test this, so I have no idea if it's true or where this information came from. I wish Ursa would elaborate.

Will definitely test when I get home.
post #4564 of 8787
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Originally Posted by ggw2000 View Post

Just a quick note- if you are 15 feet viewing do not go with less than a 70" TV. You will be very disappointed by day 3 that you did not go bigger!
Best of luck in your search- I would go with M701 or Sony 70r550a. Gerry

Yeah I don't want to be the TV-buying equivalent of an ex-girlfriend, who couldn't complain too much about her "add ons" but frequently wished she'd "gone bigger" :P
I'll probably wait until we move in on Oct 11th, and use some of the packing boxes from our bed or whatever as actual size cut-outs in 60 and 70".
No doubt the larger screen makes for a better viewing experience (all else being equal), however I'm a bit leary of having SUCH a huge hunk of black TV dominating the living room when it's off. At least with a projector we could retract the screen but even down it was white so not so jarring.
Also, I'm fairly certain the 70"er would need to go over the fireplace (which is really the best place for it visually, and also to place my ~3.5' tall Tannoy main speakers) and I need to sit on our couch and see if the 'upwards' viewing angle will be annoying.
Thanks for the input Gerry!
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Originally Posted by Purpleclad View Post

I think considering the amount of light that you will get in that room, I would probably stay away from the 65" simply do to the mirror like screen. Daytime viewing might be a pain unless you are planning on putting up some blinds/ curtains. In my opinion, if the wall is big enough, I would go with the 70". I had a 60" Samsung in a room maybe a little bigger, and went with the 70" M, and the size difference was VERY noticeable. After a week, I traded it out for the 80" monster, the old 60" Sammy now looks like a toy. Best of luck.
Thanks Purple.
It's going to come down to where it fits, and how much it dominates the room since the living room is the most central part of the house, and I'm not sure how it'll feel to have a MASSIVE (70"+) TV on the wall, as opposed to just a BIG (60") one.
Luckily the cost difference isn't a deal killer; I budgeted ~$2200 on a new FP and screen, plus I'm lucky to have a wife who said "I don't need a fancy washer and dryer, let's get a basic pair for $700 and we'll use the extra cash for a bigger TV!"

Appreciate the feedback guys! I'll post up pics in a few weeks when we have our own furniture in the house and knock around with some cardboard "testers".
cheers
post #4565 of 8787
Thanks again for the info guys, and for Falcon bringing me up to speed a bit more..

So I just went to best buy and they had the 60" m series out there next to a few Samsung, an insignia, and a sharp. If they are all on " out of box settings" I was amazed! It looked much better, sharper and cleaner than the 55" Samsung 6400 it was next to, and even imo had a better picture the the 60" Samsung 7100 which really surprised me. The Samsung 7100 was Calibrated playing a Blu-ray demo disc and the m601 was on the wall mass connected with 50 other sets and the Vizio looked just as good. I was really impressed


Now since I didn't explain my situation much here goes

13' away on the love seat
12' away on the couch

Will be used with directv hd, ps4, Blu-ray

I watch a lot of football and hockey, and I'm sure will be gamed on a lot with the ps4.. My room is pretty well lit with natural light as there are 3 windows in the room, but all have blinds and curtains as well, ( actually debating blackout shades for the really bright days)

And as for size.. I currently have a nearly 5 year old Samsung ln52a750, and am really at a halt, due to the fact I dunno if the extra $1000 for 10" is worth it.. Regardless the 60 would definitely be a nice size upgrade, but at best buy today, I just was amazed at the size of the 70..

What's weird is when you look at TVs in the store it's hard to know how big they really are until you get them home.. Heck, my 32" E series Vizio looked tiny at target, but in my bedroom 6 feet away it is actually pretty big lol

So what do you guys think? And thanks again for all your help!
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Originally Posted by DoctorVideo View Post

This was posted by Ursa99 a few days ago

"If you want full 240 HZ refresh all the time set your picture to Game and turn smoooth motion on. You won't get a Soap Opera Effect that way."

What this says to me is that, when in Game mode, it doesn't matter if Smooth Motion is on. You won't get SOE. I haven't really had a chance to extensively test this, so I have no idea if it's true or where this information came from. I wish Ursa would elaborate.

Bingo! For whatever reason game mode does indeed eliminate the SOE.
Happiness ensues, time to really break this bad boy in!
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Did you notice whether Smooth Motion was having any effect?
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It does not appear to have any effect. Still can't turn it "off" but when switching between game mode and the other settings it's quite apparent that game mode is disabling it.
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Originally Posted by DoctorVideo View Post

This was posted by Ursa99 a few days ago

"If you want full 240 HZ refresh all the time set your picture to Game and turn smoooth motion on. You won't get a Soap Opera Effect that way."

What this says to me is that, when in Game mode, it doesn't matter if Smooth Motion is on. You won't get SOE. I haven't really had a chance to extensively test this, so I have no idea if it's true or where this information came from. I wish Ursa would elaborate.
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Originally Posted by SonofArathorn View Post

Bingo! For whatever reason game mode does indeed eliminate the SOE.
Happiness ensues, time to really break this bad boy in!

I believe the reason is 3D needs a 240hz refresh rate to work properly, because it is producing two 120hz images. "Game" mode disables the Smooth Motion "Motion Estimation/Motion Compensation" (from the manual) processing, but apparently still raises the panel's refresh rate from 120hz to 240hz.

I've been in game mode since I saw Ursa's post the other night and I'm astounded. The PQ has gone from excellent to amazing. Several times during the Madagascar program on Animal Planet the other night I looked over at the TV from my computer and my jaw dropped because it was so freaking beautiful. I'm not sure why it would be that much better but apparently "game" mode is the special awesome sauce.
post #4570 of 8787
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Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post

I've had both the 70" E-Series and 70" M-Series .... Simple Answer ....

YES, it is worth the extra cost !!!

Even if 3D is no biggie the picture quality, clarity, colors and everything about it is Far better then what the E-Series line-up has to offer.

But that being said the E-Series Vizio was still a stellar looking TV with great PQ and I was satisfied with it till the M-Series came out ... of course I wanted a better quality panel and unlike yourself 3D is is cool to me and it looks stunning on this TV.

If you want very nice good quality TV then the E is just fine ... if you want superior picture with better clarity and colors then the M is the way to go an IMHO VERY worth the extra cost (and trust me you say 3D is nothing you care for .. I was kinda thinking I may not either and my wife could give 2 $h!ts about it ... I love it and she wants to watch any movie that is is in 3D over the regular version now ... and that says something cause she is the type who can normally care less).

The only thing I liked about the E series over the M series is the E has less light bleed and the screen was a little more matte and not as glossy (the m-series is kinda a semi-gloss screen ... not bad at all but you can see reflections a lot more then you can in the E) .... but as we all know the gloss adds to the PQ, clarity and colors ... so the M-series is nice in between perfect combo of semi-gloss for the PQ addition but not like a gloss plasma (or the 65" version of the M cause that is Crazy gloss) would be.

If you have the money to spare ... For Sure go with the M .... if not you still will be satisfied with the E for the price!

Just pulled the trigger on the M. Thanks to all for their feedback, I'll let you all know how it goes after Amazon delivers it this Tuesday. biggrin.gif
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I've never ordered anything from Costco as we don't have one nearby. I see Costco has it for $2099, but I'm guessing you pay sales tax? And most of them (amazon, best buy etc) are m701d-a3r, which comes with8 pairs of glasses, while Costco has the m701-a3, with 4 pairs... What's that all about?
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Best Buy price matched and gave me the set with 8 pairs for the Costco price, score!
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What's the difference in the 2 sets? The a3 vs the a3r
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Originally Posted by mj79 View Post

What's the difference in the 2 sets? The a3 vs the a3r

R has 8 pairs of 3d glasses, non-R has 4 pairs. Otherwise the same.
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Great thanks guys. I wanna pull the trigger on the 70, but not drown the bank account right away, so I'm gonna see if i can get a card or financing thru amazon or best buy.. Bb will price match Costco, will amazon?
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For the guy debating on whether to get the 70" or the 60"... go with the 70". I sit about 11 feet away from mine and it's stunning. Especially for 3D where immersion is so important, you'll be glad you got the bigger one.
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Originally Posted by DoctorVideo View Post

This was posted by Ursa99 a few days ago

"If you want full 240 HZ refresh all the time set your picture to Game and turn smoooth motion on. You won't get a Soap Opera Effect that way."

What this says to me is that, when in Game mode, it doesn't matter if Smooth Motion is on. You won't get SOE. I haven't really had a chance to extensively test this, so I have no idea if it's true or where this information came from. I wish Ursa would elaborate.


Yes this is True for a Few Reasons.

#1. Changing Picture Modes takes a half sec and all it does is change the colors and brightness etc etc and You can't GAME on any setting except GAME MODE because the Input Lag is too much

#2. When Switching Into GAME Setting the screen actually goes Black as If a deeper setting is being changed

#3. Its True you can set your TV to GAME and Get 240Hz with out the SOE, You can even set your TV to GAME and High Smooth Motion, I find the lag is still Low at 30ms or less and Everything Looks Silky smooth

Mine Arrived Today It has some Minor CLOUDING which I can live with, NO Dead pixels I can see. The Black Levels are Nice enough, My question is How Do I Update the Firmware ??
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Originally Posted by SonofArathorn View Post

For the guy debating on whether to get the 70" or the 60"... go with the 70". I sit about 11 feet away from mine and it's stunning. Especially for 3D where immersion is so important, you'll be glad you got the bigger one.

lol, that was me smile.gif

I just decided to go with the 70... yea 60" would look nice for a while , coming from a 52, but with BR and 1080 really taking advantage of the larger sets, it does make sense.. Also gaming would be a blast too..

Just wondering tho.. Its a toss up between amazon, costco and BB... Im not sure if amazon will PM costco, but I know BB will.. And also what are your thoughts on the extended warranties , and who has the best? thanks
post #4579 of 8787
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Originally Posted by mj79 View Post

What's the difference in the 2 sets? The a3 vs the a3r

One is for every electronics company like BB, Frys, Etc. ..... the other is for warehouse big box places only like Costco, Sams, Etc.

They just have 4 less glasses ... and you normally see a price difference of at-least $100 as compared to any other electronics store.

Totally worth it as you can buy another pair of 4 on eBay or even Amazon for like 30 bucks ... and they are way better then the ones that come with the TV (the nose section is very uncomfortable as its all plastic and kinda cuts into the bridge of you nose ... i fixed this by adding my own little nose piece pads to the outside of the plastic to make them more comfortable when sitting on the bridge of my nose for 2+ hours)

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Originally Posted by mj79 View Post

Great thanks guys. I wanna pull the trigger on the 70, but not drown the bank account right away, so I'm gonna see if i can get a card or financing thru amazon or best buy.. Bb will price match Costco, will amazon?

Price matching is not the norm for most places ... mainly due to the fact the models are not the same ... but some have done it .... all depends on how good of the mood the guy you talk to that is in.

Also keep in mind Costco has a FAR superior return policy and warranty then ANY other place ... I would never buy a TV from anywhere else EVER then from Costco (even Sams sucks ... but thats basically Walmart so what do you expect)

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Originally Posted by mj79 View Post

lol, that was me smile.gif

I just decided to go with the 70... yea 60" would look nice for a while , coming from a 52, but with BR and 1080 really taking advantage of the larger sets, it does make sense.. Also gaming would be a blast too..

Just wondering tho.. Its a toss up between amazon, costco and BB... Im not sure if amazon will PM costco, but I know BB will.. And also what are your thoughts on the extended warranties , and who has the best? thanks

Good choice on the 70" ..... the 60" is still just to small, being 12/13' away the 70" will be perfect .... I am about 9/10' away and I Love It .... I almost want to mount a 80' on the wall and have it sit 12' away .... but 65/70" for 10/12' of viewing distance is what is recommended from most places and online sources.

Now to answer your questions of where to buy I think I nailed most of the that above. Costco is the Only palce to buy a TV IMHO .... Top Notch customer service, far better return policy in case you have an issue early on, warranty is UNBEATABLE ANYWHERE .... 2 years for "Free" (no other place does this ... you pay into the hundreds for just 2/3 years of warranty at other places) plus you can buy an extended warranty from Costco that is via Squaretrade for years 3.4.and 5 for $100 extra ..... The price of the TV which is cheaper then anywhere else plus 100 bucks you are set for 5 more years and never have to worry about a thing.

Amazon may a good option for you if you don't have to pay taxes (here in CA. we pay taxes on all Amazon.com orders) ... so saving tax may make it not so bad ..... but to answer your question about price matching Amazon will not price match Costco (for one thing it's a different model # so that is a done deal there, plus they carry 8 glasses to the others 4 and they will say thats what constitutes the difference).
You may make it happen at BB but I myself would NEVER buy something like this from them ... just cause it's BB and they are horrible and also for the reason I stated above.

FYI if you decide to go anywhere else but Costco to buy your TV .... you can STILL buy the years 3/4/5 warranty from them .... if you are a member you can buy the waranty for any TV purchase from any other authorized dealer and apply the Costco/Squaretrade warranty to that TV ... so even if you are not a member it's only $55 for membership and $100 for warranty .... Still WAY cheaper then anywhere else. Keep in mind though years and 1 will be manufacturer and year 2 your won your own I thinkas the ST warranty is for years 3,4 and 5.

And I saw you talking about financing .... if I am correct if you purchase with a AMEX card at Costco (thats the only CC they take) you automatically get an extra year on your warranty ... which if it applies to any year would be 6 years total (or it will cover year 3 if you decide to not get the Ext. warranty and just buy the TV .... if thats the case getting 3 years warranty for basically free is superb) .... they have Costco AMEX cards you can apply for and get your financing that way possibly .... just a thought.

Overall the answer is .... Buy the 70" from Costco to get the all around best price anywhere and pay 100 bucks to be covered for 5 years!!! DONE

Hope this info helped.
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Originally Posted by hipcanuck View Post

Just pulled the trigger on the M. Thanks to all for their feedback, I'll let you all know how it goes after Amazon delivers it this Tuesday. biggrin.gif

Glad I could help! biggrin.gif
post #4581 of 8787
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Originally Posted by SonofArathorn View Post

Bingo! For whatever reason game mode does indeed eliminate the SOE.
Happiness ensues, time to really break this bad boy in!

Do we know if it disables smooth motion all together while in 3D mode?

I know it still shows it's on and set to Medium but does it disable that function when the primary setting is "Game"?

Also why or why not would we want this to be disabled while in 3D mode?
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Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post

One is for every electronics company like BB, Frys, Etc. ..... the other is for warehouse big box places only like Costco, Sams, Etc.

They just have 4 less glasses ... and you normally see a price difference of at-least $100 as compared to any other electronics store.

Totally worth it as you can buy another pair of 4 on eBay or even Amazon for like 30 bucks ... and they are way better then the ones that come with the TV (the nose section is very uncomfortable as its all plastic and kinda cuts into the bridge of you nose ... i fixed this by adding my own little nose piece pads to the outside of the plastic to make them more comfortable when sitting on the bridge of my nose for 2+ hours)
Price matching is not the norm for most places ... mainly due to the fact the models are not the same ... but some have done it .... all depends on how good of the mood the guy you talk to that is in.

Also keep in mind Costco has a FAR superior return policy and warranty then ANY other place ... I would never buy a TV from anywhere else EVER then from Costco (even Sams sucks ... but thats basically Walmart so what do you expect)
Good choice on the 70" ..... the 60" is still just to small, being 12/13' away the 70" will be perfect .... I am about 9/10' away and I Love It .... I almost want to mount a 80' on the wall and have it sit 12' away .... but 65/70" for 10/12' of viewing distance is what is recommended from most places and online sources.

Now to answer your questions of where to buy I think I nailed most of the that above. Costco is the Only palce to buy a TV IMHO .... Top Notch customer service, far better return policy in case you have an issue early on, warranty is UNBEATABLE ANYWHERE .... 2 years for "Free" (no other place does this ... you pay into the hundreds for just 2/3 years of warranty at other places) plus you can buy an extended warranty from Costco that is via Squaretrade for years 3.4.and 5 for $100 extra ..... The price of the TV which is cheaper then anywhere else plus 100 bucks you are set for 5 more years and never have to worry about a thing.

Amazon may a good option for you if you don't have to pay taxes (here in CA. we pay taxes on all Amazon.com orders) ... so saving tax may make it not so bad ..... but to answer your question about price matching Amazon will not price match Costco (for one thing it's a different model # so that is a done deal there, plus they carry 8 glasses to the others 4 and they will say thats what constitutes the difference).
You may make it happen at BB but I myself would NEVER buy something like this from them ... just cause it's BB and they are horrible and also for the reason I stated above.

FYI if you decide to go anywhere else but Costco to buy your TV .... you can STILL buy the years 3/4/5 warranty from them .... if you are a member you can buy the waranty for any TV purchase from any other authorized dealer and apply the Costco/Squaretrade warranty to that TV ... so even if you are not a member it's only $55 for membership and $100 for warranty .... Still WAY cheaper then anywhere else. Keep in mind though years and 1 will be manufacturer and year 2 your won your own I thinkas the ST warranty is for years 3,4 and 5.

And I saw you talking about financing .... if I am correct if you purchase with a AMEX card at Costco (thats the only CC they take) you automatically get an extra year on your warranty ... which if it applies to any year would be 6 years total (or it will cover year 3 if you decide to not get the Ext. warranty and just buy the TV .... if thats the case getting 3 years warranty for basically free is superb) .... they have Costco AMEX cards you can apply for and get your financing that way possibly .... just a thought.

Overall the answer is .... Buy the 70" from Costco to get the all around best price anywhere and pay 100 bucks to be covered for 5 years!!! DONE

Hope this info helped.


Wow... thank you for taking the time to answer all of my questions!!

I called costco, ( the closest one is 2 hours away form me ) but Im guessing if I order online, they will just ship it to me, like any other retailer? Anso , I did get a little confused when he was speed talking about the membership and credit cards , but the way I understood was...

There are 2 cards one for $55 and one for $110.. The one for 110 is the one you earn points and cash back on, and the other is just like a Sams Club card that makes you a member so you can walk into the store.. Also He said that for non members , there is a $35 non member fee for orders placed, and that it would just be better to get the 1 year membership for $55, which does make sense ..

Then came the AMEX credit card... I dont even want to go there , as I defaulted on a Credit card last year when I was laid off from work... Not only would I not get it, I dont even want a soft credit pull, until I need something important. SO with BB out, Its down to Amazon or Costco, Amazon has the square trade and smart guard plans, and as long as I can get at least 4 years of warranty Ill be OK, Ill have to look on costcos site, because I know a 5 year Square trade, or smart guard plan is around $300.. So what is the best way to get the best warranty from costco? Do you have to apply for the AMEX card, or are they just extremely cheap on the square trade plans?

So

Bottom line

If I go to costco, ( or order online ) the m701,to pay in cash/credit card, and want 5 total years of warranty without getting a card, because I know it wont happen , what do I do
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Question anyone notice around the Edge of the LCD screen on the 50 inch and 55 inch M series is the Panel loose or not snugly attached ?
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Oh wow.. I guess it really pays to buy the $55 membership, or at least find someone who has one.. $35 for shipping, plus a $115, non member fee..
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but the added 2nd year warranty from costco, and the $100 price tag on 3 additional years you just cant beat...
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Originally Posted by mj79 View Post

Wow... thank you for taking the time to answer all of my questions!!

I called costco, ( the closest one is 2 hours away form me ) but Im guessing if I order online, they will just ship it to me, like any other retailer? Anso , I did get a little confused when he was speed talking about the membership and credit cards , but the way I understood was...

There are 2 cards one for $55 and one for $110.. The one for 110 is the one you earn points and cash back on, and the other is just like a Sams Club card that makes you a member so you can walk into the store.. Also He said that for non members , there is a $35 non member fee for orders placed, and that it would just be better to get the 1 year membership for $55, which does make sense ..

Then came the AMEX credit card... I dont even want to go there , as I defaulted on a Credit card last year when I was laid off from work... Not only would I not get it, I dont even want a soft credit pull, until I need something important. SO with BB out, Its down to Amazon or Costco, Amazon has the square trade and smart guard plans, and as long as I can get at least 4 years of warranty Ill be OK, Ill have to look on costcos site, because I know a 5 year Square trade, or smart guard plan is around $300.. So what is the best way to get the best warranty from costco? Do you have to apply for the AMEX card, or are they just extremely cheap on the square trade plans?

So

Bottom line

If I go to costco, ( or order online ) the m701,to pay in cash/credit card, and want 5 total years of warranty without getting a card, because I know it wont happen , what do I do

Ya the $55 is a regular membership so you can just buy stuff .... the $110 is executive and you receive cash back .... you will basically get your money back that you spend on the executive membership, but that money does not come back in your hands till the end of your one year membership .... so you spend the 110 now and get the difference back next year .... or you just spend the 55 and not worry about it. Considering you don't have a local costco the executive membership is kinda pointless, it will just be more money out of your pocket now and not se the return for a year.
One thing that I am not 100% sure on is if you need warranty service via Costco in the first 2 years they cover you need to be a member .... but if that is the case and after a year your membership is over and 1-1/2 years form now you have an issue just bite the bullet and renew so your covered. but for squaretrade thing you are good since thats all through them and has nothing to do with Costco at that point in time.

And your last question about buying the tv and extended warranty .... the squaretrade warranty is just a warranty if you are a member ... That's It !!! You can literally buy a TV from anywhere else and still buy the $99 3/4/5 year warranty from Costco and it still covers it ... keep in mind the warranty must be purchased within 60 days from the purchase of the TV.

But you said "and want 5 total years of warranty without getting a card, because I know it wont happen , what do I do" ... you don't have to be approved to be a member ... pay $55 and your a member and you can buy the TV and the $100 warranty and your done!!!

But you must be a member to buy the $55 membership to get this deal.

Anyone who buys the squaretrade extended warranty for their TV is just wasting money .... even if your not a member it Still is only a total of $155 to cover your TV for up to 5 years.

But like I said before that ST warranty if for years 3, 4 and 5 .... If you buy a TV anywhere else and use that warranty year 2 is kinda gone cause you only get one year manufacturer and then thats it .... I am not 100% sure that is the case but if indeed the ST deal is for just year 3/4/5 then unless you buy form Costco year two has no warranty. But really there is no reason to not buy from Costco unless they don;t carry the TV you want to purchase.

Here's you plan of attack .... pay $55 for membership, buy the TV and pay $100 for warranty .... DONE

The TV with a full 5 years at the current sale price should only cost you about $2,450 (TV=2,300 or so / Warranty=100 / Membership=55)

And yes all this can be done online and they will ship it directly to your living room!
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YouTube works ok for me.....when it works. Oftentimes, when I select the YouTube App, the TV crashes, and I have to unplug the set and plug it back in to get it working again.

M601

 

Crashes.  Wow.   I have not seen that.   I have Firmware 1.8.12 and whatever version number of YouTube's latest app release (I will have to check next time and see). 

 

Earlier this summer, the YTA would grab the highest available video resolution and play it no matter if it pauses/buffers many times, such as with 1080p videos.  Now, they changed it.  It auto-drops down to a lower resolution.   I have what is advertised as a 20mbps download connection.  That is the burst mode for about the first 20-to-30 seconds or so.  It is really anywhere from 5 to 9mpbs after burst.  What I want to do is get another modem with 'Channel Bonding' that will allow for faster DL speed per the same connection rate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Ya the $55 is a regular membership so you can just buy stuff .... the $110 is executive and you receive cash back .... you will basically get your money back that you spend on the executive membership, but that money does not come back in your hands till the end of your one year membership .... so you spend the 110 now and get the difference back next year .... or you just spend the 55 and not worry about it. Considering you don't have a local costco the executive membership is kinda pointless, it will just be more money out of your pocket now and not se the return for a year.
One thing that I am not 100% sure on is if you need warranty service via Costco in the first 2 years they cover you need to be a member .... but if that is the case and after a year your membership is over and 1-1/2 years form now you have an issue just bite the bullet and renew so your covered. but for squaretrade thing you are good since thats all through them and has nothing to do with Costco at that point in time.

And your last question about buying the tv and extended warranty .... the squaretrade warranty is just a warranty if you are a member ... That's It !!! You can literally buy a TV from anywhere else and still buy the $99 3/4/5 year warranty from Costco and it still covers it ... keep in mind the warranty must be purchased within 60 days from the purchase of the TV.

But you said "and want 5 total years of warranty without getting a card, because I know it wont happen , what do I do" ... you don't have to be approved to be a member ... pay $55 and your a member and you can buy the TV and the $100 warranty and your done!!!

But you must be a member to buy the $55 membership to get this deal.

Anyone who buys the squaretrade extended warranty for their TV is just wasting money .... even if your not a member it Still is only a total of $155 to cover your TV for up to 5 years.

But like I said before that ST warranty if for years 3, 4 and 5 .... If you buy a TV anywhere else and use that warranty year 2 is kinda gone cause you only get one year manufacturer and then thats it .... I am not 100% sure that is the case but if indeed the ST deal is for just year 3/4/5 then unless you buy form Costco year two has no warranty. But really there is no reason to not buy from Costco unless they don;t carry the TV you want to purchase.Here's you plan of attack .... pay $55 for membership, buy the TV and pay $100 for warranty .... DONE

The TV with a full 5 years at the current sale price should only cost you about $2,450 (TV=2,300 or so / Warranty=100 / Membership=55)

And yes all this can be done online and they will ship it directly to your living room!


Square trade coverage is a form of extended warranty - meaning it extends the coverage past the date of the manufacturers warranty. The $99 ST deal for Costco members is for 3 years. In the case of a ST warranty bought at Costco for a TV bought at Costco, the extension equates to 5 years as Costco picks up year 2. IF said TV and warranty bought at Costco are paid for with an Amex card, Amex adds another year of coverage to total 6 years.

In the case of a TV bought at an authorized dealer other than Costco, the $99 ST warranty bought from Costco also extends it 3 years to total 4 years coverage. There is no interuption in coverage.

Summary:

TV bought from Costco + ST warranty bought from Costco = 5 years coverage for $99

TV bought elsewhere + ST warranty bought from Costco = 4 years coverage for $99 ($155 if you need to buy a Costco membership)



Hope this helps!
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Thanks for clarifying that ... I kinda assumed that would be the case but really wasn't sure.

So basically there us ZERO reason not to buy the Costco ST warranty no matter where you buy your tv.

Many are not fans of those kind of warranties cause most believe if issues arise on a tv it will be well before two years is up and with Costcos built in free two years many don't bother with anything extended.

Anyway hope all my info helped and thanks Peter fir getting that cleared up.
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Do we know if it disables smooth motion all together while in 3D mode?

I know it still shows it's on and set to Medium but does it disable that function when the primary setting is "Game"?

Also why or why not would we want this to be disabled while in 3D mode?

It certainly appears to disable it all together while in game mode, I did some extensive testing with the same movies I used the night before where I was getting the SOE and when in "game" mode it did not rear it's head.

The reason we would want it disabled is if we do not like the SOE, the way it makes everything look unnatural and fake. I was hoping it would mimic the HFR used in The Hobbit but I was disappointed with the outcome, it was a far cry from such.
With the tv in "game" mode and using the settings Ursa posted it looks phenomenal in 2D and 3D. I am going to have to adjust brightness and color a bit for 3D to counteract the dimming caused by the glasses to get it perfect and as soon as I've done so I'll post my settings.
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