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post #4681 of 8809
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Originally Posted by DoctorVideo View Post


YouTube works ok for me.....when it works. Oftentimes, when I select the YouTube App, the TV crashes, and I have to unplug the set and plug it back in to get it working again.

M601

 

Originally Posted by CleCakYngMfd View Post
 

 

Crashes.  Wow.   I have not seen that.   I have Firmware 1.8.12 and whatever version number of YouTube's latest app release (I will have to check next time and see). 

 

Earlier this summer, the YTA would grab the highest available video resolution and play it no matter if it pauses/buffers many times, such as with 1080p videos.  Now, they changed it.  It auto-drops down to a lower resolution.   I have what is advertised as a 20mbps download connection.  That is the burst mode for about the first 20-to-30 seconds or so.  It is really anywhere from 5 to 9mpbs after burst.  What I want to do is get another modem with 'Channel Bonding' that will allow for faster DL speed per the same connection rate.

 

 

 

Oh, wait.  I take that back.  Sort of.   While I have not seen a crash with starting up YouTube, it has stalled about 2 other times while playing a video, including just the other day after my previous post.  It says, "Loading".   I wait.  Wait.  Wait.  Long enough.  "Exit".  Nothing.  I then Power Off then back on. 

Today, on 3 different videos I selected, the video would not play.  It just auto-exited back to TV mode.

 

This is what I see in the "Connected' Store:

 

1.7.94

 

 

System Software:

YaHoo Connected TV Platform   6.5.6x25
YaHoo Application Framework   1.7.50
Vendor Package                1.70.80.E
Launcher Bootstrap            1.7.6
Multi Media                   1.0.3.5
Tv Settings                   1.2.13.6
Profiles                      1.7.13
YaHoo TV                      1.7.29
Connected TV Store            1.7.94
App Container                 1.7.142

Apps: 

Youtube                       1.0.2.3


post #4682 of 8809
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Originally Posted by falconman515 View Post

Just get the 70" ... you will be happy you did!

Plus weight ratings are about as conservative as it gets ... hell ladders rate for like 225lbs and you can throw a 400lb man on em for days on end no problem.

and if it's 100lbs rated an extra 4lbs will do Nothing!!! LOL .... you'll be perfectly bro!

Better to get what you will enjoy now and not have to take back a perfectly good TV in 90 days when you know thats what you will do anyway ... just get it now ... the size difference between a 60 and 70" is MASSIVE ... trust me!

An nicer TV constitutes a nicer stand but you do not need that right now ... get the 70" now and Then 90 days from now shop around for a nice new stand .... I got mine for about $200 and it fits the 70" Like A Glove.

Up to you but I think you got all the info you needed .... now it's in you and your pocket books hands. smile.gif (and if your pocket book has the extra money for the 70" you will VERY happy your pocket book made that smart decision when that's what you really want anyway ... never settle if possible)

X2 on that. If I could fit an 80" between my mantle and ceiling it would be there. Go Big or Go Home smile.gif
post #4683 of 8809
Lol. Well I guess I'm going home. With a 60. For now.. As of now I have NO. TV so the60 is probably a little bigger than that ;-)
post #4684 of 8809
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Originally Posted by mj79 View Post

Okok. I'm not as worried about the stand. But the extra 900 I could be paying off bills with, as I have a ton going out this month and next... To me it's not a big deal, if I keep the TV 60-90 days. Its like $20 bucks in gas for me to drive down there again to return it for the 70,

And if I decide to go that route, what do they do about the square trade warranty? Does it just transfer over, do I lose it? Or will it start over if I got the70


And to be honest, I don't even have an extra 900 to get the 70 anyways.. With the 60, I could go get it tomorrow

OR you could get one of these for $25 and hang that big bitch on the wall where it belongs! biggrin.gif


OR, buy the 60 if thats what you can swing and KEEP IT! Returning it for a bigger one at day 89 when nothing is wrong with it is a total douchebag move...
post #4685 of 8809
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Originally Posted by letterist View Post

For the owners of the 70" who have had this tv for awhile (myself included), would you mind posting your most current configuration settings? Thanks!!!

I’ve had my M701D for just over 2 months now, and these are likely my final picture settings. I’m using Ursa’s RGB numbers which look like good B&W to me with color turned all the way down (factory flat had a greenish tint.) I turned backlight down as low as I wanted to go for a dimly lit room then adjusted brightness, contrast and sharpness using the DVE HD Basics test patterns. The rest is personal preference.

Picture Settings Menu
Picture Mode: Calibrated Dark
Backlight: 40
Brightness: 55
Contrast: 75
Color: 30
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 32

Color Temperature Submenu
Color Temperature: Normal
Red Gain: 148
Green Gain: 117
Blue Gain: 130
Red Offset: 131
Green Offset: 129
Blue Offset: 128

Advanced Picture Submenu
Auto Brightness: Off
Black Detail: Off
Smart dimming: On
Smooth Motion: Low
Reduced Signal Noise: Low
Reduced Block Noise: Low
Film Mode: Auto
post #4686 of 8809
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Originally Posted by PeterNincompoop 


OR, buy the 60 if thats what you can swing and KEEP IT! Returning it for a bigger one at day 89 when nothing is wrong with it is a total douchebag move...

 

Totally agree ! I have returned 5 defective TV's in the past 2 months, and the thought of someone returning a perfectly good TV on the 89th day pisses me off. If you abuse Costco's return policy, you'll ruin it for those that actually need it. Costco has already shortened their return policy because of it, and they'll do it again.

 

Anyways, I returned a 55" Samsung F7050 today because of a dark strip of pixels down the right edge from top to bottom ( aka pencil line ). I then bought a 60" Vizio M. This TV kicks ass ! I went 5" bigger and still saved $400. This is actually my 2nd Vizio M, my first was a 55" which had pencil lines on the left and right edges from top to bottom ( I'm convinced that all 55" have this problem because all 6 displays I've seen in stores have all had them). This 60" has no issues thank god. The PQ surpasses the F7050. 

 

I have a question about USB thumbdrives. How do you access them ? Right after I plug it in, it gives me the prompt to view the contents of the thumbdrive, but once that goes away how do I access it again without unplugging and plugging it back in ?

post #4687 of 8809
Go to the apps, and select the MultiMedia app.
post #4688 of 8809
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Originally Posted by DoctorVideo View Post

Go to the apps, and select the MultiMedia

Thanks I appreciate that.

post #4689 of 8809

.I just bought the 60" M today and I already got a firmware update. Which is pretty amazing considering when I had the 55" M for 12 days about 2 months ago, I never got a firmware push. It's 1.08 something, I'll check it later today.

post #4690 of 8809
Thanks for taking the time to do that Ronh36!!! I'll give your settings a try tonight. Really appreciate it.
post #4691 of 8809
Oh settle down guys. I would never do a return like that! My living room is small and the TV is in a corner. No easy way to mount it.

But seeing as how I'm making a 4 hour round trip, it would be nice efficient could open the box and test it before I take it home to make sure everything works. U think they would do that?
post #4692 of 8809

Rant Alert ! Sorry in advance

 

 

This TV is awesome. It only took 6 tries to find the perfect set ( well close enough to perfect ) but Im happy it was the Vizio M that ended up being the one. It has been a TV buying nightmare the last couple months. The Vizio M was my first choice back about 2 months ago when I initially went TV shopping. While in Best Buy my GF and I checked out the 55" which had the weird edges (pencil lines) I thought maybe they just had a bad display. My GF then points out the similarly priced Samsung F6300, she liked the extra bright picture that really popped. I ended up going with the Samsung against my better judgement, I got it home to find it had 4 dark corners (vignetting). I returned that for a 55" Sony W802a, the super low input lag and the natural looking picture is what sold me on this one. Got it home and it had a dead pixel, and that night noticed that it some extreme clouding and flashlighitng. I returned that for a 55" Samsung F7100, I kept going up in price hoping the quality would be better but I was wrong. This set leaned 2 inches to the left and had a dark spot about 6 pixels wide  and 10 pixels long in the top right corner. I then decided to finally go with my first choice the 55" Vizio M. As soon as I plugged it in I saw the pencil lines on the left and right edges. At this point I was absolutely sick, as was my GF because she was helping me lug these things back and forth to BB. I brought the M back and I went a week and half without a TV because I needed a break from this nightmare. 

 

I then decided I'd give Costco a try, I don't have a membership so I asked my mom to come with me. I bought the 55" Samsung F7050 because I was really impressed with the F7100 besides the lean and the dark spot. I got this one home and immediately noticed a pencil line on the left edge, about 4 pixels wide from top to bottom. I held onto it for about a month and a half, and couldn't live with a $1,700 TV with a noticeable flaw like that. 

 

Finally yesterday I returned it. I said screw the 55" I'm going to try out the 60" because now I feel all 55" are cursed (especially the Vizio M, 8 different ones I've seen had pencil lines). Now I have the 60" M and this thing is nearly perfect. No pencil lines, no dead pixels, no dark spots, no flashligting, a tiny bit of clouding but it goes away completely with Smart Dimming on. The only problem with that is Smart Dimming introduces blooming, but at this point I cannot complain about this set all. It is easily the best TV I've had in terms of PQ and lack of issues. Detail, color, black levels, are all amazing, I'm very happy. I can't believe this TV only costs $1299 with a 2 year warranty at Costco. Awesome !

 

Moral of the story, if you get a TV you're not happy with, keep bringing them back. You shouldn't have to live with a $1,000+ purchase with major flaws. Also, avoid the 55" M if you can and go with the 60" or bigger. 

post #4693 of 8809
ursa99

Have not tried video yet. Have tried Jpg seems to work but for some reason the preview of the picture does not show up. Also is the tv sound suppose to be playing in the background when looking at pictures?.

Thanks LarryC01
post #4694 of 8809
This media player does not seem to stable . Sometime i get TV audio in background sometimes not. Still don't get preview picture. Strange App rolleyes.gif

LarryC01
post #4695 of 8809
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Originally Posted by XboxJuan View Post

Rant Alert ! Sorry in advance


This TV is awesome. It only took 6 tries to find the perfect set ( well close enough to perfect ) but Im happy it was the Vizio M that ended up being the one. It has been a TV buying nightmare the last couple months. The Vizio M was my first choice back about 2 months ago when I initially went TV shopping. While in Best Buy my GF and I checked out the 55" which had the weird edges (pencil lines) I thought maybe they just had a bad display. My GF then points out the similarly priced Samsung F6300, she liked the extra bright picture that really popped. I ended up going with the Samsung against my better judgement, I got it home to find it had 4 dark corners (vignetting). I returned that for a 55" Sony W802a, the super low input lag and the natural looking picture is what sold me on this one. Got it home and it had a dead pixel, and that night noticed that it some extreme clouding and flashlighitng. I returned that for a 55" Samsung F7100, I kept going up in price hoping the quality would be better but I was wrong. This set leaned 2 inches to the left and had a dark spot about 6 pixels wide  and 10 pixels long in the top right corner. I then decided to finally go with my first choice the 55" Vizio M. As soon as I plugged it in I saw the pencil lines on the left and right edges. At this point I was absolutely sick, as was my GF because she was helping me lug these things back and forth to BB. I brought the M back and I went a week and half without a TV because I needed a break from this nightmare. 

I then decided I'd give Costco a try, I don't have a membership so I asked my mom to come with me. I bought the 55" Samsung F7050 because I was really impressed with the F7100 besides the lean and the dark spot. I got this one home and immediately noticed a pencil line on the left edge, about 4 pixels wide from top to bottom. I held onto it for about a month and a half, and couldn't live with a $1,700 TV with a noticeable flaw like that. 

Finally yesterday I returned it. I said screw the 55" I'm going to try out the 60" because now I feel all 55" are cursed (especially the Vizio M, 8 different ones I've seen had pencil lines). Now I have the 60" M and this thing is nearly perfect. No pencil lines, no dead pixels, no dark spots, no flashligting, a tiny bit of clouding but it goes away completely with Smart Dimming on. The only problem with that is Smart Dimming introduces blooming, but at this point I cannot complain about this set all. It is easily the best TV I've had in terms of PQ and lack of issues. Detail, color, black levels, are all amazing, I'm very happy. I can't believe this TV only costs $1299 with a 2 year warranty at Costco. Awesome !

Moral of the story, if you get a TV you're not happy with, keep bringing them back. You shouldn't have to live with a $1,000+ purchase with major flaws. Also, avoid the 55" M if you can and go with the 60" or bigger. 

Man you haven't had the luck of the draw have you? Glad it finally worked out though. I'm just checking this thread out to see how everyone's m's are doing. I was considering one, but ended up with a 60 inch Sharp 857. I guess I'm lucky because out of the box I had 0 issues and I had mine shipped from qvc. I ended up getting the extended warranty through Costco.
post #4696 of 8809
OK, here is what I dont get.... I just picked up the m601, and love it... fits perfect, ,looks better than my 52a750, by a LOT, and ppl keep complaining about minor stupid things like firmware updates, apps, 3d and calibration......

Do you people realize what your getting for the price? Quit your complaining and just use a ps3/xbox/ as your "internet app client"... It amazes me how many people complain about updates, and firmware.. Get it together, realize nobody judges you on your TV, and just realize your "cheap" vizio" tv is a good set.......
post #4697 of 8809
THANK YOU. It's just a TV.
post #4698 of 8809
Okay MJ ... Let's take a deep breath and get back to the topics at hand here.

If you are not happy with discussions here or the replies you have received then there are plenty of other forums out there that may be better suited for you.

Let's not start things here that dilute the forum ... We want open discussion regardless of what the issue may be .... If you don't care for what people are talking about then don't read it.

Let's not have two pages of pissy replies due to this and let's get back to the topic at hand!!!
post #4699 of 8809
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Originally Posted by letterist View Post

For the owners of the 70" who have had this tv for awhile (myself included), would you mind posting your most current configuration settings? Thanks!!!

Here's another setting you can try. I've had my 70 for 3 mths now and really happy with the TV. Calibrated using Disney WOW and AVS-HD. For the Color Temp, I started with Ursa's settings but tweaked it to my own liking.

Picture mode: Standard
Backlight: Auto/70 (first set Auto Brightness to OFF, then set Backlight to 70, then set Auto Brightness back to On). The Backlight setting here appears to control the max it will adjust to under Auto Brightness. I have a fairly bright room during the day.
Brightness: 55
Contrast: 73 (this will show all white levels up to 240)
Color: 37
Tint: -5
Sharpness: 40

Color Temperature: Custom
Red Gain: 148
Green Gain: 117
Blue Gain: 117
Red Offset: 131
Green Offset: 129
Blue Offset: 128

Auto Brightness Control: ON
Black Detail: Off
Smart Dimming: ON
Smooth Motion Effect: Off
Reduce Signal Noise: Off
Reduce Block Noise: Off
Film Mode: Auto
post #4700 of 8809
The Netflix app now supports "SuperHD". Watched a Lost episode last night and it looked incredible.
post #4701 of 8809
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Originally Posted by lotohnz View Post


I believe the reason is 3D needs a 240hz refresh rate to work properly, because it is producing two 120hz images. "Game" mode disables the Smooth Motion "Motion Estimation/Motion Compensation" (from the manual) processing, but apparently still raises the panel's refresh rate from 120hz to 240hz.

I've been in game mode since I saw Ursa's post the other night and I'm astounded. The PQ has gone from excellent to amazing. Several times during the Madagascar program on Animal Planet the other night I looked over at the TV from my computer and my jaw dropped because it was so freaking beautiful. I'm not sure why it would be that much better but apparently "game" mode is the special awesome sauce.

Does this apply to the 50 inch model as well?
post #4702 of 8809
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Originally Posted by lotohnz View Post

The Netflix app now supports "SuperHD". Watched a Lost episode last night and it looked incredible.

In order to get SuperHD, your ISP must subscribe to the consortium. This applies to Netflix 3D as well. We get it on Cox.
post #4703 of 8809
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Originally Posted by DoctorVideo View Post

In order to get SuperHD, your ISP must subscribe to the consortium. This applies to Netflix 3D as well. We get it on Cox.

Actually, as of yesterday Netflix has made available their SuperHD encodes available to any sub who has the bandwidth.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57604873-93/netflix-opens-the-gates-to-super-hd-video-for-all/
post #4704 of 8809
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Originally Posted by mj79 View Post

Oh settle down guys. I would never do a return like that! My living room is small and the TV is in a corner. No easy way to mount it.

But seeing as how I'm making a 4 hour round trip, it would be nice efficient could open the box and test it before I take it home to make sure everything works. U think they would do that?

I seriously doubt it. You're going to open an item that they would have to resell at a lower price should you choose to return it? Sure, you might do return it anyway, but are they going to let you open them all until you find the best one? If a store does this, they're not very smart.
post #4705 of 8809
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Originally Posted by ToonMasterTim View Post

I seriously doubt it. You're going to open an item that they would have to resell at a lower price should you choose to return it? Sure, you might do return it anyway, but are they going to let you open them all until you find the best one? If a store does this, they're not very smart.

I bought it got it home and it was all good. The TV is awesome, ursas calibration is excellent... Thank you for posting that!

Like everyone said, I wish I would have got the 70, but I just couldn't swing the extra $900 frown.gif

It is definitely more screen than my 52, but the physical size is almost identical.. Same height, and an inch wider..

I would return it in a month or so, but like you guys said, that's a douchebag move for a perfectly good TV..

Oh well
post #4706 of 8809
I want to say that I have the M501D-AR2. I LOVE the picture. I had a LG LN5400 47 inch. HATED it. Returned it and picked up the Vizio 50 inch model at Best Buy for 779.00. turned it on and just saw how amazing the picture was. I haven't really run into any problems with the TV, Just trying to calibrate it properly. I've tried Cnet's calibrated settings and perfer them over everything else so far. Going to play with a few more settings tonight.

I saw someone had posted a picture of the light bleed effect coming from the right side of the screen towards the bezzel. I have the same exact issue.. But I only see the light bleed when I turn the TV on.

If i watch Direct TV, (I have the Genie model) I don't see the bleed effect. I've even tried to find it. only seems to show itself when the TV is in standby with the DirecTV off.

Overall I'm happy with my purchase.
post #4707 of 8809
Well guys I feel worried that I got rid of a Flawless 50 inch M series no dead pixels no DSE even no clouding. A little flash lighting only when there was a image in the middle and darkness around it. Its also perfect for gaming.

I'm trying out the Samsung UN50F6300 CNET says it has 1200 lines of moving resolution vs Vizios only have 300 or so.

I really miss my Vizio amazing picture. But the remotes responsiveness is a disaster.
post #4708 of 8809
I honestly have no issues with the remote. But that may be because my old one was so crappy. This one feels much better.

I wonder if they will release that WiFi update in the coming weeks, that should greatly improve it.

Has anyone gotten the "Send to TV" function in youtube to work? I am trying with a Nook HD+ but it doesn't seem to happen. I am able to see my TV listed in the devices, but it times out everytime it tries to do it.

*UPDATE* Just tried using send to TV from my PC. What happens is interesting - the TV is synced and will start to load the video, then the Youtube App on the TV crashes (i.e., closes). Any suggestions on how to address this?
Edited by Padinn - 9/28/13 at 8:57am
post #4709 of 8809
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Originally Posted by Ice Cold View Post

Well guys I feel worried that I got rid of a Flawless 50 inch M series no dead pixels no DSE even no clouding. A little flash lighting only when there was a image in the middle and darkness around it. Its also perfect for gaming.

I'm trying out the Samsung UN50F6300 CNET says it has 1200 lines of moving resolution vs Vizios only have 300 or so.

I really miss my Vizio amazing picture. But the remotes responsiveness is a disaster.

You will be the third person I've seen mention the 1200 vs 300 lines, and will probably be the 3rd to have not seen them side by side, and the 3rd to not notice a difference. If the pq was "amazing" and was "perfect" for gaming, then why give it up?

I am 13 feet away, and while the remote response isn't that great, it still works fine. For me it's not a big deal as the only thing I used the remote for was initial setup, calibration and turning it on. Now sits in my drawer as I use my direct remote for it.

Don't mean to come off as a dick, but I got the 3rd degree because I wanted to return mine for a bigger one, and you are just wanting to return your set for something you probably wouldn't even ever notice, on a set you call amazing and perfect
post #4710 of 8809
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Originally Posted by Matthew1785 View Post

Does this apply to the 50 inch model as well?

I'm pretty sure it applies to any 3D 240hz TV regardless of the size.
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