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post #481 of 8773
Was really considering taking my LG back but think I'm gonna stick with it.
If it doesn't do 2d>3d conversion why is there a need for button. My LG automatically recognizes 3d content and ask if you want to watch. The 3d button on mine is to turn it on and off at will. I love the 2d>3d, I watched the Heat game last night in it and it was awesome.
But that is not my only reason for not switching back to Vizio.
I was a loyal Vizio buyer, I've had 4 tv's and 2 blu ray players. The last TV I bought 3 months ago the 120Hz smooth motion could not be adjusted and when I contacted Vizio about maybe tuning down the SOE it caused they told me to deal with it.
post #482 of 8773
Was really considering taking my LG back but think I'm gonna stick with it.
If it doesn't do 2d>3d conversion why is there a need for button. My LG automatically recognizes 3d content and ask if you want to watch. The 3d button on mine is to turn it on and off at will. I love the 2d>3d, I watched the Heat game last night in it and it was awesome.
But that is not my only reason for not switching back to Vizio.
I was a loyal Vizio buyer, I've had 4 tv's and 2 blu ray players. The last TV I bought 3 months ago the 120Hz smooth motion could not be adjusted and when I contacted Vizio about maybe tuning down the SOE it caused they told me to deal with it.
post #483 of 8773
Was really considering taking my LG back but think I'm gonna stick with it.
If it doesn't do 2d>3d conversion why is there a need for button. My LG automatically recognizes 3d content and ask if you want to watch. The 3d button on mine is to turn it on and off at will. I love the 2d>3d, I watched the Heat game last night in it and it was awesome.
But that is not my only reason for not switching back to Vizio.
I was a loyal Vizio buyer, I've had 4 tv's and 2 blu ray players. The last TV I bought 3 months ago the 120Hz smooth motion could not be adjusted and when I contacted Vizio about maybe tuning down the SOE it caused they told me to deal with it.
post #484 of 8773
Sorry for triple post!
post #485 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

Actually I can say for sure it doesn't because my viewing area is set-up theater style. I have black blinds, and thick curtain panels that are made to block external light sources (The sun) and they are tightly pinned to the window frames. So unless my wife has her reading lamp on there is little to no light in our room. If it were a sun drenched room I would have no need to run a bias light.
Wow! That came across much angrier than I thought it would. I was going for sarcastic informative, but came across dick-ish. Sorry about that. I have tested it in as near as night conditions and can say that if any there is a faint glow from the lower left corner, but actually remedies itself by shifting nearer to the center of the screen. I do have Smart dimming employed as well, doesn't seem to crush blacks as much as the LM7600 did and playing Borderlands 2 which offer very diverse landscape and snow which I had experienced banding and DSE on the LG none seem apparent on the Vizio. I have been looking forward to the M-series since it's announcement at CES 2013 and am floored by how great it performs.
post #486 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

Wow! That came across much angrier than I thought it would. I was going for sarcastic informative, but came across dick-ish. Sorry about that. I have tested it in as near as night conditions and can say that if any there is a faint glow from the lower left corner, but actually remedies itself by shifting nearer to the center of the screen. I do have Smart dimming employed as well, doesn't seem to crush blacks as much as the LM7600 did and playing Borderlands 2 which offer very diverse landscape and snow which I had experienced banding and DSE on the LG none seem apparent on the Vizio. I have been looking forward to the M-series since it's announcement at CES 2013 and am floored by how great it performs.

No worries man. I didn't take it as "Dick-ish." So the faint glow in the bottom left disappears when local dimming is enabled? Any blooming/haloing?
post #487 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

Wow! That came across much angrier than I thought it would. I was going for sarcastic informative, but came across dick-ish. Sorry about that. I have tested it in as near as night conditions and can say that if any there is a faint glow from the lower left corner, but actually remedies itself by shifting nearer to the center of the screen. I do have Smart dimming employed as well, doesn't seem to crush blacks as much as the LM7600 did and playing Borderlands 2 which offer very diverse landscape and snow which I had experienced banding and DSE on the LG none seem apparent on the Vizio. I have been looking forward to the M-series since it's announcement at CES 2013 and am floored by how great it performs.
I have noticed some minor blooming from the smart dimming, but not at the level I have seen on some LED sets.
post #488 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

I have noticed some minor blooming from the smart dimming, but not at the level I have seen on some LED sets.

That's cool. I had the HX950 that had some blooming/haloing bad but mostly on white letters on a black background, (end credits/video games). My main worry with this set is screen uniformity. Glad you like the set.
post #489 of 8773
Here are a few pics with content game and film using Calibrated Dark room with a quick adjustment using WOW disc.
Using WOW disc screen purity to test for uniformity issues (Black Slide)




post #490 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

Here are a few pics with content game and film using Calibrated Dark room with a quick adjustment using WOW disc.
Using WOW disc screen purity to test for uniformity issues (Black Slide)





Looks good.
post #491 of 8773
Dr.Shankenstein, what size is your TV and it does look good.
post #492 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

Here are a few pics with content game and film using Calibrated Dark room with a quick adjustment using WOW disc.
Using WOW disc screen purity to test for uniformity issues (Black Slide)

What's the white colored "blob" on the left side of the screen in these two pics?
post #493 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

What's the white colored "blob" on the left side of the screen in these two pics?

I have a window to the left of the TV, so maybe slight reflection from window A/C.
post #494 of 8773
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Originally Posted by camui78 View Post

Dr.Shankenstein, what size is your TV and it does look good.
The 50" I love it.
post #495 of 8773
Could you take a close up pic of were the screen and bezel meet? Is the screen sunk in or flush with the bezel?
post #496 of 8773
Does anyone know if these are supposed to be on par with the likes of Sony, Samsung, Sharp et al in terms of raw picture quality and reliability?
post #497 of 8773
Can take a picture of the back of the tv so I can see how thin it is. I am going to place mine on the wall.

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post #498 of 8773
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Originally Posted by camui78 View Post

Can take a picture of the back of the tv so I can see how thin it is. I am going to place mine on the wall.

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Here a few pics of frame thickness and overall thickness.
There is a 1/4 inch thick faux brushed (black) metal picture frame around screen itself.


The metal ribbon and screen are flush and measuring 1".


Camera phone isn't agreeing with me today, but here is a side view. At it's thick it measures 1 3/4" at speaker housing.


Hope that helped, sorry for the mess we are packing to move in two weeks.
post #499 of 8773
My one complaint so far... the remote... it's laggy as all get out. I'm constantly having to hit buttons 2 and 3 times to finally get them to register with the TV. I thought I read that this new one was supposed to use the wifi to connect, so line-of-sight wasn't going to be a factor, but it doesn't seem to be the case. Also, as this model is so new, it's not yet in the Logitech database, so pairing to my harmony has yet to be successful... trying to learn it manually was a pain, too, and eventually failed. If anyone has pointers, I'd love to hear them.
post #500 of 8773
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Originally Posted by IntelliVolume View Post

Does anyone know if these are supposed to be on par with the likes of Sony, Samsung, Sharp et al in terms of raw picture quality and reliability?
That will be a subject of debate for years to come. Vizio as whole has made great strides to offer top tier quality at mid-range prices. If you would have asked when I bought my first Vizio from Circuit city in 2006 ( I think?) I would have said probably not, but now I would give it a cautiously optimistic yes.
LG and AmTran ( from Taiwan) formed a partnership in 2008 to develop LED/LCD technologies. AmTran is one of the four firms that make up the technology behind Vizio. It is just my belief that they follow LG's design and innovation trends and Vizio will usually mirror them with some cost cutting measure like no, swivel stands,ISF/THX certification and 2D-3D conversion. What we as consumers get is similar quality electronics at almost 50% the cost, so the value is certainly there. As you can see from the current HT climate companies are beginning to sweat it and you can see them making similar cost cutting measure as well like Sony's 50" w802a at $1499.99. It is to be seen in the next few years and this fall when Vizio releases their 4K displays at a very appealing price (not counting Seiki) then that could very well be the line drawn in the sand.
post #501 of 8773
Thanks for your thoughts and sentiments, Shankenstein...

I am not certain, 100 percent, if I'm quite sold on VIZIO yet, but I will keep them in the back of my mind...
post #502 of 8773
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Originally Posted by IntelliVolume View Post

Thanks for your thoughts and sentiments, Shankenstein...

I am not certain, 100 percent, if I'm quite sold on VIZIO yet, but I will keep them in the back of my mind...

The Sony W802 is similarly priced but I believe the Vizio will be better. Cnet did not like the 802 and from other reviews I've read, it seems pretty bad. Passive 3-D and low price are it's selling points, aside from that I wouldn't touch it.
post #503 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Justin Sullins View Post

The Sony W802 is similarly priced but I believe the Vizio will be better. Cnet did not like the 802 and from other reviews I've read, it seems pretty bad. Passive 3-D and low price are it's selling points, aside from that I wouldn't touch it.

Thanks Justin...

The Sony is what size?
post #504 of 8773
Thanks for the updated pictures. The thickness isn't bad at all.

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post #505 of 8773
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Originally Posted by IntelliVolume View Post

Thanks Justin...

The Sony is what size?

Sony W802A-http://www.amazon.com/Sony-KDL-47W802A-47-Inch-120Hz-Internet/dp/B00AWKBZ0C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1369538023&sr=8-1&keywords=w802a
post #506 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

The 50" I love it.

I see the 50" for $800 at local electronics store. How much did you pay if you don't mind my asking? How is the viewing angle? What picture setting do you have it set on and how's the motion resolution, (judder/stutter)?
post #507 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

Here are a few pics with content game and film using Calibrated Dark room with a quick adjustment using WOW disc.
Using WOW disc screen purity to test for uniformity issues (Black Slide)





dude congrats... the tv looks sick. i absolutely love the design. currently i'm saving up to own a house or apartment lol and hope to have enough by years end, so i can't get this tv as of yet. i'm hoping by the time i can move into my own place i can get the 70 inch version of this gorgeous tv. prices should be lower by then too.
post #508 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Dr.Shankenstein View Post

The 50" I love it.[/quote

Do you know if this series of Tv has the IPS panel? (identified by looking closely at the pixel shape)
post #509 of 8773
I can't believe the 50" is $799 and the 55" is $1199, $400 more for that jump, is it really worth that? I'd be sitting around 10-12ft away from it in most cases.
post #510 of 8773
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Originally Posted by Shaom1 View Post

dude congrats... the tv looks sick. i absolutely love the design. currently i'm saving up to own a house or apartment lol and hope to have enough by years end, so i can't get this tv as of yet. i'm hoping by the time i can move into my own place i can get the 70 inch version of this gorgeous tv. prices should be lower by then too.
As far as I know the XVT 4K sets will be out by the fall as well. I would be curious to see what those things end up going for and how that will affect the bigger manufacturers going into 2014?
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