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Originally Posted by PlayNice View Post

What's your speed?
I tested it a bunch of times and saw everything from 9,000kb/s to 28,000kb/s, with most averaging around 17,000kb/s. Why do you suppose it fluctuates so drastically? Do you think that's fast enough for Netflix 3D?
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Originally Posted by KC-Technerd 
Given the same size display and same resolution and same viewing distance, ...
Thanks for the thorough explanation of why pixels may be more visible on an LCD TV than DLP, KC-Technerd. I'm working from home today and the TV has grown on me since I've been sitting here with it.
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Originally Posted by The Immortals is 3D 
The Immortals is 3D
Hmm, it's not showing up for me as 3D. I only found a few cartoon type things that said they were 3D by searching for "3D", but like I said none of them appeared in 3D for me. I checked out a trailer for a 3D movie in Vudu, though, and that worked and looked great! I'm probably going to rent a 3D movie with my wife tonight. smile.gif

I contacted Vizio support about getting that firmware update that would make the remote work without requiring line of site, since it seems finicky. They said there is no way to update the tv and that it's in a queue and would basically update when it's good and ready to update. cool.gif I've never heard of such a thing before. Come to think of it, I suppose my Playstation 3 updated the same way, I just never eager to see it update. Have any of you guys received the update, and if so did it alleviate the finicky remote control issue for you?

Also, I think I may have read something about a self-contained Android OS on a USB stick that would essentially open up unlimited possibilities for this TV. Does anyone know anything about it? I'd love to be able to watch pics and videos from my Google Drive, etc...
post #6092 of 8772
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Originally Posted by johndoejohndoes View Post

You said you just found out...as if you looked at a report or something?

I found out by a phone call. I'm not in the house where the TV is located. The TV is owned by relatives that aren't particularly tech or internet savvy. I'm the tech and internet consultant for them, so I get a phone call anytime goes wrong with it. I did witness this activity myself the first time the TV did it.
post #6093 of 8772
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Originally Posted by Michael79 View Post

I tested it a bunch of times and saw everything from 9,000kb/s to 28,000kb/s, with most averaging around 17,000kb/s. Why do you suppose it fluctuates so drastically? Do you think that's fast enough for Netflix 3D?
Thanks for the thorough explanation of why pixels may be more visible on an LCD TV than DLP, KC-Technerd. I'm working from home today and the TV has grown on me since I've been sitting here with it.
Hmm, it's not showing up for me as 3D. I only found a few cartoon type things that said they were 3D by searching for "3D", but like I said none of them appeared in 3D for me. I checked out a trailer for a 3D movie in Vudu, though, and that worked and looked great! I'm probably going to rent a 3D movie with my wife tonight. smile.gif

I contacted Vizio support about getting that firmware update that would make the remote work without requiring line of site, since it seems finicky. They said there is no way to update the tv and that it's in a queue and would basically update when it's good and ready to update. cool.gif I've never heard of such a thing before. Come to think of it, I suppose my Playstation 3 updated the same way, I just never eager to see it update. Have any of you guys received the update, and if so did it alleviate the finicky remote control issue for you?

Also, I think I may have read something about a self-contained Android OS on a USB stick that would essentially open up unlimited possibilities for this TV. Does anyone know anything about it? I'd love to be able to watch pics and videos from my Google Drive, etc...

What are you using for playback? If using your PS3 you have to make sure it has 3D enabled. Go to your Display Settings on your PS3 and redo the output resolution and you will see the 3D enabled by selecting your screen size.
post #6094 of 8772
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Originally Posted by Michael79 View Post

I contacted Vizio support about getting that firmware update that would make the remote work without requiring line of site, since it seems finicky. They said there is no way to update the tv and that it's in a queue and would basically update when it's good and ready to update. cool.gif I've never heard of such a thing before. Come to think of it, I suppose my Playstation 3 updated the same way, I just never eager to see it update. Have any of you guys received the update, and if so did it alleviate the finicky remote control issue for you?

Thanks for sharing that. I was wondering if a firmware update might fix this annoying shutdown issue we're experiencing. I've never heard of any other manufacturer handing their firmware updates that way. Everything else I have or have had (including Sony products) can be firmware updated at anytime once the firmware update becomes available, and it becomes available for everyone at the same time. There is no queue, and no waiting until anything is good and ready. Another negative for the Vizio.
post #6095 of 8772
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Originally Posted by KC-Technerd View Post

I found out by a phone call. I'm not in the house where the TV is located. The TV is owned by relatives that aren't particularly tech or internet savvy. I'm the tech and internet consultant for them, so I get a phone call anytime goes wrong with it. I did witness this activity myself the first time the TV did it.
Oh okay. I didn't know if I could go home and look somewhere in the menu to see if the power has dropped out. Sorry about the confusion.
post #6096 of 8772
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Originally Posted by Burnerbum View Post

I don't know where you bought it and how much time you have but if you like the set I would try another one. Especially if you have a 90 day return to try it out. But, on the other hand, if there is another set that you like now would probably be the best time to buy it since the sales will be ending soon.

It's discouraging when you find something you really like and then have trouble with it. I like Vizio TVs very much, they have an excellent picture at a great price, but I have learned that they are really bad about updating their FW and fixing issues and adding features promised. I've been waiting 3 years for them to enable the Video Streaming on the 553 and 554 that they promised.

So one word of advise, if the TV doesn't have any features on it now that you want, don't hold you breath on them adding it with a FW update.

As far as features, the TV has everything wanted. The hope for the FW update was correction of this glitch that is causing the shutdowns. The freezing image makes it appear that it is a firmware issue rather than anything hardware related. I still need to check what firmware version is installed. Maybe if we're lucky an exchange set will have a newer firmware version. I'm guessing from the lack of response that not everyone is having this issue with their Vizios.

I don't think a higher price TV is an option, and I don't think there is anything else that offers the picture and audio quality with 3D at the same or lower price. It looks like the next best option is a Panasonic TC-L50E60 or TC-P50S60, neither of which have 3D, and one of which is noted for having poor sound quality, and the other which is not supposed to be ideal for brighter rooms.
post #6097 of 8772

My 55" m series freezes often...The screen goes black and neither the remote power button or tv power button work until it is unplugged. My wife said It happened when we first got it a month ago and now it happens at least once every other day (between 30 mins to 2 viewing hours per day).

 

My tv has other screen issues that are just too distracting and I will be contacting vizio this weekend to get it switched out.

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I recently bought the 50" m series and Have had all the same issues as stated above as well as having scratches on the bezel and 1 had a huge bump on the top left if the tv.

 

I have returned 2 of these and I am currently on my 3rd that needs to be returned.

 

I thought I did my research on the tv but it is a piece of crap and I will never choose vizio again.

post #6099 of 8772
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Originally Posted by KC-Technerd View Post

As far as features, the TV has everything wanted. The hope for the FW update was correction of this glitch that is causing the shutdowns. The freezing image makes it appear that it is a firmware issue rather than anything hardware related. I still need to check what firmware version is installed. Maybe if we're lucky an exchange set will have a newer firmware version. I'm guessing from the lack of response that not everyone is having this issue with their Vizios.

I don't think a higher price TV is an option, and I don't think there is anything else that offers the picture and audio quality with 3D at the same or lower price. It looks like the next best option is a Panasonic TC-L50E60 or TC-P50S60, neither of which have 3D, and one of which is noted for having poor sound quality, and the other which is not supposed to be ideal for brighter rooms.

I agree on the sound, Vizio has the best sound from internal speakers. I'm not one that turns on the Reciever everytime I watch TV. I added a powered Sub Woofer to the outputs on the TV, set the audio output to Variable and it makes a big improvement to the sound. If you have one handy try it. I hope your next set works out for you. I have 8 Vizio flat panels so I'm very familiar with the Pros and Cons of Vizio. But I still like the sets. I'm anxious to see the 4k, Glasses free 3D panels.
post #6100 of 8772
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Originally Posted by Ron3636 View Post

I recently bought the 50" m series and Have had all the same issues as stated above as well as having scratches on the bezel and 1 had a huge bump on the top left if the tv.

I have returned 2 of these and I am currently on my 3rd that needs to be returned.

I thought I did my research on the tv but it is a piece of crap and I will never choose vizio again.
When you push on the left side of the screen where it meets the frame does it go in?
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Just got my M50 today. Using these settings:

Picture Mode: Calibrated 

Backlight: 75

Brightness:70

Contrast: 73

Color: 53

Tint: 0

Sharpness: 20

 

Color Temp: Normal

Red Gain: 525

Green Gain: 472

Blue Gain: 443

Red Offset: 505

Green Offset: 512

Blue Offset: 514

 

Auto Brightness Control: Off

Black Detail: Medium

Smart Dimming: On

Smooth Motion Effect: Medium

Reduce Signal Noise: Off

Reduce Block Noise: Off

Film Mode: Auto

 

Currently watching RANGO on FX HD on Comcast and OMG. I am blown away at the quality and colors. The smoothness of the show, the quality. I am very much pleased with this TV. Also using a Harmony 650 remote to control everything and it works like a charm. Very pleased with this purchase. Now must watch a movie in 3D.

 

Also am getting a Disney WOW disc to see how I cam improve on the top settings but so far am very impressed.

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Hello...I'm coming over from the Samsung UN60F7100 thread.  Bought one...terrible clouding/flashlighting in all four corners and middle bottom.  Contacted amazon to exchange for same model since some have had luck with it and gotten a good one.  They had none in stock but offered me the Vizio 65 inch M series for the same price I paid for the Samsung which was 1599 (black Friday deal).  The Vizio is currently selling for 1750.  From what I've read here the remote sucks, which isn't too much of a problem for me as I control the basic function with my cable remote.  Anything I should be on the lookout for with this model?  Appreciate any feedback.  Thanks.

post #6103 of 8772
Just got my TV yesterday guys, so far so VERY good, loving it...tried 3D for a second didn't seem to work. I believe right when we turned it on, it did an update and everything seems fine. But my TV is literally sitting right next to my modem and router, so...
post #6104 of 8772
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Originally Posted by PlayNice View Post



Netflix 3D does require a minimum network speed, are you at or above that threshold?

Netflix 3D was down today. They told me that it would be back up soon, but I haven't checked.
post #6105 of 8772
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Originally Posted by johndoejohndoes View Post


When you push on the left side of the screen where it meets the frame does it go in?

no it does not.

post #6106 of 8772
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Originally Posted by KC-Technerd View Post

Is there anyway at all to force the firmware to update? Calling Vizio customer support perhaps? This freezing and shutting down thing is getting ridiculous and there's very little time to return the TV to the store.

Sorry for the slow reply... don't know if anyone has answered you yet, but apparently the updates are meted out in batches buy serial number. Someone, maybe a couple people, posted this earlier in the thread, via Vizio tech support (for what that's worth). The closest thing to forcing an update what the someone came up with was to go to Menu>System>Reset & Admin>Service Check>?>yes, and wait... sometimes overnight, sometimes a week, sometimes a month and a half like I've been waiting since I read about a newer firmware version here.

Once tech support had me do a hard reset that might be worth a try. In fact, here's my post from June about the freezes I was having:
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I have had a few freezes also with the set. The first time I was streaming JPGs from my computer when the set froze while loading. Turned the set off, couldn't turn it back on with either the remote nor the back button for about a minute. Mild panic. confused.gif

The most recent time was two days ago when I was changing inputs the tv read "retrieving data"... for about 45 minutes. At first I thought it was a HDMI issue, them maybe the TV was updating (though I know it should be off...) then I got impatient and trying the back button... nothing. So I called Vizio support and was walked through a hard reset (unplug, hold power button down for 30 seconds, replug and restart). Things have been mostly great since then.

I think a some of the slow remote response I'm having is actually the TV precessing commands or buffering. My HTM MX-500 remote works better most of the time, but I will get freezing/buffering with that also sometimes. And because there's no indication of input being processed, the tendency is to keep mashing buttons until something happens. I find that if I just wait, the TV will eventually do what ever the original command was. It's a pita, but maybe something that can be fixed in a software update down the line (v. 1.04 so far).

Interesting flashback... I'd forgotten what a pita that was. I was so infatuated with the PQ that I figured/hoped it would work itself out eventually (which it has). And I didn't want to have to exchange the TV because I got a decent panel.

Anyway, hope that helps.
post #6107 of 8772
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Originally Posted by lotohnz View Post


"My HTM MX-500 remote works better most of the time"
 
​I have a mx 980 and there is no difference. leads me to think the ir receiver in the tv is junk. I put a reflective bit of material by the sensor and it works a hell of a lot better.
 
The supposed fw update is supposed to enable the wifi ability of the remote and it is said to work great, but when will this update come???? my latest tv has been online for 8 days and still no update. 
post #6108 of 8772
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Originally Posted by Ron3636 View Post

I recently bought the 50" m series and Have had all the same issues as stated above as well as having scratches on the bezel and 1 had a huge bump on the top left if the tv.

I have returned 2 of these and I am currently on my 3rd that needs to be returned.

I thought I did my research on the tv but it is a piece of crap and I will never choose vizio again.

Prepare to be disappointed with other brands as well. Quality Control is lacking at many manufacturers, not just Vizio. I went through plenty of Samsung's and LG's before sticking with my Vizio.
post #6109 of 8772
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Originally Posted by PlayNice 
What are you using for playback? If using your PS3 you have to make sure it has 3D enabled. Go to your Display Settings on your PS3 and redo the output resolution and you will see the 3D enabled by selecting your screen size.

At first I tried with my Playstation 3's Netflix app, but then I tried with the TV's Netflix app to rule out the PS3 as the issue and it still didn't work.

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Originally Posted by KC-Technerd 
Thanks for sharing that.

You're welcome.

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Originally Posted by srg914 
Hello...I'm coming over from the Samsung UN60F7100 thread. Bought one...terrible clouding/flashlighting in all four corners and middle bottom. Contacted amazon to exchange for same model since some have had luck with it and gotten a good one. They had none in stock but offered me the Vizio 65 inch M series for the same price I paid for the Samsung which was 1599 (black Friday deal). The Vizio is currently selling for 1750. From what I've read here the remote sucks, which isn't too much of a problem for me as I control the basic function with my cable remote. Anything I should be on the lookout for with this model? Appreciate any feedback. Thanks.

I just took the 65 inch model out of the box yesterday. Having read a fair amount about issues with TVs lately, I was very nervous that I would find light spilling through the edges, patches of of discoloration, etc. I'm happy to report that there doesn't seem to be any such issues. I was also very nervous about ordering the 65" because I kept reading that it was the only Vizio M model to have a glossy, reflective finish as opposed to a semi-glossy finish. I actually called Vizio to ask support about the difference between the 65" model's screen and others, and of course they had no idea what I was talking about. While I can see myself in it when the TV is off, I'm happy to report that it isn't an issue when we're watching it.

I had also looked at Samsung and had actually ordered the F8000 model at nearly twice the price of the Vizio, but cancelled when I thought about the Active 3D shutter glasses fluttering in front of my eyes. Maybe I didn't research things thoroughly enough, but the Vizio seemed to be the best non 4K large passive LED tv available.

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Originally Posted by DoctorVideo 
Netflix 3D was down today. They told me that it would be back up soon, but I haven't checked.

That would certainly explain its not working, thanks for sharing. I'll try it again later. I wonder why they bother to offer 3D at all since they seemed to only offer a handle of obscure 3D cartoons. Or perhaps their 3D catalog was unavailable yesterday since 3D itself was? I'll see if anymore titles appear in the search for 3D today.
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Originally Posted by lotohnz View Post

Sorry for the slow reply... don't know if anyone has answered you yet, but apparently the updates are meted out in batches buy serial number. Someone, maybe a couple people, posted this earlier in the thread, via Vizio tech support (for what that's worth). The closest thing to forcing an update what the someone came up with was to go to Menu>System>Reset & Admin>Service Check>?>yes, and wait... sometimes overnight, sometimes a week, sometimes a month and a half like I've been waiting since I read about a newer firmware version here.

Once tech support had me do a hard reset that might be worth a try. In fact, here's my post from June about the freezes I was having:
Interesting flashback... I'd forgotten what a pita that was. I was so infatuated with the PQ that I figured/hoped it would work itself out eventually (which it has). And I didn't want to have to exchange the TV because I got a decent panel.

Anyway, hope that helps.

Thanks. This issue we're having just happens when the remote is sitting on the table, untouched. No changing of inputs, no changing channels, no smart apps, no nothing. Just watching TV or Blu-ray. No buttons being pushed on the remote anytime close to when this happens. The image freezes for about 3-4 seconds, then the TV turns itself off. A "power cycle" of unplugging the TV, pressing and holding the power button on the back of the TV for 15 seconds, then plugging the TV back in has been tried more than once in hopes of correcting this.

The closest thing to forcing an update you mention sounds like nothing different than just waiting anyway. Perhaps Vizio finds it cheaper to meter out the firmware updates to one TV at a time rather than to offer them in traditional on-demand downloads where they might have more than one person downloading the firmware at the same time. In any case this TV is being returned. Whether to try another Vizio or switch to another brand is still in question.
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Originally Posted by DaveMN View Post

Try here.

Thanks! I have this calibration set up for regular tv (480I). Is this also a goos calibration for Blue Ray, ect? Also, does anyone have a calibration for specifically gaming (ps3, ps4 xbox, ect)?
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I'm finding that everything on HD (1080i) cable looks pixelated and has artifacts as if it were highly compressed video. The HDX movie we rented on Vudu last night looked good, but the image when watching cable TV is pretty distracting. Is this just the way it is with large 1080p TVs, or might a different make/model display a picture with less pixelation, artifacts, etc.?
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Originally Posted by Burnerbum View Post

I agree on the sound, Vizio has the best sound from internal speakers. I'm not one that turns on the Reciever everytime I watch TV. I added a powered Sub Woofer to the outputs on the TV, set the audio output to Variable and it makes a big improvement to the sound. If you have one handy try it. I hope your next set works out for you. I have 8 Vizio flat panels so I'm very familiar with the Pros and Cons of Vizio. But I still like the sets. I'm anxious to see the 4k, Glasses free 3D panels.

Wait. So you have just the internal speakers and hooked up a sub on variable? How did u hook up? Optical out from tv to sub?
post #6114 of 8772
Does anyone else get a green line on the bottom and left side of the tv, when viewing videos from Comcast On-Dmand
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I wanted to post an update in regards to the trouble I had with my 55 inch, and my subsequent upgrade to the 60.

 

First, I am quite pleased with my experience dealing with Amazon.  When calling to return my 55 inch as defective, it was smooth and painless.  No hassle.  They also provided an extra $100 off the 60 inch because I was returning the 55 inch.  Amazon has ensured my future business for large purchases.  Delivery and pick up were done within 1-3 days of my call.  Extremely satisfied.

 

Now for the TV.  The 60 inch is just beautiful.  The picture is perfect.  I don't have any light bleed at all with smart dimming on.  It's a noticeable difference. There is definitely light bleed with the smart dimming off though, quite a bit of it.  I was also having an issue (which I posted a picture for earlier) with black lines on very bright, colored screens.  The best guess I have is an issue with the bulbs lighting properly.  My Xbox one start screen (the bright green one) had black lines on it, but that is no longer the case.  All of my issues with the 55 inch have been resolved with the 60 inch.  I put the 60 inch on my credit card so that it would be delivered at the same time as the 55 was picked up, so no lapse in having a TV in the room.  Amazon was able to credit my card for the 55 inch immediately after the delivery company confirmed with the rep that they had picked up the TV (this was something Amazon proactively told me they could do, not something I complained about and they accommodated.  kudos to Amazon.).

 

The 55 inch to 60 inch wasn't a dramatic size increase, as neither myself or my girlfriend can notice any difference.  The picture just seems more...even? in terms of lighting (maybe the distribution?)

 

I'm definitely glad I didn't suck it up and deal with the issues I had with the 55 inch.  I would have regretted it in a few months.  Thanks to everyone that helped with my questions!

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Originally Posted by Keith Lashinski View Post

 

Just got my M50 today. Using these settings:

Picture Mode: Calibrated 

Backlight: 75

Brightness:70

Contrast: 73

Color: 53

Tint: 0

Sharpness: 20

 

Color Temp: Normal

Red Gain: 525

Green Gain: 472

Blue Gain: 443

Red Offset: 505

Green Offset: 512

Blue Offset: 514

 

Auto Brightness Control: Off

Black Detail: Medium

Smart Dimming: On

Smooth Motion Effect: Medium

Reduce Signal Noise: Off

Reduce Block Noise: Off

Film Mode: Auto

I just bought a M47i-a2 and have been trying to get the best picture. My TV is in a fairly dark room, shades on both windows and only have the table desk light on.

3 things I'll use the TV for:

-DirecTV

-PS3/PS4

-Computer/videogaming

 

What are the best recommended settings, if you someone could help out? I tried searching for settings for the 47 in this thread, but couldn't find any. However the settings I quoted were fairly decent when watching TV.

I'm just not sure what to use for when playing my PS3 or computer. (will be playing mostly single player games, so input lag isn't really an issue right now)

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I just got the M601d-A3 and I'm wondering about the suggestions for best picture/color settings I've seen posted in a few places.  When I go into the menu, the R/G/B gain and offset defaults are around 126 and only seem to max out  well before reaching the suggested settings posted here in 400/500s.  Is this just that these setting aren't relevant for my model or is there something I am missing here for how to adjust the TV setting?  Thanks.

post #6118 of 8772
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Originally Posted by MandyLA View Post

I just got the M601d-A3 and I'm wondering about the suggestions for best picture/color settings I've seen posted in a few places.  When I go into the menu, the R/G/B gain and offset defaults are around 126 and only seem to max out  well before reaching the suggested settings posted here in 400/500s.  Is this just that these setting aren't relevant for my model or is there something I am missing here for how to adjust the TV setting?  Thanks.

You'll find useful information in the Official Vizio "M-Series" Razor Owners Survival Thread.
post #6119 of 8772
I will be getting the m651-a2r this week. Can someone tell me how firmware updates are installed? Are they automatic, can I do them manually? How do I check my firmware version? Has their been an update for the remote to use Wi-Fi and any idea of when that's coming out? Thanks in advance.
post #6120 of 8772
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Originally Posted by srg914 View Post

I will be getting the m651-a2r this week. Can someone tell me how firmware updates are installed? Are they automatic, can I do them manually? How do I check my firmware version? Has their been an update for the remote to use Wi-Fi and any idea of when that's coming out? Thanks in advance.

From what I have been able to gather from reading this thread recently, they happen automatically. They roll out after registering your TV and you just have to wait till it gets to you.

To check I assume you go to menu>system>info (or something similar).

I do not know what the latest firmware number is, maybe someone can chime in with that one.

Enjoy your new TV!

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