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post #6781 of 8776
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Originally Posted by Newyorker View Post

So you don't have any flashlighting at all? I'm struggling with my set, I have some but not sure if that's par for the course or not.
Maybe it's because I'm setting the backlight to 37 (still plenty bright in my living room). I'm using jdahlum's rgb settings and used the Disney WOW disk for the other settings. I just tried some content with extremes in a totally dark room (the commercial for Carrie) and didn't have flashlighting to any noticeable extent. If I look really carefully at a totally white screen, I can see a tiny amount of screen irregularity in the corners, but significantly less than the Sharp LC-70LE73U I looked at a couple of years ago. It may be that the price premium for the 801d is not only for the size. They may do more quality control. I'm picky but not ocd about imperfections and I understood going in the benefits and limitations of the edge lit local dimming. But, overall, the picture is remarkably good (and my Mits 65413 had a very good picture for its time).
post #6782 of 8776

The TV is WONDERFUL and easy to set up. I recommend it and I would buy it again. It was a good price at Costco. It took me a while to load in all my log in info for each app because the remote would not respond. The picture is great. I'm sure if you are buying the TV you probably have (or getting) a sound bar or surround system, so don't worry so much about the speakers. They are only O.K.
I have called customer service 4 times because of the remote issue and because my apps stopped working even when the TV showed signal from my WIFI. The second time I called about the app issue the representative was able to walk me through the fix. It all depends on who you get. It was obvious the second person was much more knowledgeable than the first. They could not help me with the remote control issue other than change the batteries and push all the buttons to make sure they are not stuck and buy a Vizio universal remote. (I didn't buy it)
Now to the remote control fix. The RF receiver is BELOW the bevel edge underneath the TV. AHHHH design issues. So here is a video that shows a simple fix. Make sure you turn off the option for the power indicator so the fix is not lighted up.
http://youtu.be/uZge3rDWsOo (Youtube "Vizio Remote Fix")
I cut up a beer can and taped it to the bottom like the video shows and now I can use the remote from over 25 feet away. You can't even tell it's there.

post #6783 of 8776

The TV is WONDERFUL and easy to set up. I recommend it and I would buy it again. It was a good price at Costco. It took me a while to load in all my log in info for each app because the remote would not respond. The picture is great. I'm sure if you are buying the TV you probably have (or getting) a sound bar or surround system, so don't worry so much about the speakers. They are only O.K.
I have called customer service 4 times because of the remote issue and because my apps stopped working even when the TV showed signal from my WIFI. The second time I called about the app issue the representative was able to walk me through the fix. It all depends on who you get. It was obvious the second person was much more knowledgeable than the first. They could not help me with the remote control issue other than change the batteries and push all the buttons to make sure they are not stuck and buy a Vizio universal remote. (I didn't buy it)
Now to the remote control fix. The RF receiver is BELOW the bevel edge underneath the TV. AHHHH design issues. So here is a video that shows a simple fix. Make sure you turn off the option for the power indicator so the fix is not lighted up.
Youtube "Vizio Remote Fix"
I cut up a beer can and taped it to the bottom like the video shows and now I can use the remote from over 25 feet away. You can't even tell it's there.

post #6784 of 8776
Ran a search and didn't see anyone with this probem... which worries me...

I'm on my 2nd M701. Both of them have an issue with my HD cable channels breaking up. 480i/p is fine, 720p breaks up a little and 1080i is unwatchable. When they "break up" I get a lot of artifacts on the screen and the sound drops out. There is a coaxial cable direct from the wall to the TV. I've had 5 other TV's including Sony and Samsung's plugged into this same jack with the same cable and the same channels worked prefect. Only thing I can come up with is Vizio puts a cheap QAM tuner in their TVs and it's not strong enough to handle high resolution? I have a powered amp and I was thinking about running the coaxial cable through it and trying that. But I don't want to damage the TV, the amp is 15dB.
post #6785 of 8776
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Originally Posted by Infoirt View Post

One word of advice to you is never make a decision or judgement based on pictures, especially the ones on a manufactures marketing website. They will deceive you. You have to see it in with your own eyes. If you are willing to wait a few months and pay a premium for maybe a better visual set then wait and see what comes out. You might not get a light bleed from the sides, but you might just get a halo light effect from the back lit Led. Just speculating but you never know until you see it. My m70 has no light bleeding and saving 600 bucks now is a no brainier for me.

My set has no more light bleed than my direct lit first generation XVT did. People forget that direct lit also have uniformity issues but to a lesser degree. You are more likely to have uniformity issues with these edge lit sets for sure but waiting around is no guarantee. I will say that if I buy a set that has enough light bleed to effect normal viewing (not credits, test patterns, or black screens) then the set is going back whether it's edge lit or back lit.

As for as the local dimming features goes, this set has 16 zone local dimming. Next year's model will have 16 zone local dimming.


You guys can wait. I'm enjoying my TV now. ;-)
post #6786 of 8776
Hi guys,

The 65" Vizio M I got last month is making me feel like I've got OCD; I can't watch anything now without noticing the white light pouring out from the corners, how blacks don't look uniformly black but have patches of lighter areas, etc. I have exactly 1 day left to decide whether to return the TV (although we threw out the box so I'm not sure how we'd do it) and am wrestling with the decision.

Here is a picture of the tv on an input with no source, which should presumably be black:



Is the white light coming from the corners and the splotches of unevenness something every LCD tv or almost every LCD tv has these days? Or is my tv defective? Is it reasonable to expect no light spilling through the corners and uniform or near uniform blacks?

Would you return this TV? If so, is there a type of 65 inch TV that will not suffer from these issues?

I wish I could get over it and save myself the hassle of trying to return it without a box, but it's just so distracting. Of course, I don't sit and stare at an input with no source, but many shows have dark scenes where these issues manifest, are letterboxed, etc.

Many thanks for your help/input since I have to make this decision today or it will be too late. frown.gif
post #6787 of 8776
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Originally Posted by lotohnz View Post

Actually, that's incorrect. From the manual:

"Highlight Daylight Savings and press OK. The Daylight Savings menu is displayed. Choose On if daylight savings is in effect, or Off if it is not."

Interesting, confusing use of the word 'automatically' in the onscreen menu IMO.

post #6788 of 8776
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Originally Posted by Michael79 View Post

Hi guys,

The 65" Vizio M I got last month is making me feel like I've got OCD; I can't watch anything now without noticing the white light pouring out from the corners, how blacks don't look uniformly black but have patches of lighter areas, etc. I have exactly 1 day left to decide whether to return the TV (although we threw out the box so I'm not sure how we'd do it) and am wrestling with the decision.

Here is a picture of the tv on an input with no source, which should presumably be black:



Is the white light coming from the corners and the splotches of unevenness something every LCD tv or almost every LCD tv has these days? Or is my tv defective? Is it reasonable to expect no light spilling through the corners and uniform or near uniform blacks?

Would you return this TV? If so, is there a type of 65 inch TV that will not suffer from these issues?

I wish I could get over it and save myself the hassle of trying to return it without a box, but it's just so distracting. Of course, I don't sit and stare at an input with no source, but many shows have dark scenes where these issues manifest, are letterboxed, etc.

Many thanks for your help/input since I have to make this decision today or it will be too late. frown.gif



That is pretty bad. Have you adjusted the settings? If you haven't done it yet try setting the back light to about 35. You will need to first turn of the Auto brightness, make the change and then turn the Auto brightness to High. This will help some but will not totally solve the problem. As you probably know all edge lit panels suffer from some degree of light bleed, some more and some less but lots of people choose to live with it, I was not one of them. The content you are watching and the ambient light (or lack thereof) will make a difference as well. I might also add that this is not Vizio specific because there are lots of stories about light bleed on the Samsung forums as wekk. I have been spoiled watching a 55" Sammy plasma, the picture is fantastic but the heat it throws off is enough to warm a room. Good luck.
post #6789 of 8776
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Originally Posted by Newyorker View Post

So i got my Vizio and set it up. For a LCD it's not bad very feed dependent. Got flash lighting around all four corners with the lower right being the worst. Is this normal? Remote is a little slow but it's usable. Still looks worst than the really old plasma it replaced. How did LCD ever win over plasma? Does anyone care about the actual picture anymore or is it the ipod effect? Small convenient but not as good as the real thing?

I have yet to see an LCD that looks as good as a plasma but the plasmas are energy hogs. I am still using a 3 year old Sammy 55" plasma while I wait for the 2014 Vizio back lit tvs to hit the market. Hopefully they will be a big improvement over the 2013 models. I simply could not live with the light bleed on the current models, I even went so far as to try 3 different sets, one of which was better but still not good enough. I think most people would probably have accepted it but not me.
post #6790 of 8776
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Originally Posted by jtl46 View Post

I have yet to see an LCD that looks as good as a plasma but the plasmas are energy hogs.
$40-$50 a year to power a 65" Panasonic Plasma is hardly breaking the bank. That is around $4 a month. A Venti Caramel Macchiato from Starbucks cost more then that so I would hardly say that is a reason to not own a new plasma. Smaller sizes cost even less then that.

Consumers are very misinformed to what is costs to run a newer plasma and another reason why a lot of people choose to not look at them.
post #6791 of 8776
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Originally Posted by jtl46 View Post

I have yet to see an LCD that looks as good as a plasma but the plasmas are energy hogs. I am still using a 3 year old Sammy 55" plasma while I wait for the 2014 Vizio back lit tvs to hit the market. Hopefully they will be a big improvement over the 2013 models. I simply could not live with the light bleed on the current models, I even went so far as to try 3 different sets, one of which was better but still not good enough. I think most people would probably have accepted it but not me.

I think the energy thing is blown out of proportion. It'll cost maybe $20-30 more a year depending on how much you use it. As for the heat I don't notice it much so it's not an issue. My biggest issue with not getting a plasma instead of the Vizio is finding one under 50", they don't seem to make them anymore. For a bedroom TV that will mostly used for just cable viewing the Vizio will probably have to do since most of the time the room lights are on.
post #6792 of 8776
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Originally Posted by Newyorker View Post

I think the energy thing is blown out of proportion. It'll cost maybe $20-30 more a year depending on how much you use it. As for the heat I don't notice it much so it's not an issue. My biggest issue with not getting a plasma instead of the Vizio is finding one under 50", they don't seem to make them anymore. For a bedroom TV that will mostly used for just cable viewing the Vizio will probably have to do since most of the time the room lights are on.


We are in a "go green" era and lots of people take it very seriously, I not so much but I did replace all of the incandescent light bulbs in my house with LED and CF. My electric bill last month was $74 (that is our only energy cost) for a 2000 sf all electric home and using my plasma tv. I do live in SW Florida so I wonder if that makes a difference;). I went LCD primarily because I wanted a larger and lighter tv but of course now there are very few mfrs of plasma tvs.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57579932-221/what-you-need-to-know-about-tv-power-consumption/
post #6793 of 8776
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Originally Posted by jtl46 View Post

We are in a "go green" era and lots of people take it very seriously, I not so much but I did replace all of the incandescent light bulbs in my house with LED and CF. My electric bill last month was $74 (that is our only energy cost) for a 2000 sf all electric home and using my plasma tv. I do live in SW Florida so I wonder if that makes a difference;). I went LCD primarily because I wanted a larger and lighter tv but of course now there are very few mfrs of plasma tvs.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57579932-221/what-you-need-to-know-about-tv-power-consumption/
It's okay to go green but why should the consumer have to select a crappy technology in order to do so.

If energy efficient bulbs flickered every 5 minutes, made your room look yellow and hurt your eyes, would you still use it?

So why should we buy TV's that have clouds all over it, beams of light coming from the corners, having to watch the TV from center stage in order to see a good picture and deal with motion issues.
post #6794 of 8776
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Originally Posted by Michael79 View Post

Hi guys,

The 65" Vizio M I got last month is making me feel like I've got OCD; I can't watch anything now without noticing the white light pouring out from the corners, how blacks don't look uniformly black but have patches of lighter areas, etc. I have exactly 1 day left to decide whether to return the TV (although we threw out the box so I'm not sure how we'd do it) and am wrestling with the decision.

Here is a picture of the tv on an input with no source, which should presumably be black:



Is the white light coming from the corners and the splotches of unevenness something every LCD tv or almost every LCD tv has these days? Or is my tv defective? Is it reasonable to expect no light spilling through the corners and uniform or near uniform blacks?

Would you return this TV? If so, is there a type of 65 inch TV that will not suffer from these issues?

I wish I could get over it and save myself the hassle of trying to return it without a box, but it's just so distracting. Of course, I don't sit and stare at an input with no source, but many shows have dark scenes where these issues manifest, are letterboxed, etc.

Many thanks for your help/input since I have to make this decision today or it will be too late. frown.gif

You can't judge the uniformity of the image from a blank screen unless you use a setting that doesn't have local dimming or turn it off normally. When the tv gets a signal, the local dimming kicks in suppressing most of the uniformity issues. Thats part of the joy of local dimming besides helping black levels. Put on a movie in space or watch some credits roll. If you don't see it, don't worry about it. I've had 6 edge lit led sets and I've never seen one that doesn't have uniformity issues without a signal sent to it. My Samsung F7100 has clouding when it first boots up. As soon as a signal comes on and the dimming kicks in, its perfectly black even with my backlight maxed.
post #6795 of 8776
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Originally Posted by snork View Post

I got a 65" last weekend from Best Buy. Mine didn't come with the wifi direct firmware. My version is V1.06.6.1136. From what I've read here the 1.06.X firmware is on sets that don't have the wifi direct remote and the 1.09.X versions are already wifi direct.

So far I've been super happy with my set. I seem to have gotten a good example: no light bleeding through the bezel edges, no blooming/cloudiness in the corners or edges. A full black screen shows almost total uniformity except for being a little brighter towards the top/bottom (but that is just because of the edge lighting). My only gripe is that the screen is pretty reflective, but I knew that going into it having seen it at the store.

I'm really liking my new m701d, but this waiting for the firmware is quite infuriating. Why can't vizio do things the normal way?

For those who have the wifi remote enabled, does it at least work well? The remote as it is now is not so good IMO.

This is my second vizio. My first was the xvt553 and the Bluetooth remote on that tv was by far the best remote I have ever had.
post #6796 of 8776
Can anyone confirm that a good universal remote will mitigate the remote issues with this television? I am trying to decided between the 55 inch M series couple and a $300 more expensive Samsung 6400.

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post #6797 of 8776
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Originally Posted by ChrisMPharmD View Post

The TV is WONDERFUL and easy to set up. I recommend it and I would buy it again. It was a good price at Costco. It took me a while to load in all my log in info for each app because the remote would not respond. The picture is great. I'm sure if you are buying the TV you probably have (or getting) a sound bar or surround system, so don't worry so much about the speakers. They are only O.K.

I have called customer service 4 times because of the remote issue and because my apps stopped working even when the TV showed signal from my WIFI. The second time I called about the app issue the representative was able to walk me through the fix. It all depends on who you get. It was obvious the second person was much more knowledgeable than the first. They could not help me with the remote control issue other than change the batteries and push all the buttons to make sure they are not stuck and buy a Vizio universal remote. (I didn't buy it)

Now to the remote control fix. The RF receiver is BELOW the bevel edge underneath the TV. AHHHH design issues. So here is a video that shows a simple fix. Make sure you turn off the option for the power indicator so the fix is not lighted up.
http://youtu.be/uZge3rDWsOo (Youtube "Vizio Remote Fix")

I cut up a beer can and taped it to the bottom like the video shows and now I can use the remote from over 25 feet away. You can't even tell it's there.

I don't think there's a design issue with the placement of the IR as that's the general vicinity of where it is on most televisions and I had no issues with the IR receiver receiving signals from my Harmony remote. But kudos to you for finding a solution to remedy the remote's weak and narrow signal.
post #6798 of 8776
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

It's okay to go green but why should the consumer have to select a crappy technology in order to do so.

If energy efficient bulbs flickered every 5 minutes, made your room look yellow and hurt your eyes, would you still use it?

So why should we buy TV's that have clouds all over it, beams of light coming from the corners, having to watch the TV from center stage in order to see a good picture and deal with motion issues.


I actually purchased replaced my incandescent bulbs with LEDs as much for the aesthetics as the energy savings. I like a more white light. As far as tv's go I think is comes down to price points more than anything else. Several years ago i purchased a 42" plasma that did not even have a built in tuner and it cost more than a 70" Vizio M series today. The whole thing of going with the edge lit model was to make it cheaper and thinner and the trade off was the quality of the picture. I will gladly pay a little more and accept a thicker panel if the picture looks good which is why I am waiting for the new models and hoping they are an improvement. There are so many complaints about the light bleed in the edge lit sets and that includes all manufactures that I think if Vizio can put out a good back lit set at a decent price point they will own the market. We will know in a very short time. I bet reviews of the E series will be out by the end of the month since CES is next week.
post #6799 of 8776
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Originally Posted by Michael79 View Post

Hi guys,

The 65" Vizio M I got last month is making me feel like I've got OCD; I can't watch anything now without noticing the white light pouring out from the corners, how blacks don't look uniformly black but have patches of lighter areas, etc. I have exactly 1 day left to decide whether to return the TV (although we threw out the box so I'm not sure how we'd do it) and am wrestling with the decision.

Here is a picture of the tv on an input with no source, which should presumably be black:



Is the white light coming from the corners and the splotches of unevenness something every LCD tv or almost every LCD tv has these days? Or is my tv defective? Is it reasonable to expect no light spilling through the corners and uniform or near uniform blacks?

Would you return this TV? If so, is there a type of 65 inch TV that will not suffer from these issues?

I wish I could get over it and save myself the hassle of trying to return it without a box, but it's just so distracting. Of course, I don't sit and stare at an input with no source, but many shows have dark scenes where these issues manifest, are letterboxed, etc.

Many thanks for your help/input since I have to make this decision today or it will be too late. frown.gif

You don't need a box to return it. Just take everything that came inside the box. My M551D-A2R had the same issue as yours. I calibrated the TV, and change backlight, brightness and other stuff, and it didn't change anything. I returned it and got the Samsung 7100 series, and no one in my family could stand the active 3D. So, it's going back. Tuesday the M601D-A3R is being delivered. The wife and kids like the passive 3D better, and I saved $600 dollars by returning the Samsung. The Samsung had light bleed in the corners as well, but not as bad as your Vizio.
post #6800 of 8776
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Originally Posted by cjsiv View Post

You can't judge the uniformity of the image from a blank screen unless you use a setting that doesn't have local dimming or turn it off normally. When the tv gets a signal, the local dimming kicks in suppressing most of the uniformity issues. Thats part of the joy of local dimming besides helping black levels. Put on a movie in space or watch some credits roll. If you don't see it, don't worry about it. I've had 6 edge lit led sets and I've never seen one that doesn't have uniformity issues without a signal sent to it. My Samsung F7100 has clouding when it first boots up. As soon as a signal comes on and the dimming kicks in, its perfectly black even with my backlight maxed.

I found no joy in Vizio's local dimming scheme as it had horrendous blooming which bothered me more than the flashlighting and clouding light bleed issues.
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

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Originally Posted by Michael79 View Post

Hi guys,

The 65" Vizio M I got last month is making me feel like I've got OCD; I can't watch anything now without noticing the white light pouring out from the corners, how blacks don't look uniformly black but have patches of lighter areas, etc. I have exactly 1 day left to decide whether to return the TV (although we threw out the box so I'm not sure how we'd do it) and am wrestling with the decision.

Here is a picture of the tv on an input with no source, which should presumably be black:



Is the white light coming from the corners and the splotches of unevenness something every LCD tv or almost every LCD tv has these days? Or is my tv defective? Is it reasonable to expect no light spilling through the corners and uniform or near uniform blacks?

Would you return this TV? If so, is there a type of 65 inch TV that will not suffer from these issues?

I wish I could get over it and save myself the hassle of trying to return it without a box, but it's just so distracting. Of course, I don't sit and stare at an input with no source, but many shows have dark scenes where these issues manifest, are letterboxed, etc.

Many thanks for your help/input since I have to make this decision today or it will be too late. frown.gif

You don't need a box to return it. Just take everything that came inside the box. My M551D-A2R had the same issue as yours. I calibrated the TV, and change backlight, brightness and other stuff, and it didn't change anything. I returned it and got the Samsung 7100 series, and no one in my family could stand the active 3D. So, it's going back. Tuesday the M601D-A3R is being delivered. The wife and kids like the passive 3D better, and I saved $600 dollars by returning the Samsung. The Samsung had light bleed in the corners as well, but not as bad as your Vizio.

Is the M601D-A3R different species wise besides screen size than the M551D-A2R? Thanks.

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post #6802 of 8776
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Originally Posted by cavenger View Post

Is the M601D-A3R different species wise besides screen size than the M551D-A2R? Thanks.

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I believe its the same technology just a bigger screen. The 60" appeared to have less light bleeding than the 55" when I was messing around with it at Best Buy. However, I know this might be different once it is in my living room.
post #6803 of 8776
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Originally Posted by cavenger View Post

Is the M601D-A3R different species wise besides screen size than the M551D-A2R? Thanks.

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There are differences between the A2 and the A3 series. For example, the color temperature scale is substantially different on the two series but consistent within each series (the same no matter what size screen in that series).
post #6804 of 8776
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Originally Posted by eric3316 View Post

It's okay to go green but why should the consumer have to select a crappy technology in order to do so.

If energy efficient bulbs flickered every 5 minutes, made your room look yellow and hurt your eyes, would you still use it?

So why should we buy TV's that have clouds all over it, beams of light coming from the corners, having to watch the TV from center stage in order to see a good picture and deal with motion issues.

Brave words to say in a LCD thread! Don't forget about contrast and color depth. I agree with your assessment except I thought the Vizio handled motion very well. There are legitimate reasons not to put up with a plasma such as image retention, poor peak white performance, room lighting, and gaming performance. Fortunately none of those are issues for me except for the gray whites which is why I'm keeping a keen eye on the successor(s) to the F8500 which we should know about from the forthcoming CES.

Back to the Vizio "M" series, I would have been very happy with it as a secondary TV for the bedroom if it weren't for the light bleed issues. Other than that I thought it was an excellent all around performer for a LCD.
Edited by venus933 - 1/5/14 at 10:30am
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Originally Posted by cavenger View Post

Can anyone confirm that a good universal remote will mitigate the remote issues with this television? I am trying to decided between the 55 inch M series couple and a $300 more expensive Samsung 6400.

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Yes, I have a harmony 700 remote and it works MUCH better than the standard remote. The Harmony's OR blaster is much more powerful than you standard TV remote.

As long as the remote is pointing in the general direction of the TV it works great. I can even sum it at a 45 degree angle toward the ceiling and it works. Assuming it straight up at the ceiling didn't seem to work, though it works for my other components.

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post #6806 of 8776
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Originally Posted by josephpearson View Post


There are differences between the A2 and the A3 series. For example, the color temperature scale is substantially different on the two series but consistent within each series (the same no matter what size screen in that series).

I don't own either but very familiar with Samsung's panel lottery and know first-hand what a difference one panel makes compared to another. The a3r is a different panel than the a2r.
Example: I have a 2011 Samsung with an SQ01 Panel that has excellent color, picture quality is stunning, and has decent blacks but does have flashlighting in bottom right/left corners. It's very minimal though and hardly noticeable. That same tv model with a CH01 panel has no uniformity issues but colors are washed out and black level stinks, compared to the SQ01 panel.

I've seen a noticeable difference between the 60" and 65" M series side by side with the same blu-ray movie at Sam's. The 65" had better, deeper colors than the 60". So, even though the a3r is supposedly better uniformity wise, I would assume the a2r is better PQ wise.
Edited by AncientAlien - 1/5/14 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by cavenger View Post

Is the M601D-A3R different species wise besides screen size than the M551D-A2R? Thanks.

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The 55 inch has 12 dimming zones and the 60 inch has 16 dimming zone which may mean the 60 inch has less blooming issues. The 65 inch also has 16 dimming zones but they're aligned vertically as opposed to horizontally.
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Originally Posted by tigepilot View Post

My set has no more light bleed than my direct lit first generation XVT did. People forget that direct lit also have uniformity issues but to a lesser degree. You are more likely to have uniformity issues with these edge lit sets for sure but waiting around is no guarantee. I will say that if I buy a set that has enough light bleed to effect normal viewing (not credits, test patterns, or black screens) then the set is going back whether it's edge lit or back lit.

As for as the local dimming features goes, this set has 16 zone local dimming. Next year's model will have 16 zone local dimming.


You guys can wait. I'm enjoying my TV now. ;-)

I think you have a typo as I don't think you meant to type 16 local dimming zones for next year. I would be very interested to know what you number you meant to type though. Thanks!
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Side Question: Does anyone know how to calibrate the TVs color temperature levels using the Disney WoW disc? I assume I will need some special equipment to do this?

 

What A Nice Suprise

 

So I got another replacement today from Best Buy for my M50 and noticed that it was one of the older models judging by how old/outdated the logos on the box looked. The top portion of the box that says "M-Series Smart Razer LED" is also different as the newer models said "M-Series Razer LED". Anyways, I opened up the box and connected the TV only to be then greeted by a new setup page that I've never seen before. It was to pair my remote with the TV and to pair my remote with other devices.

 

I don't have any other devices to pair my remote with besides my TV so I couldn't test that out. But, with the remote paired to the TV I noticed a much faster response to button inputs (really noticeable when using the keyboard) and you can indeed use the remote without point it at the IR port on the TV. I took a picture of it, but the Firmware version of my TV is 1.09.38.1488.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by Infinite Xero - 1/5/14 at 10:51am
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Side Question: Does anyone know how to calibrate the TVs RGB levels using the Disney WoW disc? I assume I will need some special equipment to do this.

Are you trying to calibrate for RGB FULL for PS4/PS3? If so you won't be able to use blu-ray player as it only uses LIMITED RGB. You'll have to upload the RGB FULL Square Test to your PS4/PS3.
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