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post #7081 of 8821
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Originally Posted by HD Vision View Post

Update: Well I am exchanging my M701d for a 64" Samsung F8500 Series plasma which will be delivered tomorrow. Just a heads up, with the Panny's gone, the stock on these are very low as well and with the talk of not knowing if Sammy will still be doing  plasmas, I don't expect these to last much longer if anyone is interested  in any of these models.

I will post my impressions on the new set in the appropriate thread from here on out. Good Luck with your M-series and hope it works out for you all. I have a feeling the 2014 models will be much better but I can't wait that long.
Congrats, that is a really nice TV. It got very good reviews too. And that remote looks sick (in a good way).

I had considered that Samsung too, but in the end the significantly higher price tag for a 6" smaller screen size, and the active 3D, made it a no go for me, even though it will probably have fewer screen issues than the Vizio.
post #7082 of 8821
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Originally Posted by 88ronin View Post

Congrats, that is a really nice TV. It got very good reviews too. And that remote looks sick (in a good way).

I had considered that Samsung too, but in the end the significantly higher price tag for a 6" smaller screen size, and the active 3D, made it a no go for me, even though it will probably have fewer screen issues than the Vizio.

I think the active 3D is a not go for me as well. Hopefully, Samsung will go to passive 3D on their next models.
post #7083 of 8821
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Plasmas are always going to have better picture quality and deeper blacks. The issue with them is that they are not being built anymore. I believe all the manufacturers dropped Plasmas and are going with the new 4K / 8K technology. I had a Samsung plasma in my living room, and the picture quality and blacks were awesome. However, it was heavy and it go really hot making the living room area too hot during the summer time.

I still got one more plasma in my master bedroom, and I'm thinking of selling it and getting another LED TV. I'm pretty impressed with the picture quality of the Vizio M series. If I was single, no wife and kids, I would go with another plasma, but my wife doesn't like how hot it gets, and the kids play a lot of xbox / PS3 games, and I am tired of all the burning in.
Those are pretty much all the same reasons I didn't go with plasma in the past, even though it's hard to beat their image quality.

Gus: which Vizio do you own right now?
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M50 owner here. On a dark screen, I notice a slightly whiter/milkier dark section in the middle 1/3 of the screen from left to right. Is this what is referred to as flashlighting? I do have Smartdimming set to on.

I need to decide to take it back to BB or not before Wednesday.
post #7085 of 8821
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Originally Posted by Chris Elm View Post

M50 owner here. On a dark screen, I notice a slightly whiter/milkier dark section in the middle 1/3 of the screen from left to right. Is this what is referred to as flashlighting? I do have Smartdimming set to on.

I need to decide to take it back to BB or not before Wednesday.

That would be either light bleed or flashlighting due to the tv being edge-lit. My 50" does the same thing and I'm returning it. Return yours and wait for the 2014 models to come out if you don't like it.
post #7086 of 8821
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Plasmas are always going to have better picture quality and deeper blacks. The issue with them is that they are not being built anymore. I believe all the manufacturers dropped Plasmas and are going with the new 4K / 8K technology. I had a Samsung plasma in my living room, and the picture quality and blacks were awesome. However, it was heavy and it go really hot making the living room area too hot during the summer time.

I still got one more plasma in my master bedroom, and I'm thinking of selling it and getting another LED TV. I'm pretty impressed with the picture quality of the Vizio M series. If I was single, no wife and kids, I would go with another plasma, but my wife doesn't like how hot it gets, and the kids play a lot of xbox / PS3 games, and I am tired of all the burning in.

I have 3 PS3s and have never had a burn in problem with any of my plasmas. Heat wise, unless you put your face right next to it, it's not something I have ever felt. Although I don't own any Samsung plasmas, I don't buy Samsung products.

Will say they are heavier but they are much lighter than years ago and much more energy efficient as well.
post #7087 of 8821
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Those are pretty much all the same reasons I didn't go with plasma in the past, even though it's hard to beat their image quality.

Gus: which Vizio do you own right now?

I went from a M551D-A2R, to Samsung 55" 7100 series, to Vizio M601D-A3R, which I am very happy with, and the picture quality is the same as the Sammy for $600 dollars less biggrin.gif
post #7088 of 8821
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I have 3 PS3s and have never had a burn in problem with any of my plasmas. Heat wise, unless you put your face right next to it, it's not something I have ever felt. Although I don't own any Samsung plasmas, I don't buy Samsung products.

Will say they are heavier but they are much lighter than years ago and much more energy efficient as well.

I have yet to find a Plasma that doesn't suffer from burn in. I own two plasmas the Samsung and a Panasonic, and they both run hot and they both get burn in. I sold the Samsung plasma for $150 with the TV stand and mount included. I just wanted to thing out of my living room. The Panasonic doesn't get use as much. So, I will be selling that one too.
post #7089 of 8821
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I have yet to find a Plasma that doesn't suffer from burn in. I own two plasmas the Samsung and a Panasonic, and they both run hot and they both get burn in. I sold the Samsung plasma for $150 with the TV stand and mount included. I just wanted to thing out of my living room. The Panasonic doesn't get use as much. So, I will be selling that one too.

I have a Hitachi plasma from 2004 used to game on it all the time, never got burn in. what are you doing to those sets?
post #7090 of 8821
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I have a Hitachi plasma from 2004 used to game on it all the time, never got burn in. what are you doing to those sets?

Lol you got the super duper Plasma that never gets burn in. Congrats.
post #7091 of 8821
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Lol you got the super duper Plasma that never gets burn in. Congrats.

The fact is many people never get burn in with their plasma displays, that is why I wanted to know what you are doing to your set to cause this issue. I have several friends that also have plasma and no burn in after years of use as well. With normal viewing you should not have burn in with modern plasmas after 2002.
post #7092 of 8821
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The fact is many people never get burn in with their plasma displays, that is why I wanted to know what you are doing to your set to cause this issue. I have several friends that also have plasma and no burn in after years of use as well. With normal viewing you should not have burn in with modern plasmas after 2002.
Well, he did say his kids play a lot of Xbox and Playstation, which he mentioned caused the burn-in in his case.
post #7093 of 8821
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Well, he did say his kids play a lot of Xbox and Playstation, which he mentioned caused the burn-in in his case.

I play a lot of games too, most likely more than his kids play. I just would like to know cause i havent seen a case of burn in with normal use in years.
post #7094 of 8821
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I have a Hitachi plasma from 2004 used to game on it all the time, never got burn in. what are you doing to those sets?

 

 

I had an Hitachi as well ( 55" ) and never had burn in issues or any other issues after almost 10 years of use. If it didn't just die on me I would still have it. Also the reason why I have no problem getting another plasma.

post #7095 of 8821
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Originally Posted by PlayNice View Post

The fact is many people never get burn in with their plasma displays, that is why I wanted to know what you are doing to your set to cause this issue. I have several friends that also have plasma and no burn in after years of use as well. With normal viewing you should not have burn in with modern plasmas after 2002.

I'm not really sure what you mean by normal viewing. The living room TV at my house is on at least 12 hours or more per day. The Samsung Plasma lasted 6 years.
post #7096 of 8821
Anyone else unaware that the Vizio m-series came in a plasma version?.....
post #7097 of 8821
Yes, go to the HEATER thread.
post #7098 of 8821
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Anyone else unaware that the Vizio m-series came in a plasma version?.....

Was that a poor attempt at subtle humor?
;-)
post #7099 of 8821
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Originally Posted by Justinss View Post

By flashlighting I mean this



I cured most of it by turning on "Smart Dimming" but I still get some in the lower right corner during dark scenes in movies and I also get this white line across the screen when blank.



I bought this TV from BestBuy so I only have 15 days to return it. I'd like to wait until the new TVs come out from CES. So If I had to buy one right now, I'd go to Costco which has a 90 day return policy and buy the Samsung UN50F6350AF.


Mine looks exactly like the second picture. I guess there is no point in exchanging for another one in hopes of not getting one with this. I have not seen the flashlighting/light bleed in the 4 corners yet...what pattern would I play where that would be most evident?
post #7100 of 8821
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Originally Posted by Justinss View Post

That would be either light bleed or flashlighting due to the tv being edge-lit. My 50" does the same thing and I'm returning it. Return yours and wait for the 2014 models to come out if you don't like it.

I got it for $599, so the new M would be ~25% more expensive plus not have 3D (but likely have better picture). These are the things I am weighing...
post #7101 of 8821
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Originally Posted by Chris Elm View Post

Mine looks exactly like the second picture. I guess there is no point in exchanging for another one in hopes of not getting one with this. I have not seen the flashlighting/light bleed in the 4 corners yet...what pattern would I play where that would be most evident?

First picture had smart dimming turned off and the second picture had it turned on. It's due to the TV being edge-lit.
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Hey guys first time joining a site like this could someone tell me where to go to find some calibrations for the. 50" vizio m501d-a2r?? Also anyone else who owns it does yours have light bleeding on the right side??!!? Any fixes !? And with sharpness at 70 some textures just kinda look messed up like they vibrate or something
post #7103 of 8821
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Originally Posted by JD4L View Post

And with sharpness at 70 some textures just kinda look messed up like they vibrate or something

That's because your sharpness should never be that insanely high.
post #7104 of 8821
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Originally Posted by JD4L View Post

Hey guys first time joining a site like this could someone tell me where to go to find some calibrations for the. 50" vizio m501d-a2r?? Also anyone else who owns it does yours have light bleeding on the right side??!!? Any fixes !? And with sharpness at 70 some textures just kinda look messed up like they vibrate or something

Please use this post for calibration settings.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1452199/official-vizio-m-series-razor-mxx1i-thread/2400#post_23509574
post #7105 of 8821
Ok we'll that's what it was set too out of the box thank you though
post #7106 of 8821
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Originally Posted by JD4L View Post

Ok we'll that's what it was set too out of the box thank you though

Unless you bought it used that is not what the settings shouldbe out of the box.
post #7107 of 8821
Thanks I'll try it out and what about the flashlighting?? Anyway to fix or is it just something I will have to learn to live with and do any of you uguys have an opinion on the vizio 5.1 surround sound my back left speaker sometimes has distortion but not always.
post #7108 of 8821
Has anyone with an M55 received 1.09.38.xxxx via update?
post #7109 of 8821
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Originally Posted by mxpx5678 View Post

Unless you bought it used that is not what the settings shouldbe out of the box.


I'm sorry that statement was made to the person above about the sharpness on standard it was set to 70
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Has anybody seen the difference in backlightning between the 50 and 55 inches? Having double dimming zones, does it make it less noticeable?

I've been thinking about changing my 50 inches for a 55 for 3 months and see if the new models come up soon but...the one I'd really like to have is the P-Series and it's not gonna be in the market in less than 3 months at all...so, I'll keep the 50 inches but changing the unit I have currently to see if mine is a defective model or...it's like it is, edge-lit model and that's what you have to deal with.

I'm keep the 50in because I don't see difference between my 50 and 55 except for the size and I don't really need a bigger tv, and I cannot wait 7-8 months for the P-Series, and swap the tv several times to wait for the new models is not something that I really want to do...

I don't know if I would regret in the future or not, but right now is the option I see. Nothing in the market that catches my attention more than the vizio I have in performance, price and needs even with the pain of the backlightning and as I said I cannot wait months to see the P series released...:(

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