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So I have decided as part of a large basement remodel and man cave upgrade to make the jump to separates. Given the cost and my newbie-ness, I have decided for now to go with a good high-quality used amp and use one of my current AVRs as a pre-pro (I have a Denon 2807 - likely candidate, and an Onkyo 805). Later I would plan to upgrade to a nice processor like a Marantz AV7005.

So I have narrowed down my choices (at present) to:

1. Lexicon CX-5. Pros: It's a Lexicon, THX Ultra certification, looks great, reviewed well back in the day, has XLR balanced inputs (for future use). Cons: No warranty, older than the Emotiva (8-years old - used for 7), selling price is $100 more than the UPA-7.

2. Emotiva UPA-7: Pros: Its only 3 years old, still has some warranty left (if it transfers), 7-channel (don't need now - but may be handy for future), reviewed very well (especially by Audioholics - almost effusive praise), very efficient. Cons: Not a "prestige" audio brand (does that matter?), some say sound quality not on par with prestige brands, no balanced inputs (does it really matter?), he is asking close to the original retail on this unit -- but I can't find any others for sale (maybe they rarely come available) ... so does not seem to be as much of a "deal" (but Emotiva does not have an equivalent amp right now).

There are few other options out there: an Anthem PVA 5 (local), an Acurus A200x5 (local), a B&K Reference 7270 (more $$$) and a B&K Components AV-5125 (less $$$) ... but I like these two options above.

Here is what the rest of the system will be:

Pre/Pro: Denon 2807 or Onkyo 805 (probably the Denon)
L/C/R: Focal 716/800V or PSB Image T6 & C5 (still deciding)
Rears: Energy CR-10 or DefTech BP1.2X (have both -- probably use the CR-10s as the DefTechs are already mounted else where.
Sub: Elemental Designs A5-350 (sigh ... pours beer on ground ... respect -- RIP eDesigns)

Uses:
30% HDTV (DirecTV, sports, shows, etc.)
30% Movies (Blu-Ray and HD-DVD mostly)
25% Gaming
15% Music (mostly classic rock, alternative, chill electronic) <-- if it sounds awesome, this may increase.

Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks!

CT
Edited by Skrill - 1/17/13 at 11:21am
post #2 of 8
Emotiva makes a decent entry level amp in the UPA-7, but it's not much better than a mid range AVR amp section. For instance, its transformer size is 850 VA when it claims a max wattage of 875 watts(adding up all channels). Amps typically have a ration much bigger than that, my Outlaw amp is also rated at 125 wpc and has a transformer size of 1.6 KVA. It also has inputs that are quite cheap and owners have complained they've snapped off. This line also has poor crosstalk numbers. I would take Audioholics reviews with a grain of salt, Emotiva spends a lot of advertising money there and since the summer has had 7 of their products glowingly reviewed.

I'd consider the Lexicon or Accurus.
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Thank you -- I appreciate the input. I am having trouble finding reviews of the Accurus A200Five.
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Originally Posted by runnin' View Post

Emotiva makes a decent entry level amp in the UPA-7, but it's not much better than a mid range AVR amp section. For instance, its transformer size is 850 VA when it claims a max wattage of 875 watts(adding up all channels). Amps typically have a ration much bigger than that, my Outlaw amp is also rated at 125 wpc and has a transformer size of 1.6 KVA. It also has inputs that are quite cheap and owners have complained they've snapped off. This line also has poor crosstalk numbers. I would take Audioholics reviews with a grain of salt, Emotiva spends a lot of advertising money there and since the summer has had 7 of their products glowingly reviewed.

I'd consider the Lexicon or Accurus.


Not familiar with Accurus, but that Lexicon unit looks like a real winner. As runnin notes, it has very robust internals (rated down to 2 ohms), and if it is in good shape, will last and last and power whatever you throw at it. That type of unit makes separates worthwhile. Focal makes a lot of nice speakers.
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Not familiar with Accurus, but that Lexicon unit looks like a real winner. As runnin notes, it has very robust internals (rated down to 2 ohms), and if it is in good shape, will last and last and power whatever you throw at it. That type of unit makes separates worthwhile. Focal makes a lot of nice speakers.

Thanks for the input.

For ease of review -- this is the Lexicon model that is available. http://www.lexicon.com/Products/Details/133

I am leaning that way now.

post #6 of 8
The Lexicon carries independent verification of its electrical safety from an OSHA-approved NRTL, as you can see from the "CSA" stamp on the back of the device.

Emotiva is too cheap/lazy/callous to spring for independent safety verification.

So to my mind the call is not at all close.
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The Lexicon carries independent verification of its electrical safety from an OSHA-approved NRTL, as you can see from the "CSA" stamp on the back of the device.

Emotiva is too cheap/lazy/callous to spring for independent safety verification.

So to my mind the call is not at all close.

I saw you mention that about the NRTL certification (or lack of) in another post -- and I looked into it. It does impact my decision. However, I noticed that many other amps don't carry UL or CSA (or similar) certs, including high-end amps like that B&K Reference model.

Thank you for the advice.
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Originally Posted by Skrill View Post

Thanks for the input.

For ease of review -- this is the Lexicon model that is available. http://www.lexicon.com/Products/Details/133

I am leaning that way now.


Thanks -- I had looked it up. That should suit just fine. Put a smile on your face every time you turn it on (listen to it), too -- that's kind of a neat thing, especially if you get great stuff at a really good price. Just make sure, as much as you can, that it is in good shape (they are beasts, so tough to hurt) wink.gif
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