3D is Not Dead... - Page 5

I dont think its dead...it was just more of a showcase for it the last 2 years vs this year.

When I first got mine, I watched alot of 3D content. Bought lots of 3D movies. I dont watch as much 3D now...but I still go to it. And if a movie is in 3D...I wait for the 3D version. I rent the 3D version on Vudu. Its like HD channels vs SD. I watch the HD ones instead of the SD ones. Even when my kids are looking at TV., I check to see if it has an HD version.

I use passive glasses now. Its better than what I expected. You can still get the in your face 3D...its up to the movie makers to add that stuff in. And I was sold on 3D after watching Avatar in theaters. After that...I made it a goal to get a 3D tv...lol. REAL D helped sell 3D alot.

Audio went from mono to stereo to surround in increasing quality. Video went from black and white to color to HD to 3D in increasing quality.

3D is a add-on for 2D video just like surround sound is for stereo sound (and just as stereo was for monaural). It's not mandatory in any way.

Many people (not AVS members ofcourse) don't have surround and some even buy it and never set it up correctly and some never bother to reconnect those rear speakers after the last move or room refurbishing. Many will buy 3D TVs and will only use the feature during the "honeymoon". Then those glasses will never be recharged or get lost or broken.

But there will always be enthuisiasts in every field (and alot of wannabe enthuisiasts that will want to impress their neighbours when they do their decisions in the salesroom).

Good thing is you still can watch a b/w movie in mono audio if thats what you like best.

Nothing is dead, didn't just a "silent" black and white movie come out: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1655442/ Just look at the imdb ratings on that one.

Content is king, presentation his castle :-) or something...

Another thing I just thought of....now that more passive 3D sets are coming out...I expect 3D to take off more. Glasses are lighter....glasses from the theaters work...glasses are cheaper...no need to charge them up...no more specific glasses for a specific TV...

Active shutter 3D has its pros...but I think more consumers will get behind the passive 3D. If anything....passive looks more stylish...lol. Who cant get behind that?

No, I agree that 3D is anything but "dead". But, perhaps, the more accurate statement would be that glasses-type 3D is indeed dead over the long term. Most people I know - including me - do not want to sit around the house watching TV wearing a pair of sunglasses. So I believe that no-glasses 3D is the thing of the future and several manufacturers are now showing prototypes and a few models for sale, but with many caveats as to viewing angles, etc. This is all several years away it seems.

How is the 3D on Titanic? Is it really that amazing as it was touted as being when it had it´s re-release in spring of 2012?
I have the 3D Blu-ray and I´m just waiting for the TV to break down / being sold so I can buy a 3D tv... just for this movie.

How hyped should I be?

Good 3D IMHO is Avatar (horrible movie), The Hobbit (so-so movie) and Dredd 3D (ok)

Well I like 3d and started buying my movies to include that copy moths ago so just in case I got a 3d set.

After all it was a few $'s more and like 3d blu ray players they are just $10 to $20 more so why not just get the 3d player when you need a new one.

I have a Samsung set just got a 46d6900 for a steal and it looks great in the bedroom and the active shutter glasses where less then $20 on sale.

I think it's here to stay

That's funny you should say that. That movie was the final straw for my wife and I. We saw Avatar in 3D IMAX and The Hobbit. I think another movie as well, but can't remember. We'll never go to a movie again that's in 3D. We both got headaches and felt eyestrain. We didn't think it made the movie better and just couldn't wait to take off the glasses.

I hear most people in this thread raving about it, so clearly there's a market, but it's not for everyone.

Great thread! The controversy here and what's happening at CES shows the interest in 3D is alive and well, just becoming integrated into the AV scene. Loving it or hating it, it's just two sides of 3D technology as it stands today.

My feelings after extensive research and comparisons was ... purchasing a spanking new 240HZ LG 60" passive LED screen.

Hardware...

1. LG LED passive (right now) has a lock on the best 3D screens IMO. They're bright, and get brighter still in 3D mode, so the slight dimming of the passive glasses is canceled out. 2013 passive LG beats any active screen I've seen (and other passives as well) hands down in picture quality. Game over this year.

2. The passive 3D glasses make viewer comfort a non issue, even wearing corrective glasses. But I do prefer no corrective glasses which for me means wearing my contacts. One set of any glasses is enough! IMO active glasses are just plain dumb in so many ways. Game over unless no-glasses at all can become a viable reality which is doubtful.

3. LG 1080P 3D capability (or close enough on BD to not care about arguing the fine point of "is it or is it not", means the 3D quality available today will only be superseded by 4K 3D. Game over for now.

4. I'm OK with a price difference for good 3D over 2D right now, but 2D should logically go away over time, just like B&W TV did when color TV took over. If it's "just there" people will more than likely buy it and use it.

Software...

1. 3D creation has a long way to go unfortunately and is the biggest impediment to the 3D success and mass adoption. Some view directors/producers get it, most don't and can't do a credible job making a good effect. This has to change, in a major way. I'm so tired of out-of-focus scenes substituting for real depth.

2. Everyone is saying is becoming mainstream and therefore 'normal'. I wish. Then we could get a far better selection of decent content than today (unless you're exclusively into animated moves / children's movies that is.)

3. The few really great 3D titles out today show the promise of greatness that can be and should be, but isn't for the most part.

4. 3D content should be the same price or a $ or two more, just like BR is over DVDs, whether bought, rented or streamed - not the major cost difference that exists today. And it 'should' be available for every title, from every content source.

As for 3D in theaters, 3D is not done well. The screens are dim, the glasses are terrible, the prices outrageous. Enough trying to ruin the 3D experience - it should be far, far better for the premium. Boycott theaters is my solution, that's the only way they'll ever understand.

One interesting thing I've noticed is that being way close to my 3D TV is really fine for 3D, terrible for 2D. So I sit literally a couple feet in front for 3D movies and so feel far more immersed in the 3D content that way. Take the glasses of, put the same 2D movie on and I want to be 10 feet away. I need theater seats on sliders or more affordable 100" 3D screens!

They way 3D looks right now isn't all that exciting, it's just not as good as say, looking at a 3D picture viewer where each eye sees a separate discrete image. They will get there, so I am anxious to see future developments. Video goggles with very high resolution, like the new 4K format just seen at CES will be good for getting a really solid and stunning 3D effect. I go to the local Imax all the time, it's great, but there is a much more realistic experience possible with improved or different technology. I used to have one of those old stereo viewers as a kid, they took discs that turned when you pulled a lever down on the side. The 3D was spot on, just stunningly real looking, to see a full motion movie like Avatar with such clarity and depth would be an unforgettable experience. Eventually they will achieve this level of realism, it is worth waiting for.

3D dead? I don't think so..the movie support industry has spent millions of dollars upgrading their auditoriums to 3D...We have over 50 3D screens, alone, here in Reno, Nevada, and we are a very small market! I know...I installed, and now support them! And this was just Cinemark...there is no way the movie theater industry, after spending all these millions of dollars to upgrade, will allow 3D to die. It is an economic certainty.

MC

Unfortunately, after to talking to major lens manufacturers, prescription, 3D glasses aren't going to happen with the RealD/LG/Samsung, etc., passive systems. **THAT^** annoys me to no end as I wear prescrips (I cannot wear contacts!) and trying to wear glasses over glasses is just a pain. I have been talking to an optician friend of mine, about possibly adding the 3D lens in a speacial frame on a pair of prescrips...draw-back would be cleaning the glasses...and no, flippers don't work with me..the clips are right in the middle of the lenses!

MC

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Just love it


JohnnyJT

I've had mine for over a year, and still watch everything I can in 3D.

I for one LOVE 3D. My best friend LOVES 3D. My neighbor (a man) loves it also.
However my wife, her sister and their girlfriends don't like wearing the glasses and can't see the food they're eating etc.
They prefer BR where they don't have to have glasses and more room light. 3D looks best in a dark room.
So, I think the glasses are what is hindering 3D with the masses maybe?
Thoughts?

I just found this thread and did a quick cruise of the first three pages hoping to find mention of the 3D coverage of the summer olympics. Then I searched the thread for "olympic" and got no hits.

I was wondering of anyone here got to see what Panasonic did with their big fancy 3D cameras .... and what was your impression of what you saw? I was bummed not being able to see any of it myself because a power surge took out the HDMI output on my DirecTV HR24-200 receiver which is required to get 3D signal to my 3D Viera TV. (I'm using the receiver's component output now to still see HD.)

I also recently tried a Google search to see if I could find out if Panasonic may have put out a 3D blu-ray, but all I found on that search was info from the time of the games. I emailed a couple Panasonic guys who's names were connected with that olympic 3d info, but have not received a reply. That was about a week ago. I imagine that there may have been some awesome 3D stuff shot, but can't imagine what it would be which is why I want to see what they got. Seems to me the olympics was a huge opportunity to "push" 3D for sports ... and Panasonic ... but what happened? There are a number of DVD and Blu-rays of the 2012 olymics offerings shown on Amazon, but nothing 3D. Interesting to note that most of what is offered there is not highly rated. Like three star averages.

Anyway does anyone here have ideas or opinions about the 2012 summer Olympics in 3D?

3D isn't dead. Apart from my Virtual Boy, I just purchased a 3DS XL, and it's fantastic. The extra immersion provided by 3D is just too good to pass up. Passive 3D with the polarized lenses is a good compromise between cost, comfort, and image quality. WIth 4K sets around the corner, the IQ reduction using passive 3D will be much less noticeable, and perhaps 3D will once again start taking off. Active 3D on the other hand should probably go the way of the dinosaurs - it's too expensive and too complicated for the average consumer.

I personally do not know one person who cares about or even mentions 3D in films or home. Small sample, yes, but compare that to the latest in phones, pads etc and I know no one who isn't talking of those. Perhaps that means nothing but I'm willing to bet it does.

Art

I would love to watch 3D. I have 6 pair of glasses for my Epson 5010e. But, zero content locally for me; and many of the 3D movies that are out are not movies I care to even watch.

I hope to see more content sooner rather than later.

No glasses... that's the key. Too much trouble as it is:

• Need one for every viewer
• May need to charge 'em
• Need a place to store them
• One more link in the chain that can/will go wrong
• Messes with your own prescription glasses
• One more format/technology/brand war
• Fugly and uncomfortable
• This list can go on and on

Add to this that there is still not enough convincing content (slooowly increasing) and you have a formula for a lukewarm, almost indifferent, welcome from the consumers to a multimillion initiative from the industry.

I remember reading a year ago Sony's 2012 roadmap presentation with great emphasis on 3D and thinking WTH???. At the end of the road I guess someone will benefit from the research of mainly others and capitalize on the mass market.

Yes more content and more reasonable pricing certainly . Comparing amazon US and Uk the vast majority of my 3d bds are sourced from the UK ; generally cheaper even with the US dollar exchange rate

As for the average joe blow he is happy enough still buying dvds let alone bd's ;3d = to complicated and no extent education to speak of

Two weeks, five pages of comments, and I haven't yet seen one person say it. 3D isn't dead. It simply doesn't exist. All we have today is stereo cinema. We simply don't have the tech to display 3D at anywhere close to movie resolutions, much less the storage medium to actually distribute it. The "3DTV" is nothing but an incorrectly used marketing term, and just as annoying as movies that use it for pointless gimmicks like having things appear to come out of the screen at you.

What country you live in???
3D is fantastic and amazing. I absolutely love it.
The sticking point with 3D for most people that many don't like 3D is the glasses.
Get around that somehow, it would be a smashing hit.
I for one don't mind the glasses... part of the effect for me... but on the other hand, women

It's true that there are't enough 3D movies to choose from yet as I buy them all when they come out.
Plus Blockbuster has only a couple in their stores to rent. That's frustrating as I would rent all of them.

3D is an infant industry compared to 2D, with few people doing it and fewer doing it well. The technology will get better. Roadblocks will go away. Learning 3D film making sends directors back to kindergarten in some ways, so many of them fear it. Good content will come slowly.

At first, I was baffled at all the 3D haters I saw popping up. Now I realize that they simply must be seeing the world very differently than I do. Now, most of the time, I just feel sorry for them, because I realize they'll never experience the absolute JOY I feel when I see 3D done well. All I have to do to appreciate 3D is close one eye for a few minutes. The prospect of never experiencing my world in 3D again terrifies me. Blind in one eye, deaf in one ear, unable to see color - there's no way on earth I want any of those things to happen to me in real life, so why would I want them for the movies and TV I watch? Anyone has the right to reject 3D, but there are a lot of us who love it passionately.

I have been watching 3d at home for years. I sold my Panasonic VT30 3dtv. Not because I didn't love it. But so I could buy 3 monitors for my PC. The 3 monitors are 3d of course, the Asus VG278Hs. Love em! 3d Surround vision is amazing!

I just had surgery to free myself from eyeglasses (after needing them for 30 years), so I have no desire to wear them again to watch 3D. I don't want to even try 3D in my living room after seeing some store demos. And I consider myself a home theater enthusiast.

Actually, it should be EASY for you to watch 3D with the supplied glasses, especially since you don't have to wear them over the prescription glasses.

I'm not 100% sure about this, but is it so that UHD displays will be able to display 1080p 3D blurays for passive 3D with no loss in vertical resolution? That alone would be a reason for me to wait for a passive 3D UHD set, since I hate the non-passive 3D.

Thats the one good reason for 4k lapino putting passive resolution on a par with active ; as everyone gets a new 4k tv [ whether they want it or not ] it will be a driver for passive 3d tv . One type of glasses is heaps better than incompatible shutter speeds

Joseph Clark points are spot on ; 2d doesnt make particular sense when I like to think the ultimate objective is real life which is what dimension ? I admire how they manage to wedge 2 x 1080p streams into a standard 1080p bd disc ; strange how some try to compare this with 60's anaglyph ; yuck

Rejoice! That level and better better is here now. Come on over and watch Avatar (for an excellent example) on my LG set. It is truly mind blowingly good, bright, clear HD, no artifacts, no ghosting. On the other hand, if it's not displayed on the better gen current equipment, it's probably not so great. Therein lies the problem...the industry is "just now" getting to acceptable quality delivery that's "sort of affordable" by the aveage consumer, although still at a premium (I'd say ~30% uplift in price over not so great 3D).

Of course the other part of the equation is the sound. Good 5.1 or 7.1 makes a HUGE difference in the perceived experience. Makes no reality based sense, but the "total immersion" experience of 3D visuals AND excellent 3D audio is mind-blowing.

Find a friend who can show you...really!

I'm curious why people feel the need to be so proactive in pronouncing 3D as being dead.